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Unverified Voracity Won't Discipline Sheep

By Brian — September 18th, 2009 at 11:58 AM — 26 comments
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Hooray for automatic translations. Via BHGP:

michigansheep

Michigan State's, on the other hand, have been very naughty lambs. 

Personally, I am deeply affected by this. I am in favor of Michigan's just-approved basketball facilities in all ways except one:

practice-facility

That real estate is the home of my ancestral tailgate. Ah well. The plans look very nice, though, and should help the program steady itself as a respectable one (or better!). More at UM Hoops.

Yes yes yes maybe? 100 cocktails to Yostal, who gets a question in to Chris Brown at EDSBS and extracts a thousand or so words on Michigan from one of college football's most interesting bloggers—apparently Brown's article on Tressel was specifically mentioned by the man himself on a radio appearance! Yostal's question has to do with Michigan's attempt to shoehorn both Tate Forcier and Denard Robinson into useful roles on the field. Brown:

I think the winds are changing, and a two-quarterback system is quite possible. At its best you are likely to have the system Florida used to win the 2006 title: a starting quarterback in charge of most of the offense (Chris Leak), and a second guy with special abilities for whom a package is installed (then-freshman Tim Tebow). This example has now been made universal throughout football under the nauseatingly overused rubric, “the wildcat.” (Had “wildcat” been around in 2006 think of all of the puns Dan Shanoff could have used to describe how Meyer used his young talent.) The reason that works though is because you choose a starting quarterback for one set of skills (passing, reading the defense, making checks, accuracy, some athleticism, etc) but another guy opens up a new dimension because of their running ability, and the spread with a mobile guy gives the offense certain numerical advantages it doesn’t get with an immobile quarterback.

Read or die. /diddy.

Do we care about this? The Detroit News has an article about how a bunch of Michigan coaches have loans from the Bank of Ann Arbor, which is a potential conflict of interest for Bank of Ann Arbor founder Bill Martin:

"I don't suggest banks to any coach," he said. "I don't ever get involved in their financial affairs in any way, shape or form. I believe it would be a conflict of interest (to do so)."

But Martin also acknowledged that now that he is aware of the loans, it does create a conflict.

"Now that I know, I don't like it necessarily," he said. "When you don't know, you don't have a conflict."

This contradicts an earlier statement by Martin. Is this of interest to anyone other than the Bank of Ann Arbor corporate board? I'm thinking not so much.

The scene of the crime. Johnny Sears (Yes That Johnny Sears), now a senior, makes his return to Michigan Stadium tomorrow. Jokes aside, and there is plenty of material, it sounds like Sears has come a long way from the events that precipitated his dismissal:

“I was on the practice squad on my junior college. I didn’t even get to play. Sometimes by myself I thought like, ‘Is it worth it?’ but then I felt like, ‘OK I really want to play football.’ That’s my love. It’s my escape from things. This is what I love to do so I just wanted to make sure I could do that.”

And okay, yes, it is a little funny that Sears ended up on a JUCO's practice squad after starting The Horror. Funny in a sad clown way. When you're discussing the clunky end of the Carr era, "started sophomore DB who had never played varsity football before he got an offer and couldn't crack a JUCO 2-deep after he left because he seemed like the best option" should be somewhere on the list.

The spread is dead part XXVI. Excellent research by Team Speed Kills on Lane Kiffin's latest quote:

"The only time I really see [Florida] lose kids is because kids want to play in a pro-style offense," Kiffin said. "It’s such a great place to play, and they do such a good job of coaching. But you see some kids that don’t want to play in that system because a lot of times it hurts them going to the next level for their draft status."

This will be read as a tiny bit douchy by most and with white-hot rage by one Urban Meyer, and won't be much of an argument going forward:

  • Three spread offense receivers (Crabtree, Missouri's Jeremy Maclin, and Florida's Percy Harvin) were taken in the first round of last year's draft. The only tight end taken in the first round (Oklahoma State's Brandon Pettigrew) came from a spread offense.
  • Both Harvin and Louis Murphy, from Florida's very spread offense, started on opening day for their teams and both caught touchdown passes.
  • Sam Bradford was predicted to be a top ten pick had he come out last year and is the top quarterback prospect for 2010. He plays in a spread offense in Oklahoma.
  • The top two offensive lineman prospects for 2010 according to ESPN (Oklahoma State's Russell Okung and Oklahoma's Trent Williams) block in spread offenses.

It does not matter much what sort of offense you play in as far as the NFL goes.

Moose replace. David Moosman's out this weekend. The replacement derby:

Michigan right guard Dave Moosman suffered a dislocated shoulder against Notre Dame and may miss two weeks. Starting right tackle Mark Huyge moved to Moosman's spot and Perry Dorrestein filled in for Huyge at the end of last week's game. Michigan coach Rich Rodriguez is uncertain about this week's starting plans with Wauseon redshirt freshman Elliott Mealer one of three others being considered.

I'm hoping one of the redshirt freshman breaks through for the long term, but it sounds like it'll be someone more veteran. AA.com says junior John Ferrara is likely to be the guy.

KOVAAAAAAAAACS. A fair amount of attention has been paid to Jordan Kovacs this week, and why not? He's only an unrecruited walk-on who played much of the second half against Notre Dame and did not end up plastered on the bottom of Michael Floyd's foot. Kovacs actually had to try out twice because the first time he tried to sign up he had serious knee issues the athletic department didn't want to volunteer to fix. He got the surgery himself, tried out, made the team, and took a valuable lesson from the whole thing:

"I said I'm never going to come back to the training room," he said. "I'll have to be dying."

Er. Well. A lesson of some variety at least. The official site has their version of Kovacs' life story and a helpful reader forwarded along this article from a 1983 edition of the Toledo Blade that has an article on Lou Kovacs, Jordan's father and a walk-on himself. Bo on the elder Kovacs:

"Having an individual participate in our football program and then continue on is one of the most important aspects we have in this program at any coaching level, and having someone like Lou is even more gratifying because we like to have young men like him stay on in coaching."

That right there is black-belt level coachspeak.

Weis one-ups. This is the most quintessentially Charlie Weis sentence ever:

At fullback they have a versatile fullback who plays fullback in Hawken who plays fullback, but he moves around a lot, giving them a lot of the versatility along with the multiple tight ends they have because they do play three of them.

Bloated, meandering, repetitive, full of fail. A sentence or a life in coaching? Zing!

Etc.: Bacon's latest for Michigan Today has an extensive discussion of the 50 Yard Line club. Yes, that 50 Yard Line Club. "Lose yourself" hype video. Misopogon sees dead cornerbacks in Boubacar Cissoko.

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September 18th, 2009 at 12:04 PM | Oui! (Score:1)
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VIVE LE MOUFLON!

edit: Wait, how does Mouton translate as sheep?

redefining epic fail, one comment at a time

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September 18th, 2009 at 12:14 PM | Maybe it thought Mouton was (Score:1)
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Maybe it thought Mouton was Mutton

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September 18th, 2009 at 12:21 PM | google defines "mouton"... (Score:1)
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...as "meat from a mature domestic sheep."

hilarious.

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September 18th, 2009 at 4:08 PM | The translation is correct. (Score:1)
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The translation is correct. Mouton is "sheep." (A Mouflon is a bighorn sheep.)

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September 18th, 2009 at 12:13 PM | bank loans rubbish and so forth (Score:1)
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it's an irrelevant story. to wit: I once saw Steve Yzerman enjoy a Little Caesar's pizza...while on the payroll no less!!!

non-issue.

"Play hard and with great effort"

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September 18th, 2009 at 1:13 PM | Can one actually "enjoy" a (Score:1)
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Can one actually "enjoy" a Little Caesar's pizza?

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September 18th, 2009 at 2:19 PM | After a 12 pack. (Score:1)
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After a 12 pack.

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September 18th, 2009 at 12:13 PM | Calling something "diddy" is (Score:1)
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Calling something "diddy" is right up there in my lexicon with "Keep fucking that chicken." Just glorious.

or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.

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September 18th, 2009 at 1:32 PM | so you don't remember the (Score:1)
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so you don't remember the vote or die campaign then? am i missing something?

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September 18th, 2009 at 12:42 PM | Mouton is French for Sheep (Score:1)
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Apparently it was translating from French to English.

(edit: meant for poster below who asked how Mouton = sheep)

MGoBleu

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September 18th, 2009 at 12:47 PM | Conflict of Interst (Score:1)
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Wow the Freepress is now using it's Detroit News wing to go after Martin and R-Rod. What the .... I mean really is that the kind of story they should be focused on just after such a huge ND upset and going into a local matchup with Eastern.

Perhaps, Ron English also uses the Bank creating yet another conflict of interest when Martin threatens to pull his loan if there was an upset this weekend.

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September 18th, 2009 at 12:50 PM | Dude, you know you're going (Score:1)
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Dude, you know you're going to have a hundred creepy guys wondering through the parking lot looking for your tailgate now.

IMHE

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September 18th, 2009 at 12:57 PM | Wow... (Score:1)
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For the record, I totally forgot I even asked that question. But that was an awesome answer to a question I forgot I asked.

Craig Barker || The Hoover Street Rag || Twitter

"The Michigan fanbase: a cynical, Eeyorish bunch even in the best of times."

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September 18th, 2009 at 1:18 PM | Sucks about the tailgate (Score:1)
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I've walked by you quite a few times pre-game, I've never stopped to say hi, because I'm just not that creepy stalker guy.

not just "douchey" MGoBlog user, but now TRUSTED MGoBlog user

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September 18th, 2009 at 2:01 PM | So you just watched him from (Score:1)
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So you just watched him from afar? That's even creepier.

IMHE

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September 18th, 2009 at 7:36 PM | Um... yeah... about that... (Score:1)
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Um... yeah... about that... just recognize him in passing, and he's always in the same place. No creepy, I promise.

Also, good to see you brought the old avatar back, a classic that I considered stealing at one time.

not just "douchey" MGoBlog user, but now TRUSTED MGoBlog user

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September 18th, 2009 at 1:22 PM | Article on Tressel (Score:1)
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Great article on the demise of Tressel ball, but I do think it is a little early to make that statement.

I do take issue with the statement that Forcier is "No where near the talent that Pryor is". Pryor is clearly better at running, but what about the other factors that align to make up talent. Intelligence is probably the biggest differentiator and you only need to look to Pryor's comments about Michael Vick to gage his intelligence. I also, not enough evidence to compare, believe that Forcier is extremely accurate on the run. I don't watch enough of Pryor to know if he's better, but "no where near" seems like a stretch.

MGoBleu

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September 18th, 2009 at 1:26 PM | If my wife veto's the 50-yd (Score:1)
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If my wife veto's the 50-yd line club idea...is it OK to find someone that's with it as a substitute?

Go Blue!

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September 18th, 2009 at 1:30 PM | That's between you and your (Score:1)
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That's between you and your wife. Or perhaps not, but if it's not, it better never be.

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September 18th, 2009 at 1:57 PM | Kiffin (Score:1)
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is a walking, talking advertisement for "Don't let your mouth write checks your body can't cover." Urban Meyer is going to put the pedal to the metal for 60 minutes this Saturday. The over/under is 53 in that game; I expect Florida will score more than 53.

Taking it one week at a time

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September 18th, 2009 at 2:09 PM | A loan through the Bank of (Score:1)
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A loan through the Bank of Ann Arbor?
Seriously?
That's all you have got?

This isn't even a witch-hunt anymore. Its satire.
The witch-hunters are fast becoming caricatures in my mind.

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September 18th, 2009 at 7:38 PM | disagree completely on the sprad (Score:1)
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What about Graham Harrell and Chase Daniel? Alex Smith's cautionary tale is scaring teams off Tebow.

I think that the spread certainly does hurt players at certain positions when it comes to their NFL stock. There isn't enough data yet from the its recent popularity, but there could be an affect there over time.

What I don't understand is why Michigan fans are all that concerned about this anyway. Is Rich Rod going to have to sell the next Matt Barkley on the program? What matters first and foremost is winning games on the college level.

my (middling) Rutgers blog - http://www.onthebanks.com

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September 18th, 2009 at 10:44 PM | Good points all. (Score:1)
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Good points all.

not just "douchey" MGoBlog user, but now TRUSTED MGoBlog user

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September 19th, 2009 at 5:07 PM | Forcier vs Pryor: Development (Score:1)
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Pryor is a very good football player. He should have went to Michigan. He is playing in the wrong system now. Tressel's offense is holding him back. He is a cheetah pulling a mule's wagon. Pryor is going to the NFL, but will not play Drop Back QB. His skill set is not that of a drop back QB with a smattering of spread. He is a spread QB with a pinch of drop back. The fact that he thinks he is a great drop back QB is quite ridiculous! Tressel probably told him anything to get him to commit. He is talented, but he should play in the right system at the proper position to develop properly.

Tate Forcier is a heady, talented QB that is in the perfect system for him. His development will move along faster than Pryor's. Beside all that Rich Rodriguez is far better coach that The Vest. RR develops his players really well!!

"To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield" --Alfred Lord Tennyson/ John Sheridan B5

 

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