Tim i agree 110% that NaS is is better. He is also my favorite HipHop MC. It's refreshing to finally have someone agree with me. I also favor the game, common, Lupe fiasco, and gangstarr.
Unmistakably OT: Favorite Hip Hop MCs
I wish he would quit acting.
I love Mos Def, and think he's the best emcee alive. I actually don't mind him acting though. Saw him in a Broadway show a few years back (Top Dog/Underdog) with Jeffrey Wright, and he was actually very impressive.
As for other emcees, I spent my college days obsessed with Outkast's first three albums. Andre Benjamin (in his pre-Andre 3000 days) was the best.
Does no one else appreciate the greatness of Dr. Octagon (a/k/a Kool Keith)?
MF Doom and his multiple personalities
Rain on your college ass disco dorm!
The Wu, the Wu got something that everybody wants to hear. Cuz I know I've been waiting to hear it.
Im real big fan of Drake. His flow if incredible and a breath of fresh air.
His flow *was* a breath of fresh air until the 80,000th time I heard "Best I Ever Had" on the radio this summer. Also, Degrassi...
'The Winner' is an unreal tune. Also, he blew out his knee on stage a couple weeks ago, he's going in for surgery soon.
I much prefer Nas. I've never really gotten into Jay-Z. My personal favorite MC's are Lupe Fiasco, Common, Talib Kweli, Brother Ali, Slug (Atmosphere), and I'm really feelin Wale right now.
eric b and rakim
a tribe called quest
Too many young bucks on this site. "Old Guy Alert"-Everything was better back in the day. You guys need to get acquainted with the past with some Itunes. Nas couldn't hold Rakim's jock with both hands.
LL Cool J
Check out "Follow the Leader" by Eric B & Rakim.
KRS1 is far better than LL. I do agree with your other picks though.
KRS 1 is solid, I think LL is underrated because he went mellow and commercial with the movies and became overproduced. His 1st 2 albumns were very good.
had the MC voice in the 80's-90's. I like the raspy voices. Notorius B.I.G., Rodney O & Joe Cooley, Kurtus Blow. Man I miss the old stuff.
T.I. currently. Historically, Pac, Jay, Biggie, Nas, Tribe (in that order).
In 1990 I saw Vanilla Ice (Rob Van Winkle) open up for MC Hammer at McNichols Arena in Denver. Then over Christmas (2008), he was the half time performer at the Pepsi Center in Denver for the Nuggets vs. Hornets game.
I was with the same person at both events!
I will always have a soft spot for RVW!
UGK 4 life
Wu tang- raekwons new stuff is gonna bring us back to 94
old nas- illmatic is classic
Aceyalone- a book of human language- you don't got it get it.
Drop date is September 9th.
Count Bass D
Black Thought from The Roots is the greatest of all time IMO. He hasn't ever spit a bad verse. But my favorite rapper right now is Blu. He is insane.
no one has mentioned Coner yet. This is just like that time everyone forgot about Dre.
Hahahaha!! If I could give you plus 1 for this, I would.
Fuck y'all. Y'all don't like me, blow me. -Dr. Dre, philosopher
Love the shout out to Wale.
Me: T.I., Jay-Z, Wale.
then Maino, then all the rest.
Been a huge fan ever since I heard Mixtape About Nothing last year.
This summer is the first I've spent time in the DC area, and people really do wear Nike boots! And the chicken at Yums might really be cat! (oblique reference to Wale's professed abstention from cunnilingus)
I listened to some stuff by Common Market, and I liked what I heard. What's a good album to start with?
They only have one real album, Tobacco Road. It's fantastic. They also have an EP called Black Patch War. It's also good, but short. It also repeats some songs on the LP.
that you are the first one to mention L...He is an absolute beast on the mic.
+ 1 thousand billion for embedding "It's so cowwwwwdddd in da d"
The G.O.A.T of Story telling.
For being one of the first to use a live band.
The Knux are definitely worth listening to.
Nas - understand, to me he's like a step below the Beatles
Jay-Z is 2nd
Fugees! I especially love Lauren Hill, includingthe R&B stuff.
Talib, Black Star
Dead Prez, even though I deplore the messages of their songs
Gay fish (aka Kanye West)
I'm trying to find more guys to listen to. I still have to get 36 Chambers and probably all the other Wu-Tang solo albums. I used to like Outkast a bit more but I think I got a little tired of them. Although Ms. Fat Booty is one of my favorite songs, I'm not so much into Mos Def.
Do you like fishsticks?
Great list. Replace Kanye with Del and it would be perfect.
The best IME, in rough order, are Supreme Clientele, OBfCL, Iron Man, Liquid Swords, and Fishscale.
Note that I haven't really ever listened all the way through to the 36 Chambers, or that might be up there too. A case might be made for some of the Bobby Dig albums, especially the first, but I'm not really into the whole self-serious 5%er thing
Cuban Linx, by the way, has one of the best early-vintage Nas verses you're likely to hear on "Verbal Intercourse".
I just got around to checking out your last post from the previous thread... I posted there but figured I may as well post it here too:
W/ respect to Jay-Z's Unplugged album-
That's another reason why I love Jay-Z; he's one of the few rappers who can pull that off. "Can't Knock the Hustle" with Mary J Blige is just soothing.
Big Pun actually had two albums "Yeaah Baby!" was his second. I like both albums, but Capital Punishment is more classic. (He also had a third, compilation album released after his death.) You can catch some of his songs on youtube or listen to clips here. My fav tracks are "Watch Those", "Off with his head". "Leather face" has some samples from the movie Scarface, and is tight. 100% and It's so hard were hits you may recognize.
With Big L - I really prefer his free styles to his album-work, unfortunately his career was cut short. I'm sure you've heard his '98 Free style: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPdevf4bS9w If not, check it out. "Ask beavis, I get nothing Butt-head." Just funny stuff.
Anyone here have any of Nas's unreleased/bonus track/non-album songs? Some of them are awesome. The most famous unreleased track is probably "Silent Murder," and it is quite great. Nas came out with some unreal songs last year that weren't put on the Untitled album. 2 songs in particular: Be a N--- Too and War Is Necessary, which was in GTA 4. I personally think that Untitled suffered a little because it lacked those songs. Also, there another version of No Idea's Original. I think it was originally a bonus track on a European release of It Was Written or I Am...
It Was Written was my favorite NaS album. The verse Foxxy Brown dropped on Affirmative Action was dope as hell. IMO.
Do you listen to Lil Wayne at all?
Zack de la Rocha
The Last Emperor
I really like Del da Funky Homosapien and MF Doom as well as their multiple personalities. Something about mixing hiphop and nerd culture gets me. Not to mention they are both very inventive and at times thought provoking. Illmatic is one of the few albums that I love that exhalts the "street" life. Most hip hop dealing with those topics comes off as trite and lazy. In my native toungue(spanish) theres alot of talent. My favorites being Calle 13, Koxmoz and Mala Rodriguez.
Tha Ruler Rick (Slick Rick)
Big Daddy Kane
Wu Tang Clan
ugk, z-ro, scarface, sean price, common,nas, az, outkast, or almost anyone rappin over dj premier i'll listen to
and if anyone says lil wayne on their list they should be awarded negative eleventy billion points bc he is straight trash
Del Tha Funkee Homosapien
A Tribe Called Quest
De La Soul
Was he the first to rap "I got my mind on my money/money on my mind/finga on the trigga/hand on my 9"? I know that Akon (in a Wyclef song) and someone else have quoted that line. Of course, the first part was in Gin n' Juice.
Blackalicious and Aesop Rock stand apart to me. Their awareness of the human condition and their commentary on our society are well informed. The whole Gorillaz Crew is sick as well.
I agree with the Nas crowd, Illmatic will forever be one of the best albums ever.
Jay Z .. 2pac .. B.I.G ... and as far as now days .. T.I and Wiz Khalifa who is under the radar .. he is from Pitt and his song "thrown" is a fresh sound .. he reminds me of Fiasco a bit
In no paticular order:
and Saul Williams if he even counts
Ma$e - He's making another come back.
Too bad he didn't stick around...
He probably has 4 years of eligibility left, so maybe RR can sign him as a D-line recruit.
So i'm gonna go with 2pac, Big L, and most of Wu Tang.
Also, Cassidy, Blackstarr, and Tribe.
Big L is way under represented on this thread. Hands down, easily top 5 ever. Also Big Punisher should get some recognition. Fantastic ability probably top 12-15 all time.
Jay-Z- better than Nas if only for quite possibly the greatet rap album ever, his debut, Reasonable Doubt. No Nas song can equal "Can I Live" or "D'Evils," or the versatility on "22 two's" and oozing flow on "Cashmere Thoughts." There isnt a week song on the album. His use of different rhyme schemes, the (PRIMO!) beats, and his flow are amazing.
Biggie- as Jigga said if he aint the best hes the closest one. BIG is still unsurpassed in lyricism, flow, and rhyme. Easily better than Pac ever was, and its really impossible to name anyone that surpasses him.
Big L- fantastic flow and lyricism, even beats out Jay-Z (before Jigga had come into his own) on the infamous freestyle. Problem hes not such a great story teller, his images are not as strong. For example, his most famous narrative attempt, "the heist," is fairly week.
Wu Tang- as a group is unstoppable. 36 Chambers is one of the greatest rap albums ever, and thats ignoring the individual work.
Outkast- fantastic funk, best Southern rap available
Nas- amazing of course. As to the Jay-Z debate he has no one song or album that can equal Reasonable Doubt. His flow is choppier and less refined, as are his rhyme schemes. However, its really hard to beat his best stuff like the opening verse to N.Y. State of Mind.
Eminem-for those of you who dont remember or appreciate the D-12 monster, this man used to be outstanding.
Currently, for you Michigan kids Black Milk is worth checking out. Clipse, and the Re-Up Gang are a good listen.
Take out Jay-Z, and throw Tupac in there, and that would sum up my list. Actually, Mos Def should be included as well, as a freestyle rapper he's hard to beat.
Nas - (but i still maintain that I prefer Jay-z)
Grandmaster Flash (yes, i went there.)
Andre3000 (and Big Boi/Outkast)
Eminem (before he got too corny.)
But some less spoken about rappers (some have already been mentioned):
Big L (man could free style.)
The Lox (Specifically Jada Kiss)
Lost Boyz (Renee is prototypical early 90s rap song.)
What ever happened to Canibus? I didn't necessarily like him, but found him at least intriguing.
would be may fave hands down.
After him I like Eminem - old school TRU, old Dre, old 2pac, and old No Limit (P and Silkk mostly).
Good under the radar hip hop would be: Killafornia and the album Bayani
but let me convert some of you plebes now. (Warning: song contains wacky politics and whatnot, still catchy as hell)
Yeah man, "universal truth is not measured in mass appeal!" Rock on!
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