Unverified Voracity Kickstarts Pahokee Comment Count

Brian

Hope for Pahokee, the kickstarter. Martavious Odoms's charity for his hometown has set out to kickstart themselves:

They've got 16 days to get to 35k and are 25k short. Hit it up

Also, don't forget the Colt DelVerne fundraiser on the 15th.

Transition costs: steep. Not here, but in Madison, where their new OL coach just got canned two games in. This was no Adam Braithwaite, either:

When UW coach Bret Bielema hired Markuson in the offseason, it was considered to be a coup at the time. Markuson spent the last 14 years coaching offensive lines in the Southeastern Conference at Arkansas and Mississippi. Since 2003, he coached six different players who earned All-America honors.

The Badgers had 35 rushing yards against Oregon State, 70 if you take out sacks.

The new guy is basically Adam Braithwaite. Bart Miller is a quality control coach who graduated from New Mexico in 2007 and hasn't had a full-time assistant job yet. Now he's in deep. Bret Bielema may be less lovable than Brady Hoke.

The numbers from that Oregon State game are shocking: 1.5 yards a carry for Montee Ball, 4.4 yards a pass, and 206 total yards against a team that was 3-9 last year. The 2011 Beavers were in the triple digits in rushing D and pass efficiency D and gave up 35 points to the Badgers. Nobody turns that around that quickly. I'll have to torrent that thing to see what happened.

Boo 3:30 starts. If we'd had the Air Force game at noon we all could have watched Iowa and Wisconsin implode and Notre Dame nearly do the same. Boo 3:30 starts, boo.

Ticket prices: still approaching breaking point. OSU's game against pretty decent UCF was not a sellout:

Tony Gerdeman@GerdOzone

Time for #OSU to stop raising ticket prices? Last week's game was the first under 105,000 since New Mexico St. in 2009.

Bowl ban, yeah, but add it to the pile.

Lloydballin' it? Michigan punted from the Air Force 34 in the first quarter Saturday, causing a couple people to anticipate a twitter rage coming from yours truly. I guess I'm too prone to rages.

I didn't have a problem with it. If you don't think your kicker can hit it, punting is the move, yes even from the 34. I plugged the situation into Advanced NFL Stats's fourth down combobulator and it spake thusly:

Stat Go4it Punt FG Att
Success Rate: 0.10 - 0.52
EP Success +4.33 0.16 2.4
EP Fail: -1.1 - -1.51
EP Total: -0.56 0.16 0.54
Break-Even: 0.30

The field goal is the best option if you've got an NFL kicker. Michigan doesn't.

So then you've got to think you have a 30% shot at converting to make it a 50-50 shot. Yeah, college defenses are more prone to breakdowns, especially Air Force's, but at worst the punt is a close call you can't get exercised about either way.

The clock butchery at the end of the first half did bug me. As a general rule, any time the clock is running after a play and you have >1 timeouts, use it. As soon as they ruled Roundtree in bounds they should have called their first timeout.

For whatever reason, Michigan's had issues with that sort of thing. Last year's Iowa game was the most frustrating example:

friggin-huddle

Is that a freaking huddle as the ref signals the game clock with 31 seconds on the play clock? Yes.

late-snap

NASCAR? MORE LIKE SLOWCAR ZING

That's Michigan snapping it seventeen seconds later. /head asplode

Hopefully they get it together before that burns them again.

Adorable child. From the comments of the game column:

I was on my couch, not in the stadium (get off my back, I'm 2500 miles away). I was wearing my t-shirt. My two year old son was beside me, cheering gamely for "Deenarr WOB-inson!" as the team stood on the sidelines before kickoff. (SoullessHack, Jr. refers to both #16 and the entire team as Denard Robinson... although any non-Denard player is "the guy.") It was nice. Nice. Not the gut-churning excitement I've felt every other year. But it was nice. I guess.

Then Denard made the MLB miss. I counted three steps straight upfield and said, calmly, "They're not going to get him." SoullessHack, Jr., though, jumped up on the couch and started screaming, "DENARR WOBINSON DENARR WOBINSON! RUNNING! RUN RUN RUN!" When they cut to the cheering crowd, SHJr took his cue began to clap and jump up and down.

"HE DID IT! DENARR WOBINSON RUN SO FAST WIFF DA FOOTBAWL!!"

As long as this is not kicking me for three hours it is adorable. (There were children directly in front of and behind me at the Air Force game. Somehow they both kicked me. A lot.)

Etc.: Sticking this way down here because people are going to yell at me for mentioning him, but this shot from SMQ featuring Rich Rodriguez and his kids after the Wildcats upset Oklahoma State reminded me of of all those Rhett and Rich Rodriguez photos from his M days.

It's never too late to link Stuffing the Passer. It's okay to cheer, ND fans! (It's not. Stop it.) Webb on potential 2013 basketball addition Reggie Cameron. Duke may be in some NCAA hot water. I'm so happy SMQ is back. Here's UCLA-Nebraska recapped by Mr. Hinton.

Comments

m1jjb00

September 10th, 2012 at 5:00 PM ^

OK I asked it on WTKA this morning.  If you're not calling time out, how much time should you expect to run off the clock before starting the play if you're executing well?  It seemed to me that Denard, the rest of the offense, and/or the coaches were particularly slow getting both plays started (post Roundtree and post Gardner catches).  Clearly Brady thought so.  I think you can justify not calling the time out early if you thought you could run the next play quickly, yes?  No--unreasonable to think the offense could keep the time loss to an acceptable level? 

 

snarling wolverine

September 10th, 2012 at 5:44 PM ^

To spike the ball, you'll generally lose 2-3 seconds.  To run an actual play, it's more like 5-8, because you need everyone to get set and then you have your snap count.  I definitely thought we should have called a timeout after we picked up the first down with 22 seconds.  By the time we snapped it, we were down to about 15 seconds.  Given that a pass play to the sideline will generally take about seven seconds, we effectively lost a play by sitting on our timeouts.  

 

tvaduva

September 11th, 2012 at 12:46 PM ^

With only 22 seconds left and more than one timeout you have to take it. I don't necessarily agree with Brian's general rule that you have to take a timeout if the clock is running and you have > 1. If you can go NASCAR and can take less than 8 seconds to line up and call the play, I rather keep the timeouts to open up the playbook (i.e. be able to run both pass and run plays if you need to).

I would like Borges' offense to get better at going no huddle.

JeepinBen

September 10th, 2012 at 5:02 PM ^

Odoms is trying to set up a community garden, and giving a lot of time/energy, especially when it comes to what you get for your donation.

Hit it up and help him out. Don't forget his mountain-goating:

Alexandre DeLarge

September 10th, 2012 at 10:40 PM ^

I personally don't single Rodriguez out because I don't look at it like we suffered for three years. In my book, we suffered for 10.

From the winter of 2001 when Jim Tressel replaced John Cooper and Drew Henson bolted to the Yankees up until last year, Michigan football wasn't able to sustain any good vibes. The constant losses to OSU or in bowl games made the offseasons pretty damn miserable.

The RR era pretty much represented a manifest destiny of futility and agnst that was slowly building up in the seven years that preceded his arrival until our fortunate rebirth last season (the first since 1999 with two losses or less and wins against both the Buckeyes and our bowl opponent).

 

MGoCombs

September 11th, 2012 at 10:10 AM ^

Well put. I try to explain this concept to my fellow Michigan fan friends and it is like their head is about to explode. Mostly, I think he's just a likeable guy. And by saying I am rooting for him to do well, they think I want him back, or I am somehow slighting Coach Hoke. I don't know why he gets treated like an ex-girlfriend who slept with your best friend and stole all of your records.

The Wagon

September 10th, 2012 at 5:07 PM ^

Isn't that decision partially made on 3rd down? I don't remember the exact circumstances, but I think it was roughly 3rd and 17 or so. At that point, Hoke has to decide whether or not he plans to punt on 4th down. If the decision is made NOT to punt, you treat that play like a 2nd and 16 and don't necessarily have to move the chains on that play. Things are a little more complicated in that region of the field with the option of a FG, but it always drives me nuts when teams throw an incompletion going for a first down on 3rd and long and then are stuck in the same situation on 4th down when they could've gained half the necessary yardage on each of the 2 plays.

Nothsa

September 10th, 2012 at 7:39 PM ^

I totally agree. IIRC the 3d down play was a long incomplete pass. Maybe Denard or the OC saw something they liked on that one... me, the armchair OC who always makes the right call, thinks that's a QB draw - maybe, this being Denard, you get a TD, more likely you get 8-12 yards, but that run sets you up either for the FG attempt or for a makable 4th down conversion.

 

So the bad call was not the punt, it was the third down call. Again, maybe Borges or Denard saw something they liked in Air Force's D on that one, but otherwise I just disagree with the decision.

 

There were worse playcalling decisions: the clock mismanagement before the half, Denard from under center at our goalline on first down, some other things I've blotted out, but this one bugged me at the time.

lhglrkwg

September 10th, 2012 at 5:07 PM ^

Wasn't it either 4th and 16 or 4th and 19? What percentage of people convert that? This isn't 4th and less than 5. You've gotta figure we probably give the ball to Air Force somewhere between the LOS and the chains versus punting it for 20ish yards.

Awkward situation for sure but I think it was the correct call to punt

FrankMurphy

September 10th, 2012 at 5:19 PM ^

Sticking this way down here because people are going to yell at me for mentioning him, but this shot from SMQ featuring Rich Rodriguez and his kids after the Wildcats upset Oklahoma State reminded me of of all those Rhett and Rich Rodriguez photos from his M days.
I AM ANGARRR

Lionsfan

September 10th, 2012 at 5:35 PM ^

With regards to the punting, it also helps to note that: A - It was like 4th and a bunch, not 4th and 4, and B: There was still plenty of game left to be played, i.e. getting a first down wouldn't have sealed the win for us

MGlobules

September 10th, 2012 at 6:00 PM ^

Have a grad assistant study the clock and nothing else. Have Hoke school him in his basic conceptions of time management, then have him spit out the options when they're in such  situations. Blow minds rather than heads. 

P.S. Is it permissible to talk about how attractive RR's daughter is now?

TyrannousLex

September 10th, 2012 at 6:59 PM ^

I just pledged, and Tae is a long way from a noble goal. I'll pledge again, but a few hundred is where i'll max out.

As a once professional gardener who still works hard in his own yard and spends Sundays at his friend's farm to help slaughter chickens, pigs, and turkeys, i dig where Odoms is going with this and know what kind of difference he'll make if he succeeds.

 

DY

September 10th, 2012 at 9:48 PM ^

It was in one of the Rich Rod takes over at Arizona articles from the off-season in which he told his players in their first team meeting not to friend his daughter on Facebook because she's 15.

gobluekurt

September 10th, 2012 at 7:34 PM ^

Agree on the 3:30 starts they are horrible (1330 my time). Here in the MST I love waking up heading to the gym getting home to watch the game at 1000 am, then deciding wether to be productive or watch a another B1G team embarrass themselves before the night games.

DealerCamel

September 10th, 2012 at 9:08 PM ^

I live on North Campus, and the Bursley dining hall doesn't open until 10:30 on Saturdays, so if the game's at noon then you and a couple thousand other people living on North are trying to get to Central in the same hour timeframe, so I'm biased in favor of 3:30 games.

I am aware that residents of North Campus are soulless and therefore their opinions are irrelevant, however.

Evil Empire

September 10th, 2012 at 10:10 PM ^

It's going to be quite the shock to her system when he isn't the Michigan quarterback.  He's the only one she's known.

Saddest story ever: I was out of the room during the MSU game last year and she shouted to me "Daddy, Denard just threw a touchdown!"  Too bad it was to the wrong team.  :-(

loosekanen

September 11th, 2012 at 1:06 AM ^

I posted this in another forum where I frequent but I stole the idea and it's a good one. You pledge amounts for everything you see happen during the season and donate based on the final totals. Stuff that you'll understand:

.01 for every Denard Robinson yard from scrimmage
.50 for every interception thrown by Sanchize, Big Rape, Romo, Cutlahhh, and all Arizona QBs
$1 every time Andy Reid loses a timeout for an incorrect challenge
$1 for every Andrew Luck TD
$1 for everybody I finish ahead of in the 2p2 yahoo survivor pool
$5 for every Michigan football conference victory less OSU
$25 if Michigan beats OSU
$n/2,000,000: domestic box office opening weekend for "The Hobbit"

all proceeds donated to Tay's kickstarter with a placeholder that I'll hopefully get to donate a cool experience of laser tag/go karting to a kid that volunteers his time and works hard on the project.

I don't make a lot of money, but this is something I feel is valuable and this is a fun way to sweat the amount. I sincerely hope this gets off the ground. If we can rule the EDSBS pledge drive every year we can definitely do some of the legwork to help one of Michigan's own in a good cause. Cheers, friends.

loosekanen

September 11th, 2012 at 5:59 PM ^

that's why i dropped a placeholder. i didn't say how much because i don't feel like people should have to do that, but i did a rough estimate of where i thought my total would be and dropped 50% of it now to help get it off the ground.

imafreak1

September 11th, 2012 at 10:39 AM ^

I will break the first rule of RICHROD, which is DON'T TALK ABOUT RICHROD, to note that Arizona went for a 4th and 16 from the OSU 35 on Saturday night. They did not get it.