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By Brian — August 4th, 2008 at 6:01 PM — 10 comments
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Ladies. Hello. We would like to talk to you. No, we don't ever take these off.

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Can anyone ID these gents? The guy on the left looks a little like Boren, but AFAIK the only guy on the team with dreads is Martavious Odoms, a freshman who never crossed paths with the family values maven. Don't bother with the one on the right, who's obviously John Travolta from Saturday Night Fever.

(Via EDSBS.)

I read this thing called SEOmoz, which is a horribly named but quite good blog on search engine optimization and related things. Before Friday, if you had asked me what the chances are I'd ever mention it in this space I would have told you "zero point zero," but I'm wrong:

Fluent Simplicity compiled a list of brands who are on Twitter. The list is pretty comprehensive and is broken down into sector. It's interesting to see which major companies have a Twitter account. (I was especially amused to see that Michigan State has one. I imagine their tweets to consist of either "won the game. students rioting" or "lost the game. students rioting.")

Zing!

Etiquette advice from a caveman. A couple people have emailed noting that newspapers have used quotes from the response to "my question" about tight ends from media day. It's really nice that there are people out there who act as defenders of the MGoFaith, but the question was asked in an open forum with a dozen people listening. Responses in that situation are fair game, as if it was a press confernece. It's not like I had an exclusive interview with Rodriguez or anything.

Also, Angelique Chengelis is really nice, continually got information no one else did during the Carr era, and helped Johnny land the Carr interview that features in Hail To The Victors 2008; she's the last media person anyone should be criticizing.

Yes, your math's wrong. By request of Dennis Dodd, who titles his latest blog post "please someone tell me my math is wrong": your math is wrong. This is your math:

According to my math (always a dicey proposition but hang with me, it's only a blog [SCREW YOU GOLLUM -ed]), the average college team ran 72 plays per game last season. Fine, great. The average NFL team ran 62.76 plays per game. That's with the 40/25 rule. That's also a difference of 9.14 plays per game. Multiplied by two teams thats more than 18 plays per game difference. ...

It looks to me like the NCAA rules committee is about to bastardize the game like it did two years ago when its misguided timing rules slashed something like 13 plays per game. The rules were adjusted last season and once again we had reasonable college football.

Your math completely ignores the biggest timing difference between college football and the NFL: on a first down, the clock stops until the chains are set and the ball is ready for play. This takes somewhere between 10 and 15 seconds -- looks like 12 is a good average -- and last year the average Big Ten game had 40.6 first downs. Approximately eight minutes runs of an NFL game clock that does not run off an NCAA game clock because of this rule change, which means a college game is 15% longer than an NFL game because of this rule's effect*. 72 is 115% of 62.76: virtually the entire difference the length of pro and college games is explained here.

Also, during the bastardized clock season you wrote an article proclaiming the Return of Defense, citing an amazing 10% decrease in scoring offense in a year when games were 10% shorter. You should probably not write things about the game clock.

Games will probably be a bit shorter because out of bounds plays will now have the clock wound after the ball is marked ready for play; the effect will be considerably smaller than 2005.

*(I think. I'm not sure whether I should be dividing 60 by 52 or 68 by 60. Statistician help? The latter would be 13%, FWIW.)

Coin. More dollars for the program:

The University of Michigan became the latest elite college athletic program to sell off a package of its media rights, bringing in $86 million through a 12-year deal with IMG College.

The deal, which runs through June 2020, marks the first time Michigan has bundled all of its media rights into one package and marks the continuation of a trend where colleges are hiring companies, such as IMG College, to maximize revenue from those rights.

That's about $7.2 million per year on top of the reported $5-7 million they're making from the Big Ten Network. Since Florida just signed over a similar suite of rights (that is: all the stuff Michigan is signing over to IMG plus the TV rights to everything except most football and some basketball games) to the same company for $10 million per, that seems like a pretty good deal. And it's not going to compromise Michigan stadium's zealous purity:

Throughout the negotiations, IMG College had to convince the school that it would protect the integrity of the game-day experience inside Michigan Stadium, known as "The Big House."

"We can increase the revenue and value of corporate sponsorships by doing things outside the stadium," Stultz said. "The more we talked about that, the more excited they got about it."

Etc.: Michigan is running a video countdown to the season; they're super fluffy but where else can you see images of guys doing hang cleans to rawkin' 80s guitar solos? Don't answer that question. Soon-to-be-ex AJC sportswriter Tony Barnhart has Auburn spread junkie Tony Franklin give key bullet points on why it, like 80s guitar solos, rawks. (Sidenote: the problem with newspapers offering voluntary buyouts is that often the guys with options -- the ones who aren't reprehensible -- say "okay" and the Terence Moores of the world cling to the lifeboat.) The Hoosier Report has old video of a 50s-era Michigan-IU game. The stands, they are not so full.

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August 4th, 2008 at 6:09 PM | guy on the left is martin. i (Score:1)
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guy on the left is martin. i think those are all freshmen
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August 4th, 2008 at 6:13 PM | the guy with the dreads (Score:1)
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is brandon smith, harrison and odoms have dreads as well

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August 4th, 2008 at 6:18 PM | "zero point zero" (Score:1)
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are you a howard stern fan or do you just like animal house?

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August 4th, 2008 at 6:18 PM | Players in the photo (Score:1)
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I think the left most guy looks like Boren, but has doesn't have the bodysize to be an O-Lineman.

The guy on the floor would appear to be odoms (for comparasion:  http://www.blueandgold.com/images/photos/image/players/recruits/2008/odo...

 The guy on the far right looks like manningham (although I'm sure its not).

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August 4th, 2008 at 6:29 PM | JB Fitzgerald & Taylor Hill? (Score:1)
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Far right looks to me like Taylor Hill JB Fitzgerald is in the back. Agree about Martin and Smith. Not sure about second from left?

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August 4th, 2008 at 7:24 PM | In terms of physique, I'd guess they're all (Score:1)
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freshmen. Also: how come your cool spreadsheet gets to be pretty and mine turns pretty women into stone statues when they glance its way?

...the Canadians make up for it with their emotion and classic ice-dancing skill.

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August 4th, 2008 at 9:52 PM | AND (Score:1)
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how did you not take the opportunity to title that photo "OMG SHIRTLESS" ?

...the Canadians make up for it with their emotion and classic ice-dancing skill.

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August 4th, 2008 at 11:05 PM | Yeah, I agree that the guy on (Score:1)
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Yeah, I agree that the guy on the left has to be Martin.

...and by that, I mean helter-skelter, willy-nilly and putt-putt!

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August 5th, 2008 at 12:32 AM | Mathiness (Score:1)
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You should definitely not be using the number 68 in your calculations. A college game does not have more than 60 minutes of playing time.

Ignoring all other rule differences there is 8 minutes of game play lost in an NFL game. That means an NFL game has 52 minutes of game play compared to 60 minutes of play in college. 52 is 86.6% of 60.

The other important thing is to always make sure you're doing the percentages in the same direction. So then we compare number of plays. The 62.76 NFL plays per game is 87.1% of the 72 college plays per game.

So it does seem you're right about all of the difference being accounted for by the first down time rule. I knew that helped out the college teams, but who knew it would make such a big difference!

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August 5th, 2008 at 12:32 AM | The only issue is that you (Score:1)
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The only issue is that you are using the average number of first downs in a Big Ten game.  We should really be using the average number of first downs in an NFL game (which I had trouble finding).  In 2004 it seems like there were an average of 54 first downs per NFL game.  That would be more like 11 minutes of the play clock that runs off an NFL game.  Using that stat, an NFL game has only 82% of the playing time as a college game.

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