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We're #3.5. Spencer's top whatever:

Handing Florida two pick-sixes was only sportsmanlike, really. Without them, this is a 41-3 game or so, a complete wash, an elimination. Michigan’s chief concerns coming into the year were finding playmakers down the field. Tarik Black and Nick Eubanks did that serviceably enough, particularly so when you consider that Wilton Speight didn’t really have a great game and that the run game took a minute to lock in a stranglehold.

In sum, this Michigan team has great bones, is a handful along the defensive line, has two running backs capable of following an mean offensive line down the field, and has a quarterback who needs help from all that. But really, who doesn’t need a team? And who, among Michgan fans, will ever question the team? The team, the team, the team?

Alabama is a boring #1, as they always are.

Further Florida aftermath. I forgot to check Matt Hinton's weekly column on the SEC since usually it doesn't include extended treatises on a Big Ten team. This time it does:

It was, as McElwain said, a “plain and simple, take your whooping” kind of defeat. But the response from Florida fans was obvious too: Just how long do they have to keep taking it? Is Florida content to be a “take your whooping” kind of outfit? The Gators are nearly a decade removed from national relevance, or even from fielding a remotely competent quarterback for more than a week or two at a time. They’re no closer to filling that role after flip-flopping between Feleipe Franks and Malik Zaire on Saturday, to little effect, or to identifying a reliable playmaker among the skill players. The top two candidates, tailback Jordan Scarlett and receiver Antonio Callaway, were both among the late-breaking wave of suspensions before the game, but anyone who thinks either would have made a notable difference against the Wolverines hasn’t been paying close enough attention over the past two years.

Hinton also includes a long discussion of what the hell was going on with the illegal formation penalty—"dunno," more or less—and surveys the wreckage of the Florida offensive line:

That play — exactly the type of overwhelming debacle that used to unleash “S-E-C! S-E-C!” chants on beaten and broken-down Big Ten teams — was irrelevant to the outcome. But it was thoroughly emblematic of the line’s gradual deterioration over the course of the game. The play that preceded it was also a sack resulting in a fumble; in retrospect the Gators would have been better off if Michigan had recovered the first one just short of the goal line, or frankly if they’d just conceded at that point to taking an intentional safety. At least taking a knee in the end zone would have saved Zaire from a blindside hit everyone else in the building saw coming a mile away.

Every year you take up the banner of whatever P5 team you played in the nonconference. Last year Colorado worked out spectacularly well. This year... it's going to be weird and frustrating to be a proxy Florida fan this year. I fear I will understand the mindset all too well.

Also in aftermath, audio versions. Do you like goofily uninformed folks yellin'? Here you go:

How about the reasonably informed?

This was a bit of a comedown for a fanbase that was a wee bit optimistic headed into a game they were solid underdogs in.

They're not wrong though. Michigan's defensive performance was highly encouraging but it would be wise to pump the breaks at least a little. Florida's wasted more talent than anyone else in the country on that side of the ball:

That is incredible. Tim Tebow left eight years ago. Florida has endured eight years of Al Borges.

Is this the best sideline reporter moment of all time? Yes. Yes it is.

It's pushed over the top by Orgeron standing in the background of the shot. Congratulations to Allison Williams for surviving this stunt; going in there was a 50/50 chance Orgeron would overhear and turn her into gumbo.

I mean, okay, I guess you are Jim Harbaugh. Harbaugh on the first INT, which I still think is mostly on Crawford:

"Not throwing the ball high over the middle. Those balls get tipped and have a tendancy to go up in the air. During camp we played a lot against man-to-man defenses (vs. Don Brown), with a lot of pressure," Harbaugh said. "I take this onto myself coaching. There are times you throw high and you get away with it because it's zero coverage and there's no deep safeties back there. ... But when you're playing against (zone) safeties, you have to keep the ball below the shoulders.

"Shoulders down, so the arms of the receivers don't go up and tip the ball. We've made more of an emphasis on that."

Speight could have thrown it better; Crawford still had it hit him in the hands, and it looked like he wasn't even fully extended when the ball hit.

I don't really get the other bit of Harbaugh press conference Speight critique:

"Quarterbacks, they want to show that they're the one and they're the guy. And sometimes that leads to always trying to make a big play or always trying to make a play that proves that," he said. "We talked about that (with Speight). You have to let that come to you. Operate within the system, with the reads, be a disciple with mechanics and those big plays will come to you.

Speight's deep shots in this game:

  • completions to Tarik Black and Nick Eubanks
  • PI drawn by Crawford on accurate post
  • Fade route down sideline to Crawford is OOB
  • pick six on high-ish ball at open receiver
  • incompletion when Speight makes a killer check only to miss a wide open TD

I think that's it. The only one of those that was even a little forced was the PI. Speight's decisions against Florida were excellent. His execution was occasionally lacking. I imagine that's a response to a leading I-already-wrote-my-article question and not something Harbaugh's pulling out of thin air.

Wild thing. Yes, this occurred:

Harbaugh said he’s looking for “a season of increases.” That applies, he said, to everyone on the roster -- the coaching staff, the starting quarterback, players on both sides of the ball and even the rookie kicker who carved a zig-zag pattern into the back of his hair last week as an ode to the closer mentality of Rick Vaughn.

Yes, that would be Charlie Sheen’s heartthrob, fire-throwing, near-sighted ex-con character from "Major League" -- yet another reference that predates the referencer’s existence on this planet. Nordin said he had to show YouTube clips to a couple of his teammates for them to understand what he was going for. When asked Saturday if the similarities between him and Vaughn stretch beyond their hairstyles, Nordin smiled. “Yeah, I think so,” he said. Then he turned and walked back into the locker room.

Even the damn kicker on this team has some attitude.

Etc.: Georgia will be without Jacob Eason against ND this weekend; ND favored by almost a touchdown. Here's a new Michigan tumblr. Maryland's win over Texas came at high cost: torn ACL for Piggy, fractured ankle for Aniebonam.

Comments

Squash34

September 5th, 2017 at 4:36 PM ^

I don't really think people are saying speight has no blame. When people bring up Crawford it's because people are putting all, or most of the blame on speight. You are right, the catch would have been a good one. However, it was not thrown poorly enough to be classified as a great or amazing one. I actually think Perry made a more difficult catch on the play he spun the ball because the DB was all over him and he had to full extend. I guess the point is, the ball certainly needed to be in a different spot with the 2 high zone, but the starting wr for Mich needs to be able to pull that ball in when the pass high and slightly behind. And I think moving forward you will see Crawford settling down and making the harder catches.

Kevin13

September 5th, 2017 at 5:31 PM ^

those two passes are like comparing night and day. Not sure why there are so many apologist for Speight and a bad pass. Yes even Harbaugh said it was not a good pass. It Crawford makes the catch everyone is talking about the great catch he made. Instead it's a bad pass and everyone is blaming him for not coming down with it??????

RobSk

September 5th, 2017 at 6:00 PM ^

On the Black catch, he was almost stationery, and the ball was perhaps a foot above his head. Also, he was within 10 feet of the sideline.  IMO, that ball was on time and on target, and should be caught every time.

On the Crawford play, he was running close to full speed across the middle, and had to jump near two feet in the air with his hands stretched out full...

To say those catches were of the same level of difficulty, or that those balls were equally well thrown is.. IMO, just not even close to accurate.

          Rob

getsome

September 5th, 2017 at 1:29 PM ^

gotta say i was psyched to see DPJ back on that 1st punt...further proof of the staffs meritocracy at work, trusting a gifted true frosh to field punts and make plays in that environment.  obviously itd be tough to replace peppers unique knack for confidently fielding punts and saving field position while still presenting legit big play threat...but DPJ looked fine.

they had a few issues but great start overall for ST.  strong, reliable kicking and stout D goes a long way

dragonchild

September 5th, 2017 at 2:13 PM ^

That's a bias I hope UFR will eliminate.

First there was the TD pass that got wiped out by the refs, a lob on the run to Crawford, across his body, in traffic.  It was a hell of a dangerous throw; #33 was right there but somehow lost track of the ball I guess.  I mean, it worked, but it was one of those "the result does not reflect the foolishness of the decision" things that cause idiots to go bonkers.

Not to mention the pick-six wasn't the first time a pass clanged off Crawford's hands; he tried to double-catch an earlier pass that had all the same ingredients -- the ball came in high, early and hot.  It looked Shane Morris-esque; more zip than the pass needed, or should've had.  I'm not disagreeing with anyone who thinks Crawford was culpable, but by then it should've been clear that Speight was playing with a hot hand he didn't actually have.  And out of what dire need?  Because UF had scored a whopping three points in the first quarter??

Then the two pick-sixes.  Speight had gone too far.

Neither of the above were deep balls.  Speight's problem wasn't that he thought he's Rex Grossman; more like 4th quarter John Elway.  Post-benching, some of his best throws were deep.  His pre-bench play reflected an overconfidence, a delusion that his play was at a level higher than it actually was.  Not "unleash the dragon" stuff; I mean, his reads and pocket awareness were excellent, but his risk assessments were way too aggressive for a low-scoring first half.  First pick-six, you don't need to ask your wideout to make a difficult catch, downside being an INT, when the other team's offense is going nowhere.  Second pick-six, the DE's coming loose, yes you can make a spectacular play if you rope a perfect throw but the team still didn't need that sort of courage under fire from him at that time.  It's the first half, Speight!  When Harbaugh pulled him I was more than in agreement.  Speight needed to cool off, and to his credit, he did.  IIRC there were more overthrows in the 2nd half but they were much safer.  He kept taking risks, but not in ways that would hurt the team if they didn't go perfectly.

dragonchild

September 5th, 2017 at 3:03 PM ^

Situationally I don't think that throw was a bad idea by itself; a pick would've likely been a touchback.  But it gave me the unsettling vibe of a heat check, and QBs shouldn't be making heat checks.  Premonitions aren't reliable things to go on so I ignored it and there's no credibility to be gained out of a premonition being correct.  But I re-watched it and in hindsight I understand why I got that vibe; I think it might've been better if he hadn't nailed that throw.  A terrible call wiped out the TD anyway, but it gave him the overconfidence that played a large part in gifting the opposition 14 points.

UM Fan from Sydney

September 5th, 2017 at 12:40 PM ^

WTF is that guy in the "McELWAIN OUT' clip talking about? "If we can't beat Michigam, who didn't play that well, who we gonna beat?"

LOL this team is good, dude in the audio clip. Clearly you bought all the crap the media was selling about this squad. All you heard was "returning only ten starters on defense" and "UM lost their top three receiving targets" etc.

JeepinBen

September 5th, 2017 at 12:43 PM ^

Michigan's offense didn't play THAT well. They looked good, not great. Harbaugh said so too. Change a couple field goals to TDs, tighten up about 3 mistakes and this is a 40+ point game.

(The defense on the other hand looked superb. I didn't realize Florida's offense only crossed the 50 twice, their first and last drives).

Michigan Arrogance

September 5th, 2017 at 3:32 PM ^

see, I'm much more encouraged by the offense than the D based on this game. That UF offense is BAD. Like, BCS average at best, in spite of the talent/recruiting. 

The D should be top 25, however, and based on the offense (and refs) leaving a lot of pts on the board, this was about as good as youg could reasonably expect out of this offense.

Squash34

September 5th, 2017 at 3:44 PM ^

My vibe was he had to be talking about the offense when he said that. But the offense played pretty good for a first game. They had over 425 total yards, which should not happen much to Florida this year. Although that stretch with back to back pick six's and a block punt was brutal along with that missed td to Crawford. So yeah, good but not great by any means. However, I still don't think the offensive preference could be described as "not playing good at all". And if he was talking over all... Then WOW!!! Defense and ST played very well.

Yo_Blue

September 5th, 2017 at 12:44 PM ^

LOL SEC...  They talked about the blindside hit in the endzone on Zaire.  Did they forget he was left handed and that Winovich came straight at his non-blind-side?  Lazy reporting, dudes!

bdneely4

September 5th, 2017 at 12:53 PM ^

Is what I took from week one with our team.  I am not sure if I have experienced this as a fan of Michigan for a long time if ever.  Even the confident Carr teams didn't have the look our guys had on Saturday.  I cannot wait to see how Harbaugh and staff continue to make this team better.

1VaBlue1

September 5th, 2017 at 1:48 PM ^

Swag.  swag = stuff we all get (usually found in the goody bags doled out at parties, etc)

Somehow, swag has mutated into a brief form of 'swagger' and now means something different from 'stuff we all get'.  Sort of like 'natty' has mutated into a short form of 'National Championship'.  

Now, start your post off with "Swagger and confidence...", and I'm right there with you!  I've only seen that much confidence and swagger in a Michigan team twice, that I can remember - 1985 and 1997.  And I don't really recall just how much swagger the '85 version had, because Bo.  And also bacause I was a year into the Navy and couldn't follow along as closely as I'd liked...

yossarians tree

September 5th, 2017 at 3:11 PM ^

I too am excited because these guys are being coached to believe they can maximize their potential and beat anyone. In my opinion the defense under Don Brown is already comparable to some of the best of Lloyd Carr and Bo and should ultimately go even higher because they have a very intricate, adaptable scheme and they are recruiting for speed.The offense is getting to what Harbaugh wants but the OL is not there yet, not even really close, and the QB play is very undependable. I am very excited to see this team when they are getting great play from the QB and OL. They are building a powerhouse.

UMForLife

September 5th, 2017 at 12:55 PM ^

Two teams under achieved in the last ten years on the offense with the kind of recruits they get-FL and LSU. Those two teams should be top 10 easily each year. It goes to show coaching matters quite a bit and need a Great offensive mind to succeed. I am glad we have Harbaugh and the kind of coordinators he is hiring.

Malum In Se

September 5th, 2017 at 12:57 PM ^

As a Lions fan, I recognized that INT.  It was a Joey Special:  high and behind a receiver on a crossing route.  Joey Harrington might have had many virtues but accurately throwing to a receiver running a crossing route was never among them.  

Maybe Crawford could have done more, but it is a really difficult catch.  I have seen the Joey Special wind up in the dirt or a defenders' hands a lot more than the WR coming down with a reception.  It is why I put more of the blame on WS, who scares me.  

Watched the game at a bar on Clearwater Beach with quite a few Gator fans.  The consensus among them was they expected a poor showing from their offense but expected more from their defense.  There was a sense at the half that their defense could lock in down in the 2nd half for a win.  Our opening drive in the 2nd half dispelled any notions of that.  The multiple third and long run conversions had them throwing there hands in the air and going "WTF."  Their frustration with their team made the 2nd half just that much more enjoyable.

Not one Gator fan I talked to had any love for McElwain.  They are already talking about who should replace him.

reshp1

September 5th, 2017 at 1:17 PM ^

He had a LB underneath he had to throw over though. Sure, more touch would've had the ball go over the LB and still hit the receiver shoulder height, but it's also a window that can close pretty quickly. You can't really fault him for zipping it in there. Speight hit a very similar throw against similar coverage later that Perry plucked that most consider a great throw. I didn't really see the two being that different other than the outcome.

Malum In Se

September 5th, 2017 at 1:36 PM ^

but I don't remember the throw to Perry being a crossing route.

Throwing late or behind a crossing route or any horizontial route is problematic.  Throwing it high and late/behind us increase the odds of something bad happening.  At least if the QB leads the WR with the throw, the WR isn't fighting his own momentum to make the catch.  As a 40 something Lions fan, I am well aquainted with poorly thrown horizontal routes.  This wasn't the worst one I've seen but I agree with Coach it was on WS.

reshp1

September 5th, 2017 at 2:07 PM ^

It wasn't a crossing route, I just meant there was bracket coverage on both that meant the ball had to be high and zipped into a tight window. Perry made the catch look routine, Crawford volleyball set the ball into the waiting arms of the deep safety. 

ijohnb

September 5th, 2017 at 1:06 PM ^

have doubts that it will look like a really quality win by the end of the season, but I think it probably did a lot for the team in several ways.  They got a win away from home to begin the season, they had to respond to startling adversity and did so really well, O'Korn got meaningful snaps and didn't freak out, the new look secondary got quite a few reps against a real team, they will get at least a marginal bump in the ranking which never hurts, and this propels them to three games they really should win before the buy week.  After Saturday, if nothing absurd happens, Michigan will likely be a Top 5 team by the time MSU comes to town.

patrickdolan

September 5th, 2017 at 1:09 PM ^

I don't want to see a 63 yard field goal. Or a twenty yarder, either.

I want touchdowns and leads so big you can pooch kick with confidence.

Still, if, at the end of the OSU game, it's tied and he nails up a 45 yarder, I'll be okay with it.

Hail Harbo

September 5th, 2017 at 1:18 PM ^

Florida is experiencing eight years of Al Borges?  Florida wishes it was experiencing eight years of Al Borges, at least then they would be scoring points.

In 2014 Florida averaged 30 points per game, after hiring Doug Nussmeier to be the OC, Florida has averaged 23 points per game in both 2015 and 2016.  If this sounds familiar it is because for the three years Borges was with Michigan, Michigan was averaging 31 points per game.  Then the savior of Michigan's offense arrives, Doug Nussmeier, and he completely reforms and invigorates the offense to an average of 20 points per game.

Saturday I watched the 2017 version of Michigan's defense playing the 2014 version of Michigan's offense.