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so so fast

Not so fast. Incoming transfer Ty Isaac wants to play next year, and has at least some sort of case to do so. Is it enough? While we are talking about an insane organization that could do anything, the consensus is probably not.

"(The family health issue) has to be a debilitating injury," said John Infante, a former NCAA compliance officer who operates the popular "Bylaw Blog" for AthNet. "It doesn't have to be life-threatening, necessarily, but it would have to be something that prevented her from working or getting around, if it's a surgery for hearing loss, I'm not sure if that'll qualify, but it might."

And then the 100-mile thing kicks in. If Isaac was 109 miles away, you could probably fudge the difference. Michigan's distance from Peoria might be problematic.

From Michigan's perspective, moving Isaac a year behind Smith and Green is better for roster balance… but not so good for this year, when offensive production is critical for the perception of the program.

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O'Bannoning. The O'Bannon trial kicked off yesterday, and there were highlights. The NCAA wanted O'Bannon to know that a man he respected thought college athletes should not be paid.

It was determined that Noted Legal Scholar Bill Walton has a legally binding opinion and the case ended 15 minutes later with a comprehensive NCAA victory. : (

In case the previous sentence is not true, you may want to read about the issues addressed on day one of the trial. The NCAA is trying to show that the college experience is worth something, which I guess sure it is. How that relates to publicity rights and the law is… well, there's a reason Bill Walton is getting brought up.

In related news, the NCAA blinks in the Keller case, settling that for 20 million. They have again asserted that current student-athletes who receive a check for their likeness will not have their eligibility compromised, because that's ridiculous. As long as compensation for your likeness is mandated by a court after the fact, you can profit off of it.

"In no event do we consider this settlement pay for athletics performance."

It's just getting paid for something without having to sue they have problems with. Delightfully, the NCAA is going to try to argue that there is no market for college athlete's images after settling two lawsuits in which 60 million dollars have been issued in compensation for those images. Oh, and EA says they would have paid if they could have.

Also a prime NCAA argument: the ban on compensation is required for a level playing f

“If you’ve got a $6 million athletic budget, you shouldn’t be worrying about what I do,” [Washington president Michael] Young contends. “You’re never going to compete with us. We don’t recruit the same players. We don’t even play on the same field. It just doesn’t matter.”

Hm.

A potential factor. The student section is collapsing this year, and MLive has a potential reason why. Prices:

Ohio State -- $252 for 7 games
Penn State -- $218 for 7 games
Wisconsin -- $188 for 7 games
Iowa -- $175 for 7 games, $165 with future alumni group discount
Michigan State -- $175 for 7 games
Nebraska -- $166 for 7 games
Purdue -- $119 for 7 games
Illinois -- $99 for 7 games
Rutgers -- $99 for 6 games
Minnesota -- $90 for 7 games
Indiana -- $60 for 6 games
Maryland and Northwestern -- tickets free with full tuition and student fee payment

Michigan's is 50 bucks more than Ohio State; unlike Ohio State, Michigan is barely above .500 since 2007. And Ohio State has a big game or two on the schedule. Once again, Michael Proppe sounds like the adult:

"We did a survey for students while we were researching the general admission policy, we told them 'assume the price stayed the same, here's the schedule for next year, even if we went back to reserved seating, how many would renew their tickets?' I think it was about 68 percent who said they'd renew.

"(The drop) was pretty predictable, actually, even with going back to a more attractive ticket policy that a lot of people would drop their seats."

And about 68% renewed. It's kind of amazing that it's the student government that had to survey the students.

Brandon:

"What we want is the students who buy tickets to show up," Brandon said. "If what we've done is lost some of the students that really weren't interested in attending, if you're looking at the projected reduction in tickets, that's almost the equivalent of the no-show average we had (last year)."

The no-show rate is not going to go down much, as the kind of people who no-show games aren't the ones for whom three hundred bucks is kind of a big deal. Michael Proppe for athletic director.

Everybody into the pile. I thought Michigan's hockey roster was going to be crowded this fall. Now it's going to be jammed. Michigan picked up a commitment from Ann Arbor native Niko Porikos a couple days back. Porikos is a '93, which means he'll arrive at 21. Generally this is a sign of a gentleman who is destined to be a healthy scratch for most of his career, and… well, yeah, probably.

In Porikos's favor, defensemen do take time to develop, and given the state of the roster it's not like they need a guy to be a practice body.

Michigan has seven defensemen on the roster, plus incoming freshmen Sam Piazza and Cutler Martin. Porikos is number ten…

BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE!

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Zach Werenski and what appears to be a Swedish ten-year old

Michigan has not quite acquired a commitment from U17 defenseman Zach Werenski. Poke a guy on twitter, or especially Mike Spath—who was way out ahead of the story but has to be careful for the same reasons Sam Webb does—and he'll say Werenski is going to be in Ann Arbor. They'll generally do this with an "ugh" because Werenski is kind of a big deal, a potential top ten draft pick, and they are Boston College fans who thought they were going to get him.

The thing is: he's a potential top ten draft pick in 2015, and Werenski is probably going to be playing for Michigan this fall. IE: dude is skipping his senior year of high school. Thus the "eh, maybe" aspect of this whole thing, where Spath drops hints for months and all the news comes from the BC side of things.

Adding Werenski would put Michigan at a whopping 11 defensemen, and while a few of them are not real threats to play (Spencer Hyman redshirted last year; Mike Szuma didn't get a game after playing most of his freshman year), I thought there was some Title IX-related reason that Michigan couldn't have a really big roster. Maybe not? Title IX compliance comes down to a court saying you are or are not, because the law is written pretty vaguely.

While we're on next year's hockey team, Dylan Larkin is ranked ninth by HockeyProspect.com. That's the highest I've seen, and while he's more likely to go in the 20s than the top ten it does seem at this point that he's likely to go in the first round unlike some of Michigan's recent projected first rounders (Compher, Merrill).

So it's come to this. I assume that Erin Lennon of the Daily has not been around too long, so let me gently suggest that this

…expect Porikos and Michigan’s underclassmen to play key roles in coach Red Berenson’s defensive-minded system.

…is more a product of sad circumstance than intent, and that if you insist on claiming that Red Berenson is some sort of trap aficionado I will become desolately sad.

It was football. Someone remind me next year when the European American Football Championships are on, because when Germany and Austria face off you get reverse passes and squat kickers doing the Manziel:

Turns out the Germans and the Austrians have some bad blood here, and that's all you really need.

Etc.: Graham Glasgow was driving a merry car indeed. The NCAA hasn't even bothered to investigate North Carolina. The NCAA would probably prefer it if Washington's president would stop saying things. Mathlete's Lego stadiums make Yahoo.

Sonny Vaccaro's long feud with the NCAA is culminating in the O'Bannon case. EVEN MORE O'BANNON. Stauskas preps for the draft. This headline sounds inflammatory but it's really not.

Comments

Michigan Arrogance

June 10th, 2014 at 11:36 AM ^

Berenson's defensive minded system is defensive in that he requires the forwards to play defensive roles as much as offensive roles- something he changed at some point when Sauer was in net I think- the game changed from 8-3 beatings in the 80s & 90s to a 4-2 sluggouts where more shots are blocked than taken on net over the last 10 years. Plus, we've had issues in goal off and on for a decade.

 

I can't believe M is charging 20% more than the next highest program for student stickets this year with that schedule.

Space Coyote

June 10th, 2014 at 11:51 AM ^

But I was still sad not to see this linked in the Etc.

There are plenty of floppers and plenty of sports, even though soccer is known for it. But this coach just does a great job here. A little finger poke to the collar bone and he looks like he's in Darth Vader's deadly force grip. Yet, seconds later, he's right back up and going at it. Good stuff that.

jmdblue

June 10th, 2014 at 1:31 PM ^

It is especially irritating when the flopper is practically winking at the camera while being helped off the pitch. 

I've heard fans blame the whole situation on the refs whom they say are too incompetent to recognize the flops.  I say it's an ideal that says fair play and honor mean nothing against the possiblity of winning.  An ideal my old man worked very hard to make sure I didn't carry with me.

Gulogulo37

June 10th, 2014 at 8:03 PM ^

Soccer players are just less honorable people? Come on. The problem in soccer is that flopping has huge potential benefits and basically no risk. If they just started cracking down and giving yellow cards (I believe they can give yellow cards now for flopping but it basically never happens), it'll cut it way down.

Every sport has problems with diving or steroids or pine tar, etc. in baseball or rough stuff in a fumble pile. In the sense of being fair or moral, diving isn't any worse than an intentional hook a hockey player tries to get away with to prevent a breakaway.

MGoStrength

June 10th, 2014 at 12:02 PM ^

Is the Isaac transfer already a done deal or does it depend on if he's allowed to play this year?  I know he said he will transfer, but has he yet?  If the NCAA rules he cannot play this year at UM does that mean UM doesn't land him?  How does that process even work...like is the athlete allowed to find that out before transferring or can he not even apply for the waiver until afterwards?

maize-blue

June 10th, 2014 at 12:10 PM ^

My own opinion and one that is based on nothing, is that they already have a good idea of how it will play out. So, if I were to look at the situation positively, I would say that they believe he will be able to get the waiver and play this season. That is why he pulled the trigger and chose UM.

…or he doesn’t mind sitting a year.

tbosa

June 10th, 2014 at 2:21 PM ^

Maybe his mom has relatives in Detroit and she's going to move there?  Or maybe UM Medical has a specialist for her problem, so she is going to move to Ann Arbor?  Then she'd be within 100 miles.  Where does it say she can't move in order to get closer to his school he wants to transfer to?  Just a thought....

Raoul

June 10th, 2014 at 2:30 PM ^

Seems unlikely she'd move, but from the DetNews article I linked below, she does indicate she may have the surgery she needs at the U-M Hospital (with help from a wife of one of the coaches).

“I have a surgery that has to get scheduled,” she said. “(Michigan assistant) Coach (Jeff) Hecklinski’s wife is going to recommend someone for me up there at Michigan. My hearing is really bad and we’re trying to find a way to resolve that, but right now I feel OK.”

Vengeful Barbarian

June 10th, 2014 at 3:57 PM ^

Does anybody else think the whole transfer waiver for a sick family member is a little ass backwards? Wouldn't sitting out a year allow a player to have more free time to spend with their sick family member than if they have to play and practice 40+ hours a week in addition to attending classes? 

Blue Carcajou

June 10th, 2014 at 12:14 PM ^

What from I understand Ty wants to and is transferring to Michigan, period. The coaches, as well as the school, obviously, has already accepted him. He's applying for the waiver and waiting to hear back on whether or not he can suit-up this fall and be in contention with the current RBs. I think it's best for the team if he waits out a year. He may be the best RB we have but the coaches have invested in Green and Smith, and let's be honest, they were just freshman last year and any RB would have had just as difficult a time with our porous O-line. And if anyone has seen recent pics of Green they'd know what kind of shape he's gotten himself in... He certainly looks ready. I'd like a little more distance between the three backs, to be honest, but we will see.

Raoul

June 10th, 2014 at 12:52 PM ^

Michigan officially announced Isaac's transfer today, so I think people can stop worrying about whether it's going to happen or not.

Sam Webb's DetNews article on Isaac yesterday made it clear he's prepared to sit out a year if he has to. It also indicates that it's Michigan that has to apply to the NCAA for the waiver, not Isaac and his family.

“We were told flat out that it’s not up to us as a family or Ty as an athlete to request the waiver,” Mrs. Isaac said. “It’s up to the school. So Michigan has to go to the NCAA and say we want him to be able to play this year because he came home for a hardship reason. That’s Michigan and the NCAA. I don’t know what kind of documentation we’re going to have to produce, but I have stacks of doctor’s visits and bills. I would be happy to give all of them to them. So I know that Michigan has to go to the NCAA and ask for Ty to play. I don’t know (how long the process will take).”

Isaac expressed optimism when asked about the likelihood of receiving the waiver, but he understands the very real possibility that it could go the other way.

“I think he is prepared to handle (a denial),” Mrs. Isaac said. “I think he’d be disappointed. He wants to play. He is lifting every day and he is staying shape. I think he will be very disappointed if he can’t, but he knows that’s a possibility.”

In the grand scheme of things, though, he deemed that potential disappointment a small price to pay to be closer to home and playing for a program with which he’d already established a strong relationship. Being a car ride from his mom, as opposed to a plane ride, isn’t a matter of convenience. It’s a matter of her health. She has yet to receive a clear diagnosis for the litany of ailments that she has been stricken with over the past year, but she has received clear instruction on dealing with her very serious ear condition. She must cease so much flying or risk the total loss of hearing.

BlueCube

June 10th, 2014 at 1:19 PM ^

it sounds doubtful he will be eligible immediately based on what they said.

 

 

"They'll have to establish that it's a serious enough injury or illness to warrant the waiver, and then there's the problem with the distance, and that's why I sort of feel like it's unlikely to be granted," Infante said. "You have to establish that you're going to be involved in the care (of your family member), that's part of being closer. If you're four hours away and you're not able to be there regularly, then that's going to argue against you getting that waiver. "So far (they've been firm on the 100-mile rule), I can't point to any cases off the top of my head where someone got a waiver like that at a school beyond 100 miles that didn't have other factors to trump that."

MLive link

acs236

June 10th, 2014 at 12:14 PM ^

"From Michigan's perspective, moving Isaac a year behind Smith and Green is better for roster balance… but not so good for this year, when offensive production is critical for the perception of the program."

 

Cali Wolverine

June 10th, 2014 at 12:24 PM ^

Getting so tired of hearing that Isaac sitting is "better for roster balance". F roster balance...another crappy year and Hoke won't have to worry about future roster balance. Isaac is a great player...we sucked last year in case some of you weren't watching. Next year's team will be much better with Isaac than without him...provided he gets the waiver.

Blue Carcajou

June 10th, 2014 at 12:29 PM ^

And what makes you think one freshman transfer RB will make all the difference? So many more factors going into being successful next year and Ty Isaac is the least of them. I'm all for having him play, but doubt he'll suddenly be the answer to this team's many problems.

AeonBlue

June 10th, 2014 at 12:38 PM ^

5* RB or not, if he doesn't have a hole to run through it won't matter. Adrian Peterson couldn't have averaged 100yds behind our line last year and that was with two NFL tackles. Getting hit behind the line before you can make a move is not a good thing. Ask Vincent Smith.

If we got a 5* guard transfer from another school I think there would be a little more hand-waving for him to start immediately, roster depth be damned. As it stands, *upgrading the RB position isn't going to keep them from being hit before they hit the hole.

*Remember, Green was a highly rated recruit as well

Cali Wolverine

June 10th, 2014 at 1:51 PM ^

What I said is who gives a fuck about roster balance for next year. I am pretty sure Hoke is more concerned about winning the most games he can next year. Adding Isaac helps, it does not hurt. I saw Isaac play in person and in practice last year...and in limited action he looked much more polished than Green or Smith did last year in limited action (who I also saw play in person). And USC's offensive line was so injury depleted last year...but the backs still managed to have success running behind a second string O-Line that didn't have anyone as talented as Lewan. What I have also seen from my experience following USC and college football in general...you can never have too many 5 star running backs...they promote competition amongst one another, they get injured, etc. EDIT: And can we add "This" to the list of overused and meaningless terms on this blog? 'Nuff said.

AeonBlue

June 10th, 2014 at 3:28 PM ^

The aforementioned roster balance isn't referring to next year so much as it's referring to which class he'll belong to. If he plays next year then we'll have 3 running backs in the class of '13. That's fine for competition but our future roster will be more "balanced" because eligibility will be spread out and you won't have a bunch of players at one position exiting at the same time.

That's not to say that roster balance trumps winning now, especially in the case of Hoke where his seat is getting warmer which is why Brian said "but not so good for this year, when offensive production is critical for the perception of the program." It's a pro/con situation.

It's entirely possible that the team will get better if Isaac can play this season. It's also entirely possible they won't. It's been all-too-frequent in recent years that fans and, occasionally, members of this blog have declared that recruit/player X is going to lift the team (Sam McGuffie, Tate Forcier, Ondre Pipkins, Shane Morris, etc.) and they must start/play now. Maybe not explicitly but it's been discussed. My point is: temper expectations for what, if anything, this one player can do for the team on day 1. He's probably not going to be the difference between 7 and 10 wins. There are a multitude of other issues.

Erik_in_Dayton

June 10th, 2014 at 12:34 PM ^

I'm sure it was the greatest article ever written, an article that makes all other articles pale in comparison, and article that is the living embodiment of the kind of excellence that John Wooden demanded of his teams. 

Seriously, though, I'm interested in his opinion.  I'd like the surviving members of the Grateful Dead to weigh in before I make up my mind, though. 

ziggolfer

June 10th, 2014 at 1:24 PM ^

Sent him an email the other day thanking him for his work. Only person in MSA who did anything of notice during my continuing yrs at the university. I'm sure other have made contributions, but let's be honest. At Michigan football is pretty much the most important thing. 

MichIOE01

June 10th, 2014 at 2:03 PM ^

What would it take, and what are the odds of success, of any effort to oust him?  Maybe some pressure/petitions/campaign from alumni, current students, fans, former athletes.  He clearly has no clue about anything other than money, but I'm sure we could find someone who can also make money, but can do so without ruining everything that makes UM and college sports so special.

ifis

June 10th, 2014 at 2:43 PM ^

I am upset about the price of UM student tickets, but Brandon has a legitimate point about student attendance.  Has student government (or anyone else for that matter) provided constructive alternatives for increasing student attendance for the full game?  

P.S. Please refrain from writing 'winning.'

MichIOE01

June 10th, 2014 at 2:51 PM ^

1.  Schedule teams people want to watch

2.  Don't ruin atmosphere with ads and bad music

3.  Keep the things that make the college football experience different (and in my opinion better) than the pro football experience. This includes things the band playing music, not piped in music. 

4.  Incentives to showing up on time, such as have been suggested by Brian and others on this site.  Not incentive such as a t-shirt, which I believe they actually tried.

MGoBender

June 10th, 2014 at 3:10 PM ^

5. Have the old "block seating" based on seniority, but add negatives for people that fail to use tickets, show up late.  Kind of like they're doing now.

6. Price the tickets appropriately.

7. Don't treat the students like idiots.  Don't say things like "We need to improve Wi-Fi because "kids these days" when Wi-Fi was the absolute last thing studnets were concerned with according to the survey.

8. Be competent.  Don't implement any system without accounting for all possibilities.  Don't fuck things up so lines take forever even though the gates are open.

 

 

LiveFromAA

June 11th, 2014 at 8:49 AM ^

...Porikos'  father is a local businessman who is a large supporter of the Michigan Hockey program. 

May have had something to do with his addition to this class.