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Brian

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HEALTHING UP WOO

Jake Ryan came back before he was injured. Are we moving Jake Ryan's timetable up? I… maybe?

Joined by @CoachRoyM live on @michiganinsider - "wouldn't be surprised if jake came back sooner (than predicted)"

There are rumblings about the first Big Ten game, which would be crazy.

When you have two quarterbacks, you have no quarterbacks. When you have four, math implodes. Michigan State's nominal starter put up 4.1 YPA in their latest closed scrimmage and their true freshman went 10 of 14 for 240 yards, so a two-way quarterback battle is now a four-way one:

"At the beginning of the scrimmage it was a three-horse race," Dantonio said Monday. "And at the end of the scrimmage, it was a four-horse race."

While you are fretting about uncertainty at guard and safety at least Michigan's quarterback battle is "who wants to get Devin Gardner sandwiches?" Also, Michigan is starting Taylor Lewan at left tackle instead of a former walk-on. LeVeon Bell ain't walking through that door.

Related: in weird news, Hoke told the Michigan insider that Shane Morris was held out of Saturday's scrimmage because they wanted to rest him. Uh?

Meanwhile in Iowa. An open practice(!) leads BHGP to conclude that redshirt sophomore Jake Rudock is likely to throw two-yard hitches on third and seven for the Hawkeyes. Rudock was a three-star out of star-studded Florida powerhouse St Thomas Aquinas a couple years back.

Other bits from Iowa City:

  • Sounds like depth is at a low ebb on defense.
  • Greg Davis has spent most of the offseason smoking opium and drinking absinthe, so Iowa's now a no-huddle shotgun team.
  • True freshman tailback LeShun Daniels is going to play, because he is an Iowa tailback. He is scheduled to be raptured up midseason. Weisman and Damon Bullock also return.

From the comments:

"It looked like a modern-day college football offense."

This… wait, so… but… I can’t… so wait, you mean…. but that’s…. that’s just…. um…. but…. I don’t…. wait, what?

In West Lafayette. Rob Henry is named Purdue's starter, which is amazing because he's a redshirt senior. I don't know if I've ever experienced the opposite of the Brooks Bollinger Eighth Year Memorial Season effect, but it seems like Henry should be much younger. Playing at Purdue == premature aging. Thus all the ACL tears.

In South Bend. The Irish lose Danny Spond to migrane issues. He was a returning starter at the Irish equivalent of SAM.

Another angle. Gardner posted his slant touchdown to Joe Reynolds to instagram:

dg1two's video on Instagram

Johnson is young for his grade, and you know Beilein keeps an eye on that stuff. His coach reports that now that Johnson has "shown a lot of maturity" in the classroom that Michigan is getting more interested. His mom used to play at Wisconsin, but other than that connection it seems Michigan is the local favorite:

“I’ve really got to dissect the program and the way they play (more), but I love Michigan. I’m from Michigan and any time I turn the TV on, if Wisconsin is not playing and Michigan is, I’m rooting for Michigan. It is just a matter if it is going to be a fit for Jay. (It’ll be about) where I feel that Jay is going to get the most development, the most growth, (and has) the people who are going to get on board with Jaylen’s dream, as well as him being an asset to the program.”

Johnson's going to take all five officials, but probably won't use one on Michigan because he's, like, 10 minutes away. Iowa State, Louisville, and Oregon have been scheduled already.

Old school. Newsreels from mgovideo. This, the 1943 Brown Jug game:


1943 Minnesota at Michigan by mgovideo

This from the 1964 Purdue game, narrated by a very, very boring man.


1964 Purdue at Michigan by mgovideo

There's also a half-hour of the 1936 Minnesota game.

It just had to happen to us. This Football Study Hall piece attempts to rank coaching performance relative to recruiting success by taking star average and comparing it to F+, one of those fancy holistic statistical measures that tries to smooth out schedule strength and takes MOV into account. Your #1 recruiting outperformer is the 2012 Kansas State Wildcats.

Of local interest: #2 is… 2007 West Virginia. 2006 West Virginia is 10th. Michigan hires that guy, and that guy turns in the 19th-worst performance of the decade. Cumong, man. No other coach appears in the top and bottom 40. The only other coaches with multiple years in the top 40 are Nick Saban, Bobby Petrino, and Brian Kelly, with Chip Kelly an honorable mention since he was the OC for Mike Belloti.

BONUS: this study makes Rick Neuheisel look like the worst coach of the past ten years. Three of his four UCLA teams finished 12th through 14th-worst, and many of those below him are outfits like Washington State and Colorado, teams whose recruiting profile doesn't really cover how terrible they are.

Etc.: "Forecast: Good." Not so good: David Terrell's situation. More Darboh stuff. I'm not sure if this is the best acronym for a college basketball team right now. IN SG James Blackmon Jr. on Michigan. On the 1977 OSU game.

Comments

Space Coyote

August 19th, 2013 at 3:44 PM ^

But Avery is playing NB, and this is probably why Avery is getting reps at safety. That was a pretty flat-footed bad break on that ball.

Also, 1943 football = Michigan running the single wing = awesome all the time.

alum96

August 19th, 2013 at 7:47 PM ^

Since he cannot be medically redshirted I value any Jake Ryan time we do get but looking at the schedule if he cannot make it back for the 10/12 game vs PSU the next week is Indiana at home - super dazzling offense and al (which we should not need Mr Ryan) and the next week is a bye.  So if not 2nd week of October perhaps better to let him have the next 3 weeks off and come back against MSU.  While it would be preferable to get one game in before said match since the bye is where we'd normally want him to come back to get used to game speed the question is, better to see him get Indiana time and 13 days off after or just all rest and thrown into a rivalry game. Hmm

readyourguard

August 19th, 2013 at 3:54 PM ^

On the Gardner TD pass, Kyle Kalis shows remarkably good footwork by jabbing right, then coming quickly back to his left to block the slanting DL.

Also, the play action really sucks Ross into the line, giving Gardner the widow he needs to hit the deep slant/post.  Good stuff.

 

dragonchild

August 19th, 2013 at 4:23 PM ^

"Hoke told the Michigan insider that Shane Morris was held out of Saturday's scrimmage because they wanted to rest him. Uh?"

Occam's Razor answer is that he has a problem he'd easily bounce back from if he got rest, but if he didn't could get very, very bad.  This could be anything from overuse injury, exhaustion, acute dehydration, heatstroke, emotional stress, food poisoning or a 24-hour bug.  Granted a lot of these problems (especially exhaustion & dehydration) are stuff the coaches would be on the lookout for and others try to avoid, but this is real life so stuff happens sometimes.  The sorts of things you'd ignore if you're playing Ohio tomorrow, but absolutely no reason to burn out your backup QB during practice.  The important thing is that I can think of a half a dozen and, if given time, over a dozen reasons why a kid could sit out a practice yet be back the next day.

Now yes, Hoke DOES tend to play coy with injury, but just because he downplays every injury doesn't mean every injury is way more serious than he's making it out to be.  If Morris stays out for a few more practices, then we can break out the paper bags and antacids.

bronxblue

August 19th, 2013 at 4:27 PM ^

Yeah, not good times.  But of course, that brought about the emergence of HenneRobot...

This just feels like a kid trying to do a million things at one time and the coaches realizing that they really don't have a backup other than him, so no need to overwhelm him too early.  And might be a bit of a boo-boo in there as well.

mGrowOld

August 19th, 2013 at 4:10 PM ^

I have a question for the formation historians out there.  When did the split back sets with the QB under center go completely out of vogue?  If you watch film from about the mid 30's through the early 70's you'll usually see some variation of what used to be termed an offset "Pro Set" offense.  And now you NEVER see it unless the team is taking snaps out of the shotgun.

When did it die? 

NOLA Wolverine

August 19th, 2013 at 4:56 PM ^

The original West Coast coaches seem to really like that formation (and you'll still see it from time to time in the NFL still today, and probably at colleges that nobody cares about) because it gives you a flat receiver to throw it out quickly to and backs hand the ball off to on belly and trap plays with the proper timing. I think the coaching stints of the original guys loosely match up to your time frame for the end of the split back as major formation. 

Space Coyote

August 19th, 2013 at 4:42 PM ^

Borges will still run some split backs occasionally for reasons the poster that first responded to you touched on. But you'll notice almost all plays out of it will be pass plays, lots of which will include swing passes, and draw plays. Lots of HS teams still utilize it because it gets lateral movement from the defense when forward movement tends to be more difficult to take advantage of for HS QBs.

To answer your question directly though, likely sometime in the midish-90s is when you stopped seeing it on a fairly regular basis. Some teams, such as Borges's UCLA teams, still utilized it as a way to involve the RBs in the passing game, but because it was so difficult to run out of (because college and pro defenses don't have as much issue going horizontally) it really started tipping your hand without really giving any benefit. I-form and offset-I started being used more because they sucked defenses in, you could still pass block out of them, and especially with the emergence of offset, the FB could be used on a lot of the quick hitting flat routes, and the TB could still be used in the screen game and on swing routes to some degree.

Essentially, the upside of the I-form was higher than that of the split back set, and with the offset I, the split back was no longer viewed as an optimal formation.

The FannMan

August 19th, 2013 at 5:37 PM ^

No more jumping up and down in piles of other people.  Or at all.

The folks who are responsible for wrapping him in bubble wrap and carrying him around needed to get there more quickly.  (If we don't have people responsible for wrapping him in bubble warp and carrying him around then we need to get some.)

Bobby Digital

August 19th, 2013 at 4:58 PM ^

"As officers were conducting an interview, Terrell struck an officer's hand by reaching over the top of the door and hitting the officer, injuring him"

Am I the only one having a hard time picturing this scene?

Benoit Balls

August 19th, 2013 at 6:38 PM ^

and what I am imagining is a scene where the door was open (perhaps DT was trying to hold it shut or close it on them) and during the fracas he jumped up and smacked someone on top of their head over the top of the door? Maybe he's got a "blunt" nail and it caused some scratching?

Also, "manufacture"? It's like...a plant, Man. You don't build plants. Well, maybe like industrial plants, but not like....wait...what were we talking about?

socrking

August 19th, 2013 at 10:09 PM ^

In response to the Shane Morris resting during the scrimmage comment...my roomate freshman year got mono and it took him almost two years to fully recover and get his stamina back.  Hopefully Shane is able to bounce back faster than that. 

NAVYblues

August 20th, 2013 at 6:14 AM ^

I work in a Navy orthopedic clinic as a corpsman and orthopedic technician. I talked to my surgeon on his thoughts of when a player should return to play after an ACL repair, he said nine months. Biologically, your body takes nine months to repair such an injury, and thats pushing it if you want a fully healthy and recovered knee. a partial tear may take a little less time. even though UM physical therapy methods and equiptment may be state of the art, my doc(who spent time working with the athletes at Annapolis) informed me the human body still takes that amount of time to be fully recovered and ready for game time play. he brought up the case with derrick rose and made the point that rose injured his ACL last spring and still sat on the bench for this entire season and his ability to start next year is still questionable.

wiper

August 20th, 2013 at 10:16 AM ^

leshun daniels is a truck. his dad started at guard at ohio in the mid 90's. comes from the same school (warren harding) as mario, prescott, carl diggs, etc.  i'd be surprised if he played this early, but a lot of people in this area figured he'd be a 25 carry/game type of horse later in his career. kid has legs the size of tree trunks. 

victoriaed90

August 20th, 2013 at 1:50 PM ^

When Hoke said mid-october for Ryan coming back I figured that was a safe bet since he tends to not share a lot information on injuries. But a former coworker of mine was taking a class with Ryan in the spring semester and he said he'd be ready to go in the Fall. This was end of May/beginning of June. I assumed Fall meant begining of the season, but I suppose October is still Fall :\