Home
TAKE IT LIKE A MAN

Primary links

  • About
    • $upport (lol)
    • Ethics
    • FAQ
    • Privacy Policy
  • Contact
  • BlogPoll
    • Join
    • Blogpoll Editorial Guy @ CBS
    • Votes By Blog
    • Votes By Team
    • Voting Philosophy
    • Links For Voters
  • MGoStore
  • MGoBoard
  • Useful Stuff
    • 2011 Recruiting Board
    • 2010 Recruiting Board
    • Crude Bug Tracking System
    • Depth Chart By Class
    • MGoBoard FAQ
    • Third Down Stats
    • Diaries, Windows Live Writer, And You
Home

User login

  • Create new account
  • Request new password

MGoElsewhere

  • Brian @ TSB
  • Brian @ Bucknuts
  • Hail To The Victors 2009
  • Facebook profile
  • MGoKindle Store
  • @MGoBlog (Twitter)
  • mgo.licio.us
  • RSS Feed
  • Brian @ AOL [Archive]

sportsbook

Michigan Blogs

  • Big House Blog
  • Bo Schemblogger
  • Brice's Recruiting
  • Genuinely Sarcastic
  • Go Blue Michigan Wolverine
  • In Rod We Trust
  • MGoBlue Football
  • MGoFootball
  • MVictors
  • Maize 'n' Blue Nation
  • Maize 'n' Brew
  • Maize And Go Blue
  • Michigan Football Recruiting
  • Michigan Football Saturdays
  • Michigan Hockey Net
  • Michigan Sports Center
  • Ron Bellamy's Underachieving All Stars
  • Spawn of M Zone
  • The Blog That Yost Built
  • The Game
  • The Hoover Street Rag
  • The Wolverine Blog
  • UMGoBlog
  • UMHoops
  • UMTailgate
  • Varsity Blue
  • Wolverine Liberation Army

M On The Net

  • mgovideo
  • MGoBlue.com
  • Mike DeSimone
  • Recruiting Planet
  • The Wolverine
  • Go Blue Wolverine
  • Winged Helmet
  • UMGoBlue.com
  • MaizeRage.org
  • Puckhead
  • The M Den
  • True Blue Fan Forum

Big Ten Blogs

  • Illinois
    • Illinitalk
    • Illini Basketball Fans
    • Illinois Baseball Report
    • Illinois Loyalty
  • Indiana
    • Inside The Hall
    • The Hoosier Report
    • Behind The Plate
    • Cannot Falter
  • Iowa
    • Black Heart, Gold Pants
  • Michigan State
    • The Only Colors
  • Minnesota
    • GopherHole.com
    • The Daily Gopher
    • Buck Bravo
    • TNABACG
  • Northwestern
    • Lake The Posts
  • Notre Dame
    • ND Choo Choo
    • The House Rock Built
    • The Blue-Gray Sky
  • Ohio State
    • We Will Always Have Tempe
    • Buckeye Commentary
    • Eleven Warriors
    • Jim Tressel's Head
    • Men of the Scarlet and Gray
    • Our Honor Defend
    • The Buckeye Nine
  • Penn State
    • Black Shoe Diaries
    • Happy Valley Hardball
    • Penn State Clips
    • Linebacker U
    • Nittany White Out
  • Purdue
    • Boiled Sports
    • Hammer and Rails
  • Wisconsin
    • Bruce Ciskie

Links of Note

  • Baseball
    • Big Ten Hardball
    • College Baseball Today
    • The Baseball Zealot
    • The College Baseball Blog
  • Basketball
    • Ken Pomeroy
    • Basketball Prospectus
    • Midmajority
  • College Hockey
    • Chris Heisenberg
    • College Hockey Stats
    • Inside College Hockey
    • Michigan College Hockey
    • Hockey's Future
    • Sioux Sports
    • USCHO
    • Western College Hockey
    • CCHA
      • LSSU Hockey
      • Bronco Hockey Blog
  • Football
    • Every Day Should Be Saturday
    • Doctor Saturday
    • CFB Stats
    • Harold Stassen
    • NCAA D-I Stats Page
    • The Wizard Of Odds
  • General
    • Sports Central
  • Local Interest
    • The Ann Arbor Chronicle
    • Arborwiki
    • Arbor Update
    • Teeter Talk
    • Vacuum
  • Teams Of The D
    • Lions
      • Pride of Detroit
      • Fire Millen
    • Pistons
      • Detroit Bad Boys
      • Need4Sheed
    • Tigers
      • Roar Of The Tigers
      • The Detroit Tigers Weblog
      • The Daily Fungo
    • Red Wings
      • On The Wings
      • Behind The Jersey
      • Winging It In Motown
    • Michigan Sports Forum

Archive

  • March 2010 (38)
  • February 2010 (70)
  • January 2010 (76)
  • December 2009 (63)
  • November 2009 (96)
  • October 2009 (107)
  • September 2009 (132)
  • August 2009 (94)
  • July 2009 (56)
  • June 2009 (42)
  •  
  • 1 of 7
  • ››

Get Yer Tickets

Visit Sports-Gambling.com, your online Gambling Sports site for live Super Bowl Odds , NFL Odds, College Football Bowls games odds and much more!

Expert Sports Handicappers

Click here to check out some of the best online casino sites & US casinos online!

CFB Betting Odds

Get free Michigan Wolverine college football predictions and NCAA basketball picks.

For the best football picks and online football betting information visit BangTheBook.com

Get great Michigan college football tickets for an amazing price from OnlineSeats. We have every team and every sport, including Tigers tickets.



Sports Betting Lines: Betting on All Sports: Real sports betting action. Try LinesMaker.com for free sports betting lines updated in real time. Massive free sports bets and cash bonuses for new members. Sign up for free!

Sports Betting Lines: Preview all sports betting lines and odds at LinesMaker! We have live betting odds and lines for all sports events. It doesn't get any better than this: Sportsbetting3.com offers the best college football betting and pro football NFL betting. Like casino games? Discover the best online casinos at the top casino site, Plazacasinos.com

Check out the Penn State preview. Get free College Football Picks from the National Sports Advisors.

Get free College basketball Picks and basketball odds at Doc's Sports.

Have a fantasy league? You can find quality Trophies for every sport at Lamb Awards.

Fooball Betting from Bet Vega.

TheSeats.com has tickets for all your NCAA football favorites like the Michigan Wolverines, Nebraska Cornhuskers, Wisconsin Badgers, Rose Bowl tickets and many more!

Beveled Guilt

Site Search

Diaries

  • New
  • Popular
  • Hot
  • Another uninformed Dorsey/Ann Arbor.com comment
    bronxblue - 1 day ago
  • The New Michigan Era Has Just Begun....
    MidnightBlue - 1 day ago
  • Big Ten Recruiting Class Rankings 3-15
    Tim - 2 days ago
  • Lax: Weekend Wrapup... AND MORE!
    Tim - 2 days ago
  • Chris Rock - Post Visit Update
    TomVH - 3 days ago
  •  
  • 1 of 325
  • ››
more
  • Another uninformed Dorsey/Ann Arbor.com comment
    bronxblue - 5,089 views
  • Chris Rock - Post Visit Update
    TomVH - 4,795 views
  • The New Michigan Era Has Just Begun....
    MidnightBlue - 3,521 views
  • Big Ten Recruiting Class Rankings 3-15
    Tim - 2,767 views
  • Lax: Weekend Wrapup... AND MORE!
    Tim - 1,681 views
  •  
  • 1 of 2
  • ››
more
  • Poll:Favorite Michigan Football Road Uniform
    steve sharik - 71 comments
  • Another uninformed Dorsey/Ann Arbor.com comment
    bronxblue - 62 comments
  • UConn, last year and this year
    chunkums - 50 comments
  • Lax: Weekend Wrapup... AND MORE!
    Tim - 40 comments
  • Chris Rock - Post Visit Update
    TomVH - 33 comments
  •  
  • 1 of 3
  • ››
more

MGoBoard

  • New
  • Recent
  • Hot
  • Tom
  • OT - South Park season 14 premiere- TIger Woods
    2 replies
  • Twitter users - help me test my NCAA bracket app
    0 replies
  • Question re: watching Michigan football abroad
    1 replies
  • Oh snap! Chad Henne says Tebow isn't an NFL QB.
    4 replies
  • Michigan wide receivers videos (Wolverine Historian)
    0 replies
  • The standards of tyduffy have slipped markedly
    7 replies
  • 135,000 miles O.T.
    21 replies
  • OT- Funniest Show on T.V.
    16 replies
  • Urban Meyer's Leave of Absence Over
    15 replies
  • Michigan Pro Day Results
    19 replies
  •  
  • 1 of 27
  • ››
  • OT - South Park season 14 premiere- TIger Woods
    2 replies
  • The standards of tyduffy have slipped markedly
    7 replies
  • Old Michigan Mascot Logo
    27 replies
  • Question re: watching Michigan football abroad
    1 replies
  • Michigan Pro Day Results
    19 replies
  • 135,000 miles O.T.
    21 replies
  • Twitter users - help me test my NCAA bracket app
    0 replies
  • OT: Plane kills jogger...and we think our luck is bad.
    15 replies
  • Oh snap! Chad Henne says Tebow isn't an NFL QB.
    4 replies
  • Way OT - Norovirus
    25 replies
  •  
  • 1 of 27
  • ››
  • Michigan Hating God
    186 replies
  • stop freaking out about the buzzer beater loss, please
    143 replies
  • OT: Absolute Favorite Bottled Beer?
    141 replies
  • GAME TIME BABY
    111 replies
  • OT Your Favorite songs from musicals?
    104 replies
  •  
  • 1 of 54
  • ››
  • "And thanks Demar, I'll see you here shortly. No need to bring your crowbar."
    76 replies
  • Nike Indoor Nationals (Track) - Delonte Hollowell
    9 replies
  • Night of Champions: Who made the trip?
    3 replies

mgo.licio.us

Football betting

If you're looking for online football betting, look no further! Party Bets is safe, fast and secure.

NCAA basketball odds

Get live NCAA basketball odds from multiple sportsbooks at OddsShark.com

Unverified Voracity Surveys

By Brian — January 14th, 2009 at 4:15 PM — 18 comments
Filed under:
  • basketball
  • rick reilly
  • tempo-freeeeeeee

Site note: A UMHoops/MGoBlog joint CIL is tentatively on for tonight's Illinois game. Tip is at 8:30, game is on BTN, CIL gets going about 15-30 minutes before.

Correction: Dennis Franklin wore #9, not #6 as claimed yesterday, in case you were looking for him in the afro-tastic team picture.

Survey results. The survey hit its maximum very quickly; results can be seen here (for most questions) and here (for the open-ended "what do you hate" question). General impressions:

  • Mobile MGoBlog was the big winner in the "new feature" category and will be implemented ASAP. Better integration with MGoVideo was also popular. A unified ticket search came in third.
  • About 50% are registered (FYI: even if you aren't interested in posting, logged in users can customize how they see the blog. You can turn some blocks on and off, change the way comments appear, etc.)
  • About 10% of people who tried to register never get a response. (If this happens to you, email me.)
  • Most people read the board and diaries, with about half participating on the message board and a small number posting diaries, which is about right, IMO.
  • Page speed was mostly "good."
  • People seem to think the level of self-policing in the comments is about right, but they'd like to see better organization of the user-produced content.
  • Advertising is at a tolerable level.

Sorry if you got locked out; I dislike Wufoo's pricing schemes. (I don't want to sign up for something monthly and have to cancel, but I'd pay ten bucks to have a single unlimited survey.)

Clone wars. UMHoops digs out some Kenpom stats and compares this year's basketball team to the 2005 West Virginia team that introduced the world to Gansey and Pittsnogle, et al. The key chart:

mich-wvu-comparison

The offenses are eerily similar and can quickly be compared: Michigan doesn't shoot as well—though they're not bad—but values the ball more than anyone else in the country; they don't get offensive rebounds or free throws, as they are an extreme POT, which you can see by the percentage of three pointers chucked skyward.

Defensively it's a bit tougher. Michigan looks superior in just about every number up there except turnover percentage, but WVU's defense went up against a lot of good offenses. Michigan not so much.

One thing I did find interesting: Michigan isn't actually that bad on the defensive boards: 33.8 is just about the national average. That's still not good, as an average power conference team with 60+% of its schedule to date against mid- and low-majors should have above-average rebounding. I feel like that sentence was very confusing, but am at a loss to fix it. Rephrase: Michigan's probably a poor defensive rebounding team but not a disastrous one.

A side note: there's been some discussion of Kenpom's grim forecast for Michigan—8-10 in conference and 18-13 overall before the Iowa game, now up to 9-9 and 19-12—and what this says and etc. While I think the Kenpom ratings are worth looking at, keep in mind that they can't account for the absence of Laval Lucas-Perry—currently the team's most efficient offensive player—for about 60% of the season. That's probably worth a game or two (or three!) in Kenpom's projections.

Dylan has an array of interesting observations as well; check his post out.

Elsewhere. The Wall Street Journal takes note of the Big Ten's basketball revival, and does so with heavy deployment of tempo-free statistics.

Is it just me or have mainstream basketball writers taken to advanced stats much more quickly than writers covering any other sport? Baseball writers often take pride in their ignorance. Football broadcasts still propose that 3=7 whenever they mention redzone efficiency. Advanced hockey stats aren't yet important enough to sneer at. Basketball guys, on the other hand, took one look at Kenpom and said "hey, that makes sense." Wonder why that is.

Etc.: Rick Reilly declares beer pong the "next great American pastime," causing reader Jeremy Hekhuis to ask "if reilly is calling something the next great pastime, hasn't its time come and gone?" and causing me to respond "yes."

  • Login or register to post comments
  • ShareThis

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.
Posted on: January 14th, 2009 at 9:55 PM #1
Other Andrew
Other Andrew's picture
Joined: 2008-06-30
Points: 109
Offline
Survey Skewness

I think your sample is plenty big (opening it up to more people wouldn't change the results much at all), but as others have said, it probably skews more towards the people who make comments and generate diaries. Not so much because the survey filled up quickly, but because I would imagine they're at least twice as likely to bother to click over and completed it in the first place. Of course, coupled with other analytics, you can probably figure out the proper factor to shift survey results if you're interested.

Road Games is another blog

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: January 14th, 2009 at 7:36 PM #2
spartansweblog
spartansweblog's picture
Joined: 2008-09-09
Points: 0
Offline
"Basketball guys, on the

"Basketball guys, on the other hand, took one look at Kenpom and said "hey, that makes sense." Wonder why that is."

I think part of it is simply that tempo-free basketball stats are more elegant/intuitive than advanced stats in other sports. It takes quite a bit of effort to figure out what WARP and DVOA are. Points per possession is pretty much self-explanatory (as are all of the "four factors" stats).

www.spartansweblog.com
A statistical look at Michigan State basketball--with a dash of football talk.

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: January 14th, 2009 at 7:05 PM #3
SJUblue
Joined: 2008-07-01
Points: 338
Offline
Beer Pong

In my experience, Flip Cup has replaced Beer Pong as the best drinking party game. Several reasons.
1. My parents know what beer pong is and that's uncool.
2. Flip Cup can have almost unlimited players at once, not just four.
3. More active. You have to chug a beer in Flip Cup, not drink slowly before the next shot is hit. Also, you know when both teams in Beer Pong can't hit the last shot and everyone watches pissed off? Doesn't happen in Flip Cup.

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: January 14th, 2009 at 6:46 PM #4
Engin77
Joined: 2008-07-02
Points: 4493
Offline
re: correction

#9 is, indeed, Dennis Franklin
#6 is Dave Brown

They were roomates in Gomberg House, S Quad freshman year.

One of these clouds must have a Maize and Blue lining ...

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: January 14th, 2009 at 6:11 PM #5
chitownblue (not verified)
#50 on Things You Hate:

#50 on Things You Hate: "Dex".

You, anonymous survey filler-outer, made me LOL.

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: January 14th, 2009 at 10:41 PM #6
dex
dex's picture
Joined: 2008-06-30
Points: 2681
Offline
:(

Why do you laugh at my tears?

great and omniscient Grand Poobah of the WLA

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: January 14th, 2009 at 6:07 PM #7
trout_mask
trout_mask's picture
Joined: 2008-06-30
Points: 39
Offline
Mobile

2 cheers for the impending "Mobile MGoBlog"!

"Oh, but the strawberries will never taste so good again and the thighs of women have lost their clutch!" - John Steinbeck

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: January 14th, 2009 at 6:36 PM #8
Sgt. Wolverine
Sgt. Wolverine's picture
Joined: 2008-06-30
Points: 3721
Offline
They should be mobile cheers

They should be mobile cheers -- otherwise they'll take a long time to load on my device.

sgtwolverine.com

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: January 14th, 2009 at 5:13 PM #9
J. Lichty
J. Lichty's picture
Joined: 2008-06-30
Points: 899
Offline
undefeated drea . .

drea - I hope you are not serious about being frozen out by "more loyal readers" than yourself apparently.

I am sure that Brian will read your brilliant suggestions of how he can generate more traffic which you apparently did not get to share in the poll.

Perhaps Brian could run another poll - How can we get drea to become a more loyal reader. Maybe a free haircut by four at coach and four. Oh, I know, how about a secret password for drea to be able to participate in polls that are monopolized by loyal readers.

I am equally excited to learn about your ideas for generating more traffic. Maybe a free triple blimpie burger with egg for every new reader you direct to Mgoblog. Perhaps a Hopson cam, or how about a way for you to feature posts of readers not bothering to read the mgoboard before asking TomVH for any news about a recruit when he just provided news about that recruit like 15 minutes ago.

Dying to hear your suggestions.

We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now. - Bruce Coslet

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: January 15th, 2009 at 12:25 AM #10
Undefeated drea...
Undefeated dream season of 1992's picture
Joined: 2008-09-17
Points: 782
Offline
You are my density

Lichty, you're dripping with sarcasm. And drool.

I was only pointing out that having a survey that's open for less than an hour isn't the best way to get a random sample of users. I don't know what Brian wants for the site; hell, it's his site to do what he pleases with.

The only risk of basing too many decisions off the survey he ran is that he may make the site more appealing to those who are already diehard users of the site, while possibly not helping to generate new traffic to the site or to increase readership among those who check MGoBlog maybe once a day or so.

Wanting something to be true does not make it true.

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: January 14th, 2009 at 5:28 PM #11
downst
Joined: 2008-06-30
Points: 62
Offline
He may have simply been

He may have simply been making an observation. One that makes a bit of sense. You may have overreacted.

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: January 14th, 2009 at 7:41 PM #12
Ernis
Ernis's picture
Joined: 2008-09-23
Points: 3738
Offline
It is entirely possible that

It is entirely possible that he may have been making an observation about the generalizability of the survey results. If true, it is entirely possible that Lichty overreacted, indeed. These are all possibilities. Then again, we must consider the possibility that Undefeated Drea was, in fact, offering a slew of suggestions for Brian in how to run the site. How, oh how, shall we ever deduce which to be true?

That's right, Dude. 100% certain.

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: January 14th, 2009 at 5:00 PM #13
wolverinekeith
Joined: 2008-06-30
Points: 31
Offline
Seriously, Brian - is there

Seriously, Brian - is there anyway to allow users to just stay logged in until I choose to log out (or my cookies delete...but that's up to my browser). I mean, I have Scout & Rivals memberships and even they let me stay logged in.

Thanks.

Chicago, IL

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: January 14th, 2009 at 5:06 PM #14
Farnn
Joined: 2008-07-07
Points: 583
Offline
I've never had a problem

I've never had a problem staying logged in.

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: January 14th, 2009 at 4:47 PM #15
Undefeated drea...
Undefeated dream season of 1992's picture
Joined: 2008-09-17
Points: 782
Offline
Good point. The survey is

Good point. The survey is probably representative of MGoBlog's most active, loyal users -- because they were the ones most likely to see the link and respond. So the results are good for appealing to those who are already heavy users of MGoBlog.

But the results may not be so useful on how to get more readers in general, or to build loyalty and participation among semi-serious MGoBlog readers.

Wanting something to be true does not make it true.

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: January 14th, 2009 at 4:58 PM #16
downst
Joined: 2008-06-30
Points: 62
Offline
I've always thought of myself

I've always thought of myself as the former.

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: January 14th, 2009 at 4:34 PM #17
downst
Joined: 2008-06-30
Points: 62
Offline
If the survey filled fast...

are you sure you got a fair, representative sample?

I only bring this up because I'm bitter that I didn't get to participate.

  • Login or register to post comments
Posted on: January 14th, 2009 at 4:47 PM #18
GCS
GCS's picture
Joined: 2008-06-30
Points: 889
Offline
Are you proposing that we

Are you proposing that we have unmoderated surveys?

  • Login or register to post comments
Powered by Drupal, an open source content management system
Theme provided by Roopletheme; sidebars adapted from Chris Murphy.