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By Brian — April 7th, 2009 at 2:53 PM — 34 comments
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Event! Okay. It has been proposed that there should be an MGoBlog tailgate before the spring game. I am amenable, and Varsity Blue is also onboard. The current, extremely tenuous plan is to meet at 9 AM by the bus stop outside of Crisler. I fear that some guy will show up with emo hair and talk like people in Idiocracy speak and he will be set upon and eaten, but that's the chance you take.

I have no idea if this plan is feasible or not. At every previous spring game ever, it obviously would be because there would be no one else there but there's a chance people might be enthused this year or something and space might be limited. Also we need, like, food equipment beer etc. There is an official organization thread. Hopefully in a couple days it will come to some sort of consensus and I'll post final details later in the week.

I bet this is going to be a fiasco.

Riot? No, not so much. Though the East Lansing Riot Tracker ticked over to "maybe" last night, the Daily was on the scene and uncovered this scene tragically dissimilar to Children Of Men:

east-lansing-riot-no

(Chris Dzombak from the Daily)

Dammit, Western. You've failed me for the last time. I don't know what's more surprising: friendliness between riot cops and State students or a girl at State who doesn't bleach her hair in an effort to look like a sad Midwestern version of a UCLA student.

Elsewhere in Michigan State getting housed, Orson obliterates the annoying "this will save Michigan" meme.

Name partisanry part two. Yesterday I pimped Barkevious Mingo in the Name of the Year competition several times. This is right and just. But a reader points out that we have another rooting interest: Iris Macadandang. Ms. Macadangdang is the #1 seed in the Crotchtangle regional and a recent alum. (An unusual one, too. How many people are involved with the College Republicans and Amnesty International?) She's in the sweet 16, where she is currently trailing Dr. Shasta Kielbasa.

Vote for Iris. Shasta Kielbasa is only around because of the "Dr." in front of her name and that's a title, not a proper part of the name.

(If you were wondering: yes, this section is a dense thicket of squiggly red underlines.)

And never mind. Yesterday I mentioned you shouldn't panic about the Free Press (non) story about potential Harris/Sims departures. Today the Free Press agrees… mostly:

Manny Harris is sticking to his story. Michigan's star wing has no current plans to leave Michigan this spring, following his sophomore season. But that doesn't mean he's totally ignored his future, either.

"It's an option, but not really that serious though," Harris said Monday regarding the buzz about him exploring his NBA options. "If it's something to look into, then I will, but I haven't even thought about it much. I doubt I'm going."

Okay, still not particularly worried and he should be back. Snyder does mention that Sims can put his name in and withdraw it without consequences since he's a junior. There's no reason for him not to, so he might apply, go to the draft camps and such, and withdraw.

He lurks. In the days of Gittleson there was a group of Michigan fans with thick necks and GNC memberships dedicated to the proposition that all men trained under Git were, well, gits. Or at least more git-like than they would otherwise be. One of their favorite talking points was that only two programs in the country used the machine-heavy High Intensity Training: Michigan and obviously archaic Penn State.

So where did Gittleson scuttle off to after departing Michigan? Touch The Banner, a Michigan football blog run by a high school coach—gsimmons get your gun—has the answer:

[PSU] Strength coach John Thomas brought a graduate assistant and some weight equipment into Holuba Hall. They did a session of manual resistance training, in which the GA did various exercises while Thomas used his strength and body weight to work him to failure. For example, the GA did pushups while Thomas pushed down on his back; the kid looked like he hated him for it.

The funny thing was that Thomas mentioned four or five times that he had learned some of these techniques "from a guy who's probably going to hate me saying his name, and that's Mike Gittleson." He looked over toward the opposite corner from me, as if Gittleson were over there somewhere. Of course, most of the coaches at the clinic were from Pennsylvania, Virginia, New York, and New Jersey, so I don't know if anyone else recognized the name. But I immediately started looking for someone who might be Gittleson. I couldn't find him initially, but I eventually saw him. I spoke to him for a minute about resistance training, but I didn't mention anything about Michigan, since I thought that might bring up bad memories. Interestingly enough, when I got home and Googled John Duncan, one of the first hits I came across was this article in which ex-PSU players suggested that players were actually getting fatter and weaker under Duncan; those are the exact same criticisms that Gittleson suffered from fans, although I'm sure many S&C coaches face the same questions.

Penn State's been hugely erratic of late and it's impossible to tell why. They've had their share of throbbing destroyers on the lines, some excellent tailbacks and so forth and so on, so it's not like the old style can't produce some excellent players. But, hey, no one's ever accused Barwis of making them into anything other than indestructible death machines.

A delicious side note: at the open scrimmage TTB attended, freshman QB Kevin Newsome hit 3 of 15 passes.

Behind enemy lines. This is a bit strange for me, but, uh: I'm posting this weekly thing at Bucknuts now, keeping them up to date on various things Michigan. Oh, and mocking. Mocking it hard. Here's the first one. If you feel the need to bring a stone to the tailgate/disaster/fiasco, feel free.

Etc.: Speaking of gsimmons, he's got a long and interesting post on this 4-3/3-4 distinction that's worth a review; Denard Robinson is approaching the speed of light.

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April 7th, 2009 at 2:57 PM | Ha! Good luck with blogging (Score:1)
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Ha! Good luck with blogging at Bucknuts.

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April 7th, 2009 at 3:22 PM | Kevin Newsome hit 3 of 15 (Score:1)
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Kevin Newsome hit 3 of 15 passes in a pro style offense because he is well on his way to becoming a pro QB because spread QB's never go pro. Duh!

or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.

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April 7th, 2009 at 3:24 PM | NBA Draft (Score:1)
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Manny could enter his name and then withdraw as well. It has nothing to do with age and everything to do with hiring an agent. Still, there's nothing to worry about here.

UMHoops

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April 7th, 2009 at 3:25 PM | In case you found it (Score:1)
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In case you found it difficult to wade through the comments over at Bucknuts, let me paraphrase: DURRRRRRRRRRRRR.

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April 7th, 2009 at 3:27 PM | Brian, I hope you read some (Score:1)
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Brian, I hope you read some of the comments after your post on Bucknuts. They are GOLD.

One guy insults your intelligence but doesn't bother to spell check or punctuate. Interesting move.

all this guy needs now is a helmet and a drool cup... applaud the effort of bucknuts to deliver everything their readers want but I would go to say that most of ur readers probly don't wanna read this garbage... I was expecting some kind of intelligent blog that I could respectably argue against but this was nothing but trash I won't be fooled into reading again

No question, Jim.

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April 7th, 2009 at 3:41 PM | One* guy... the irony is (Score:1)
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One* guy...
the irony is thick

Rudy watches inspirational movies about Shawn Hunwick

 

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April 7th, 2009 at 3:54 PM | ahhh FAIL (Score:1)
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Touche

No question, Jim.

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April 7th, 2009 at 5:34 PM | That one stood out to me (Score:1)
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That one stood out to me too.

not just "douchey" MGoBlog user, but now TRUSTED MGoBlog user

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April 8th, 2009 at 2:37 AM | "I won't be fooled into reading again" (Score:1)
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Kinda says it all.

Bet it happens a lot.

M'Dog

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April 7th, 2009 at 3:32 PM | Bucknuts Material (Score:1)
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It's pure gold. The post is hilarious and the comments are just as good. Their inability to understand sarcasm, paired with sub-par literacy should produce some very amusing results. That, and the rabid hate.

MIIIIIIIIICH

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April 7th, 2009 at 3:41 PM | "pee and blew" Oh man, they (Score:1)
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"pee and blew"

Oh man, they got you good! If someone said that to me, I'd immediately stop being a Michigan fan, of course, out of sheer embarrassment!

Ann Arbor: now the permanent home of the Little Brown Jug

67-22-3 all-time

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April 7th, 2009 at 3:41 PM | New Nickname for Denard (Score:1)
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c

Has the whole world gone CRAZY!?!

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April 7th, 2009 at 3:45 PM | gsimmons85 (Score:1)
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but does he have a cool car on his website? i think not... point to gsimm

www.gsimmons85.blogspot.com

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April 7th, 2009 at 3:49 PM | Sarcasm and self-deprecating humor.... (Score:1)
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.... going 30,000 miles over the head of Ohio State fans? I'm shocked. Shocked. (Sigh).

"In my judgment .... tremendous."

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April 8th, 2009 at 11:37 AM | If he does this, then there (Score:1)
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If he does this, then there needs to be a third option in the poll, which is of course, "Coner!"

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April 7th, 2009 at 4:09 PM | News Flash--Buck fans sound pretty dumb (Score:1)
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It was really interesting to read the responses on their site to Brian's post. While there were a token number of grown-ups, most of the responses fit quite nicely into the know nothing, jealous, kind of stupid stereotype of their fans.

"Everyone gets dumped Gabe. Let me give you some advice: a little coverup on your Adams Apple will make it appear smaller. Which will make you appear less like a transvestite." 

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April 7th, 2009 at 4:01 PM | Impossible battle (Score:1)
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I thought your Bucknuts post was hilarious. After reading the comments, I think that no matter what you did they wouldn't even respect it (it's fine to hate each other, but both sides should at least respect one another). If you told them how Michigan is actually doing then even the most pessimistic post would seem like "Michigan arrogance". And obviously the vast majority of them are determined not to laugh at anything that you put up.

Is the creator of Bucknuts also going to be doing anything like this in the future on MGoBlog or not?

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April 7th, 2009 at 5:03 PM | There aren't any plans for (Score:1)
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There aren't any plans for reciprocation. Bucknuts is what used to be OSU's Scout site and is more focused on information than snark.

Also, yes, the comments were completely expected.

MGoBlog |  HTTV 2010 | email

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April 7th, 2009 at 5:46 PM | Do you think they understood (Score:1)
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Do you think they understood "Shiny Things"?

not just "douchey" MGoBlog user, but now TRUSTED MGoBlog user

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April 8th, 2009 at 2:31 AM | Do you think they understood (Score:1)
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Do you think they understood "Any Things"?

M'Dog

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April 8th, 2009 at 8:36 AM | Touche (Score:1)
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Touche

not just "douchey" MGoBlog user, but now TRUSTED MGoBlog user

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April 7th, 2009 at 4:21 PM | LOL (Score:1)
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Reading their repsonses to your Bucknuts entry made me feel wierd, like I was as juvenile as them with their comments about your very regular sarcasm that they didn't understand. I can't put into words what I was thinking while reading their distaste for your article. I guess that sums things up, nothing needs to be said.

I assume Bucknuts is the premier site for OSU, right? Or you would not be wasting your time with it??? If those followers are the best they got, wow. I guess I have a bad case of Michigan Arrogance then.

 "Denard Robinson does things that would be like trying to draw a sound." -RBUAS 

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April 7th, 2009 at 5:59 PM | No, not premier (Score:1)
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No, that is not the premier OSU site. It's this:

http://www.wewillalwayshavetempe.com/

Penned by our good friend poguemahone.

Its surprisingly literate and pogue can actually write a complete sentence. Check it out for all you bucknut info.

Help My Friend Allison Fight ALS 

CFB, Week 1 Lines at the

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April 7th, 2009 at 4:12 PM | typical (Score:1)
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Though there are very few Ohio State graduates in New York City (an OSU grad in the city told me so, since the paper their degree is printed on is worth more than the degree itself. He had to go to grad school...) I managed to find one in a bar after they got blown out by USC. I asked him if he was getting used to being blown out in out of conference games. He responded by calling me a fag three times then threatening to fight me.

The large majority of disparaging comments on BuckNuts seem to offer a clever take on a name (MGoBlow, Dick Rod, scUM, etc...); a tactic popularized by... third graders.

While I applaud the heavy, heavy snarkyness of the inaugural blog post (hilarious), I hope that Brian's posts on Bucknuts in the future might be more informative to them and less snarky. I would very much welcome a similar feature on MgoBlog from a literate (edit: ha!) Buckeye blogger.

Btw: lol Shiny things.

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April 7th, 2009 at 4:17 PM | MGOBLOW!!!! ROFL! I laughed (Score:1)
Md23Rewls
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MGOBLOW!!!! ROFL!

I laughed harder at that Bucknuts post than I have at anything on the internet in a while. The comments were also good for some not purposefully humorous laughs.

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April 7th, 2009 at 4:52 PM | U R dumb (Score:1)
99bobcats
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Denard Robinson is not approaching the speed of light. Light is like really really fast. There's probably only a couple people that fast in the world.

Signed,
A Bucknut commenter

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April 7th, 2009 at 6:33 PM | Like I said in the related (Score:1)
Sommy
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Like I said in the related diary, I had a class with Ms. Macadangdang about a year before I graduated. Kinda weirded me out to see that name pop out out of nowhere. Anyway, she's pretty nice.

[/end creepiness]

...and by that, I mean helter-skelter, willy-nilly and putt-putt!

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April 7th, 2009 at 6:44 PM | I bleed (Score:1)
J. Lichty
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I have some experience with threat to "beat up" is a very common reaction to losing for OSU fans based upon my anecdotal experiences.

before we moved to the suburbs of chicago, I lived in a townhouse complex in the city with a courtyard. I flew a M flag. My neighbor's boyfriend (very muscled up early 40's guy) said during M/OSU weekend that if he came home drunk and my flag was up and OSU had lost, i should expect that the flag would be destroyed. The girlfriend - a kind of MILFY late 30's early 40's aerobics type told me that I better listen to him because she has seen him get into fights when OSU loses. That was Hart's freshman year - we never won while I lived there so I guess that
s why I was safe.

A friend of mine who is an lady M grad married an OSU grad. The OSU grad was telling me that when he went to the OSU/NW in 2004 where NW won, he threatened to beat up a pre-teen because he was -- gasp -- cheering for NW in the row in front of him -- at NW stadium -- a pre-teen, not even taunting the buckeye, but just cheering in front of him. He was not ashamed of this, but proud.

WHile not all bucknut fans are like that, there are enough of them around to spoil the bunch. I would rather be called "arrogant" than be associated with a fandom of soccer hooligans.

our package is our package, and it’s pretty big. - Greg Mattison, Bowl Practice Presser Tr. 12-13-11.

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April 8th, 2009 at 12:07 PM | That second paragraph made me (Score:1)
bronxblue
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That second paragraph made me think this post was going the way of a Penthouse forum column...

But to your point, I will say that certain fan bases seem to attract a rougher segment than others, and when you mix it with alcohol you get some of the incidents you mentioned. I was actually in Columbus the last time UM beat OSU (2003), and I actually had to hide my car at my friend's apartment because of my Michigan plates. And that wasn't being overly cautious - he had his car vandalized once before because of his plates. I'm sure the idiots who do stuff like that comprise a pretty small segment of the OSU following, but it is still a little depressing.

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April 7th, 2009 at 6:46 PM | Michigan Mondays posts (Score:1)
J. Lichty
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I would very much welcome a similar feature on MgoBlog from a literate (edit: ha!) Buckeye blogger.

I like the Michigan Mondays posts on Ozone.

our package is our package, and it’s pretty big. - Greg Mattison, Bowl Practice Presser Tr. 12-13-11.

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April 8th, 2009 at 10:12 AM | Hate (Score:1)
Onas
Joined: 06/30/2008
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Isn't it telling that there is so much hate from Buckeye fans even during a half-decade of uninterrupted dominance over Michigan? Hate like that can only be fueled from intractable insecurity. Could it be that, even when we're losing on the field, we're still winning?

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April 8th, 2009 at 11:55 AM | no. (Score:1)
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no.

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April 8th, 2009 at 9:34 PM | Naturally (Score:1)
Ernis
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Although the bottom-dwelling scum of the Ohio River Valley have, after many many years of being total losers, caught up to our level of success (and even manage to eke out an impressive series of consecutive wins from time to time) one thing will always remain true:

They grew up losers. Just as a child born into slavery who eventually earns freedom, whose attitude will always be colored by a lifetime of bondage, oppression, and servitude; so the Buckeyes relive the days of hopelessness that constitute most of the Rivalry with every passing hour of their pathetic and hate-filled lives.

Trust me, I know what I'm doing

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