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Attrition incoming. Harbaugh minced no words in the press conference after the Citrus Bowl:

Michigan no doubt has a very good idea of who those guys are already and is recruiting to match. Rivals has a rundown of the general situation that lists a number of names, most of them obvious.

Potential fifth years who have not seen the field much are not likely to return. That's a group that includes Terry Richardson, Blake Bars, Tom Strobel and maybe Allen Gant. Drake Johnson was a maybe due to playing time, something I'd also heard, but now looks set to come back. Matt Godin is mentioned as a possibility, but that seems far-fetched since he saw a ton of snaps this year. He's not a great fit as a DT, but move him to a plugger DE spot and he can be useful taking on tight ends on the like.

Rivals also suggests that a current offensive line starter might move on, which sounds absolutely ridiculous. Even if a guy might get beat out that guy would almost certainly be your #6, and asking that guy to transfer is not something any program is likely to do. File that under "motivational ploy" or "drunken telephone".

Aside from the fifth year guys, space will come from a couple places. One are Michigan's specialists. We currently count them against the cap but their situation is probably more fluid than that since I assume a couple of them are on "you get the first available slot in fall" kind of deals. Those slots are near-certain to open up by fall; I don't know if Michigan has to account for them on Signing Day.

Then there are plain old transfers. Derrick Green disappeared in the second half of the season and didn't make the bowl trip; I have heard that he is very likely to transfer. You have to figure that players passed by freshmen are going to be inclined to look around. There are few WR/DB types that applies to, and then at least one quarterback is going to look at the guys around him and say NOOOPE. It sounds like Harbaugh is already aware of who those guys are.

Ty Isaac doesn't seem like one of them. With virtually zero playing time after a couple of mid-year fumbles Isaac would be a guy to keep an eye on even though he's already lost a year of eligibility by departing USC. But Isaac says he's going to stay and scrap:

"I didn't play as well as I needed to, and I obviously had some things come up," Isaac said last week in Orlando. "But I still feel the same way. Anything the coaches want me to do I'll do, and I want to do.

"It didn't go my way, but the team overall's had a successful year and I'm happy to be a part of that."

I'd heard that he was very prominent in practices late, but that clearly did not translate into enough trust to put him on the field. He'll work on rebuilding that this offseason.

Early entries. It's departure season, as the deadline to declare for the NFL draft is the 15th. Michigan seems to be getting everyone other than maybe Willie Henry back; others have not been so fortunate:

  • Penn State: QB Christian Hackenberg and DT Austin Johnson have declared. Neither is much of a surprise.
  • Indiana: RB Jordan Howard declared, and Michigan fans quietly high-fived. So did DT Darius Latham, who was their most talented defender.
  • Nebraska: DT Maliek Collins declared. Michigan doesn't play Nebraska next year.
  • Maryland: DE Yannick Ngakoue declared.
  • Rutgers: LB Steve Longa is gone, but Seth will still draft him anyway next year.
  • Ohio State: DE Joey Bosa, RB Ezekiel Elliott, S Tyvis Powell, QB Cardale Jones, WR Michael Thomas, CB Eli Apple and LB Darron Lee have all declared. S Vonn Bell is widely expected to go as well.

Iowa is getting CB Desmond King back, so that's good for them. Everyone else of note is out.

Ratings! I don't care about ratings. A lot of people seem very mad that the playoff semifinals dropped a third of their viewership after moving to New Year's Eve. I don't care that much about other people setting money on fire, but yeah it was bad:

Per Sports Business Journal's Jon Ourand, overnight numbers for the Oklahoma-Clemson Orange Bowl and Alabama-Michigan State Cotton Bowl were 9.7 and 9.9, respectively (about 15.6 million viewers for the Orange Bowl and about 18.6 million for the Cotton, per Sports Illustrated's Richard Deitsch).

Last year's Rose and Sugar semis got 15.5 and 15.3 (about 28 million viewers apiece, per The Washington Post).

That's more than a third fewer viewers for the sport's biggest games of the year.

Two games that didn't exactly come down to the wire—MSU-Alabama was particularly uncompetitive—didn't help. The idea that college football would change the country's New Year's Eve paradigm was massive hubris, but this is an organization that kept Bill Hancock as their main mouthpiece even after they'd decided everything that came out of his mouth for a decade was complete bollocks. Hubris should be expected.

Let's see what Bill Hancock has to say now, I bet it's reasonable and logic—

"That decline, frankly, is not much of a surprise and it's modest."

Hancock's business card reads "will lie but seem respectable for money."

Wisconsin down one Dave Aranda. LSU hires him away for a reported 1.3 million a year. That is bad for Wisconsin, which seems to be clearly handicapped by their administration at this point. Gary Andersen fled to one of the worst jobs in the Pac-12 rather than stick around; Bo Ryan retired midseason to spite people who would not give the job to his primary assistant; they lose their DC and Barry Alvarez cries poverty afterward.

I'm sure they'll maintain competitiveness but it feels like their golden age is coming to an end here.

Mone ready to go. Bryan Mone tells Scout he's completely recovered from his injury and raring to go:

"I used (the injury) as motivation to be honest with you," Mone said. "Just motivation. Watching the guys practice and play got me excited to work out and not only that but in the classroom, too... I feel pretty good body-wise. I was at 330 when I got hurt, I'm at 309 now. My expectations are just to get better with my technique football-wise."

He also says "everybody is coming back," which predated reports about Willie Henry exploring his options but is still an enouraging sign for how he thinks that decision will go.

Partridge on departing. DJ Durkin made a run at Chris Partridge after he was hired at Maryland, but Partridge decided to stay. It sounds like that's not a short-term decision:

“My future is whatever Jim Harbaugh thinks my future is,” said Partridge, with his mother, Bonnie, and father, Rick, nearby. “My number will be called and I know that, and for now I’m trying to be the best in the country in whatever role my team needs me, whatever I’m asked to do. My loyalty is with Jim Harbaugh — who I consider the best coach in the country — and my heart is with the University of Michigan. I’m just part of a team trying to do my part to help us win Big Ten and national championships.”

Partridge coached linebackers in the bowl game and is probably in line for a full assistant spot in the relatively near future, possibly when Mattison retires.

Etc.: Get The Picture on the epidemic of QB transfers. Harbaugh gonna Harbaugh. Citrus Bowl widely watched despite blowout. Holdin' The Rope on said blowout. Things that predict future shooting performance. Jake Rudock on his final year. The evolution of Michigan football.

Fitz Toussaint will start for the Steelers in the playoffs. /throws dart at Fred Jackson picture

Comments

MC5-95

January 5th, 2016 at 4:47 PM ^

With four or five mid round or higher NFL picks coming back for their last year at UM (Lewis, Wormley, Butt, Chesson, maybe Henry), and every other B1G team losing multiple guys in similar situations, I wonder what this says to potential recruits. Does it say--as we would all want it to--that Harbaugh is #1 awesome, and they should all come play for him, or do recruits just get impressed by the idea of so many OSU under classmen heading to the pros, whether or not they are fleeing Columbus and Meyer.   

San Diego Mick

January 5th, 2016 at 4:45 PM ^

how the roster shakes out with whom will be departing or not, but damn next year looks like it's gonna be oodles of fun.

I think O'Korn will be a really solid QB, he has been with the program all season and will have the spring to solidify his standing, my money is on him.

getsome

January 5th, 2016 at 7:22 PM ^

off the top of my head - the QB and OGs, the chef raekwon (pretty sure he started approx half the games like barrett), maybe a S, that might be it.   all the early entries plus the guys already on pro rosters = just further proof of that squads talent, they finished that season with pros at almost all spots.

it might take a half or full season and they might not reach quite that level again (where 3 QBs on roster can all dominate opponents and run that O without much drop off or where all 5 OL and 4 DL end up playing sunday) but osu will reload as always and meyer will field competitive squads.

heres hoping harbaughs machine, once fully operational, matches meyers in production / rings and nfl talent

East German Judge

January 5th, 2016 at 4:51 PM ^

Barry Alvarez will run Wiscy football into the ground - pun intended.  His constant poverty claims are so meaningless, as if he wanted to keep those assistants at Wiscy that could be done very easily.  One easy way is raise the price of season ticket by $2 each.  80,000 cap. x $2 x 7 home games is over $1.1 million.

robpollard

January 6th, 2016 at 9:59 AM ^

First, full-credit to UW-Madison accountants -- I have a finance background and their summaries indicate, but don't make clear, if they get state funding or not. It appears that they do not (though this USA Today summary indicates the opposite, so I'm not 100% sure)

However...

At the direction of Gov Scott Walker, UW-Madison, as a whole, has undergone budget cuts that are much greater than many systems in the nation (e.g,. more than UM, MSU or OSU). As such, every department -- from academic  to athletic --- has had to update their budget to either cut or "contribute" more to the University to meet the overall cuts.

For example, their LS&A equivalent had to suffer a $7.4 mil/year cut; Publich health a $3.3 mil/year cut; and "The UW Athletic Department will pitch in $7 million over two years to help the UW-Madison campus absorb its share of state funding cuts." It appears UW Athletics was not generating excess funds (unlike say, OSU, which kicks off cash on the regular), so this is a meaningful deal; they don't just have a few million lying around.

So while it seems like some real ineptitude going on at UW, their academic department also has budget pressures that the B1G big boys (OSU; MSU; UM) do not.

http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/writers/pat_schneider/uw-madison-academic-units-to-cut-million-under-scott-walker/article_670db072-8a68-5202-87ac-5abc76cb968c.html
 

Jgruss42

January 5th, 2016 at 5:27 PM ^

I did a super scientific run down of some random B1G sports and SEC sports, just to check Barry's math.

Total varisty sports:
Florida - 19
UGA - 19
Ole Miss - 16
BAMA - 15
Tenn - 14

Wisc - 23
Illinois - 19
Indy - 22

Univeristy of Michigan - 27

So, Barry pays for more sports than the SEC. But he only has four more sports than UGA or Florida. He's in charge of the budget. If he chooses to pay asistants less, he must feel that the have less value than money spent on other things. However, it's not 'Wiscy is poor', it's simply Barry's choice.

I agree with your idea that modestly increasing revenue could fill that gap pretty easily. Hell, he could get SPONSORS for the positions:

Culver's Frozen Custard Presents UW Linebacker's Coach
Don Ameche QB coach
Kohler's Defensive Coordinator
Joan Cusack's Women's Gymnastics Recruiting Coordinator

The possibilities are endless.

(Yes, I Google'd for UW alums)

 

MGoBlue00

January 5th, 2016 at 4:57 PM ^

I thought it had been clearly established on the message board that listing specific names of transfers/5th year guys not coming back were strictly prohbited? Wise up, man!

ak47

January 5th, 2016 at 5:10 PM ^

I do want to point out that signing guys and planning for them to not get scholarhips until the fall because of guys getting pushed off the team in spring ball is oversigning.  There is plenty of mental gymnastics you can do to say its not as bad as other places but if at the end of signing day you have more commits then spots you over signed by definition.

Rabbit21

January 5th, 2016 at 5:37 PM ^

True...........but...........

You may know exactly how many fifth years you are planning on inviting back, you may also know exactly how many guys have said they are planning on transferring once the season is over, you probably even know how many specialist scholarships are on the year to year deal that Brian described.  

The difference between definiton and intent is vast and sparkly.

Yard Dog

January 6th, 2016 at 8:22 AM ^

Lots of schools flex in and out of those. Can probably pick up one there by itself.  Also agree that attrition will play a huge role, it's just part of reshaping the roster.  I don't believe Harbaugh is running anyone off, their still getting an education, just moving on from football.  Most of these guys are going pro anyway, so it's time to move along.

Mr Miggle

January 6th, 2016 at 8:38 AM ^

to leave, but you don't fill their spots in recruiting to avoid the appearance of oversigning? Incompetence is the first word that comes to mind. The Big Ten doesn't allow oversigning, so they are required to show where those places in the class are coming from. I think that by definition, that is not oversigning. Your description does not fit the reality of the situation. Those players that sign LOIs are never on scholarship until the summer of fall in any case.

 

ak47

January 6th, 2016 at 9:41 AM ^

Well if you can show where they are coming from its not an issue, but if the answer is not giving a specialist a scholarship for a year I find that pretty shady.  This blog has often argued for 4 year gauranteed scholarships.  I know at least Maryland already does it.  You might have a kid who expects a scholarship every year getting told they won't get one next year but probably will the year after.  Thats putting a kid in a really bad situation.  It might not violate any rules but that doesn't mean I have to like it.

Mr Miggle

January 6th, 2016 at 10:14 AM ^

scholarships. Michigan started giving them out before the league mandated it. The people speculating about specialist scholarships being different don't know what they are talking about, imo.

Kenny Allen isn't guaranteed a scholarship for next season since he started as a walkon, not just because he'll be a fifth year player. His spot can be allocated to someone else, then awarded back to him after attrition according to the rules. That's how walkons are typically treated to give some extra flexibility. I'll be happy to bet that when all is said and done, we'll be under, not at 85 scholarships and we'll have room for potential grad year transfers.

Hail Harbo

January 6th, 2016 at 11:09 AM ^

Is that a walkon can work his tail off for the team, work himself into the starting lineup or rotation and is maybe rewarded with a year only scholarship while a highly sought HS player can come to school fat dumb and happy, follow team rules, and stay four guaranteed years without seriously risking injury or health.

Another problem I have is the 5th year invitation but from this perspective.  Player A comes in and immediately sees the field as a freshman.  If he continues to play well and stay healthy, hopefully he did well enough to graduate in four years because all he gets is four years.  Player B, comes in at the same time as player A but the coaches believe he needs to sit a year to gain strength and weight.  If Player B acquits himself well enough he is allowed to return for a 5th year.  So fine, both players, A and B, have four years of playing time but player B may well get a fifth FREE year for academics.  My solution, reward Player A with a scholarship for a fifth academic year.

funkywolve

January 5th, 2016 at 5:45 PM ^

when you look at Brian's previous post regarding who is in what class, you realize that with 92 bodies (not counting recruits who haven't committed) and only 85 scholarships, there will probably be some attrition that no one is expecting.  The 5th yr seniors are the obvious ones cause they should have their degree, and it's a simple handshake but I have no doubt there will be some interesting discussions on the blog about who is leaving when it's all said and done.

Hail Harbo

January 5th, 2016 at 5:39 PM ^

Ty Isaac returning for 2016 is really his choice alone as he'll be a RS Junior.  Granted, if he chooses to stay, he'll need to prove himself worthy of a following 5th year should he desire one.

Bones032

January 5th, 2016 at 5:49 PM ^

I'm still worried about Drake Johnson leaving. After the game he said part of why he played so well in the bowl game was because his knee feels alot better in the warm weather. Well guess where he won't get to play in warm weather again? I am not sure anyone would blame a guy who blew his Acl twice for going to a team down south to continue his career. I know he's a local kid, lifelong UM fan, but if his future shot at the NFL would be majorly increased by playing in warm weather, he might have to do it.