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By Ace — May 1st, 2012 at 12:09 PM — 20 comments
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Note: I'm getting error messages like whoa from 247Sports, so I can't access some of the tabs I had saved for this post. Apologies in advance if something gets left out; if you notice anything glaring that I've overlooked, let me know in the comments (and, if you can, please link to an original source of information).

Recruiting: Now Reaching Ludicrous Speed

"They've gone to plaid!"

I doubt this fact will surprise many Michigan fans, but the pace at which players are committing in the 2013 recruiting cycle appears to be unprecedented. SBNation's Jason Kirk—co-host of the incomparable Shutdown Fullback—took a look at early commitments in the past few years, and even in that short time span there's a very clear trend:

Over the past three years, the nation's top 75 recruiting teams have averaged about three commitments at this point in the year, though that doesn't include decommitments. Right now, they're averaging more than five.

And, of course, the main case in point is Michigan [emphasis mine]:

The big story is the Michigan Wolverines, whose 17 commits make for more than they've had in any combined two years of the Rivals era, and, thus, probably ever. It's noteworthy that Brady Hoke was the Big Ten coach most supportive of Urban Meyer back during Recruit-TakingGate. But almost across the board, schools are getting more and more early commitments.

The Wolverines had six commitments through April 30th for the 2012 class, and just three in 2011.

Kirk doesn't spend much time examining why this is the case, and I don't want to spoil tomorrow's recruiting roundtable podcast (yes, there's a podcast!) in which this very topic is discussed at length. One point I will make, however, is that the greatly increased attention on recruiting from both traditional and non-traditional media has placed enough stress on recruits that I believe many decide to end the process in part to get out of the increasingly-bright spotlight.

That brings me to IL RB Ty Isaac, who had an extensive profile in CSNChicago giving the latest on his recruitment [emphasis mine]:

"I took unofficial visits in March, when it worked out for my parents," he said. "Now my visits are out of the way. Nothing else is planned now. To be honest, I don't know if I will visit any more schools. Some have asked me to visit. But if I don't have any interest, I don't want to waste either side's time. If the schools I have visited, I'd be perfectly fine to go to either one of them."

However, he is sure of one thing at the moment. "I'm not a fan of the recruiting process at all. When I started, like everybody, I was excited. After you get the first couple of offers, you know you will have an opportunity to play at the next level. But now it gets overwhelming. It feels like it never stops," he said.

Isaac's apparent lack of interest in taking visits to new schools bodes well for Michigan. More trips to places like Notre Dame and USC could still be in the cards, but he's already seen those campuses and the Wolverines have remained in a strong position to land him. Also, given his justifiable disdain for the recruiting process, it wouldn't be a surprise to see him wrap things up in the near future—Isaac still maintains no public timetable.

Thomas Firmly Committed, New Offers, Etc.

While OH S Dymonte Thomas has remained steadfast in his insistence that he's firmly committed to Michigan, it's been difficult to keep a lid on discussion that he could still end up joining his cousin Bri'onte Dunn at Ohio State. In a two-part feature($) by GoBlueWolverine's Josh Newkirk, Thomas reiterates that he's "100-percent committed." In addition, we could see Thomas in Ann Arbor pretty soon, which would finally end any rumors about him flipping to the Buckeyes:

Thomas also plans on starting his Michigan career as early as possible. He is currently awaiting the results of his ACT test scores. He said he should receive the results within the next three to five weeks.  If he receives passing test scores, Thomas said he will graduate early and enroll at Michigan next January.

Any doubt that Thomas ends up as a Wolverine can probably be dispelled at this point. Ohio State insiders don't like their chances and the Buckeyes continue to target other safeties for the class.

Michigan sent out a few new offers this week, and one is NOTY-worthy: 2013 NY DE Ebenezer Ogundeko is a three-star prospect to every service but Scout (who currently has him unrated), but his recruitment is picking up serious steam, as he received unexpected offers from Michigan, Notre Dame, and Marshall on the same day ($). According to Scout, Ogundeko also holds offers from Alabama, Arizona State, Boise State, Florida, Georgia Tech, and Ohio State, among several others, so he could be a guy who makes a rapid rise up the rankings; those offers aren't the type you'd expect for a guy on the three-star/unranked borderline.

The Wolverines also offered a trio of 2014 prospects. AZ OT Casey Tucker is getting early interest from several of the nation's top programs and could be one of the top linemen in his class. IL CB Parrker Westphal (first name: not a typo) picked up his first two offers from Michigan and West Virginia this week. Tim Sullivan reports on The Fort($) that Michigan has also offered FL DB Javon Harrison, who could play corner or safety at 6'2", 195 pounds.

Quickly: The soft-spoken MD DT Henry Poggi on his Alabama trip ($): "It was good." TomVH reports that Michigan is getting interest from consensus four-star FL S Leon McQuay III, who plans to visit on May 18th ($). VA DE Wyatt Teller is planning a decision in the late spring or early summer, and Michigan is in his tentative top five ($). OH CB Darian Hicks has yet to receive an offer, but says Michigan would be "extremely high on [his] list" if they do ($). Hicks will camp at Michigan this summer. Jerry Montgomery almost certainly had to put up a fight in order to secure Hawaii as part of his recruiting territory. Happy trails to OH WR Rob Wheelwright, who committed to Wisconsin over the weekend.

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May 1st, 2012 at 12:37 PM | Recruiting process (Score:5 Normal)
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I don't think most of us really appreciate how stressful and time consuming the recruiting process is. If you're a national recruit, you're dealing with upwards of 10-15 coaches contacting you (which is regulated by the NCAA), but then the media requests (traditional, but more and more recruiting blogs) have to become mind numbinlgy maddening. For Michigan alone, you're going to have rivals / scout / espn / 247 / MGoBlog / TTB / Aquaman / a handful of others contacting you. Multiply that by all of the schools you're talking to, and you have to start being scared to look at your phone. I trust that Ace / TomVH et al are being repesctful, but the sheer volume alone has to be enough to drive anyone crazy.

 

 

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May 1st, 2012 at 12:48 PM | Ludicrous...he's the true KING of the south. (Score:2 Normal)
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Pull the trigger Ty...GO BLUE!

Lucky enough to have my own JT wristband!!

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May 1st, 2012 at 1:07 PM | Interesting bit about Dymonte (Score:2)
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Interesting bit about Dymonte Thomas. 

I actually just got out of my DeLorean time machine where I was attending Michigan's *2017* spring commencement where Dymonte Thomas was scheduled to get his degree before flying off to attend the NFL draft.  It was kinda a long wait so I was surfing the internet on my phone and according to Alex at Eleven Warriors "There's still a pretty good chance that Dymonte may flip to the good guys; anything can happen once Urban gets you on campus :)"

Former Buckeye Antonio Pittman on being a poster child for compliance: "This osu tattoo stuff is silly. Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in '01."

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May 1st, 2012 at 1:08 PM | Hate to kill all the fun you (Score:5 Normal)
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Hate to kill all the fun you guys have with the Thomas thing, but Alex is one of the Buckeye insiders I'm referring to. Talked to him yesterday before the podcast and he thinks OSU's chances of getting Thomas are slim-to-none at this point.

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May 1st, 2012 at 2:58 PM | Thanks Ace.  He must have (Score:1)
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Thanks Ace.  He must have changed his tune.  He seemed confident that Osu would flip him.  There was post on 4/13 that said as much.  I guessed he changed his feeling fairly recently.

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May 1st, 2012 at 1:17 PM | Fair enough; we kid because (Score:2)
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Fair enough; we kid because we love* and to be honest Alex actually has been right about most of his predictions.  (Urban Meyer and OSU's facilities sadly are not a hard sell for many recruits.)

* loathe

Former Buckeye Antonio Pittman on being a poster child for compliance: "This osu tattoo stuff is silly. Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in '01."

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May 1st, 2012 at 2:42 PM | I don't loathe. I'm glad 11W's out there. (Score:2)
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It's not really a rivalry if there's too large of a talent disparity, so I'm glad there's an intelligent, creative blog for Ohio State.

Formerly 'mgoblaniel.'

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May 1st, 2012 at 3:02 PM | It's all done out of love. (Score:2)
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May 1st, 2012 at 1:32 PM | If Ty is so tired of the (Score:5 Normal)
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If Ty is so tired of the recruiting process, he should just commit to Michigan and get it over with. =)

John 14:6 - Jesus said " I am the way the truth and the life, no one comes to the father except through me."

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May 1st, 2012 at 2:50 PM | I'd say your logic about recruits getting tired of the.... (Score:3 Normal)
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recruiting process as being a major cause of the trend of early commitments is spot on.  The sheer volume of annoying phone calls, text messages, tweets, mail, media scrutiny, etc, etc, etc, must get pretty intolerable to a lot of kids.  Still, Michigan must be taking a particularly intense approach to the process to have garnered this many commitments so early.  I've followed recruiting for many years, and there was never a year even close to this one in terms of early commits. 

"You owe it to every man, woman, and child in the State of Michigan to beat the Buckeyes and silence their fans!  Now go out there and make it happen!"

- Bo Schembechler (Result: U-M 22  OSU 0)

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May 1st, 2012 at 3:05 PM | Ebenezer Ogundeko is the real (Score:1)
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Ebenezer Ogundeko is the real deal...Players coming from NYC often get underrated on the recruiting sites but as his offer sheet shows (Alabama, Florida, Stanford, Ohio State, Notre Dame are just a few), he could be a fast riser...His highlights show he has great ability.

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May 1st, 2012 at 3:08 PM | Recruiting roundtable (Score:3 Normal)
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Is this an mgoblog podcast?

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May 1st, 2012 at 3:19 PM | Yes, though you'll have to (Score:4 Normal)
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Yes, though you'll have to live with me hosting the proceedings. Should be posted tomorrow. Alex from 11W and Jeff Junstrom of Black Shoe Diaries are the guests—we're making this a recurring thing, with our respective sites alternating as hosts.

"Recruiting Ninja" | Email | Twitter

 

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May 1st, 2012 at 3:27 PM | Awesome! Keep the podcasts (Score:2 Normal)
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Awesome! Keep the podcasts coming

I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?

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May 1st, 2012 at 3:34 PM | Awesome, I'm envisioning a (Score:2)
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Awesome, I'm envisioning a "McLaughlin Group" style discussion. I hope to hear a stentorian Ace making bold predictions.

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May 1st, 2012 at 8:59 PM | A new podcast! How (Score:2)
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A new podcast! How wonderful.

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May 1st, 2012 at 3:11 PM | If I was a top recruit and (Score:3 Normal)
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If I was a top recruit and Saban started recruiting me, I'd make him beg me. I would totally degrade the man in front of my family.

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May 1st, 2012 at 3:21 PM | Looks like Ogundeko is a (Score:1)
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Looks like Ogundeko is a package deal with Augustus Edwards, a RB...They look to be close friends...

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May 1st, 2012 at 4:03 PM | The sheer volume of annoying (Score:2)
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The sheer volume of annoying phone calls, text messages, tweets, mail, media scrutiny, etc, etc, etc, must get pretty intolerable to a lot of kids. Still, Michigan must be taking a particularly intense approach to the process to have garnered this many commitments so early. I've followed recruiting for many years, and there was never a year even close to this one in terms of early commits.

Your point is well taken and is one that will resonate with anyone who's ever had to make any major purchase at any big box store - which is to say, all of us. 

That actually reminds me of something a friend told me while working as a windows salesman.  He told me that the trick is letting the customer sell the product to himself.  (I purchased several vinyl windows from his company for my house)

I haven't followed recruiting as closely as many here have, but it seems like that's part of what Hoke and the other coaches are doing.  The camaraderie, Sugar Shane's twitter account and Michigan tradition+facilities are all in place.  To some extent, Hoke can let the recruiting pitch organically happen on its own and in essence lets Michigan sell itself.  It comes across as confident and straightforward and doesn't have the air of a lounge-lizard with a comb-over trying to score digits before last call.  Certainly other coaches with top-notch programs do this* as well, but this year no one's come close to capitalizing on positive recruiting momentum like Hoke has.d

(* by 'this' I mean letting your school sell itself, not crusing in singles bars.  Sorry if I confused you, Bobby P.)

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May 2nd, 2012 at 8:31 PM | DE Ebenezer Ogundeko (Score:0)
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MGoPoints: 31

He hasn't been offered by Michigan, I just talked with him. His coach meant to release Marshall but released Michigan. 

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