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Today's recruiting roundup covers Michigan commits as they progress through high school playoff season, USC's latest decommitment and its possible impact on Leon McQuay III, an emerging name along the offensive line, and more.

Jake Butt: TE/DE/OC?

Michigan commits and cross-town rivals faced off for the second time this season as Jake Butt's Pickerington North squad took on Taco Charlton and Pickerington Central in the first round of Ohio's Division I playoffs on Saturday; the result was similar to their first meeting of the year, as North once again shut out Central, this time 24-0, to advance to the next round. Butt was the star for North, even calling his own number to tally a 29-yard score:

“It’s called a hitch-and-go, and he threw me the perfect pass,” said Butt, who had five catches for 122 yards. “I’d been seeing that the play was open throughout the entire game.”

“Jake Butt called that play,” North coach Tom Phillips said. “He saw it and I said, ‘Just be patient.’”

The future Wolverine tight end also tallied a tackle for loss on defense as North held Central to a paltry 93 yards of total offense.

Elsewhere in Ohio's opening playoff round, cornerback commit Ross Douglas rushed for 262 yards and three touchdowns on 30 carries, with 212 of those yards coming in the second half, as Avon pulled out a 28-11 victory over Perrysburg. Ben Gedeon carried the ball 18 times for 104 yards and two scores to lead Hudson to an upset over three-seed Canton GlenOak. Gareon Conley—yes, still a commit at this moment—had TD catches of 28 yards and one yard and also scored on a reverse as Massillon defeated Nordonia 63-34.

In Division II action, both Mike McCray (36-yard TD, video here) and Jaron Dukes (5 catches, 66 yards, 1 TD) recorded touchdown receptions as both Trotwood-Madison and Marion-Franklin moved on to the second round with blowout victories. Junior commit Michael Ferns caught touchdowns of 14 and 35 yards for St. Clairsville, which defeated Harrison Central 41-6 in the first round of the Division IV playoffs.

Seasons ended for a pair of Ohio commits, unfortunately, as a banged-up Dymonte Thomas was limited to 79 rushing yards in a 38-0 loss to Poland, while DeVeon Smith's 147 yards and two touchdowns on 22 carries weren't enough to overcome Chardon in a 42-16 first-round defeat.

Cass Tech's Jourdan Lewis hauled in a 43-yard touchdown catch in a 42-23 district final win over Dearborn more noteworthy for the work of two running backs—junior Gary Hosey had 143 yards and two scores on 15 carries, while sophomore Mike Weber toted the rock 20 times for 178 yards and a TD. In another Division I district final, Wyatt Shallman had nine tackles, three TFLs, three sacks, and several QB hurries from his defensive end spot in a 45-17 win over Walled Lake Northern, according to his father.

Tim Sullivan caught Malik McDowell in action as Detroit Loyola defeated University Liggett, 50-7, last weekend, and he has free video and a scouting report available over at The Wolverine. McDowell tallied four sacks, all in the first half.

[For the rest of the roundup, including the latest on Leon McQuay III, hit THE JUMP.]

USC: Lose A Safety, Gain The Edge For McQuay?

USC has long been presumed to be very much in the mix—and possibly the leader—for FL DB Leon McQuay III, but they've been full with 18 commits in a sanction-limited class. They're full no more, as CA ATH Max Redfield—expected to play safety for the Trojans—decommited on Sunday night. It didn't take long for McQuay to set up an official visit to USC for December 7th; he'll be in Ann Arbor this weekend and also has taken officials Vanderbilt and Oregon. While Tremendous notes that USC would have tried to take McQuay regardless of Redfield's status—several other Trojan commits are looking around—the timing of him setting up the visit is noteworthy; this could be a double whammy for Michigan as Redfield currently favors Notre Dame, as well.

Etc.

Tremendous also has an update on the offensive line situation, as they caught up with MD OL Na'Ty Rodgers—Michigan has been in contact with the four-star since David Dawson decommited, and while they still haven't offered there appears to be mutual interest, with Rodgers planning to set up a visit after his season. South Carolina currently leads for him, but the situation could alter if the Wolverines come through with an offer.

Another name to watch on the offensive line is FL five-star Laremy Tunsil, a prospect we haven't heard about for quite some time. Sam Webb posted on The Victors Board that Michigan is back in contact with Tunsil and the behemoth tackle has shown some interest, even considering a visit for the Iowa game($); while that would be great news, Michigan is still an extreme longshot, with Alabama and Georgia considered the two favorites.

Allen Trieu caught 2014 OL offeree Tommy Doles in GRC's game against Zeeland West($), saying he's "another who has to add a little weight, but he is a technician with great footwork, knee bend and smarts." Michigan appears to hold an early edge for Doles.

Rivals named 2014 VA S Quin Blanding, who recently named Michigan to his top ten, as one of their early five-stars in the junior class.

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November 6th, 2012 at 12:55 PM | well (Score:2 Normal)
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I for one, am going to now get my hopes irrationally up for Larry Tunsil.

Combine him with the new Chicago recruit and thats about 700 lbs and 13 feet of man there.

Be the change, I want you to be.
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November 6th, 2012 at 1:08 PM | We have to have at least one (Score:1)
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We have to have at least one recruit to have irrational high hopes for.  Each year there is at least one heartbreaker, I think.  Dee Hart is the only one that really sticks out to me at the moment but the true recruiting experts here could probably tell you which one or two there have been each year.

Disgruntled former moderator.  I got a lot of problems with you people!

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November 6th, 2012 at 1:30 PM | Josh Garnett. An OG who (Score:3 Normal)
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Josh Garnett. An OG who looked like he was coming to UM, ended up at Stanford and, I believe, is actually starting for them at OG as a true frosh. That one reaaaalllly hurts as UM could use him badly.

We ARE Michigan....COME GET SOME!!!

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November 6th, 2012 at 1:37 PM | Terrelle Pryor? (Score:3 Normal)
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He broke our hearts.  In recruiting, and on the field.

And then he sort of made up for it by being, uhm, Terrelle Pryor.  Sometimes the recruiting "heartbreaks" turn out OK, just like heartbreaks in life.

  • "Of course I care about that stuff.  To the point of irrationality.  It will always be Michigan first, cancer second."  Jim Mandich (RIP)
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November 6th, 2012 at 1:42 PM | With the benefit of (Score:3 Normal)
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With the benefit of hindsight, I think the real heartbreaker with Pryor would have been if M did land him.

Your friendly neighborhood contrarian.

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November 6th, 2012 at 6:50 PM | I sympathize with your point, (Score:1)
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I sympathize with your point, but it seems to be based on an assumption that Pryor's behavior wasn't affected by OSU's culture, and wouldn't have been affected by UM's. Perhaps we should doubly lament missing on Pryor, not only regarding his athletic talents, but also his character.

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November 6th, 2012 at 1:40 PM | I had irrationally high hopes (Score:1)
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I had irrationally high hopes for all of those Florida guys. 

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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November 6th, 2012 at 1:56 PM | Latwan Anderson, Lamarcus (Score:4 Normal)
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Latwan Anderson, Lamarcus Joyner, Dillon Baxter, Sharrif Floyd, Marcus Hall, Will Hill, Sam Montgomery, Barkevious Mingo, Jelani Jenkins...

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November 6th, 2012 at 2:19 PM | you forgot... (Score:2)
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Jai Eugene. 

Florida Wolverines have dreadlocks...

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November 6th, 2012 at 2:18 PM | There are so many over the years, where do you start? (Score:2)
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How about (I hate to even bring him up again on this board) RoJo - Ron Johnson from Muskegon who ended up at USC.  And then there's the infamous Myron Rolle who Carr thought was a done deal and then FSU steals him somehow at the last second. 

"You owe it to every man, woman, and child in the State of Michigan to beat the Buckeyes and silence their fans!  Now go out there and make it happen!"

- Bo Schembechler (Result: U-M 22  OSU 0)

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November 6th, 2012 at 1:03 PM | Ok. (Score:4 Normal)
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Hoke, all you have to do at this point is sign McQauy, Treadwell, Green, Rodgers, and Blanding and Webb next year and I'll start to consider you a closer.

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It was cool and dewy.

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November 6th, 2012 at 4:13 PM | Disappointment awaits (Score:1)
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Looking near term, the prospects for the '13 kids you mention have dimmed considerably.  Seems like the rule of thumb is that if a prospect has resisted committing this long, chance are it's an indication Michigan is really not where they want to be.

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November 6th, 2012 at 4:46 PM | You could say that about all (Score:4 Insightful)
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You could say that about all the schools those kids are considering.

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November 6th, 2012 at 1:08 PM | Wait, USC had a player decommit? (Score:2 Normal)
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Was it because of Hoke's visit policy?  Because I thought that was the only reason any player decommits in college football....

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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November 6th, 2012 at 1:10 PM | Minor correction (Score:1)
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Doles plays for GR Christian, not GR Catholic Central.



Thanks for the updates, Ace!

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November 6th, 2012 at 1:35 PM | Shallman (Score:1)
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Is the guy really for really going to be a RB at Michigan? Does he have more potential at defensive end?

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November 6th, 2012 at 1:43 PM | I think there are arguments (Score:1)
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I think there are arguments that can be made for both sides.  As far as we know, right now, the coaches want him at RB.

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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November 6th, 2012 at 1:49 PM | Can't recall as of now where (Score:1)
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Can't recall as of now where Shallman said it, but recently he told an analyst he is being recruited as an athlete. Possibly with his production at DE, they can see a future, but he should get a shot at RB. 

HOKE SMASH.

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November 6th, 2012 at 1:58 PM | Well, you haven't started (Score:4 Normal)
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Well, you haven't started paying ENOUGH attention, because then you would know that high star ratings correlate to production in college (although obviously it's not guarantee).  A 5-star like Gilbert is more likely to pan out than 4-stars or 3-stars...

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November 6th, 2012 at 1:58 PM | Kris Frost (Score:1)
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He would have been a huge pickup. We were the favorite for awhile. I think he was in Hart's class.

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November 6th, 2012 at 1:59 PM | Yeah, he was in the 2011 (Score:2)
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Yeah, he was in the 2011 class.

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November 6th, 2012 at 2:13 PM | I can't believe no one (Score:2 Normal)
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I can't believe no one mentioned Stefon Diggs yet... can we still land him???

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November 6th, 2012 at 2:26 PM | Alex Cozan! (Score:1)
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Alex Cozan!

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November 6th, 2012 at 3:27 PM | RoJo (Score:0 Redundant)
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RoJo

What every longshot, come from behind, underdog will tell ya is this... The other guy, may in fact, be the favorite. The odds may be stacked against you, fair enough. But what the odds don't know is...this isn't a math test.

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November 6th, 2012 at 6:02 PM | Can't forget EJ Levenberry, (Score:1)
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Can't forget EJ Levenberry, that really hurt as I thought Michigan had him wrapped up until FSU came with the snake oil or something like it!

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won't be mine. … Quote it. Let them
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November 6th, 2012 at 3:32 PM | Anyone else notice Dymonte (Score:2)
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Anyone else notice Dymonte had to play Poland?  That not fair at all.

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day. 

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November 6th, 2012 at 3:40 PM | But the fact that an Ohio (Score:4 Normal)
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But the fact that an Ohio high school was able to hold an entire country to 38 points is pretty impressive.

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November 6th, 2012 at 3:43 PM | I guess we now know the (Score:3 Normal)
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I guess we now know the answer to "How many Polacks does it take to beat Marlington?"

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November 6th, 2012 at 4:01 PM | Oh (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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Every other player we're considering is irrelevant. These average linebackers and linemen we're trying to get will eventually lead us to the "OH" so familiar feeling of ... "why dont we have athletes like OSU? or every other team in the entire NCAA?"  Im tired of Michigan going after these non-athletic garbage players that everyone sees as a "safe option". NO!!!! We need athletes and pure blooded football players.  We need to set all our sights on McQuay and Treadwell, if we dont sign both of them ill consider this years recruiting class a fail.  We have just enough to get by and not enough to be a relevant contender.  There is absolutely no excuse for Hoke not to sign those two.  Seems like every team in the top 10 classes has at least 1 or more true athletes and stars on either side of the ball. Whos our star? Besides Morris. USC coming off all those sanctions and they still manage to have the #1 recruiting class and sign players like Cravens, gain high interest from McQuay and sign the #2 QB Max Browne. Theres no excuse for Michigan who is argueably the most prestigious team in history.  Signing McQuay and Treadwell can get us back on track to being Elite. Anything else is Horsesh#t!!

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November 6th, 2012 at 4:22 PM | Is this a joke? This better (Score:4 Normal)
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Is this a joke? This better be a joke. What "athletes" does OSU's class have that we don't have? They have Burrows, we have Dymonte. We have Ben Gedeon and Mike McCray. We have incredible O and D linemen. We have a top QB.

Why am I even biting on this, I don't know. We have a great class. We can't compete with OSU? We have a better class than they do.

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November 7th, 2012 at 10:34 PM | Its sad i have to say this (Score:-1 Trolling)
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Its sad i have to say this because im a die hard of all die hard UM fans, but Minds like yours are the reason we came into the season ranked #8 because guys like you overrated the guys we have, ending in the ultimate turmoil of a hypothetically "Relevant" season and being embarrassed on national TV 41-14 fair and square.  Our players get hyped up because they play for Michigan and they turn out the same these past 6 years.  You guys really need to get your heads out of your asses and look around. Compare top 5 teams and their talent to ours. Oh wait your right... THERES NO COMPARISON. You guys still havent explained to me who our stars are besides Denard, whether on O or D... I'll wait.

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November 7th, 2012 at 10:39 PM | And im not just saying OSU im (Score:-1 Trolling)
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And im not just saying OSU im talking everywhere else also.  The SEC and the far West have all the athleticism and talent.  Look at a team like LSU/Bama/Florida, mostly black players on O and Defensive line, all pure athletes, they have athletic WR's, RB's, and even on defense they have huge fast and athletic LB's. Thats the reason why teams in the SEC control the trenches and dominate teams in other conferences.  The south has naturally bigger and faster guys just like Lee Corso said a few saturdays ago. Until Hoke can go out and recruit real athletes in the south such as a Leon McQuay, i think Michigan will continue to bite at the ankles of the Elite and never succomb to legit relevance in a while. And your niave to think OSU has no athletes. Thats why their undefeated.

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November 6th, 2012 at 5:21 PM | Huh? (Score:3 Normal)
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Michigan has a fantastic recruiting class. Yes, the strength of it is on the lines, but that isn't a bad thing. I'd love to have a couple of your OL recruits go to OSU. If you're referencing the Marshall, Elliott, Burrows, or Woodard type guys that OSU has, well you guys do have Thomas, McCray, and Gedeon. I don't think you guys are going to see the Marshall or Elliott types as much under Hoke. They just don't fit what Hoke is looking for in RBs or WRs. Get used to big power backs and tall, powerful WRs. In the right system, though, they can be elite.

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November 7th, 2012 at 12:31 PM | Dude (Score:3 Normal)
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Call high schoolers "garbage players" one more time, and you're gone.

They no longer call me Bisbiño

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November 8th, 2012 at 2:31 PM | Well, he did add the insight that we need more black players. (Score:2)
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Along with his massacre of the English language, he's definitely upped his game.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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November 6th, 2012 at 4:11 PM | Also (Score:-1 Normal)
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Also alot of people don realize that alot of the recruits take into consideration (as lame as it sounds) the uniforms.  Adidas is killing us right now. Yellow pants already make us look a little on the Jenny Craig side but just everything about our jerseys make us look sloppy. When i see defensive backs running around with shoulder pads the size of lineman pads it baffles me how Adidas designs their stuff. Its horrible. Michigan state shows us up everytime we play with those Nike Elite jersey designs, (new ones every year). Nike jerseys are just much more sleek and are more up with the times. Adidas takes us back to 95 when everyone sported loose sleeves and short jerseys with their bellys hanging out.  Hopefully UM signs with Nike in '17.

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November 6th, 2012 at 7:05 PM | you're silly (Score:3 Normal)
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you're silly

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November 6th, 2012 at 7:53 PM | Uh (Score:1)
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I'm sure jerseys, while playing some part in recruiting ultimately are not very important.

Here's a list of things probably more important to recruits

Depth Chart

Ability to produce NFL talent

TV exposure

Proximity to home

climate

Girls (sorry Cal Tech)

campus amenities

Head Coach/Coordinator/Position Coach

Academics

 

It's nice to have special jerseys, but somehow doubtful that a recruit would pick MSU over Michigan and the tiebreaker was chrome helmets.

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November 6th, 2012 at 10:09 PM | I really hope this is a joke. (Score:1)
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I really hope this is a joke.

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November 8th, 2012 at 8:19 PM | NOT A JOKE (Score:-1 Trolling)
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This is an excerpt from a Leon McQuay interview with ESPN just posted. You can go look right now: http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/ncfrecruiting/on-the-trail/post?id=22871

 

Leon Says:

"It was a great experience. You actually have to visit and see the place in person to do it justice and [to] get a full impact of what's going on there," McQuay Jr. said. "Everything about it was great. All the way down to how many uniform combinations they have."

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