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By Brian — March 12th, 2009 at 11:38 AM — 17 comments
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Bubblin'. Last night wasn't of huge import on the bubble. Events of note:

  • Nebraska and Notre Dame died.
  • Providence flirted with disaster before pulling it out against DePaul.
  • Texas A&M gacked it up against Texas Tech.
  • Oklahoma State did not against Iowa State.

A&M was only vaguely on the bubble before and isn't in trouble; Bracketology 101 has them a ten seed, and Lunardi has them a nine. So don't get your hopes up there. Oklahoma State has also clinched a bid now.

Today, there is one vastly important game—Michigan versus Iowa—that will either render all of the who-wins-who-loses a sideshow or make it life and death. That's at 2:30 on ESPN2.

Then there is a horde of other stuff as all the big conferences swing into action. Your new favorite team in bold:

  • Providence takes on Louisville at noon (ESPN). Providence needs a win over UL or they're done.
  • Northwestern vs Minnesota, noon (BTN). Northwestern's at-large hopes are very, very faint and a Minnesota loss would stick them behind Michigan permanently.
  • Xavier vs St Louis, noon. The A-10 is in serious danger of coughing up an autobid to a team that wouldn't otherwise be in the field, so you're rooting for Dayton and Xavier whenever they play.
  • Arizona State vs Arizona, 3PM (FSN). Arizona's resume is almost identical to Michigan's; if they lose they're probably behind M no matter what.
  • Texas vs Kansas State, 3PM (ESPN360). Kansas State has vague at-large hopes that must be put to the sword.
  • Indiana vs Penn State, 5PM (ESPN2). Penn State's chances for a bid would evaporate if Indiana managed to beat them.
  • Utah State vs Fresno State, 5:30 PM. Utah State might have an at-large case if they don't pick up the WAC autobid.
  • Duquense vs Rhode Island, 6:30 PM. Rhode Island needs to get to the A-10 final for an at-large, probably.
  • NC State vs Maryland, 7PM (ESPN2). Maryland has fringe hopes with a run in the ACC tourney.
  • Virginia vs Boston College, 9PM (ESPN360). BC would put itself in danger with a loss to the awful Cavs.

Miami and Virginia Tech square off, too, but the outcome of that game doesn't matter, you just want whoever wins to lose to UNC in the next round. San Diego State and UNLV also play; I can't figure out which one is preferable. There are a variety of other games like Memphis-Tulane and Utah-TCU where you want tourney locks to win.

As to Iowa. Michigan, of course, blew a four-point last-minute lead thanks to a couple of questionable calls. In overtime Manny Harris sat and Iowa was unconscious and that was that. And they were missing  their point guard. And most of their big post guy.

Since then Iowa hung in but lost to MSU, lost to Northwestern, came up two points short of killing Ohio State's tourney bid and mortally wounded Penn State's with a 75-67 victory in double overtime. They finished the conference season 5-13 with three of those wins in overtime. This is not a good opponent we're going up against, but that didn't help much last time.

This time around Michigan has one big advantage: it's on a neutral court. Cyrus Tate, who missed both of Michigan's games against Iowa this year*, is back; starting point guard Jeff Petersen "might get some floor time" but is doubtful. With the way Jake Kelly has been playing of late Petersen's absence doesn't seem that important.

UMHoops has a full preview for you; Michigan is favored by 5.5. A liveblog… eh, not so much.

*(Tate did play a few minutes at the end of the game in Iowa City.)

I doubt this is applicable generally since newspapers generally do some investigative journalism in the news department as opposed to the virtually none that happens in sports*, but, man, are web-based properties murdering, burying, and putting up "do not disturb" signs when it comes to the in-depth stuff. Yahoo's latest is a fantastic story on the intersection of agents, AAU coaches, and Kevin Love that has a ton of interesting quotes from both sides of the aisle—former Duke PG and spectacular motorcycle crash victim Jay Williams features, as does love—none of which top this blunt assessment from Love:

“If I was going with an agent,” said Kevin Love, “why would I ever go with a guy who, no offense, but he crashed a motorcycle into a tree. I’m not going to go with a guy that’s reckless.”

Oh, snap. The rest of the article his highly recommended, with Love and Williams calling out Love's AAU coach and the cool quarter-million he banked for his "nonprofit" by setting up a meeting.

*(Except, of course, for the Ann Arbor News and their academics investigation. Of all the programs to get raked over the coals by their local paper, eh? Not, like, you know, Memphis or USC. Michigan. I would freakin' love for every program in the country to have their books gone over so minutely.)

BGSU goodbye? BGSU is facing a massive university-wide budget shortfall of between 6 to 10 million dollars, about $750,000 of which is the athletic department's fault. As a result, BGSU hockey has an uncertain future. The school president already killed Kent State's program at her last job and hockey is an expensive thing to run.

But the hockey team is BGSU's most prominent sport, and the only one in which they can claim a national title. Killing it because it's marginally more expensive would be a shame even if it was responsible for spawning Ron Mason's boring death hockey. It would also eliminate the easiest road trip in the CCHA for Michigan fans, and losing a school with a national title would be terribly embarrassing for the sport in general. About the only entity that might be happy with BGSU's demise is Alabama-Huntsville.

There's a facebook group called Save BGSU Hockey; maybe if more people join it than are fans of Obama they'll reconsider. Only, uh… 5,800,000-some members to go.

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March 12th, 2009 at 12:14 PM | It's a good thing Providence (Score:1)
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It's a good thing Providence pulled out in time. Talk about disaster, those would have been some ugly kids between them and Depaul...

Word

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March 12th, 2009 at 1:31 PM | Cofee. (Score:1)
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Out my nostrils.

It hurts!

M'Dog

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March 12th, 2009 at 12:13 PM | Hooray for today (Score:1)
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I just want to pause for one second and be glad that we even have this minimal amount of excitement. The idea that we "might make the tournament" seems sad on its face, particularly given the fact that Michigan has a pretty solid hoops history. But for today, I'm excitedly excited to be excited. Excitement.

Road Games is another blog

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March 12th, 2009 at 12:15 PM | sad (Score:1)
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about BG. they get pretty good support down there. they don't sellout every game, but a decent turnout.

Harvard: The MICHIGAN of the East

We're not arrogant, we're just better.

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March 12th, 2009 at 12:17 PM | Nice Ann Arbor News reference (Score:1)
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Why are the News and Carty still bragging about this series? They got some hokey small-town paper tenth place ribbon for it, and the bragging started all over again.

They had to lie and cheat to get the info they got, and then the info really isn't jack shit.

I like Carty, but he seems to be waiting for a Pulitzer Prize or something.

And I agree that it would be great to see U$C or O$U get investigated like that. In view of the NCAA's decision to vacate FSU victories for doing a tenth of what either of those schools does, it would be great to see.

I still want to know why O$U and U$C haven't had to vacate NC victories for using Clarett and Bush. The NCAA can use any excuse they want, but the evidence is there. They just don't seem to want to go and get it.

 

 

 

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March 12th, 2009 at 12:25 PM | You LIKE Carty? Get out! Get. (Score:1)
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You LIKE Carty? Get out! Get. The. Fuck. Out.

or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.

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March 12th, 2009 at 12:38 PM | Simple, the NCAA doesn't (Score:1)
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Simple, the NCAA doesn't award a National Championship in FBS. The BCS is a separate entity and before that National Champions determined by the polls were also separate of the NCAA. Simply put, the NCAA has no authority to vacate those titles.

They can, however, vacate win totals because they are NCAA sanctioned games.

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March 12th, 2009 at 12:43 PM | The NCAA does not have subpoena power (Score:1)
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And therefore, can not go and get that evidence.

Dr. Saturday wrote about this. Read.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/You-too-can-...

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March 12th, 2009 at 1:22 PM | Civil Suit? (Score:1)
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So, would it be possible for an individual to bring a civil suit against usc or osu?

That would generate subpoena power and statements under oath in court!

Argument fallacy ad hominem: Attacking a characteristic of the source rather than addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence.

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March 12th, 2009 at 2:54 PM | No. (Score:1)
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For a number of reasons, but most pressingly because an individual would lack standing.

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March 12th, 2009 at 12:38 PM | "Xavier vs St Louis, noon. (Score:1)
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"Xavier vs St Louis, noon. The A-10 is in serious danger of coughing up an autobid to a team that wouldn't otherwise be in the field, so you're rooting for Dayton and Xavier whenever they play."

Except against St. Joe's.

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March 12th, 2009 at 12:39 PM | Was it BGSU hockey that had (Score:1)
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Was it BGSU hockey that had those predominantly brown jerseys? When I saw those brown jerseys with orange text at Yost one time I thought Michigan was playing the Master Mind All-Stars.

(Would the stats for the Master Mind All-Stars feature white pegs for shots that didn't go in and black pegs for goals?)

Sportscenter.com raves: Sgt. Wolverine, "Michigan's biggest fan"!

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March 12th, 2009 at 1:51 PM | Yes, brown pants (Score:1)
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I recall a game at Yost back in the lates 90s where they played BGSU. Michigan got a breakaway and proceeded to fake the BGSU goalie out of his jock, but clanged it off the post.

A Michigan fan behind the goalie then yelled, "No wonder your pants are brown!"

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March 12th, 2009 at 12:42 PM | The desire to make a comment (Score:1)
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The desire to make a comment about our "aircraft carrier" going back in time to just before the "attacks on Pearl Harbor" (Ed Martin Scandal) with the chance to change history is high.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/28/Final_countdown_1980.jpg

Also: If you've never seen that movie, you should.

One of the best non-cheesy time travel movies.

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March 12th, 2009 at 1:16 PM | GOB (Score:1)
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could we get a video of Gob dancing to the final countdown right under the title to this post?

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March 12th, 2009 at 1:22 PM | Dag yo, we gave you Maryland (Score:1)
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Dag yo, we gave you Maryland on a platter and now you want Boston College too?

"We've beaten Michigan the last four years.  So where's the threat?"

- Mark Dantonio

Blogging the Virginia Cavaliers at http://fromoldvirginia.blogspot.com/<

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March 12th, 2009 at 4:23 PM | How generous (Score:1)
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Generally, I think Brian generally goes over the general details of a story well, but sometimes I think that, you know, the idea is lost in a run-on, so you'd be better off saying stuff like "blogging is so amazingly important and the future of all mass media" and "no fair, why does everybody pick on Michigan" to really get the point across for those who don't want to wade through the words.

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