"The amount of professionalism that he has ... there's probably not another guy in the country that would have handled it the same way," Durkin said. "He's not only one of the best coaches in the country, he's one of the best people. He absolutely has the respect of everyone -- coaches and players, alike."
"I don’t care if Jim Harbaugh is medically insane (he is), if you run the coach out of town who took your team from absolute embarrassing garbage-pail irrelevance to conference-dominating powerhouse in ZERO YEARS, you are not only stupid, you don’t care about winning."
"We were a team that started out 2-5 and we came out of the first weekend of conference play at 11-11. Just like everybody else we had a number of injuries that we weren’t able to overcome. But I was really proud of how the team was able to stay focused, work hard, believed, kept fighting, no quit and finished strong."
You know it's good photoshop when you're futilely scanning for the LSUFreek watermark. Mustaches for Michigan provides, and explains:
My ally is the Mustache, and a powerful ally it is. Life creates it, makes it grow. Its energy surrounds us and binds us. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter. You must feel the Mustache around you; here, between you, me, the tree, the rock, the football, everywhere, yes.
The power of the mustache was powerful enough to offset the long-established MGoLiveblog curse, mmm.
I think this was on "Automatic For The People." Terrelle Pryor on Michael Vick, who Pryor paid tribute to on his eyeblack—hey, it's either that or John 3:16:
That's right: "everybody murders.":
Not everybody is a perfect person in the world. Everyone kills people, murder people, steals from you, steals from me, whatever.
Who loves the fact that this blog's already got a "terrelle pryor has emotional problems" tag? This guy.
Excellent. The New York bowl game I've been advocating is a possibility, albeit a down-the-line one:
The Tribune has learned Big Ten officials have met with Yankee Stadium representatives to discuss a bowl game that would be played at the so-called "House that George Built."
"It's an interesting concept," Big Ten Associate Commissioner Mark Rudner said. "It's compelling."
Hypothetical New York Bowl is not an immediate possibility, but if it gets established it sounds like the Big Ten will give it a serious look in 2014, the next time contracts come up for renewal. By that time Florida fatigue may have set in and an attractive, if cold, destination like New York should be appealing.
Fans saw a winning product again and were entertained before the game and during breaks in it with piped in music such as AC/DC’s “Hell’s Bells,” and Neil Diamond’s “Sweet Caroline.”
“We need to liven this place up,” Martin said. “When the band is taking a break, I think the music helps the atmosphere. There were about 25 songs on the playlist, I listened to every one and cut about five.”
Ugh. Band members: do you need breaks? Could you have played Sweet Caroline, thus transforming banal minor-league hockey atmosphere into authentic college football atmosphere? Are you happy or irate at the piped in music?
The music was terrible. It is not necessary. People with half a brain know that these songs are played out or are a staple of some other venue, see Fenway. The songs do nothing for anyone who is not a drunk undergrad female wearing maize and blue stockings and texting on their Blackberry during the game (the entire row of girls behind me). Please do away with it Sailboat, please.
I heard the piped-in songs included : "Welcome to the Jungle", "Don't Stop Believin" and some AC/DC? I was in the band 03-06, and we played the first two songs and "You Shook me All Night Long" within those years, so I know we have the music for it, among much other music.
No, the band doesn't really need breaks. Whether they could have quite the in-stands library available that a CD does is a good question, as MMB memorizes everything, and also if the whole stadium could hear the piped-in music, that's an advantage over the MMB until they figure out a way to mic the band.
Also, I live in Boston now. Sweet Caroline is lame, even here, but I'm ok with it... at Fenway only. Anywhere else it's really lame.
Yeah, I can't help but feel that at the very least they could have checked for songs that the band has in its repertoire, especially when they elected to play "Don't Stop Believin'", which we played in 2005 (I think?). I remember that as being one song that really connected well with the student section and had everyone singing along. At thye bare minimum, don't pump in songs the band still has in the folder.
As for needing breaks, no, they don't. Maybe an occasional break from playing Parking Lot Victors, but that's up to the director. They just finished marching and playing for 9 hours a day, I think the added adrenaline from (finally!) being able to perform at the game can keep them going. It did in my day.
Let me preface by saying that the piped in music sucks balls. However, if it is inevitable, is anyone else more than a little aghast that Bill Martin is the one making final selections on the playlist? Oh God. Oh Jesus. Oh God and Baby Jesus.
I wasn't there, but I was watching on TV and the atmosphere seemed louder, more raucous than usual. From what I could tell, that had nothing to do with the piped-in music. I've heard it elsewhere (some SEC venues) and don't like it. I don't think it's necessary.
Also, to avoid any confusion, it might be worthwhile to make it abundantly clear to the Athletic Department that this anti-piped-in-music position is not in any way a point of agreement with the anti-fun fossils of the Big House. I (we?) want deafening noise and a fired-up, intimidating crowd, in a traditional college football atmosphere that includes a very good band, not a cheesy "I Heart the '80s" sing-along.
First time in at least five years we heard any music (other than from an opposing team's band, mind you) in my section.
And, it did help keep people into the game during the long tedious timeouts. Folks, we cant hear the band and it is a good thing to have good music to listen to to keep your pulse going during long tv timeouts.
Now, the selection of the music in another thing. The Diamond and Journery were gimmickiy sing a-alongs. I could do without that. The AC DC worked for me, even though its probably played everywhere. Hopefully somebody with a music clue is eventually picking the rotation. If not, it will get old fast for folks like me who could really give a rats ass or not.
You know what was lame? Thriller. And the third quarter pick a song tradition. Why? Because wide swaths of the stadium can barely hear it. After a few seconds, folks where I sit realized there is no point in paying attention and started talking amongst ourselves. I liked the rock music, it was something different. Since i cant hear the band, I prefer that to silence.
Either way, its not an issue for me. I'm sure by Game 3, I'll be tired of the Big House DJs spinning Welcome To The Jungle every other break. But, it was nice to have a little music for a change. And I hardly think this is a cultural affront to college football or marching bands. Or that it somehow is beneath the vintage Michigan Stadium.
Just remember, the Cubs have won zero titles playing at Wrigley Field.
Let's remember the larger point: RAWK MUSIC is acceptable because you can't hear the band. "It's better than nothing, which is what we have now," everyone says. The band can change this by playing considerably louder, but its director does not think this is necessary or even a problem.
I'm curious to how complacent the MMB staff (MMB director Scott Boerma and director of bands Prof. Michael Haithcock) have in this. Do they care? I hope so, but they don't even acknowledge that the band sounds too quiet these days.
Change is going to have to come from the bottom up, not from Sailboat Bill. The markedly different attitudes between Nix and Boerma about the MMB's role in gameday probably helped the RAWK MUSIC happen.
The old tradition of eating a pizza the night before a game just isn't doing the trombone section any good. They need lean protein, chocolate milk, and daily sessions on Barwis Beach with instruments in hand.
Occasional excess is necessary to remedy the deadening effects of moderation.
Second, I was upset with the piped-in RAWK because it oftentimes took up the longer time-outs we would use to play other things. Instead we were stuck with breaks between plays, where we are limited to short stuff like Let's Go Blue, Iron Man, or C-1, which soon gets repeated ad nauseum. Trust me, we'd like to play Hoover Street, Black Dog/Kashmir, and Livin on a Prayer more often, we just don't have time.
And no, Boerma and Haithcock do not believe there is a problem with volume. They are of the opinion that much of the complaining stems from the recent failings of the team, and a general discontentment among the fans (which IMO may have some truth to it). I do think they could harp on it at times, especially to remind the newer members. It's easy to forget to play loud when you are worried about getting the notes right (as well as everything to do with marching when on the field).
I am curious as to the perceived loudness across the stadium. I had thought the structure across from us would trap and reflect something down to the south end. But that doesn't seem to be case from the accounts here. Did no one notice any difference?
Another current MMB member. The piped in music, as I understand it from band leadership, was a decision made by the Athletic Department after visiting other Big Ten stadiums. Therefore, you should contact the AD directly with complaints about this if you want it to go away. The band, unfortunately, cannot really tell Rich Rod/Bill Martin/whoever else is responsible to go suck it. As Rorschach mentioned, Rich Rod and the inherent speediness of the spread have a lot more to do with this than one might first expect.
Boerma is slowly starting to get more focused on volume and less on pure musicality this season, as opposed to the previous three seasons, so hopefully that will have an impact soon.
You have to remember that the band is very directional. Meaning, acoustically its impossible for the band to play to each and every person throughout the stadium. Also, you have you to remember that 110,000 people absorb ALOT of sound. As the season continues we will have time to play all the "other" favorites: Livin' On A Prayer, Don't Stop Believin', Black Dog/Kashmir, etc.
"I am curious as to the perceived loudness across the stadium. I had thought the structure across from us would trap and reflect something down to the south end. But that doesn't seem to be case from the accounts here. Did no one notice any difference?"
I've been to six or seven home games now over ten years, including one other time in almost the exact same seats as Saturday, and this was the first time I've ever noticed NOT hearing the band loud and clear. The echoes/delay made it difficult to sing along with the Victors pregame, but during the game it didn't seem to be a problem.
I'm an engineer, but not a construction one, and I too guessed that the new structures would echo more than the air that preceded them. Other techies' opinions?
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A buddy and I have been on a mission to see every MLB stadium, and we've hit most of them.
At many of these stops, we've heard from old-school home fans that:
"Sweet Caroline" has become a regularly piped song at their stadium over the last five years or so.
This development is almost universally described by longtime fans as "annoying."
A pattern is emerging: major sport venues around the country have realized that "Sweet Caroline" is one of the few songs that fans know and can interact with, and fanbases around the country, oblivious to the ubiquity of it, are nonetheless already feeling the YMCA-ness of it.
To me, and this semi-vocal minority I keep seeking out running into, this is a sign of evil spreading its way to previous havens from evil.
To my father, however, it's an opportunity to sing a song he knows without anyone cringing at his atonal singing voice that is nigh unlistenable once you get past anti-War jingles and campfire diddies like "Where I'm Bound." FWIW, if they played YMCA, I'm pretty sure he'd make the arm gestures, too.
My father is your typical sporting event patron. If you play the National Anthem, he'll sing it. If you play "Take me out to the Ballgame," he'll sing it. If you play "God Bless America" instead, he'll sing that. If you pipe in "Sweet Caroline," he knows where to go "bah bah bah" and will do so when the opportunity presents. Caring about this is not on his list of things that matter (like supporting Rodriguez, or hog futures).
Brian, I have witnessed the battle of TRVE v. Pop Taste before. On a Metal (or college football team, or mustache) blog, you may have a chance, but I hope you don't expect populist outrage to carry this day. The other option, of course, is to try to kick it upstairs, and pray Bill Martin has some grumbly old-guy in him. But again, don't be too surprised if he looks at you like some teenager trying to explain why his CDs are lame and yours SHRED.
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I have yet to hear anyone complain in real life. I've talked to a number of students, and everyone really seems to like it. It gives us something to do during the tv timeouts. And for all that people are complaining about Sweet Caroline and everything being overdone... people certainly seem to enjoy it, and that should be what matters here. I mean, everyone around me was singing and dancing during Sweet Caroline. It's great that it gets people pumped.
As a side note, I'm about 15 seats away from the band, and they're still too quiet at that distance except for when they turn directly towards my section.
I loved the fact that Michigan Stadium did not have any piped-in music and the band was the only source. I've been to PSU and OSU, and both have the majority of their music piped-in which detracts from the college atmosphere, IMO. I did not want Michigan Stadium to become this. But being in the student section spoiled me since I could always hear the band clearly, and I am sympathetic to those section that cannot hear the band. So now I'm up for a few piped-in songs, but only during the longest TV timeouts.
As for the music selections themselves, I did not mind Thunderstruck and Welcome to the Jungle, but do not want to hear Sweet Caroline ever again. Really, it only belongs at Fenway. And can't the band play Don't Stop Believing? Thinking of this, can't we just play pre-recorded songs from the band? It might sound unauthentic, but there are years of songs and many different genres to choose from.
If you fear the incrementalism of tradition slowly giving way to hollow pop commercialism; take solace in the fact that there was, and presumably always will be, censorship by an unaccountable bureaucrat...
I was not at the game and did realize until now that they had started with the music. Personally I think it is sad and would prefer the band or nothing, but whatever. I assume it was not so loud as to preclude normal conversation? I have been in pro venues where you could not hear the person sitting next to you.
Not a big fan of the karaoke feature in Michigan Stadium. The use of "Don't Stop Believin'" was kind of laughable. I was expecting them to play "Open Arms" in the 4th. Great opener but the piped in music made me think I was at a Lugnuts game.
I normally sit in Section 16 Row 68 which is in the South West Corner. This past game I got to sit in section 24 Row 7 which isn't too far away from the band. I was excited because I thought I would be able to hear the band again since they were 3 sections over. Not even the case I couldn't hear the Michigan band at all but i definitely had no problem hearing the WMU band. I always like hearing the band but if I am never going to be able to hear the Michigan band except for pre-game and halftime then I am all for piped in music but only during TV Timeouts. I enjoyed all the music they played this past weekend with the exception of Sweet Caroline. I enjoy Sweet Caroline but just at the right time and place and that was neither.
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I thought the piped-in music was meh. Guns and Roses/ACDC was fine but the small traditionalist part of me cried on the inside when Sweet Caroline was played.
I am suprised more people aren't posting their happiness about the major change that occurred (granted Brian had already posted about it). Switching from Pepsi to Coke more than offsets the piped-in music in terms of overall stadium changes.
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"Band members: do you need breaks? Could you have played Sweet Caroline, thus transforming banal minor-league hockey atmosphere into authentic college football atmosphere? Are you happy or irate at the piped in music?"
This piped in RAWK crap is a direct result of the terrible location that the AD has placed the band in the Stadium. The current location of the Band has basically removed that aspect of the Stadium experience. The AD created a musical void in the Stadium and is now trying to fill it with crap. PLEASE STOP.
Also, some acoustical work will need to be done with the PA system. With the reflective nature of the east side structure, its very difficult to discern what is being said over the PA system.
I think the music is fine. The band is hard to hear (and IMO much more so since they moved the band to the student section). The atmosphere has been steadily declining for a while (the ridiculous "you suck" part of the song after 3rd down stops, not to mention the fact that somehow the "stop the chop" movement from the 99 or 2000 actually took hold.
It seems pretty universal that people can't hear the band - is this just due to the architecture of the stadium, or are bands at other schools just situated in better locations? Perhaps in an endzone they would be more audible?
I found the piped-in music embarrassing. So minor-league, so cliche, so Penn State. Brian is correct. Two other points:
--I think the Silent Band Phenomenon could be solved by new placement OR by having them periodically turn in different directions. These horns are 19th-century technology, extremely directional. So change directions! They know the songs; have a grad student "conduct" as they face South for one song, toward the student section for the next, etc. I was on the 50, press box side (nice shade!) and heard the Western band loud and clear all game long. Because they were facing me.
--The crappy rock music reached its nadir early when the pre-game excitement was allowed to fizzle out while the music was piped in ... and nothing happened for 30 seconds or so ... and we sat there ... and the sucky artificial music continued ... and finally the team appeared at the tunnel entrance and 109,000 voices quickly drowned out that tinny crap. I might be convinced to allow it during the interminable TV timeouts, but at the absolute pinnacle of heart-pounding anticipation? Hideously inappropriate.