Upon Further Review 2013: Defense vs Indiana Comment Count

Brian

FORMATION NOTES: Michigan spent every snap in their nickel. This was fairly typical.

shotgun-two-back-triangle

That also shows what I called "shotgun triangle" for IU. Wynn is lined up in the backfield behind the QB, but it's shotgun depth, not pistol. Wynn would always motion out after a hand-wave from the QB; this was always a decoy.

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Michigan did show a few okie packages. This is Okie two; I designate them by the number of safeties.

SUBSTITUTION NOTES: Boatloads. Avery went back to safety and spotted Gordon and Wilson from time to time. This led to a lot of Stribling and Lewis, as Michigan played every snap in their nickel. Countess and Taylor did not leave the field, IIRC.

At linebacker the usual Ross/Morgan/Bolden rotation saw Ben Gedeon join. The line was the usual profusion of bodies. Clark or Ojemudia was usually one end with one of Beyer/Ryan/CGordon the other. On the interior, Washington, Black, Wormley, Henry and Heitzman seemed to split snaps almost evenly. Glasgow also got in some.

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Ln Dn Ds O Form D Form Type Rush Play Player Yards
O25 1 10 Shotgun 3-wide Nickel over Pass 4 PA rollout hitch Taylor 6
M line and linebackers react to the PA fake, so the corner's open. Sudfeld has his choice of WRs, picks hitch that Taylor(-0.5, cover -1) is playing soft on and makes a bad throw to pull the guy upfield. RPS -1; no pressure seemed schematic to me.
O31 2 4 Shotgun trips Nickel over Pass 4 Flash screen Countess 1
Instant jet tempo with a big trips w/ TE to boundary. Countess(+1) reacts, takes cut block, stays on his feet, delays Wynn. Taylor(+1) also kept his feet after a cut and forces out. RPS +1.
O32 3 3 Shotgun 4-wide Nickel over Pass 4 Out Ross Inc
M shows corner blitz, IU checks to sideline. M keeps their blitz on. IU slides line and cut blocks the rush, looking for a TE out against man coverage they know is coming. Open, Sudfeld misses. Ross in coverage but didn't have much chance after aligning inside. RPS –1, cover –1.
Drive Notes: Punt, 0-0, 14 min 1st Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form D Form Type Rush Play Player Yards
O28 1 10 Pistol trips TE Nickel even Run N/A Zone stretch Bolden 4
Ross sent on a blitz and M slants to the playside; Bolden(-2) runs himself out of the play entirely; he's going so hard to the playside that it seems like he's the force guy but that would be really weird. Black(+0.5) gets a lot of penetration to force it behind him; Wormley(-0.5) is flowing behind and gets creased, albeit narrowly. Ross(+2, tackling +2) makes a terrific play to run around the backside and make a leaping tackle from behind as the back hits the LOS. Lot of space otherwise.
O32 2 6 Shotgun 4-wide Nickel over Run N/A Inside zone Bolden 4
Sudfeld looks like he's reading the end but they block him anyway so probably just a straight handoff. C goes for Ross; Bolden unblocked. RB picking between hole between Henry and end or further inside, gives nice outside-in fake that sucks Bolden(-1) into the outer gap as he takes the inner one; Henry(+0.5) and Wormley(+0.5) compress to tackle, pile falls forward as the momentum is with the three IU guys instead of the M two.
O36 3 2 Pistol 4-wide Nickel over Pass 3 Hitch Stribling 5
RB bugs out before snap; Sudfeld reads a few hitches before he finds the one he likes. Pressure -1; both Bolden and CGordon chased the RB to the flat. One of those guys was probably wrong. Stribling already in BTW.
O41 1 10 Shotgun 4-wide Nickel over? Pass 5 Fly Taylor 59
Michigan way late, not even set on the line; Taylor is trying to get a call on the snap and is clearly sitting in a zone coverage instead of turning and running as he would with man. Dude open by yards, touchdown, RPS -4, cover -4, not sure what to do with individual minuses. FWIW, Countess blitzed off the corner and the playside S was TGordon, not Wilson. I guess this is probably Taylor(-2), but going light because this is an RPS issue.
Drive Notes: Touchdown, 0-7, 10 min 1st Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form D Form Type Rush Play Player Yards
O25 1 10 Shotgun 3-wide Nickel over Pass 4 PA slant Taylor 14
Pop pass. Taylor(+0.5, cover +1, tackling -1) makes life here pretty difficult, almost getting a PBU but not quite able to secure a tackle after he misses that. I'll take that aggression; you get off the field by creating zero plays.
O39 1 10 Shotgun 3-wide Nickel over? Pass 4 Comeback Stribling Inc
Pressure(-1) bleah; this is open-ish for a good throw with Stribling in push coverage. Sudfeld turfs it.
O39 2 10 Shotgun 3-wide 3-3-5 nickel Run N/A Trap Clark 5
M shows 30 front and LB blitz with Beyer standing up over the TE. IU checks, M backs out of all out blitz. IU traps Clark(-0.5) who gets upfield and kicked out, leaving an absolute ton of room for Bolden to shut down by himself. Black(-1) also ripped upfield. Bolden does what he can, which is make a diving tackle on the RB as he passes. RPS -1; DL here was Heitzman/Black/Clark/Beyer, asking for it.
O44 3 5 Pistol 4-wide Nickel even Pass 6 Out Taylor Inc
M shows blitz, check. M runs blitz after check, argh. All cuts again, M in zone behind their blitz; Taylor(+2, cover +2) roars up to blast the TE as he turns upfield after a catch. Well-earned PBU.
Drive Notes: Punt, 7-7, 7 min 1st Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form D Form Type Rush Play Player Yards
O25 1 10 Pistol 3-wide Nickel over Run N/A Power O Heitzman 3
Ojemudia(-1) gets blown too far outside, opening up a big window. Heitzman(+2) fights through a poorly-executed double and makes a diving ankle tackle that trips the back up. Do feel like I want Ross(-0.5) to take this on a little more outside but hard to tell; Morgan(-0.5) does not read the guard pull and jet for the hole. Taylor(+0.5) read fast as was there if the Heitzman tackle didn't take.
O28 2 7 Shotgun 2-back 3-3-5 nickel Run N/A Inside zone Heitzman 6
TE almost in line with the QB, so I'll call it two back. M shows a 3-3-5 look, slanting playside and sending Morgan as fourth DL. Countess also comes down off the slot. Heitzman(-1) gets pushed past his gap, providing a cutback lane. Morgan(-1) rushes up hard and gets planted by the TE coming backside. That's a gap; Countess(+0.5) shuts it down as the back nears the first down.
O34 3 1 Pistol 3-wide Nickel over Run N/A Power O Heitzman 3
M sends the linebackers, with Ross shooting the backside gap and Morgan going frontside. Heitzman(-0.5) gives up too much ground to a double. Morgan(+1) executes, getting into the backfield and bouncing off a G lead block to tackle; Ross can't quite come around the backside to grab the back and he can slam up the back of the guys blocking Heitzman for the first. RPS push as the excellent blitz is offset by M getting stuck with no NTs on the field and playing an SDE at NT.
O37 1 10 Shotgun 3-wide Nickel over Pass 4 Hitch Ojemudia 6 (Pen +5)
Instant snap results in an all-around push six-yard hitch but also gets Ojemudia(-1, RPS -1) lined up offsides.
O42 1 5 Shotgun 4-wide Nickel over Run N/A Inside zone Henry 3
Gedeon at MLB. Wormley blows the backside G back, but I think he needs to go a little less vertical. Henry(+1) takes a momentary double that shoves him into what looks like a sealed position but then shoves the other G away and sheds into the hole as the RB gets there, initiating a tackle. An unblocked Ross comes into help; Gedeon(+0.5) did a good job to come under the OL and also assist.
O45 2 2 Shotgun 3-wide Nickel even Run N/A Zone stretch Henry 0
Henry(+1) fires out to the playside hard, making it impossible to scoop him; playside G has to stay the whole time just to keep him in check at the LOS; this will allow Gedeon to flow to the hole unimpeded even if the back doesn't trip. Net result is about the same. CGordon(+1) also did a good job to set the edge and then come back down. Ross(+0.5) beat a block to the outside; this is just well played in general.
O45 3 2 Shotgun 3-wide Nickel even Pass 5 Fly Taylor Inc
Michigan in man free. Less dumb on film than it looked live from Taylor(+2, cover +2), who is step for step with his guy and gets his head around late only a fraction after he should. Sudfeld leaves it short, Taylor gets a PBU and may have had a shot to intercept if the WR doesn't slow up and knock him off balance.
Drive Notes: Punt, 14-7, 2 min 1st Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form D Form Type Rush Play Player Yards
O25 1 10 Shotgun two-back triangle Nickel over Run N/A QB power Ryan 4
Roberson in and will remain in for most of the remainder. He waves Wynn in motion from a position right behind him before the snap; IU runs a zone stretch with the QB. Washington goes upfield and the C steps around him for a reach, but the entire line has stepped left so that's his assignment. Glasgow also goes left, Clark ends up hanging out unblocked on the edge away from the play. The LBs flow to the gap between but IU actually has three blockers for those two guys and they're screwed no matter how they play it. Ryan(+1) makes a nice play to come off his kickout block and tackle from behind after Morgan(+1) manages to make a pile a yard downfield; occupied two guys there. RPS -2; this could have been 20 yards without anyone getting a minus here.
O29 2 6 Ace 3-wide Okie two Pass 5 Dig Stribling Inc
Four-man umbrella with seven guys at the LOS. IU checks. M runs man free with Countess moving up on Wynn on a wheel and Stribling trying to check Hughes on a dig; dig comes open(Stribling -0.5, cover -1) and is probably a ten yard completion but Roberson turfs it. Five man rush picked up (pressure -2).
O29 3 6 Shotgun trips TE Nickel 4-3 even Pass 5 Sack Morgan -9
Wilson rolled down as a WLB, blitzes along with Morgan as Black occupies and then drops into a short spy zone. Indiana blows their protection, leaving both blitzers against the back. Morgan(+1, pressure +3, blitz) is unblocked up the middle; Wilson(+1) gets outside and upfield of that back; Ryan(+0.5) and Ojemudia(+0.5) are upfield in good position to pen Roberson in; he just eats a sack. RPS +2.
Drive Notes: Punt, 14-7, 11 min 2nd Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form D Form Type Rush Play Player Yards
O43 1 10 Shotgun trips Nickel over Pass N/A In Stribling 11
Good protection, IU runs a pick route that gets two DBs to run into each other. Five yard gain gets some YAC. (Pressure -1, RPS –1, Cover -1)
M46 1 10 Shotgun 4-wide? Nickel even? Pass 4 PA rollout deep hitch Stribling Inc
Shot of bench, come back to play in progress. Looks like a fake jet PA rollout. Black(+0.5) comes through to pressure from the inside; Ojemudia(-1) gets locked out by a TE and tries inside, lots of time. (Pressure -2). Stribling(-0.5) is in coverage on the sideline and leaves it to come up on the QB, who throws as he crosses the LOS. WR stepped OOB.
M46 2 10 Shotgun 3-wide 3-3-5 nickel Pass 5 Comeback Taylor 13
30 front with Beyer in a two point stance may tip blitz; M blitzes. IU does not pick up on it. Two guys for Heitzman, free run for Bolden(+1, pressure +3, blitz), he nails Roberson on his throw. It's a wobbly and slow as a result, Taylor(-1, cover +1) jumps it and should intercept, somehow through his hands, completion, bleah. RPS +1; blitz should have gotten a result here.
M33 1 10 Shotgun trips 3-3-5 nickel Pass 5 Rollout seam Wilson 33
PSU rolls away from pressure; Clark(+0.5) does cut off the outside and Bolden beats a block to hit Roberson just as he throws (pressure +1, organic). Despite that throw is right on the money to a 5'7” guy 30 yards downfield. Wilson(-2, cover -2) is in a center field zone but he's running to it on the snap and has a long way to go; still, he flattens out too much here and may have a play on the ball if heads for the five instead of the ten. Probably not though. Hard to tell about the coverage with the singularly useless BTN field-level replays. Wilson did line up on the opposite hash from a seam route at the numbers. RPS –2.
Drive Notes: Touchdown, 21-14, 6 min 2nd Q. IU's next drive starts with 33 seconds left in the half.
Ln Dn Ds O Form D Form Type Rush Play Player Yards
O32 1 10 Shotgun 3-wide Nickel even Run N/A Zone read keeper CGordon 14
Cumong man. Gordon(-2) crashes down on an inside zone, getting cut to the ground, Ross(-1) probably isn't expecting the ball to pop out but is late recognizing. Easy first down.
O46 1 10 Shotgun 3-wide Nickel even Pass 4 Drag Ross Inc
IU gets the snap off three second after it's set for play and I'm just like can I have your two minute drill yo. Lot of time(pressure -1); coverage(+3) very good and Roberson has to check down after using a bit of clock. WR drops it. DL did rescue it a bit by forcing Roberson to move around some.
O46 2 10 Shotgun 3-wide Nickel even Run N/A Inside zone Wormley 10
Wormley(-1) gets blown out by a double; normally -2 but with 17 seconds in the half more understandable. Henry(+1) fought through his double to force a cutback away from blocking so Morgan(+0.5, tackling +1) can stand the back up after about six yards. At this point Wormley contacts from behind, followed shortly by three IU OL, and the pile lurches forward another four, at the cost of six seconds. I'll take that trade for M.
M44 1 10 Shotgun trips Prevent Pass 3 TE out Lewis 11
M puts three guys in the endzone, which is goofy. IU has eight seconds and two timeouts, they can easily get another play in. TE out against Jourdan Lewis playing soft is complete, FG range. RPS -1.
Drive Notes: FG(50), 28-17, EOH.
Ln Dn Ds O Form D Form Type Rush Play Player Yards
M5 1 G Shotgun trips TE Nickel over Run N/A QB zone Clark 3
M shows cover zero and sends their LBs; IU tries to run off tackle; inside zone blocking but it seems like the target point is outside. Anyway, RB heads off tackle, QB headed there from snap. Looks like a TD for a moment; Clark(+1) fights through a block from the LT to flow down the line; TGordon(+1) gets upfield of the guy trying to block him and the two combine to tackle.
M2 2 G Shotgun trips TE Nickel over Pass 4 Corner Countess Inc
Sudfeld in. Try Wynn on a corner route; he catches it for a moment before Countess(+2, cover +2) executes shoryuken, jamming his hand up through the facemask of Wynn and knocking the ball out.
M2 3 G Shotgun trips TE Nickel over Run N/A Inside zone Clark 2
M overloads to TE side and sends Wilson off the edge; Clark, further inside, also unblocked. Wilson goes for QB; Clark(-3) goes for QB. With DL crashing hard to the other side of the play and Ross and Gordon the two guys trying to hold up on the backside, the TD is easy once that happens. Black(-1) did get blown out in a bad way. RPS +1; this should have been a stop.
Drive Notes: Touchdown, 28-24, 13 min 3rd Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form D Form Type Rush Play Player Yards
O29 1 10 Shotgun trips Nickel over Run N/A Zone stretch Black 20
M shades Bolden over the slot, leaving Ross the only LB with a prayer of doing anything about this so once Black(-2) gets creased by a scoop block it's a big gain. RPS -2.
O49 1 10 Shotgun 3-wide Nickel even Pass 4 Throwaway Beyer Inc
First read covered(+1); at that point pressure(+1) comes through sort of as Beyer(+0.5) threatens the edge and Clark and Black start threatening. Stribling(+0.5) makes a dumpoff unattractive(another cover +1); Roberson pumps and tosses it away.
O49 2 10 Pistol 3-wide Nickel under Pass 4 Hitch Stribling 26
M shows blitz a little, creeping Ross to the line and Wilson down; IU busts as Ross goes and Beyer drops off, with no one taking Clark(pressure +3, RPS +1); Roberson does have a quick hitch for a few yards that Stribling(-2, tackling -2) turns into a big gain by missing a tackle on a stationary WR.
O23 1 10 Shotgun 4-wide Nickel over Pass N/A Flash screen Wilson 9
M walks Wilson over the TE and has two on one to the boundary here so this should be pretty easy to stop. Wilson(-2, tackling -2) gets way far upfield and misses the tackle. Stribling's taking on a TE and gets into him around the LOS, cutting off the outside and delaying the WR significantly. Then physics takes over and he starts moving backwards. IU WR keeps his feet, and despite this taking forever he can eventually run up the sideline. Bolden(-1) turns this business from five yards into a near first down with a lackadaisical jog to the sideline.
O14 2 1 Shotgun 3-wide Nickel over Pass 5 Corner Countess Inc
Countess(+1, cover +1) in good position right on the back of the WR and has a play on anything but a perfect throw. This is basically perfect, and it seems like Countess still bothers it, resulting in a drop. Ross(+1, pressure +1, organic) was sent, beat a RB block, and was about to hit the QB.
O14 3 1 Shotgun 2-back triangle Nickel over Run N/A Zone read keeper TGordon 6
TGordon(-1, tackling -1) put in space against Roberson and can't even touch him. CGordon(-1) created problems as he gets instantly pancaked on his slant, which created a lot of space and acted as a weak cut block on Bolden(-1) that got him out of the play.
O8 1 G Shotgun 4-wide 5-1 nickel Run N/A Inside zone Bolden 3
30 front with Morgan only ILB. He blitzes as Bolden, lined up outside of Glasgow, folds back. M slanting, Clark(+0.5) and Washington(+0.5) both occupy two guys, no one releases, Bolden folds right back into the gap where RB is attacking and tackles.
O5 2 G Shotgun 3-wide Nickel over Pass 4 Out Countess 5
CGordon(+2, pressure +2) zips around the RT and is into sack if M can cover a second longer; they can't as Michigan has Stribling and Countess on the outside WRs with Gordon also there. Stribling is sinking on a corner route as Wynn goes to the front of th endzone at the sideline, with no one else in the area. Looks like it's got to be Countess(-3, cover -3) as Stribling covering the Wynn route means wide open in the back of the endzone. RPS –1; tempo'd.
Drive Notes: Touchdown, 35-31, 9 min 3rd Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form D Form Type Rush Play Player Yards
O33 1 10 Shotgun 3-wide Nickel over Pass 4 Throwaway Ryan Inc
Hurrah Jake Ryan chaos play! Ryan(+2, pressure +2, organic) left unblocked as IU goes with a zone read PA, hoping to pick him up with the tight end. Ryan momentarily thinks he needs to go inside, then shoots upfield at Roberson with velocity, almost sacking; Roberson manages to evade and just chucks it away.
O33 2 10 Shotgun trips 3-3-5 nickel Pass 5 Scramble Ross 1
M not set at the snap as the three DL are still getting into position. Ryan(+0.5, cover +1) drops into a hitch that's the first read. A hole appears to form, so Roberson decides to take off. Ross(+1, tackling +1) is blitzing, reads the scramble, and makes an ankle tackle.
O34 3 9 Shotgun 3-wide Okie two Pass 4 Slant Taylor 11
IU check moves back into the backfield from a wide spot. M sends four; Roberson fits a slant in a tiny window between Black(+0.5) and Taylor(+1, cover +1), who has a swat at the ball and almost breaks this up. SYGB.
O45 1 10 Shotgun 3-wide Nickel over Pass 4 Fly Lewis 32
Seven man protection; no one near QB(pressure -2). Lewis(+1, cover +1) has got to be thinking YOU'RE KIDDING ME, RIGHT after this one, a ball dropped in just over his head as he's running in the WR's chest that he can't quite break up until after the WR hits the ground outside and he finally rakes it out.
O13 1 10 Shotgun trips Nickel over slide Run QB zone Avery 3
M slides Ross over a TE in the slot and brings down Avery. IU again goes QB zone aiming outside the tackle with the RB leading. Avery(+0.5) blitzes, getting upfield of a tackle and forcing it back inside. Bolden is headed for the outside hard with an OL chasing him; Roberson cuts it back. Henry(+0.5) has driven his guy back along the line, making the crease small and the cut difficult. Roberson starts to trip a bit; Wormley(+0.5) avoided a cut and flowed down the line to finish the play.
O10 2 7 Pistol 3-wide Nickel over Run N/A Zone stretch Wormley 4
Wormley(+1) is doubled and they attempt to seal him; they can't. He gives a little ground but gets to the hole; Ojemudia(+0.5) also helps close it down. Cutback required. Back bangs into guy blocking Wormley and Henry(+0.5) finishes the play.
O6 3 3 Shotgun 4-wide Nickel even Pass 4 Fade Taylor Inc
Useless BTN, etc. Live this looked like it could have been interference, still hard to tell. Taylor really, really jammed his guy off the line and by the time the ball is in the air his helmet is literally in the chest of the WR. He's not using his arms to hold the guy though and Latimer throws him away in an attempt to catch that ends up futile. Think it's legit, so that's pretty awesome coverage(+2, cover +2).
Drive Notes: FG(23), 35-34, 6 min 3rd Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form D Form Type Rush Play Player Yards
O17 1 10 Shotgun trips TE Nickel even Pass 4 Flare Countess 6
Bubble action with Indiana looking to get deeper passes when M reacts. Countess(+0.5) and Gedeon(+0.5) drop into the desired zones, so Roberson dumps it to the bubble guy at the sidelines. This should be no gain with Countess(-2, tackling -2) coming up with the sideline as a buddy but Countess attacks after first breaking down and whiffs.
O23 2 4 Shotgun trips TE Nickel even Pass 4 Out Countess 7
M barely set on the snap. IU goes with a triangle with their WRs, little out just in front of Countess complete, immediate tackle, pressure -1.
O30 1 10 Shotgun trips TE Nickel over Run N/A QB power Clark 3
G pulls and goes up the middle as the QB and RB go outside. Odd. Clark(+1) compresses the hole on the inside and then releases outside, grabbing a foot and slowing. Morgan is to the hole but slips; he at least forces a cutback to CGordon(+0.5), who flowed around the back of the play and can tackle with the delays.
O33 2 7 Shotgun trips TE Nickel even Pass 5 Fly Stribling 67
The Stribling phaseout. M blitzes, mostly picked up though Morgan(+0.5) does get around a tackle and will pressure if QB goes to a second read. He probably should, as Stribling(-4, cover +2) is step for step and this ball is underthrown. WR just takes it away, and then runs a good long while. TGordon(-2) probably could have forced it out but bit on a juke, slowing up and missing a tackle(-1) that would have left IU at the 15.
M3 2PT 2PT Shotgun 2TE 4-4 under Pass 4 Reverse pass Countess Inc
Kind of an odd call when you're doing so well, but it mostly works, getting the TE out on an out route with an opportunity to catch the ball. Countess vaguely there and has maybe an effect on the play; mostly a drop.
Drive Notes: Touchdown(missed 2PT), 42-40, 3 min 3rd Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form D Form Type Rush Play Player Yards
O25 1 10 Shotgun trips Nickel even Run N/A Inside zone Black? 17
Black or Ryan doesn't get a call here as Black seems to be heading outside and Ryan doesn't try to loop around. Instant release for a G, ton of space right up the middle, dangerous. Morgan does well to get to the back about five yards downfield and grab an ankle; back runs through that but loses his balance and can't do anything but get tackled by Wilson. RPS -1; this was a wide open box; Black -2.
O42 1 10 Shotgun trips Nickel even Pass 4 PA TE seam Morgan 20
Pop pass brutal after last play. Morgan(-1) and Ross(-1) suck up, big space behind them, big easy gain, RPS –1, cover –2.
M38 1 10 Pistol trips Nickel even Penalty N/A Offsides Black 5
Black -1.
M33 2 5 Shotgun trips Nickel even Run N/A Inside zone Ryan 15
Ryan(-2) flies upfield, huge gap, he can't come back down to hold a gain down. Black(-2) goes right at a guard; should still be playside of him; way late realizing and trying to get out. Does not demand double at all so Ross has a guy on him and Taylor(-1) plays it badly on the edge, opening it up.
M18 1 10 Shotgun 3-wide Nickel even Run N/A Inside zone Black 3
M actually plays a run D that looks like it makes any sense. Black(+1) shoves right, taking two OL with him and forcing a cut behind. Ross(+1) is free as a result and cuts back with the back to tackle in the hole.
M15 2 7 Pistol 3-wide 5-1 nickel Pass 5 Scramble Wormley 15
IU rolls the pocket; Morgan(+0.5) blitzing off the edge cuts it off; Clark(+0.5) comes through a little further inside; Henry(-1) flowing as a spy; Ross(-2) flowing too. They're lined up right over each other; someone has to delay to actually be in the cutback lane. Neither is, and Roberson scoots for a touchdown. Wormley(-2) got way out of his lane on a rollout and opened up the lane.
Drive Notes: Touchdown, 49-47, 12 min 4th Q. Somehow, this is the last IU score.
Ln Dn Ds O Form D Form Type Rush Play Player Yards
O2 1 10 Shotgun 2-back triangle TE Nickel 4-3 even Run N/A QB zone Wormley 6
Wilson rolled down over the TE side, anticipating a run to it. Line steps away from the play, poor luck, everyone recovers to flow save Wormley(-2), who just goes straight upfield, getting penetration that only opens up a big, big gap. Wilson(+0.5) chucks a blocker aside to get the edge; Ross(+0.5) tries to shoot the big gap and gets shoved by a TE coming down off the edge; Roberson hits it and Ross(+1 tackling) just barely trips him up as he turns on the jets.
O8 2 4 Shotgun trips TE Nickel 4-3 even Run N/A Zone stretch Bolden 6
Sudfeld in as Roberson dislocates his thumb. No gaps to the interior as Wormley(+1) flows through and gets some penetration as he moves down the line. Henry(+1) also flows; he doesn't come through but he does occupy two guys the whole play. Beyer's on the edge but he gets tripped from behind by the guys Henry is dealing with; he does force it outside. Bolden(-2, tackling -2) is running up unblocked and has an opportunity for a TFL; he barely gets a hand on the back. First down.
O14 1 10 Shotgun 3-wide Nickel even Pass 4 Fly TGordon INT
This is maybe less scary after reviewing it. This isn't a blowby on Taylor; he is in zone and forcing the WR upfield just outside the hash. M is in quarter-quarter-half with TGordon(+4, cover +3) over the top on Taylor, and while this throw is way too much on a line and as a result very interceptable, it looks like this is exactly what the WR expects. A lofted throw probably draws a different reaction from Gordon. Here he makes a play. Pressure -1.
Drive Notes: Interception, 49-47, 8 min 4th Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form D Form Type Rush Play Player Yards
O25 1 10 Shotgun trips Nickel even Run N/A Zone stretch Washington -3
Roberson back. Washington(+2) chucks the C's attempted reach by him and looms in the hole. CGordon(+1) got the LT back and can burst upfield when the back bounces for a TFL.
O22 2 13 Shotgun trips Nickel even Pass N/A PA scramble Ross 5
Stretch fake, Roberson looks to pass, huge gap opens up. Ojemudia(-1) got way upfield as the rest of the guys react to the fake. Glasgow(+0.5) recognizes that Roberson's taking off pretty early and chucks a guy away to pursue. That helps cut it down for Ross(+1), who breaks down and forces Roberson out after a gain much more modest than it looked like it would be.
O27 3 8 Shotgun empty 3-3-5 nickel Pass 3 TE out Ross 11
CGordon in the middle, used as a spy. No pressure(-1) from the three rushers. Ross(-1, cover -1) beat by the TE on another one of those outs, tough in man coverage. RPS -1. Frustrating amount of time.
O38 1 10 Pistol 4-wide Nickel even Pass 4 In Lewis 8
Black(+0.5) drives his man back and is going to pressure without a quick throw against Lewis(-0.5, cover -1), who Latimore shoves away and gets room to YAC on a two yard route.
O46 2 2 Shotgun 3-wide Nickel even Run N/A Inside zone Black 1
M scraping; Black(+1) dives inside of a tackle to force the RB backside. Ryan(+1) also dives in, taking a hit but keeping his feet and tackling. Morgan comes into help after flaring for a possible keep.
O47 3 1 Shotgun 3-wide Nickel even Run N/A Inside zone Ryan 2
M slants away, sending Countess off the corner for contain. Ryan threatens to get inside and then the TE going backside decides to bash Ryan. He goes over, RB goes right up Indiana's back, Morgan can't get around that in time. Well played.
O49 1 10 Shotgun 3-wide Nickel even Pass 4 Hitch Taylor 6
Taylor(+0.5, cover +1) pulls a Marcus Ray on a high throw, immediate inbounds tackle is good in this situation.
M45 2 4 Pistol 3-wide Nickel even Run N/A Power O Ross 15
Oof, Ross, man. Wormley(+1) holds up against a double, giving no ground, so both LBs can flow free. Ross(-2) is filling first. He gets whacked back by the G, which is understandable, but he also gets sealed inside, which is real bad. Morgan is right there if he just gets outside the G's shoulder; he doesn't and the RB breaks it to the secondary. Taylor(-1) gets inside and doesn't trust Wilson to fill for his job, so the RB can bust outside for yet more yards.
M30 1 10 Shotgun 4-wide Nickel over Pass 4 Fly TGordon INT
No pressure(-2); this ball is way overthrown whether because of miscommunication or thumb. Lewis deflects it, Gordon(+1) intercepts.
Drive Notes: Interception, 56-47, 3 min 4th Q. Somehow there's even more of this game. IU's final drive is not charted since it's all extreme desperation and Michigan playing really really soft, as they should.

AHHH

IT BURNS

I'M COLD

Pick one.

GOING WITH COLD

The wind through your eviscerated guts, sort of thing.

HOW DID THIS HAPPEN

Gavrilo Princip was a poor nationalist with delusions—

NO, NO, THE FOOTBALL GAME, NOT THE MONSTROUS HISTORY OF THE 20TH CENTURY CULMINATING IN THE FOOTBALL GAME

A disclaimer first: the combination of Indiana's offense and BTN director guy's refusal to use angle that might actually tell you something about a play—must be related to Michigan Stadium's Vice President Of Replay Utilization—makes it hard to figure out exactly what the hell happened quite often. This was not a skycam game featuring Chris Spielman.

I'M DYING MAKE IT QUICK

Right. My theory of this football game is that they were completely unprepared for Indiana's pace and melted in the harsh fast-forward glare of it. This manifested in a pile of mental mistakes, some obvious (dude racing past cornerback who never gets a call and thinks he's got safety help) and some less so. After the fumble, Mattison managed to hold Indiana out for two plays and then dialed up a blitz that should have worked, as it got Clark and Wilson free off the edge. Indiana is going at mega tempo, though, and both guys go for the quarterback:

Maybe that happens if Indiana's playing tortoise-ball; we've seen things like that from Clark in the past. Given the sheer number of mental mistakes Michigan made, usually against ultra jet tempo, I think shock was a major factor in the carpet-bombing they suffered.

Indiana touchdowns:

  1. Jet tempo, Taylor doesn't get call, doesn't get zone help he expects.
  2. Jet tempo, Wilson can't get over to seam route at numbers from opposite hash, may be misaligned.
  3. Jet tempo, Clark and Wilson both run at a non-mobile QB.
  4. Jet tempo, Michigan is in a borked coverage that leaves Wynn wide open at the goal line. Three man route at the five yard line and there isn't a guy within five yards of Wynn.
  5. Check. Michigan shows 5-1 nickel with blitz and man free. IU rolls pocket away from blitz, Roberson scrambles up middle of vacated pocket for TD.

It's just brutal on you when you've just given up a 17 yard run thanks to 5.5 in the box and the next play comes a second after the ball is put down and it's a pop seam to the tight end. At that pace you are just reacting, and probably reacting to the thing that just happened instead of considering the fact that the line is pass blocking. Do I think that Michigan could have played this better? Yes. But so much of what the game felt like was guys panicking because the ball was about to be snapped. That is a preparation issue, and not a talent one.

The other thing Indiana's tempo gave them was an opportunity to see what the defense was doing and react with a check, or not react, as the case may be. IU's first play after Michigan scored to go up 35-24 was a zone run against five guys in the box; presnap Roberson checks with the sideline, and the sideline is like, uh, yeah, we're good.

Black needs to do a lot better there, but he's not a nose tackle and he's play nose tackle, so… yeah.

That's the third thing IU tempo did: wear out big dudes and make Michigan rotate even more than they usually do. Ben Gedeon, Jourdan Lewis, and Graham Glasgow all saw time after having been excised (or never in) previous gameplans.

So Mattison did not prepare us at all for this game.

He did get smoked. Is anyone surprised, though? This Is Michigan, which means going out to the Rose Bowl and watching USC run the ball zero times in the second half of a 3-3 game that you lose, or, you know, the Horror. A couple of people emailed me this week, worrying about a seemingly dismissive answer Hoke gave about the idea that they'd have to change things to prepare for IU tempo. Heiko's recap of that presser reveals a much less standoffish version of what happened:

A lot of teams use two scout offenses to try to simulate Indiana’s tempo. Have you done that at all?

“We pretty much all year practice high tempo. I run the scout cards for the defense, so I have the offensive line with me. We do it at a pace so we can get reps of what the plan might be against certain plays so that we can see it as coaches and evaluate it if it’s good and all that. So we do that constantly. We’ve got two sets of skill people on both sides, so they’re ready to go. The offensive linemen, they do a tremendous job of finishing and wherever the ball is spotted, I’m running over there. I know it’s hard to believe. We go pretty quick.”

Has you added to that this week?

“It’s pretty much the way we practice.”

I'm sure Hoke believes that Michigan goes pretty quick… or at least did.  When the rubber hit the road here, Indiana showed Michigan what quick really was.

To me the issue goes deeper than Mattison. This is a whole-program issue, one that I think we all wondered about when Michigan hired a guy who was all about manball. If Michigan can't get a two-minute drill executed in under eight minutes, how can we take the idea that Michigan is comfortable at high pace seriously? They suck at it on offense; they suck at it on defense. This goes back to the guy in charge.

At least we can take solace in the fact that a lot of teams seem to be having trouble with the Hoosiers, who are second in the FEI rankings. And that's an attempt to make Indiana's offense look less impressive statistically since their tempo distorts metrics that don't divide, like total offense. FEI takes a drive, figures out how well an average offense expects to do against the defense you're up against, and gives you points based on how far away from that average you end up. It is tempo-immune, and it says the candystripers can play.

Why are you so nice to Mattison instead of Borges /something about PPG

are you seriously using ppg as a stat in a year when the offense is handing teams free touchdowns all the damn time and the defense is intercepting all the things

I'm from the internet. Yes, I am.

I see. Well, FEI can spit out some goofy results from time to time but it reflects what I think is going on with Michigan's units: defense is 17th, offense 35th, special teams a miserable 88th. This defense is still in the same range it was the last couple years, which is what I expected before the season. Thus: overall contentment.

I think it's fundamentally much more difficult to deal with Indiana's offense than Penn State's defense. That stuff is hard, man. MSU will be a test for both coordinators. Borges has an opportunity to show he can do anything against a top notch defense; Mattison has an opportunity to shut down a bad offense.

CHART

I didn't even… oh. I see what you did there.

[Reminder that DL is a MAKE PLAYS position and being neutral is bad; for a full game you want +4 to break even.]

Defensive Line
Player + - T Notes
Heitzman 2 1.5 0.5 Rotation, exhaustion, etc.
Washington 2.5 - 2.5 Did not play that much; probably should get more time.
This is not a recording.
Black 4 9 -5 Repeatedly gashed on ground trying to get pass rush.
Clark 3.5 3.5 0 Had a sack on final useless drive. Cost M four points with bust after fumble.
Wormley 4 5.5 -1.5 Weak for DT at this juncture.
Pipkins - - - DNP
Glasgow 0.5 - 0.5 Half dozen snaps maybe.
Ojemudia 1 4 -3 Out of position.
Godin - - - DNP
Ash - - - DNC, did get a few snaps.
Henry 5.5 1 4.5 Every standard down should have Henry or Washington.
Charlton - - - DNP
TOTAL 23 24.5 -1.5 Tempo saw three guys do something, fourth get gashed.
Linebacker
Player + - T Notes
C.Gordon 4.5 3 1.5 Surprising amount of DE PT.
Morgan 4.5 2.5 2 Blitzed effectively.
Ross 7 7.5 -0.5 Faded late. Tired?
Beyer - - - Invisible.
Ryan 5 2 3 Coming on a bit.
Bolden 1 7 -6 Not a good way to follow up a good performance.
Gedeon 1 - 1 Looked relatively comfortable.
Jenkins-Stone - - - DNP
TOTAL 23 22 1 A passing grade, but only just.
Secondary
Player + - T Notes
Countess 5 5 0 PBUs, wide open Wynn.
Taylor 9.5 5.5 4 Some issues were RPS. Had some great coverage.
Stribling 0.5 7 -6.5 needs weight room, badly.
Hollowell - - - DNP
T. Gordon 6 3 3 Bail-out interception second time this year he's made the key defensive play to win.
Avery 0.5 - 0.5 Yay?
Wilson 1.5 4 -2.5
Furman - - - DNP
J. Clark - - - DNP
Lewis 1 0.5 0.5 ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME –Jourdan Lewis
TOTAL 19 25 -6 Taylor explained in detail.
Metrics
Pressure 16 15 +1 +9 blitz, +7 organic
Coverage 25 17 8 IU made some crazy throws.
Tackling 5 10 33% Major issue.
RPS 6 19 -13 Tempo destroyed M.

A pretty appalling DL performance; it is mystifying to me how Michigan can put Black and Wormley or Heitzman out there as the DTs. Henry and Washington are not rushers, but they would give Michigan a fighting chance with six guys in the box.

Everything else is also flames, though the starting linebackers coped pretty well, as did Raymon Taylor. Which I think you're probably going to point at right about…

Our defensive backs are shambling meat-sacks. MEAT SAAAAACKS.

I'm actually not that down on them. Stribling obviously had major issues, not only by phasing out of our reality but also by turning a simple five yard out into 26 yards by missing a tackle. He needs 15 pounds. He is a freshman. He actually might be pretty good next year.

Countess was solid when not falling prey to the mental errors that beset everyone. The wide open short touchdown had to be on him, because Stribling wasn't going to be able to cover two guys to that sideline. Other than that he was probably the best guy out there. I said he'd gotten burned in the game column, but the longer Wynn touchdown was not on him. It was more on Wilson and a defense that was vulnerable to that particular play given how they aligned. He got a PBU on a corner route that was straight out of pressing Michael Floyd and living; he was close enough to bother IU receivers; he is pretty good. He's not the crazy star we thought he'd be, at least not yet.

Meanwhile… Taylor is the 2013 Jonas Mouton Memorial Huge Plays Both Ways defender. You can assign some of his performance to the team-wide inability to keep pace with the Hoosiers. The opening touchdown was that, obviously. What's left after you slice out the stuff where he didn't know what he was supposed to be doing is a combination of nice plays, like a PBU that got Michigan one of those punt things, and boggling almost-plays, like the should-have-been pick six that was not.

I think he's getting better. Set aside confusion that was a defense-wide issue and Taylor's day is actually kind of good. When they tried a fade route on him that he was in man coverage on he got his head around and had the throw hit him in the shoulder. Even when Indiana was getting completions on him they were often narrow things. The shoulda-pick-six is one; this slant is something I'll take from a CB all day:

Useless BTN director never showed a replay of Taylor's coverage on a fade route he broke up in a way that really seemed like it could have been interference:

From the stands I can tell you that Taylor simply would not let the WR release. By the time the ball was in the air, Taylor was in the guy's chest and gave him no chance to catch and underthrown ball. If it's not interference that's great coverage.

I did have an issue with a couple of plays where IU got to Taylor on run plays and he attempted to fight inside instead of holding the edge. Let the safeties do their jobs, man. I still think Taylor's day was considerably more good than bad.

Finally, Jourdan Lewis as got be just… like…

…I'ma quit this bull and go be a monk.

Any indication that Jake Ryan is back to being Jake Ryan?

Just flashes here and there. Ryan had a trademark chaos play as he forced a throwaway:

He did not get a ton of playing time, and did have one flight upfield on first and five that was one of three contributing factors to a 15-yard run.

Linebacker play seemed not so good.

It kind of was, it kind of wasn't. Ross got bashed out of a hole on power and made a rookie move by getting sealed to the same side as his help. That's a bad memory of linebacking corps from a few years ago. Bolden whiffed a potential TFL in space, thought he was the force player on a zone run that Ross bailed him out on, but Ross did bail him out. That TFL miss was bad, though:

Bolden was out there in OT against PSU, earning that PT with a good game, but he reverted to the overwhelmed guy we saw in the first half of the year. Bad game for it, because it's hard to get him out of there once he starts struggling.

Anything else?

Here is the Norfleet return that was fun.

Heroes?

Uh… yeah, I'm going with Raymon Taylor. Thomas Gordon bailed Michigan out with the IT late.  Willie Henry was Michigan's best run defender.

Maybe not so heroic?

Team-wide, Michigan was not prepared for IU's speed. Put that on Mattison if you want, to me that is a Hoke issue that stems from his philosophy. Black got gashed, a lot, and did not provide extra pass rush. Stribling needs to make plays.

What does it mean for Michigan State and the future?

Hopefully not much. Indiana's tempo is a program-defining thing. You can install a tiny fraction of it in a couple weeks, but Michigan's not going to see much if any of that against Iowa and MSU. Nebraska, Northwestern, and OSU all have elements of that in their offense but to a much smaller extent. They might burn Michigan for a play here and there, but it won't be the foundation of a gameplan. Also, Michigan just got a huge wakeup call right before a bye.

Raymon Taylor is improving. I think he's quality. I know that's a contrarian take after that game, but his issues were neither technique or athleticism; I'll take a guy who just barely misses an INT a week after he jumps a route for a badass one.

At the other corner spot I guess you just roll with it and hope the things we've seen are small sample size outliers. I think you can make the case for that. In defensive backery, 80% of success is just showing up.

Michigan needs to have a nose-type person on the field in any standard down. Henry or Washington; this business with a 280 pound SDE lined up next to another SDE who is probably a freshman is an invitation to get gashed. It's been like this all year, though, and I don't expect it to change.

Ryan's showing flashes. Come on, baby.

Gedeon may start eating into Bolden's PT. I speculated Michigan might drop him just in time for a good game against PSU; after another worrisome outing there is now a contender for his snaps.

Comments

Space Coyote

October 25th, 2013 at 4:25 PM ^

But from my understanding, Dymonte needs to learn how to cover before he can play regularly on the field. I think he may be a bit further away than some hoped. e has the athletic tools to be the guy, easily, but probably not the technique or consistency they want at the position.

I think Hill or Clark might be the guy next year, or you might see Taylor or Countess move back there temporarily as they did with Marlin Jackson because they feel comfortable with the CB numbers.

Section 1

October 25th, 2013 at 10:38 PM ^

I was very surprised that we saw almost zero Dymonte.  That's not criticism of M coaches; just mystification on my part.  I wonder what they are seeing/not seeing.  Ditto Avery.  Avery is getting surprisingly few downs.

I am just as surprised that Ben Gedeon is not redshirting, much less getting so much more playing time.  Here again, I am an enormous fan of the quality of this kid; I was thrilled that we got him instead of Stanford.  I am not criticizing him, or the coaches.  I am just surprised that any freshman would be put into that spot given all of the other talent on the roster.

Finally... a friend asked me about this and I had no answer... Josh Furman?  Even his role on special teams, where I thought he was clearly one of the best bodies on the field, seems to be diminished.

Not to be too harsh on Hoke -- I really don't intend to personalize this -- do coaches secretly and/or instinctively prefer freshmen whom they recruited to upperclassmen they inherited from the previous regime?

Space Coyote

October 26th, 2013 at 11:34 AM ^

Thomas has had trouble in coverage, which is why he hasn't seen time at NB. Avery has struggled on the outside and they seem to like the versatility that Countess brings at the NB position over Avery.

I think Gedeon is seeing more time almost purely because of his coverage ability. He has looked, for the most part, more fluid in his coverage responsibilities than the other LBs.

No answer for a decreased role for Furman on ST. That seems to be pretty much what he's built for, unless he's been undisciplined when out there, which can quickly ruin ST. That's just a guess though.

Hugh White

October 25th, 2013 at 3:57 PM ^

Stribling's missed tackle wasn't just a missed tackle.  It was the worst type of missed tackle because it lacked so many fundamentals:  no break down, head on the wrong side of the ball carier, face down, trying to get a hero-knock-out instead of wrapping.  I am sure that is very frustrating from the coach's perspective.

readyourguard

October 25th, 2013 at 3:57 PM ^

Our future opponents are cackling with glee at some of our defensive performances this year.  To that I say....good.  I hope they come into the game against us fat, happy, and content.  This isn't a bad defense.  There are young guys in there almost making great plays.  "Almost" will disappear with experience.  Experience is coming on a daily basis.

I don't see the coaches or the players panicking.  Therefore, I shall not panick.

Thanks for the write-up Brian.  Great work as always.

Eck Sentrik

October 25th, 2013 at 3:59 PM ^

Anyone who you could possibly consider an expert was saying the same things about Borges choking. Just about any random girls-school-for-the-blind (see:MSU) can put buckets of points on IU so I wouldn't exactly call that vindication.

ijohnb

October 25th, 2013 at 4:13 PM ^

been around for a long time man, you are not the first to pull out the "coach knows more about football than you" zinger.  The fact that Hoke, Borges, etc. knows more about football than us is not a revelation, it is just accepted as fan, so all of the analysis on this blog is with that in mind, kind of the jumping off point for the discussions more or less. 

timot

October 25th, 2013 at 4:34 PM ^

I have been reading this blog for a long time. While it may be something you suggest is a given, I would argue Brian is not accepting this when he writes this:

"To me the issue goes deeper than Mattison. This is a whole-program issue, one that I think we all wondered about when Michigan hired a guy who was all about manball. If Michigan can't get a two-minute drill executed in under eight minutes, how can we take the idea that Michigan is comfortable at high pace seriously? They suck at it on offense; they suck at it on defense. This goes back to the guy in charge."

He does not have enough information to know if this problem is program-wide or Hoke centric. He just doesn't know. That he acts like he does, is irritating to me.  Maybe if he said "it seems" like this may be a whole-program issue, it would be less irritating. Maybe if he said this "may well" go back to the guy in charge, it would be less irritating to me. 

There is much more than viewing video (and BTN video at that, not coaches video) to understanding these issues. I don't think making  absolute statements such as in this post is warranted. 

Monocle Smile

October 25th, 2013 at 4:39 PM ^

Brian DID put "To me" in that very block you quoted, so you might want to try again, ace.

This isn't exactly STRONG TAKE material; it's just Brian's (mildly frustrated) opinion, and it's been that way for a while. How you haven't picked up on that and insist on posting criticism of a perceived lack of pedantry with the language is beyond me.

Space Coyote

October 25th, 2013 at 5:04 PM ^

Is the fact that Brian has consistently and for the most part rightfully defended against things such as "Spread teams can't play defense." Saban said something along the lines of the up-tempo teams don't take the time to properly teach players between plays so they don't get the technique and yada, yada, yada, and there may be a hint of truth in that, but by-and-large it's only a hint of truth and there is nothing systemic about the spread offense that precludes a good defense.

But while he's defended against something that may have a hint of truth in it, but is nonetheless vastly overblown, he has managed to now not only believe the that the opposite is true about spread teams, but believes has turned the tables and is now saying that non-spread (non-up-tempo if you will) teams can't play defense against up-tempo teams because it's systemic.

Not all teams are running the triple option to stop the triple option. Michigan didn't change to a triple option team the week before Air Force to defend Air Force. They did what they did within their system, as all teams do, to prepare for the opponent. I'm sure next time they'll do some things differently to prepare better. But because they are a different team it doesn't mean that they can't defend, the same is true for a slow-tempo team playing an up-tempo team as it is for whatever team playing a triple option team.

To me, it comes down to "how many problems on this team can we blame on the fact that we huddle". Despite typically getting to the LOS and in a set position with 10+ seconds left on the clock, this blog regularly concede that the problem includes; delay of game penalties, checks at the line, poor rush offense, poor decisions by Gardner, a lack of audibles, a lack of adjustments, a lack of QB runs, a lack of spread concepts, etc. Now we are blaming it for getting beat on defense. The system is the problem for most of those teams. I don't mind the argument that people would like to see more up-tempo or at least a change in tempo, I would too. But to blame everything on the fact that we huddle because it's "feelingsball", it's a cop out, in my opinion. It's certainly not that there aren't issues or problems that need to be fixed. It's that we are piling on things that are maybe about 1000th on the list maybe and acting like they are this pie in the sky and the if we fixed that, life would be good.

FWIW, Brian is completely intitled to his opinion and more than free to express it on his blog. I don't have a problem there. I don't have a problem that the coaches have forgotten more than all of us here know. I don't care if Brian has never coached or played football. None of that is highly relavent to him being able to form, for the most part, highly valued and respectable conclusions. But he does keep barking up this tree, and a ton of people understandable (to a point) follow because of the credibility he's earned. I just really don't agree with the rallying cry he may not directly be responsible for starting against anything non-spread, but I'm sure he's at least aware he's indirectly stoking it's flames. Not that that is his problem or isn't his right (after all, he's earned his praise and standing within the community), but you have to understand some people's (read: mine) mild annoyance with it.

MI Expat NY

October 25th, 2013 at 5:10 PM ^

I don't think he's saying all "manball" teams can't handle spreads or high tempo offenses.  I think he's saying MICHIGAN under the Carr branch of coaching hasn't handled spreads or high tempo offenses well at all (I'm ignoring the RichRod years, because his defense couldn't handle ANYTHING).  I take his statement as frustration, simple as that.  Discussing the offense in that paragraph was simply tying the previous paragraph in.  Hoke thought we were prepared for Indiana's tempo based on our standard defensive prep, but if our offense has generally been unable to run a competent 2-minute drill, how fast could the scout team really be going?  

Space Coyote

October 25th, 2013 at 5:16 PM ^

In isolation, I certainly think it could be considered fair enough. I just think the repetitive nature of ignoring some of the bigger issues and addressing this one are catching up to people, including me, when it comes to the blame game. I do think you make valid points, but I guess that's my counter to it.

MI Expat NY

October 25th, 2013 at 5:34 PM ^

What bigger issues has he been ignoring?  Youth on the offensive line?  Denard/Devin turnover issues? Lack of playmakers on defense?  I think he's talked all of those to death.  We're all aware that this team isn't perfect.  

But, I think there are two things that are fairly undeniable at this point: (1) our offense can't adjust tempo at all, whether for the 2-minute drill or just a change of pace to get the offense going, something that can be done in all types of offenses; and (2) offenses that have shreaded our defense in the last three seasons have been spread-majority teams with an ability to go up-tempo (and Alabama).  Is it really so ridiculous to have a unifying, program wide theory that says those two things might occasionally be connected?  Certainly isn't the whole reason, and doesn't explain everything, but when I see an offense that too often gets to the line without enough time to check and a defense that frequently tips its blitz, sees the offense check, and runs the blitz anyways, it's not crazy to think that the coaching staff as a whole doesn't value some of the newer concepts that have frankly made coaching easier and better across college football.  

soup-er-UM

October 25th, 2013 at 5:48 PM ^

this quoted paragraph below is a fairly strong rebuke of the entire program, basically for not running the spread.  It is prominently displayed at the beginning of the UFR and states that Michigan has a "whole program issue" because they have trouble with Indiana's offense at the moment.  My point is there are a number of reasons they had trouble with the offense, and not running a jet tempo spread may contribute but doesn't constitute a program level issue. 

To me the issue goes deeper than Mattison. This is a whole-program issue, one that I think we all wondered about when Michigan hired a guy who was all about manball. If Michigan can't get a two-minute drill executed in under eight minutes, how can we take the idea that Michigan is comfortable at high pace seriously? They suck at it on offense; they suck at it on defense. This goes back to the guy in charge.

 

MI Expat NY

October 25th, 2013 at 10:07 PM ^

I don't see any mention of spread in that statement.  He says we suck at two minute offense, which is true.  He says we suck at defending high tempo offense, which IU exploited to the tune of 40+ points.  He hypothesizes that this is a program problem in that they coaches don't seem to appreciate what tempo changes accomplishes.  I don't remotely see why this is unreasonable.  

And, FWIW, Brian has been far more excited about Borges's system than many considering the utter playcalling failures demonstrated in the first couple years.  A lot of support for a guy fired by Auburn despite preferring a system loved by the then head coach.

soup-er-UM

October 26th, 2013 at 12:14 AM ^

"Manball" is the accepted opposite of spread so he mentioned it by contradiction. The difference of opinion I have, I guess, is that I don't see any basis for the coaches "failure to appreciate what tempo changes accomplish." I think they appreciate it but choose to focus their attention elsewhere. Also, generally "tempo" is a synonym for spread and implying that a lack of tempo is a program wide problem is imposing an inherent bias that (1) the spread is an inherently better system and (2) the coaches are stuck in the Stone Age for not employing the spread. I'm fine with the preference but dislike the idea that anyone who prefers power football is inherently either out-intelligenced or hopelessly stuck in the past. And I haven't seen the excitement in for the system. I think he has been excited about the recruiting but very critical of the system.

Space Coyote

October 25th, 2013 at 6:29 PM ^

So they take out a number of the issues that I'd put ahead of huddling. But pretty much every fundamental issue, from footwork, to vision, to holding on to the football, to down blocks, to pulling blocks, the holding up to doubles, to every other somewhat specific thing is more important than our pace.

And I don't think tempo has really given Michigan problems before this. In 2011 ND scored more than 30 and no one else, but ND scored a bunch at the end on a defense that was still learning to actually play football. OSU put up points for reasons that weren't tempo based. But Nebraska didn't. Northwestern didn't. Other tempo teams didn't. That year, Michigan's two loses: Iowa and MSU, the two least tempo teams on the schedule.

In 2012 Michigan allowed 30+ points 3 times. Alabama, Northwestern in a game that I don't remember tempo being as much of an issue as Siemien being a throw God, and against South Carolina in a bowl game without our starting CB with a last second TD to push them to 33. I just don't recall tempo being an issue until Michigan faced the absolute fastest team they had ever faced. Did it catch them a bit off guard? Probably more than they'd like to admit. But probably because it's not something that has been a huge issue previously.

MI Expat NY

October 25th, 2013 at 10:30 PM ^

And I think he's harped on all those "broad" issues far more than he has harped on huddling. Why Brian harps on huddling, to the extent he does, is that nobody has given a solid reason why huddling EVERY play is necessary or even good coaching in modern football and that our insistence on huddling, like the tight punt formation, is just an unfortunate sign that our coaching staff might be behind the times.  I think that is a very reasonable concern.  It doesn't explain everything wrong with this team, but I don't think Brian has ever said it does.

On defense.  ND scored one 4th quarter TD in 2011, hardly a bunch at the end.  Plus you had gifts like Rees dropping the ball to keep that score down.  The highest scoring game that year was Ohio St. with 34 putting Braxton Miller in a spread.  Even a very mediocre Northwestern put up 24 in a half.  It's hardly a defense of Mattison's issues against the spread that Borges laid an absolute egg against teams with pro-style offenses.

I don't think Mattison has necessarily been bad against spread offenses, but I think it's clear that they've given him more trouble than pro style defenses. I don't think anyone claims you have to run spread to stop it.  If that were true, Mattison's time at Florida should have been a good primer.  But, again, we've been bad against the spread under the Carr coaching tree, and it's frustrating.  It's also raises the possibility that maybe there's some problem at the top of the food chain that keeps us from adequately preparing for these type teams.  I don't see an issue with someone raising that possibility.

gbdub

October 25th, 2013 at 6:18 PM ^

Well, when your head coach flat out says "We don't need to do anything differently to prepare for Indiana's tempo" and then you get torched by Indiana's tempo while your DC flails about wildly in front of hastily procured towels, I think it does speak to leadership that doesn't have a complete grasp on the impact of offensive tempo in modern football. So Brian's explanation (head coach doesn't care about high tempo = we're bad at high tempo) is not particularly implausible.

Here's my grand unified theory on Brian: he fundamentally believes football to be describable via quantitative analysis. He does not like things that are not amenable to analysis. He gets super annoyed when coaches make decisions that not only are not based on analysis, but that directly oppose reasonable results of analysis. To him, "Because that's how we've always done it" (feelingsball) is the worst possible reason to do something. Far from being overly arrogant, I think the stridency of his opinions on things like slow huddles and NFL style punting are more like "If I, a simple sports blogger, can see and understand this, why can't you, who knows so much more than I? Or at least provide me with a rational explanation?"

You may disagree with that line of reasoning, but I for one am glad that people like Brian exist in the sports writing world because prior to the advent of blogs like this one, the fan only got the "feelingsball" take from dumbed down color guys on ESPN.

Anyway, I think you overstate the degree to which Brian ascribes all our problems to huddling up and going slow on offense. Rather, he sees it as a particularly egregious case of doing something the numbers say is bad, and that making a chage could plausibly mitigate some of our other issues. It's not that it's our only problem, it's that it's the lowest hanging fruit.

ironman4579

October 25th, 2013 at 6:35 PM ^

Your last paragraph is the problem though.  The numbers don't say those things are "bad." They say they aren't as efficient.  It's not the same thing, but Brian and many around here seem to act as if it is.  In fact, more efficient doesn't necessarily mean more effective in winning games either.  But again, some around here seem to have decided a certain way is "best," and are just as closed minded about that as they accuse Hoke and Borges of being about manball.

Space Coyote

October 25th, 2013 at 6:36 PM ^

But if Michigan makes a few stops they should, tempo doesn't become the issue it does. The bigger problem was not making plays they should have made, not eventually getting beat by the tempo.

Since Hoke's arrival, I don't recall tempo ever being a huge disadvantage to Michigan until this Indiana game. At least not more of an issue as it is to other teams that get pushed onto their heals.

As far as analysis, I'm all for analysis. I'm an engineer. But you can't simply use analysis to describe human things. This doesn't apply with everything (not doing the spread punt), but the amount of attention things like huddling gets is well, well beyond the amount it should, even if you think it's part of the problem (I really don't think huddling is bad, even if I'd like to see tempo changed more often with the occasional no-huddle look).

At the end of the day, the amount of reason that Michigan got out-paced that can be put on the offense is absolutely minuscule. It's neglagible compared to the fundamental issues of communication, of technique, of not finishing plays, of not tackling, of not covering well enough, of not getting off the field when they should, of not preparing it to the degree they actually had to compared to where they thought they were. I'm not saying they prepared for the tempo properly, I'm saying that that isn't because the offense is doing something that isn't up-tempo.

gbdub

October 25th, 2013 at 7:32 PM ^

Well sure, but pretty much every competitive game can be described by "if a few things had gone differently..." That doesn't change the responsibility of the coaches to prepare players for those situations, nor does it absolve anyone of responsibility for their errors. Just because tempo was not the only thing that went wrong does not mean it's wrong to call out Mattison for not being prepared for tempo.

Your last paragraph is where I think you're overstating (or oversimplifying) Brian's argument. It's not "we huddle on offense, therefore our defense sucks against fast teams". Rather, it's "Our head coach does not fundamentally believe that practicing to play at a high tempo is important (exemplified by, but not limited to, our inability/unwillingness to go high-tempo on offense) and that's part of why we got caught off guard". You may disagree with that argument (it's certainly contentious) but it's a bit more nuanced than I think you're giving it credit for.

Re: analysis, I mostly agree. It's not the be-all, end all of human things (but neither is "they are human" a valid reason to ignore analysis). I'm just glad someone is an analysis junkie to offset some of the "you didn't play, so you just can't understand / it's all about MOMENTUM and BEING CLUTCH" meatheadery, even if it does go too far sometimes.

I don't think no huddle is a miracle cure. But what I (frustratingly) haven't heard from the coaches is a logical explanation for why they do some of the "archaic" things they do. Spread punting and getting to the line fast enough for a sideline check are things that have visible, tangible benefits to college offenses - they aren't the only way of doing things, but you'd like to think the coaches at least understand them and are making an informed decision to go a different direction. Even you admit to liking varied tempo offenses (the NFL certainly does), and I think we can all agree there have been some late game time management head scratchers (e.g. the PSU last drive spike after an OOB play) speaking to a lack of comfort in that mode. And the coaches have been relatively open to a lot of questions, but explanations for those always come back to "that's how we do things", and that's frustrating for the scientific-minded.

timot

October 25th, 2013 at 4:59 PM ^

Oh well, delicate flower, internet tough guy whatever you guys say.  I think Brian definitely thinks it goes beyond Mattison. I also think he means exactly what he says. He has a strong global opinion about the program which, in my opinion, he does not have enough information to substantiate. Once again, I would expect more humility after the excoriation of Borges followed by the record breaking offensive performance last Saturday. 

InterM

October 25th, 2013 at 5:03 PM ^

from that record breaking performance against Indiana last weekend.  I know everyone here is expecting Borges to light it up again next weekend against MSU's defense.  Heck, who can even remember what Borges did before the Indiana game -- we on the outside just don't have the information, right?

aiglick

October 25th, 2013 at 5:30 PM ^

There is a reason consulting exists in the business world. Many times it can be useful for an outsider to offer fresh perspective on a problem that the actors within an organization cannot see because they are dealing with so many day-to-day problems. Brian doesn't know everything but he makes a lot of good points that could explain what we see on the field and uses data to back them up.

dnak438

October 25th, 2013 at 10:34 PM ^

So according to you, Brian needs to have (a) information that he could not possibly have, or information that he could have but couldn't admit to having, or (b) be a D-I quality coordinator, in order to say any of the things that he says on his own blog?

Come on, man.

Reader71

October 26th, 2013 at 12:26 PM ^

It is a little silly, bit I do see his point. As Brian learns more and more, his comfort level in game theory/player evaluation/scheme analysis get higher and higher. His confidence grows, based on some of his ideas being validated. Its entirely possible that the strength of his convictions has grown to a point that, when he says "we should do this," he thinks he knows better than the coaches. That's not controversial. It is the nature of fandom. But the commenter has a point. I am not one who believes that one has to have played to understand the game. But it is obvious that one has to have been in the room when Hoke told Borges to run at all costs vs PSU in order to make that claim. Brian probably has never heard Hoke tell his staff to ignore tempo in preparations. More to the point, Brian may have never seen a Hoke-led practice, or any practice at all. He has certainly never designed and planned a practice. tl;dr - Brian can learn a lot about scheme, but I doubt he has any knowledge of internal politics or the intricacies of practice (and it is intricate, as they are planned to the minute due to NCAA regulations).

InterM

October 28th, 2013 at 12:08 PM ^

I just don't get the point of folks who like to remind us that the coaches know more than Brian does.  Simply put, so what?  If I could read Borges' blog where he tells me why he made the play calls that seem questionable to those of us on the outside, then maybe it would be relevant that Brian knows less than him.  Heck, even at his press conferences (see post-PSU for prime example), Borges is just as apt to get defensive (oh no, someone said "bubble screen"!) as to provide any insight into his game plans, and Hoke, of course, seldom lets any information out of the "Fort."  (Mind you, I'm not saying I'm in favor of the coaches spilling more "insider" info at their pressers -- though I think Mattison strikes a better balance than Borges in providing helpful answers to good questions and taking responsibility for weaknesses in game planning and preparation, as he did in his post-Indiana presser.)

So, given that Brian, like the rest of us, doesn't have access to the intricacies of the program, and given that there's no other source where outsiders can get this information, the only question that matters is whether Brian is better than his competitors in analyzing the limited information we have to work with.  To the extent that the poster above wants Brian to be more "humble" in stating his views, that's a matter of writing style that is far less important (to me) than the substance of the analysis.  The substance is what brings me here, and the high traffic numbers indicate I'm not alone.  Even better, the analysis here is good enough to serve as a jumping-off point for others (e.g. Space Coyote) to offer their views, so I get the benefit of thoughtful and well-informed disagreements about why the coaches might have done what they did.  That's why it's so frustrating to me to read yet another guy say, "Hur, Brian thinks he knows more than the coaches do!", like that's some great insight (particularly when it's been repeated 1,000 times before).

soup-er-UM

October 25th, 2013 at 4:21 PM ^

Is there anything wrong with the program that we can't blame on "manball"?  Do you think there might be other more important issues besides the fact that they don't go at jet speed on offense and so are used to practicing against that? It seems that indiana puts up points against everyone, not just those teams that spend time practicing at warp speed.

We are perfectly capable of being a very good team without running the spread.  Just because it's new and fun doesn't mean the coaches are idiots for not running it. 

Your sad devotion to that ancient religion has not helped you conjure up the stolen data tapes or given you clairvoyance enough to find the Rebels' hidden fort!

funkywolve

October 25th, 2013 at 4:23 PM ^

 

Michigan needs to have a nose-type person on the field in any standard down. Henry or Washington; this business with a 280 pound SDE lined up next to another SDE who is probably a freshman is an invitation to get gashed. It's been like this all year, though, and I don't expect it to change.

 

My worry for OSU is when Meyer and OSU's OC see both Henry and Washington out of the game, it's going to be a large dose of Hyde betweent tackles and OSU is going to go fast pace so UM can't sub and get Henry or Washington in there.

Space Coyote

October 25th, 2013 at 4:28 PM ^

Outside of Northwestern, there isn't a team left on the schedule that shouldn't had had Pipkins getting many reps.

FWIW, I think the nickel package against OSU will feature a true nose when Q isn't out getting a rest. OSU is a very different spread than Northwestern for instance. They are very much a downhill spread unit that likes to play power football. Meyer has been that way dating back to his Utah days, and really fell in love with it when he had Tebow at Florida.