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Peppers Peppers Peppers Peppers. Nick Baumgardner about one of the pressing issues of The Game:

Paging Mr. Peppers
It's officially time to empty the tank. Michigan can't afford to save anyone's legs for a potential game next week, because, well, there may not be a game next week. And that means any type of Jabrill Peppers pitch count likely gets tossed out the window. Harbaugh dropped a little nugget in passing Monday about Peppers' ability as a running back, going so far to say he's going to have to think rather hard about how Michigan's multi-faceted athlete is best used on the roster. Maybe Harbaugh's actually talking about next season, or maybe he's planting another seed in Ohio State's head.

We had a caller on MGoRadio ask a similar question about Peppers's deployment. Neither Ace or I thought you could sacrifice him on defense in either the short or long term. In the short term, Michigan's about to face a team that has a heavy QB run game and will test the edge in various ways. In the long term, Peppers is going to figure out coverage and be an all-around terror.

But: I might be inclined to steal some snaps on D with Peppers out of the lineup if that meant he could get more action on offense. They've already offloaded kick returns to Jourdan Lewis with great success; I might be amenable to Peppers leaving on passing downs against OSU as Michigan plays Stribling/Clark/Lewis on the corner. Anything else and I think you have to have him in there.

HYPE VIDEO. This is A+ work here.

The Banner Incident. Can you imagine the reaction if this was to happen today?

It was on this day (November 24) in 1973 the Ohio State Buckeyes performed one of the most heinous acts in any rivalry, in any sport – they went after the sacred GO BLUE M CLUB SUPPORTS YOU banner.

If you aren’t aware of this, or have been living under a rock, I have created a YouTube Video that documents this act, one which legendary broadcaster Bob Ufer decried that the Buckeyes “will meet a dastardly fate here for that!”

The the Buckeyes returned in 1975 word was that Woody wanted to do it again, but this time the Michigan Students were ready.  The Buckeyes decided that discretion was the better part of valor, so no dastardly shenanigans ensued.

Twitter would roll over and die. Apparently they tried it again in 1977! We do have some spicy rival business of recent vintage thanks to Marcus Hall, so there's that. I appreciate OSU's willingness to come out and be dastardly before or during a game. Really adds something to the proceedings, unlike MSU's current student-taunting tradition.

An oral history of The Guarantee. Featuring this much more effective way to ice the kicker:

Frantz: In my mind, if I make that field goal, I'm the governor of Ohio. That's how big it would have been. When I was teaching myself to kick in the backyard, my father would literally say, "This is to win the Michigan game." I had no doubt in my mind that I wanted a chance to make the field goal.

I trotted out on the field, set my tee on the ground and looked at my holder, Scott Powell. Then I heard the referee blow his whistle for a timeout. It was a TV timeout, which meant it was an extended timeout. I looked around and saw a hundred thousand people and realized they were focused on me.

Just before the timeout was over, I looked over and saw Bo Schembechler about three-quarters of the way out on the field. He was screaming, "Frantz, you little s---, you're going to miss this kick!" He was going nuts, and his coaches were trying to hold him back. People ask me all the time if icing the kicker works. I tell them, "Well, in my case it did." It was a perfect snap and a perfect hold, but I hooked it a couple of feet left. There's no explanation and no excuse.

This is why I want to fight anyone who brings up whether a coach is "classy" or not. Hypocrisy, malfeasance, punting in plus territory: I'm listening. Whether a guy drops too many f-bombs or, in Woody's case, is constantly plotting ways to assassinate someone does not register.

Never has a mascot fight video been more accurate. I like the hat, too.

Who wins a Michigan-Ohio State mascot fight?

RIVALRY WEEK MASCOT FIGHT CLUB: Michigan Football vs. Ohio State Buckeyes

Posted by SB Nation on Monday, November 23, 2015

A man who remembers his promises. Posted to reddit, Jim Harbaugh gets a letter from a Michigan fan, Harbaugh asks her to meet for the PSU game, and kapow:

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It's not surprising, but it's a little surprising even so.

Exit Les. Les Miles is about to be out of a job at LSU:

Les Miles' tenure at LSU may be coming to an end, according to a highly ranked source involved with the decision-making process.

A decision on his future is likely to come in the very near future, with many Tiger Athletic Foundation (TAF) members ready to move on and start a new era in Baton Rouge. The $15 million-dollar buyout clause that is in Les Miles' contract is what many perceive as one of the bigger hang-ups in making a move.

However, TAF, the athletic program's booster club that funds a lot of the athletic programs for LSU, will not allow the buyout issue to thwart its plans, according to a high-ranking source.

Even before LSU's dispiriting loss to Ole Miss, their equivalent of a regent actually said to an actual newspaper actually on the record that if Miles won out "that complicates it." Now that he's lost one of them he's a dead man walking. At this point there are multiple independently-sourced reports from just about everyone that covers LSU; despite a 15 million dollar buyout Les's demise is imminent.

On the one hand, that's a quick trigger finger. Miles is just one year removed from a string of 10-win seasons. On the other, he went 8-5 last year and is currently 4-3 in the SEC. He is a CEO head coach who lost John Chavis. He's never hired an OC who has done much other than run a basic set of plays and waste prodigious WR talent. He's a Cooper-esque 2-7 against Saban. LSU fans assume they'll just sweep up most of the massive talent base LSU sits on no matter who the coach is. Miles is 62; things probably don't get better from here.

I'd can him if I was magically placed in charge of LSU, but I'd can just about anybody short of Harbaugh if I thought I could get Tom Herman.

None of this really impacts Michigan—I don't think M was even peripherally involved with anyone LSU is recruiting this year—but Miles will be an interesting name for a lot of mid-level schools. He'll be cheap for the same reason Jedd Fisch is cheap for Michigan this year (a big buyout), and he's got a long and mostly successful track record. While I think hiring him would be a bad idea, a lot of bad ideas are brought to life. Could he end up at, say, Illinois?

On the other hand, if LSU is actually targeting these guys… Names for the LSU job include the Usual Suspect and lolwut:

"Florida State head coach Jimbo Fisher is the main target for many foundation members; with names like Clemson head coach Dabo Swinney, TCU head coach Gary Patterson and even former NFL coach Jon Gruden being tossed around as well."

"Jimbo, Dabo: you have both proven that the winner of the FSU-Clemson game will easily be a playoff entrant should the rest of the season break correctly. You are paid exorbitantly well. But forget all that and play Alabama every year just to get out of your division. Sound good?

Hello?"

"Jimbo Fisher to LSU" is going to be this year's "Saban to Texas," a coaching rumor that will never do anything except line Jimmy Sexton's pockets.

Taco Charlton self-portrait. Via the Players' Tribune:

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I don't have anything clever to say. I just wanted you to see it.

This isn't a great way to do it. The Big Ten wants to reduce the age at which you can start college hockey without burning years of eligibility from 21 to 20, and they've taken the matter direct to the NCAA without even stopping by college hockey to check. The obvious reason why:

In a memo obtained by College Hockey News, college hockey coaches voted 49-11 in a straw poll against the legislation. That poll has no bearing on the NCAA vote, but it demonstrates the mindset of the college hockey community as a whole. The specific 11 to vote for it is unclear, though six are presumed to be the Big Ten coaches.

Everybody except the Big Ten and a smattering of bluebloods (dollars to donuts "yes" voters outside the Big Ten include North Dakota, BC, Notre Dame, and BU) hates the idea. The rest of that article is everyone arguing self-interested positions that are obvious.

The Big Ten's hope is that by taking it direct to the NCAA the larger body will look at an outlying sport and try to bring it closer to the line all other sports take. With the league looking like hot butt—just one program, Michigan, is even on the NCAA bubble a third of the way through the season—this looks like an attempt to not be hot butt that doesn't involve firing the various terrible coaches in the league.

Special demerit to NMU head coach Walt Kyle for this take:

"A lot of these schools right now, and I'm not naming names, are doing everything in their power to push the scales in their favor," Northern Michigan coach Walt Kyle said. "A lot of these guys should be embarrassed. They want NCAA (tournament) games on home campus sites. Why is that?"

Because neutral sites have been a financial and public relations disaster that holds back all of college hockey. Because single-elimination playoff hockey is inherently ridiculous and even more so when it's been played in an empty AHL building. It's unclear why Kyle even cares about this at all since he's managed to acquire one tourney bid in the thirteen years he's been head coach.

This isn't a good look by the Big Ten but if Kyle's opinion is representative it's the main reason college hockey has the worst playoff in sports. In that case, all these guys can get bent.

Happily ever after. I think it all worked out for the best, really.

Everyone ended up where they should be.

Doubtful. MSU will try to get Ed Davis a sixth year, which will require some proof that Davis was legitimately injured as a freshman. Survey says not likely since he was the scout team player of the week twice:

2011 SEASON: Redshirted . . . named Scout Team Defensive Player of the Week vs. Minnesota . . . selected Scout Team Special Teams Player of the Week vs. Central Michigan.

Coaches try but the NCAA is usually pretty strict in these departments. Michigan is apparently going to try to get a redshirt for Mario Ojemudia, but I very much doubt that will come off either.

Etc.: Spencer on deceased rugby force of nature Jonah Lomu is worth your time. Not looking so hot at Penn State right now. Jake Rudock is Jarrod Wilson? Basketball will  change its starting lineup, no doubt starting at the five. Charlie Strong is about two-thirds of the way down the RichRod road. Steve Everitt's bandana.

Comments

My name ... is Tim

November 24th, 2015 at 1:42 PM ^

FYI, there are also "Fill In the (Blank)" interviews (articles?) for Drake Johnson, Tom Strobel and Desmond Morgan on the Players' Tribune. They can be accessed via link at the bottom of Taco's.

Highlights: Tom Strobel loves the song The Safety Dance and Desmond Morgan hates Targeting.

Chitown Kev

November 24th, 2015 at 1:46 PM ^

I cannot see him at Illinois...now, if it's a "love of the game" issue as opposed to money, I could see Les at Syracuse...they have a young team that's been at least competitive...no grass in the CarrierDome, though

A State Fan

November 24th, 2015 at 1:54 PM ^

The difference between Davis and Mario is that Davis never actually played in a game that year, while Mario has played in a few games every season.

But the Minnesota week he was scout team potw for was like game 9. It comes down to what MSU says he was injured with and how much the NCAA looks at practice participation. My guess is they don't look at that at all, so if MSU can prove his freshman year he had an injury, then he should be good.

I assume they do some good investigation on this (a HUGE assumption with the NCAA), but it seems like this is a process that can really be exploited.

 

edit: spacing.

Smidgens

November 24th, 2015 at 2:14 PM ^

Wait what am I missing about the Davis situation? He redshirted in 2011, played in 2012, 2013, 2014, was injured for 2015. Why wouldn't he get a medical redshirt for 2015 and be eligible for 2016? Why would him playing on the scout team matter in 2011, aren't you allowed to play on scout teams while redshirting? Why does it matter if he was "legitimately injured" or not in 2011?


EDIT: Ahh, I just read you can only miss 2 years if they were both due to injury.

Chaz_Smash

November 24th, 2015 at 1:53 PM ^

I watched the live action Grinch movie with Jim Carrey once on a plane. At one point, the Grinch gets riled up and shouts, "The audacity...the unmitigated gall..."

Since then, I've wondered if the Grinch was actually quoting Ufer or if Ufer was quoting someone else during the '73 Banner Takedown. Anyone know?

 

M-Dog

November 24th, 2015 at 2:00 PM ^

Holy shit, who is the sandy-colored hair guy in the Michigan letterman jacket laying some licks on Ohio State players?

He looks big, like an ex-player.  He stood toe-to-toe with Buckeye players in full helmets and pads.

The man is s hero.  He deserves some medals.  The sign stayed up, like the Star Spangled Banner at Fort Mchenry.

M-Dog

November 24th, 2015 at 2:38 PM ^

Thanks, that answers the question:

Not only was it (Dave) Gallagher, former Michigan teammates Doug Troszak and Tom Drake also donned their M Jackets to thwart Woody and company one more time.

And it looks like he did get a medal for it of sorts:

“At the end of the year, the Michigan Football team held a players-only banquet and I was the only non-player invited to the event. The 1977 team gave me a plaque commemorating my involvement in defending the banner that year.”

 

Danwillhor

November 24th, 2015 at 3:45 PM ^

How have I not seen this?!? So gangster. This goes so hard (lol)! We need to get back to this, man. When osu/msu come to AA we need to quit this "nice guy" BS. We need to goon it up. I'm tired of seeing entire groups of UM fans get punked by 2 drunk osu/msu fans. Yet, we just stand around as they come in our house and act like they own it. Tired of it. 2 games a year, every other year, we need to be GOONS!

alum96

November 24th, 2015 at 2:59 PM ^

Everyone wants Spurrier on game day...les would rock it. I also think les would get a better job than Illinois if he stays in coaching. Illinois in theory could be msu of the west division in the right hands but at 62 those are not the hands.

Ty Butterfield

November 24th, 2015 at 3:26 PM ^

Is Taco Charlton Groot? I approve. Also, Peppers needs to be on the field for every damn play. Michigan needs this game.

Danwillhor

November 24th, 2015 at 3:13 PM ^

1) Coaches Behavior - This also kills me. Their job is to win games and any decent things they can accomplish beyond that are pure bonus. There are some real pieces of shit out there but they're pieces of shit PEOPLE that happen to be coaches. I can dislike but not really knock a HC that does something a bit unsavory to yield the best team possible. I only really care when it seems like a vendetta to truly harm players and/or alter their future by way of bogus medicals. I'd say the things I hate the most are blatant cheating (or obvious and intentional hear, speak, see no evil regarding it) and terrible recruiting practices. It's one thing to tell a kid to start looking around or the like but when a kid has a committed offer pulled near or on signing day, that's just evil. It's selfish and evil. What doesn't bother me AT ALL is when a HC is insanely competitive in a way that's not "PC" now but completely accepted as little as 20-30 years ago (more the further you go back). What cracks me up is when people ignore the fact that Bo was a principled man but a complete lunatic on the competitive front. Bo had literally THREATENED HARM (lol) upon recruits for simply hearing that they were maybe not going to UM anymore! Rick Leach (was Leach IIRC and paraphrasing the story) was committed but took a visit out to one of the Arizona schools. He came back in love. He told his father about the weather, girls, etc. He likely skipped the party talk but I'm sure his father understood. So, dad calls Bo and that's when it gets hilarious because Leach is happily laying down in his room that same day when the door flies open and Bo storms in without warning! Bo is fuming. Bo asks no questions but looks him dead in the eye and says "So, you want to go to Arizona/ASU? Ok. Ok. Well, let me tell you something: You'll go there and you'll play early because they don't have a QB. I'll make we play them and I won't take my 1st team defense off the field until you get carted off! Score be damned. I'll tell my boys that they're in a world of hurt if you make it through that game healthy. 11 All-Americans coming after YOU all game and I'll play you every year if I can! Have fun out there!" and then Bo left. What Leach didn't know is that the dad was in on it and he received a wink from Bo as he stormed past him to leave. Leach took all of 24 hours to apologize to Bo and reassure him he was going to Michigan (lol). That is just one story of a million about a guy that was a maniac when it came to football. Yet, he was not a cheater! Refused to cheat to get players, win, etc. He won fair but acted in a way that was NOTHING like most people portray these days. I'm all for tough love and even a bit of borderline callous behavior in the name of competition from a HC in sports. Call me crazy. I'm early 30s but even I grew up in football/wrestling with coaches that would break their back for you but also break your back to make you better. What was said on the field or in that sweatbox tin shed we called a practice room in wrestling was ONLY FOR THOSE PLACES AND STAYED THERE. Some made you angry but that was the point and no grudges were held beyond that day. There is evil behavior from evil human beings that happen to coach sports and there is a camaraderie among decent men and their players that allows for competitive behavior that borders on abuse but is completely ok. It is! You either understand it or don't but it is completely ok in those contexts. Sadly, the latter is now impossible or unspoken as modern PC society won't tolerate it. Heck, most players don't tolerate it anymore. Players these days are bound to quit, transfer or secretly record you to cause a media frenzy if you so much as allude to them not being the bestest thing that ever tried to be the best at anything ever. Parents: Your 13 yr old kid's HC yelled at them? Boo hoo! LET THEM DEAL WITH IT! Stop thinking it's personal until it blatantly is! I mean BLATANTLY! It's likely just your parental instincts making you think they "have it out" for your kid. People are just soft now, IMO. So much so that we rewrite history. It's nuts. Guys, Bo could be a raging asshole. It's ok. Accept it. 2) Fuck Dave Brandon. 3) Strong is out at Texas or should just go because they'll just fire him 3 games into 2016 if he stays. 4) The Taco self portrait looks just like him in a scary way for a 20 second scribble (lol).

gustave ferbert

November 24th, 2015 at 4:26 PM ^

Miles might be a good fit at Colorado?  

 

I pay zero attention to their situation out there.  So i dont' know what their coaching situation is like except that I know they are bad. 

M-Dog

November 24th, 2015 at 4:45 PM ^

Bo on Jim Harbaugh:  Jack (Harbaugh) was one of my assistants in the '70s. Even then, his son was a devil, running on the field when he shouldn't, playing with his friends. One time he did that, I screamed "Get that kid out of here, now!" I think he was 10 years old. So, for the record, that is the youngest I ever yelled at one of my quarterbacks.
 
John Falk:  After Jim's dad left for Stanford, I asked Bo, "Have you heard about Jim Harbaugh going to Miami, Ohio, to play?" Bo said: "Listen here, Falk. Jim Harbaugh is coming to Michigan. He just doesn't know it yet."