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UM AD Message To Hockey Fans

This message was sent out to hockey season ticket holders:

On Saturday night, the number one team in the nation will be coming to Ann Arbor to play our Wolverines in front of sellout crowd here at Yost with even more hockey fans watching on Fox Sports. The overall fan support, thus far, has been great and we want to make sure our opponents and the television crowd see and hear Yost rock.

With that being said, we believe the fan conduct last week was not appropriate to Michigan standards and will not be tolerated in the future. The actions on the ice do not excuse what was heard or displayed. Just as it is written on the back of your ticket and read during the pre-game announcements, management reserves the right to eject any person whose conduct management deems disorderly, obnoxious, or unbecoming. We will eject, without warning, individuals who use profane language and/or make obscene gestures.

Every game until the end of the season can be considered a playoff game. On the ice, we will do our best to represent every one of you in the great Michigan tradition. We ask you to represent us in the same manner.

Thank you for your cooperation. Go Blue!

Personally, I say fuck that, but I mean, what else could they say?

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January 29th, 2009 at 5:29 PM | What are they going to do? (Score:1)
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Escort the entire student section out?

I get the message, but "disorderly, obnoxious and unbecoming" pretty much describes Yost.

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January 29th, 2009 at 5:35 PM | Yeah.. (Score:1)
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I can't imagine ejecting the loudest fan section is a sound strategy.

"Disorderly" makes me chuckle. When has Yost EVER been "orderly"?

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January 29th, 2009 at 6:27 PM | If an "unbecoming" chant (Score:1)
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If an "unbecoming" chant breaks out and one or more people get tossed from the student section, I think the entire section should stand up and walk out in protest.

Who has been putting out their Kools on my floor?!?!

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January 29th, 2009 at 5:43 PM | when i was at ferris they did (Score:1)
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when i was at ferris they did this. They put multiple police in the student section and removed anyone who started a profane chant, but ferris had a lot of chants where one person would yell something and everyone would respond to, so it was easier to single someone out.

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January 29th, 2009 at 5:47 PM | I believe that they did this (Score:1)
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I believe that they did this at BU (or BC). They put ushers all around the section and even the AD was there to kick kids out. I never heard about how it turned out, but I assume it went well.

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January 29th, 2009 at 5:44 PM | I think that this is actually (Score:1)
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I think that this is actually a good thing. It helps to reassure families that what happened last weekend won't be tolerated. You must keep in mind that while this is a collegiate event, it is also a place that kids go as well. The FYS chant, while appropriate at the time, is not something that should be done again. There are many more articulate ways to express yourself than Fuck. It is something that I would expect at a State game, as they are just liquored up idiots. There needs to be some form of class in the rink. I know from years of going to the game that the C-Ya cheer and its "after-parts" are undecipherable to people not in the student section. We need to be loud, of course, but we should not lower ourselves to the lows of another FYS type cheer.

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January 29th, 2009 at 5:49 PM | Like Brian said... (Score:1)
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FYS was not a low. FYS was the perfect expression of rage at that moment. No matter if it is inappropriate in the future, it was not a low.

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January 29th, 2009 at 5:54 PM | Thank you (Score:1)
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I was very disappointed with the chant, whether it was appropriate or not for the moment.

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January 29th, 2009 at 5:57 PM | Andy Griffith Fan? (Score:1)
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How was this afternoon's Matlock re-run?

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January 29th, 2009 at 6:36 PM | Look, while it was a devilish (Score:1)
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Look, while it was a devilish act, and the FYS was appropriate in the moment, looking back it was not. There are kids present, and while I myself probably would have joined in, it is not OK to do that. Brian may have thought it was appropriate, and that is his opinion, but just because he writes it does not make it the word of God. I think that if it is heard again, or anything of that type for that matter, the ushers WILL kick out many people. I also think they will boot the band if they partake as well.

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January 29th, 2009 at 10:29 PM | You're one of those "down in (Score:1)
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You're one of those "down in front" people, aren't you?

Who has been putting out their Kools on my floor?!?!

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January 29th, 2009 at 6:01 PM | Chump, dick, wuss, douchebag, (Score:1)
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Chump, dick, wuss, douchebag, asshole, prick, cheater, bitch, whore, slut dingleberry, Spartan...

...

Sorry for saying 'Spartan'

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January 29th, 2009 at 6:02 PM | P.S. (Score:1)
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When saying the last part, the older folks can hear you better if you make sure you face them.

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January 29th, 2009 at 6:44 PM | Umm, if you are being (Score:1)
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Umm, if you are being sarcastic I apologize, but if not you are one of the reasons they had to send this out. If the cuss words are heard, it becomes an issue. Parents don't want to go to games for their kids to hear bad words. WHo do you think the AD will side on, the kids who swear or the rest of the rink? Even Red wants it to stop, as he hates the cheers and vulgarity. So please, just say it and move on, don't intentionally try to piss people off.

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January 30th, 2009 at 4:42 PM | I humbly disagree (Score:1)
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I hear you Patty.

I used to go to camp in the summers, and after each session, we'd come home swearing like sailors. Most of that was picked up in the cabin, but during meals there were camp cheers that bordered or went beyond what a stuffy prig would want their the precious ears of THE CHILDREN beholding...

"Farmer Brownie had a dog and Penis was his Name-O"

"Psycho Killer, Qu'est-ce que c'est? Fa fa fa fa...."

"Scrotum, Scrotum, S.C.R.O.T.U.M." (and variations)

"Hey senior girls, you're just like the [item on dinner menu]. You [sexually explicit double entendre]"

Then, a few parents got sick of it, and since they paid the bills, the following year, Farmer Brownie's dog's name changed to Bingo, and believe me the camp director looked pretty dumb trying to start it up after never taking part in the predecessor song for all those years. As for the rest of the songs, the counselors made it very clear that they were banned. Taboo. Never existed.

1984, six years late.

Personally, I love Michigan hockey's penalty cheer. I loved that cheer when I was a student, and want it to continue forever.

The penalty box cheer is old enough now that I think it's actually become tradition. I can't defend it as something I'd want my hypothetical children to hear. But I can tell you that in its way, it is special.

In Afghanistan under the Taliban, the only acceptable cheer at a soccer match was "G-d is great." In the NHL, "The Good Old Hockey Game" has a corporate sponsor. Where's the meaning in that anymore?

A real student cheer almost has to have swearing in it, because that prevents it, as has happened with virtually every other tradition in sports, from being hijacked by the promoters. I'm all in favor of people making a buck, but there's also something great about a cheer that's purely and incontrovertibly a student original. Until you go to a game, you will have no knowledge of the cheer, since M can never print it in a program or a new student orientation packet. Its unimpeachable authenticity then, I think, is that cheer's greatest value.

It also makes Yost a harder place to play. I don't have stats, but word around the NCAA for the last two decades places the old barn among the greatest home ice advantages. That's not just because the building is old, or because there's photos of Red on the walls. It's because if you're the visitor, then you're going to get called names, especially when you're already feeling down for causing a penalty. In fact, I remember a psychology student around during my time would talk about a study where she suggested that repetition of the word "sieve" to an opposing goalie has a good chance of negatively affecting his performance.

I never saw the study. But I don't doubt that the Yost cheers, so long as they're kept inside the barn, are a boon to the team.

Now, imagine that cheer is gone. An opposing player is being escorted to the box. Mouths open, but eyes are turned toward the security guards, and words don't come. In the vacuum, a solitary voice who hasn't gotten the memo begins: "Chump..." and instantly security is on him and he's being dragged outside. The crowd is cowed.

The world has all sorts of things in it that are truly disgusting. Rude words at a hockey game, passed on from one class to the next, is just part of the hockey game ambiance. The students get a kick out of it. And unlike camp, those who don't like the rude cheers don't make a significant fiscal impact.

Nobody I've ever met goes to see Michigan hockey for the family atmosphere. It's supposed to be about students and student-allied alumni unwelcoming to newcomers. Not every corner of the Earth needs to be sanitized for the precious ears of the children. Not every adult word and thought must be banished to the dark corners of society. Sometimes it's okay to just tolerate a little edginess, not because it's art, not because it's a private forum where such speech is officially approved, but because, fuck it, it's just a fucking college hockey game.

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January 29th, 2009 at 6:46 PM | Like this is the first email (Score:1)
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Like this is the first email y'all have gotten about offensive language at Yost? Personally I'm quite surprised that we even got an email. I figured they had stopped the practice since we took "cocksucker" out of the C-Ya chant in 2006. We haven't gotten any emails since then. I honestly thought we'd get one for the "racist" chant when Scooter got a penalty. Congratulations to all, and a job well done.

Remember, you're not cheering properly unless the Athletic Department tells you off.

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January 29th, 2009 at 7:14 PM | they try this every year. it (Score:1)
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they try this every year. it never works. thank fucking god

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January 29th, 2009 at 7:25 PM | Our AD in HS would not let (Score:1)
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Our AD in HS would not let you chant anything that might hurt the other teams feelings. He said that anything mean said to a player on the opposing team would be suspended from school. So the students started chanting "We Don't Like our AD" and "We have to be nice to you". Then when that was banned they just chanted "Our AD sucks". Since that was at a sold-out game against the cross-town rival, he has left students alone from then on.

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January 29th, 2009 at 7:41 PM | in case you're wondering what actually happens (Score:1)
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when they actually take action (they may think the email is enough):

sometimes they get non-student narcs in the crowd and most often they just kick out a couple kids to make a show of it. people typically shut up at that point.

...the Canadians make up for it with their emotion and classic ice-dancing skill.

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January 29th, 2009 at 8:04 PM | i read somewhere (mightve (Score:1)
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i read somewhere (mightve been here) that they ejected a whole row during FYS.
also, i cant blame the AD for sending this out. i'm sure they got about a billion emails from people upset about FYS. i cant blame people being offended by it either but i still think it was appropriate. i just hope the student section has calmed a little bit since last weekend

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January 30th, 2009 at 2:03 AM | If Michigan students are anywhere near as smart (Score:1)
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as they think they are, it shouldn't be too hard to come up with stuff that doesn't require profanity to be effective in a public venue with children around.


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January 30th, 2009 at 9:52 AM | I agree with Don. There's no (Score:1)
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I agree with Don.

There's no reason for anyone to be yelling "FYS" at any time. Not when children are guaranteed to be present. It doesn't matter if State took a run at one of our players. "FYS" doesn't change anything. What changes the way State plays is by losing the game, getting physically manhandled, and having the offending players get suspended for a long time.

I've said this before on here: actions speak louder than words. "FYS" does nothing except tarnish (slightly) the image of UM and its hockey fans and teach kids that swearing at the opponent is okay as long as they did something you don't like.

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January 30th, 2009 at 10:33 AM | A solution (Score:1)
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U of M should build a huge sound deadening penalty box around the student section. Problem solved and the students can say what ever they want.

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January 30th, 2009 at 1:40 PM | paula c weston is going to (Score:1)
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paula c weston is going to have a conniption if she hears anything more than gosh darn it

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