so much for that
Tuesday Recruitin'
- anthony barr
- cassius mcdowell
- christian pace
- cornelius jones
- courtney avery
- demetrius hart
- devin gardner
- josh furman
- latwan anderson
- lorenzo waters
- louis nix
- marquis flowers
- nick jones
- recruiting roundup
- seantrel henderson
- sharrif floyd
- teddy bridgewater
- terrence talbott
- terry talbott
- torrian wilson
- alex smith
Note: In an effort to remove the enormous and uninviting block of text from the top of the recruiting posts, I've excised the recruiting board update from the post itself. It can still be seen on the actual board.
Moved OH DT Terry Talbott and OH CB Terrence Talbott to committed.
Elsewhere in Committed Prospects...
OH CB Commit Courtney Avery is already known as a multi-talented player: On top of being a defensive back, he's also a startlingly accurate quarterback for his Lexington team. Add a new segment to the resume, as he's also a very accomplished hoopster.
Avery, who originally planned to play football and basketball for Stanford, will focus solely on football at Michigan. Did another national championship leave him second-guessing the decision?
"I'm going to miss basketball, but I'm comfortable with the decision I've made," he said. "This was just a chance to go out and play one final time.
"We started a dynasty together and we wanted to finish it together."
The AAU national championship was his team's third in a row.
Devin Gardner is now a 5-star, and the #4 overall QB on Scout (moves that I predicted would happen, though perhaps not this early). He also passes William Gholston as the #1 in-state prospect.
Cornelius Jones leads Spartanburg to a 13-0 scrimmage victory.
Slightly Longer Shots
AZ S Marquis Flowers "knows two visits he plans to take" ($). Considering the article is written by a staffer from The Wolverine, we can assume that one of those two visits is to Ann Arbor.
Michigan is likely done recruiting running backs unless they can land an elite prospect (i.e. Eduardo Clements), but should they need a backup plan, FL RB Cassius McDowell is probably a good bet. A good friend and former teammate of Denard Robinson, he's the new leader of Deerfield Beach. Also interesting is the fact that the Bucks ran a Wing-T offense last year, but will transition to a spread in 2009. Great timing, guys.
OH S Latwan Anderson has West Virginia, Michigan State, and Georgia atop his list right now, with the Mountaineers leading the way. Michigan seems to have slipped out of his recruitment, though he plans to take his visits before deciding.
CA RB Anthony Barr, who had up to this point had only been on the periphery of Michigan recruiting attention, has included the Wolverines in his final five, along with USC, UCLA, Notre Dame, and Cal. He's a big dude at 6-4 and 223 lbs, so perhaps the Wolverines like his upside at linebacker? He won't decide until his football season is completed.
MD LB Josh Furman will definitely take a visit to Ann Arbor, along with planned visits to Maryland and Virginia Tech. He will announce his decision at the Maryland Crab Bowl, which The Google Machine says takes place on December 19th.
One of the last remaining players interested in Michigan from the DeMatha contingent is S Lorenzo Waters. He includes Michigan in his top four, along with Maryland (the favorite), Miami (That Miami), and Wake Forest.
Other People's Money (and Four-Stars)
OH TE Alex Smith has been "committed" to Cincinnati since February, but the solidity of that commitment has not been constant over time. At this time, he is in an off-again phase with the Bearcats, and the Wolverines have an opening:
As positive as that experience was, it did not propel the Wolverines over a familiar hurdle of theirs when it comes to recruiting tight ends -- scheme.
Despite the assurances offered, Smith remained skeptical about how prevalent a role the tight end will play in Michigan's new offense...
Michigan's best chance at dispelling what it contends is a common misconception about how it uses tight ends will come on the field this fall. Getting Smith back on campus so he can witness the increased productivity of the current tight end tandem of Kevin Koger and Martell Webb will be a major priority. Smith plans to oblige the request, but he plans to do the same for a few other programs as well.
"In no order I'm liking UNC (prior visit), Michigan (prior visit), Wisconsin (prior visit), Miami, LSU and Kentucky (prior visit)," he reported. "Two or three (will receive visits), for sure. I don't know how many I need to take because after going places, I know what they have to offer and there's no real need to go back. I still want to (make a commitment) pretty early (in the season).
So, it looks like Cincinnati is basically out. As long as Michigan uses the tight end effectively this fall, the Wolverines are probably at the top of Smith's list. Smith is also quoted as saying that Michigan is his mom's #1 choice. HOWEVA, Michigan isn't in Smith's top list in this Kurelic article…
When asked to name his top choices Smith said, "Cincinnati, then Wisconsin, then North Carolina, and Kentucky is in there too."
…though he does list Michigan first when asked what schools he'd like to visit in the near future.
In the Trenches
After the commitment of OH DT Terry Talbott, the need at this position is likely for one more high-level DT.
FL DT Louis Nix, a longtime commit to the hometown Miami Hurricanes, has opened his recruitment. He will officially visit Notre Dame, and will also consider Michigan along with Florida and Florida State.
There is some confusion over the official visits of PA DT Sharrif Floyd. Michigan fans are up in arms that Bill Kurelic wrote an article with Ann Arbor not among his destinations. I wouldn't worry too much quite yet, though, as he sounds less than definite in those plans (emphasis mine):
"I'm going to take all five official visits," Floyd said on Tuesday evening. "I'll probably visit Penn State, Ohio State, South Carolina and Florida, something like that."
So, less than certain. He's also said in the past that he definitely will not take an official to Penn State, so this can all get quite confusing. For now, I'd say Michigan fans should be in wait-and-see mode with Floyd. Additional fluff on Floyd, noting that he'll play offensive guard this year, along with maybe a bit of linebacker(!).
On the other side of the line of scrimmage, though a top-5 list a couple weeks ago did not include Michigan, FL OL Torrian Wilson has narrowed his list to three, with Miami, Stanford and Michigan remaining. The Wolverines had been his favorite earlier, but Miami has come on strong, and will probably be the team to beat. And let's check out some video from SoFlaFootball, for good measure:
Torrian Wilson from SoFLAfootball.com on Vimeo.
Season preview fluff on OH OL Commit Christian Pace:
Christian Pace, a 6-4, 270-pound two-way tackle, was first team All-SWC last year and will attending the University of Michigan on a football scholarship in 2010.
He also plays defensive tackle. For the record, that's by far the tallest I've seen him listed (most reports say 6-2ish, though he's listed at 6-3 on the recruiting sites). Avon Lake also scrimmaged against Midview over the weekend (Friday to be precise), and posted a photo gallery on their website. The only good Pace photo from the gallery can be seen at right.
Wrapping up the OL talk is the official visit docket of one Seantrel Henderson. The top OL in the country will take official visits to Ohio State, Oklahoma, USC. Florida, and Notre Dame. Michigan is absent, as you can see. Not that I think the Wolverines will be added, but I take this list with a grain of salt since it comes from the mouth of his father, not Seantrel himself. It also includes Notre Dame, while Henderson the younger has been adamant for some time that he's not interested in the Irish. Either way, MIchigan is likely no longer a player.
Etc.
Michigan still leads (still!) for PA teammates Brandon Ifill and Cullen Christian, though Ifill says Maryland is even with the Wolverines. Byrnes wideout Nick Jones wants to make an Ann Arbor visit. Michigan seems to be out of it for OH S Kurtis Drummond. MI DE CJ Olaniyan seems to really like... Oklahoma State?
Removed FL LB Christian Jones. Michigan is outside of his top 6 ($).
2011 Notes
FL RB Demetrius Hart confirms that Michigan is his only verbal offer so far, and though he seems to favor Michigan, he no longer plans to make an early decision. He will, however, try to enroll early at the school he ultimately chooses.
To go along with likwid's awesome 2011 in-state watchlist, Ohio State recruiting analyst Duane Long has released his initial Top 20 for Ohio.
FL QB Teddy Bridgewater doesn't really like calling the signals. Does that mean a move back to wideout for college? If so, Michigan interest might not be worthwhile.
As long as Avery doesn't write like Matt Trannon, I'd like to see him on the hardwood in the middle of January...after our MNC.
"That's tremendous, Jim."
Agreed on Bridgewater, but the tone of that article makes it sound like he'd much, much rather play wideout.
BRIAN! This has been mentioned before, but it's worth saying again. You're getting it wrong. It is CONELIUS, not Cornelius. No "r".
You're one to talk! You spelled Tim's name B-R-I-A-N!
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Since only about half of local articles go with "Conelius" over "Cornelius," I'm going to continue spelling it as is until one of the premium sites decides it's spelled otherwise.
That's cool. If you'd like me to send you a copy of the program from the game on Friday I'd be glad to. Frankly I would tend to think that's a much better indicator than what the "premium sites" have to say, but whatever. I wasn't trying to be a dick or anything by pointing it out; just trying to help clear up an inaccuracy.
Please do. If you can scan it and e-mail it to me at t.w.sullivan1@gmail.com, I'd appreciate it. If you could keep unofficial stats on Jones, that would be great as well.
For the record, I wasn't trying to be a dick either, though I can see if it came off that way.
He's right, it's Conelius. GreenvilleOnline.com is their local paper. Useful for stats and such....
http://www.greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=YOURUPSTA...
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Yeah, I think what happened was that some of the local articles originally had it with the "r" and the other media and the scouting services reported it that way but the local media has since corrected it. I haven't seen a local article reporting his name with the "r" in quite some time now.
Also, for the record (although I really don't care, more just for information), our local paper is actually the Herald Journal (www.goupstate.com). The Greenville News (www.greenvilleonline.com) is the local paper for Greenville. It wouldn't seem like a huge difference since the two cities are only separated by about 30 miles, but trust me when I say that to locals there is a huge difference. The two cities don't like each other much...
Sure thing on both. I'll be going to the games more for fun than anything so I doubt I'll be able to consistently provide the most accurate stats, but I'll always be glad to provide a report.
Now watch, I'll go to the game on Friday (which is an away game) and the program will have his name with an "r" just to make Tom and I look silly. Haha. That said, I'm 99% certain it's "Conelius" and the initial local articles had it wrong and have since corrected themselves. I will report back on it.
Any thoughts on our ability to get some of those high-touted kids from Ohio in the 2011 class? Obviously Duane Long thinks that it's going to be a great class. I just don't know how many of those kids are OSU locks and how many might be open to joining "That school up north" (hopefully they don't think of us that way). I hear Braxton Miller is supposed to be a lock for OSU which sucks since I didn't want them to get an elite QB until after Pryor left (still, he could start as a true Freshman and that would be fun to watch).
Also on the 2011 class, all I know about Hart is that he's supposed to be freaky good, but I don't know in what way. Anyone want to enlighten me there? Is he fast, does he hit holes well, what makes him some awesome? And should be we reading anything into his decision to not decide soon? I thought that he was like Ricardo Miller in that he'd commit on the first day we could offer him a scholarship.
Thanks for the info Tim.
I'm not going to pretend to be able to evaluate talent but here are some videos from his freshman and sophomore year that you could watch. These were posted here a couple weeks back:
http://www.athletevault.com/Videos/DemetriusHartAV.html
http://www.athletevault.com/Videos/DemetriusHart2AV.html
EDIT:
And to further the discussion on the Ohio kids, unfortunately I have read many of them favor the Buckeyes starting at the top with the two Millers.
A couple I am interested in seeing how it works out are:
Kenny Hayes: Big DE which is a position of need. Goes to Koger's HS in Toledo. With Steve Miller likely headed to OSU, can they snag both top DE's?
DePriest: He's been discussed here before.
AJ Jordan: Trotwood-Madison is home of Moore, Shaw and Roundtree. I believe that Tressell has never offered a kid from here but Jordan may be the first.
Ed Killingsowrth: Don't know anything about him other than he is teammates with DJ Williamson.
I doubt Anthony Barr will pick M. Definite long shot, Weis has been recruiting Barr for a long time, including trips to Loyola to see him personally.
I've got a few friends that go there that watch him play. Great player, long shot for us though.
Weird that two football playing brothers are so different in size.
Keep cherry picking from those feeder schools guys!
We're not getting Braxton Miller...at that point we'll have good QB depth with Gardner, Tate, Robinson and Jones...He won't want to sit behind them and will probably go to OSU and be the heir apparent to Pryor.
I hope that Demetrius Hart ends up with us, that guy is incredibly fast.
Henderson has been adamant about not considering ND?
I guess I have missed those quotes from him, but if he does in fact want to officially visit ND then he will have to prove to the staff that they should invest more time and money into his recruitment.
Current Smug rating: "lethal"
I guess I have missed those quotes from him, but if he does in fact want to officially visit ND then he will have to prove to the staff that they should invest more time and money into his recruitment.
What? Isn't it ND that has the provin' to do? Henderson has to prove to ND that they should put effort into recruiting the number one overall recruit who goes to an ND feeder school? Charlie's legendary arrogance wearing off on you? Umm, if ND is waiting for proof from Henderson of his worthiness of being recruited, I expect it will be too late, and Henderson will already be surfin in Hermosa with Pete Carroll, or doing worse with the vest.
our package is our package, and it’s pretty big. - Greg Mattison, Bowl Practice Presser Tr. 12-13-11.
Cullen Christian looks like a good technician, but the 4.73 40...most likely not fake and his good size, makes me think he will end up at safety or OLB.
Strictly business...Not personal.
Could someone tell me why the Wolverines are have so many recruits that are losing interest in them? Michigan may change their scheme and philosophy, but this place is still Michigan. The team can not afford too many 3-9 seasons. Maybe the winning is more "Michigan-like" the recruits will flock to UM.
"To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield" --Alfred Lord Tennyson/ John Sheridan B5
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Are there that many who have lost interest? Every year there are going to be guys who show some interest in M and go elsewhere. Think about it, of all the guys who name M in their "top 5," if we are getting more than 20% of them, we're in good shape. I wouldn't worry about it too much.


From what I hear, Teddy Bridgewater is the best QB in the south for '11 class. Both Braxton Miller and Bridgewater should be top 3 QB in the country.
Interesting to note that the Talbott brothers went to the same high school as Braxton Miller. Just saying.....