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By Brian — July 28th, 2009 at 1:58 PM — 28 comments
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Update 7/14: Linked to video of FL CB Tony Grimes, OH S Latwan Anderson.

Articles on PA CB Cullen Christian, OH S Bobby Swigert, MD OL Arie Kouandjio, OH S Kurtis Drummond, OH DE Marcus Rush, WI P Will Hagerup, TX RB Stephen Hopkins.

Removed FL CB Nickell Robey (UGA), MD OL Robbie Havenstein, CA LB Tony Jefferson (UCLA), IL WR Kyle Prater (dropped M), TX DE Holmes Onwukaife (FSU), FL LB Jeff Luc (dropped M).

Added FL CB Eric Mitchell($).

Rivals revamp.

Elite 11 stuff: ESPN. RCMB. More ESPN. Freep Roundup. Awards. Barry Every over the moon.

Some links from Bleed Scarlet.

Editorial Opinion: Sort of a light week outside of the Elite 11. There was a Rivals revamp, I guess.

Happy Trails

About the departed:

  • IL WR Kyle Prater took a visit in the spring and mentioned Michigan high up immediately afterwards but once that faded it became clear he wasn't feeling it. Cramming him into this class would have been difficult in any case.
  • FL LB Jeff Luc was a major longshot.
  • MD OL Robbie Havenstein mentioned M like once and then went radio silent; I'm not sure how much mutual interest there was in the first place.
  • FL CB Nickell Robey said he'd visit, but will not. Minor ding there but CB still looks strong.
  • CA LB Tony Jefferson's sudden commit to UCLA robs Michigan of a touted prospect at an area of need; even if they weren't in the driver's seat a 20-ish percent chance of landing him is better than none.

And then there's TX DE Holmes Onwukaife, who tried to commit to Michigan earlier and was told by the coaches that Ken Wilkins and Jordan Paskorz had taken his spot. He was offered the chance to come in as a middle linebacker and turned it down, went to Florida State's camp as an outside linebacker, got offered, and committed. Swing and a miss by the coaching staff here; if Onwukaife pans out it's going to be painful.

Here's a direct example of Michigan's eagerness to accept commitments probably costing them a better class. I mean no offense to Antonio Kinard or Jordan Paskorz, but if I had to pick one guy from the three just based on offers, recruiting buzz, and whatnot, it would be Onwukaife. I know, I know: Rodriguez forges two-stars into firey death machines and so forth and so on. It'll be interesting to see how Kinard, Paskorz, and Onwukaife end up panning out.

Weekly Semi-Creepy Devin Gardner Update

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No, it's not this week that sees the recruiting roundup go without mention of Devin Gardner, but I've got a good reason: Gardner just participated in the Elite 11 camp, where he won awards for Best Feet—no doy—and Best In The Classroom. From there it gets schizophrenic. Gardner did not finish in the top five in the "Overall MVP" voting, but did cause Rivals analysts Greg Biggins and Barry Every to swoon:

Rivals.com national analyst Barry Every ranked Gardner as the top overall quarterback at the camp based on long-term potential and the ability to win football games.

“I don’t think there’s any question, after having seen him for four days, how hard he competes and how hard he wants to be the best,” Every said.

Every and Biggins agreed Gardner compares favorably at the same stage of his career to players like Vince Young, Tim Tebow, Juice Williams and Dennis Dixon, all Elite 11 alumni.

!!!

Yow. That's a huge disagreement between the camp counselor voting—current college QBs—and the scouting professionals. I'm naturally inclined to take the word of the professionals. According to Every, Gardner is a lock to shoot into the top 100 when Rivals revamps its rankings again. (Odd that Rivals would re-do their rankings before the most important quarterback camp of the year, no?)

Every's other favorite QB there, by the way, was PSU commit and OLSM QB Robert Bolden; MSU commit Joe Boisture finished last. MSU's resident Guy Who Knows Guy Involved With Elite 11 was not pleased with what he heard from his guy.

Other opinions also exist, though they're necessarily less star-struck. Scout's Scott Kennedy:

"Gardner is a superior athlete who is handcuffed a bit by a passing camp that doesn't showcase his playmaking ability with his legs. However, as one might expect, Gardner was solid in the bootleg drills, and while struggling hitting the deep-out to live receivers, Gardner picked up his game in the target practice segment, showing off better accuracy than many of his Elite 11 teammates."

ESPN's evaluation intertwines Bolden and Gardner:

Robert Bolden (Orchard Lake, Mich./Saint Mary's) and Devin Gardner (Inkster, Mich.) could almost be considered identical. They are the same in height, weight, frame, athleticism, arm strength, dual-threat capabilities -- you name it and they are probably alike in it. It is hard to tell the two apart. Bolden surprised a bit with how compact, quick and capable he was of getting rid of the ball. At times, the ball jumps off his hand with tremendous zip and power. Gardner is mechanically more like Vince Young with a bit of a three-quarter release, but he has the same "pop" out of his arm as Bolden. As the week wears on, these two will likely see a big jump in overall, consistent accuracy. Bolden, a Penn State commit, and Gardner, a Michigan commit, are terrific fits for their respective programs from a scheme standpoint.

Aaand JC Shurburtt:

Michigan commit Devin Gardner (Inkster, Mich./Inkster) has also surprised many. His hustle, leadership and athleticism add up to a tremendous maturity that will help him compete early for playing time in Ann Arbor. He was a notch behind Bolden throwing it, but still has a strong arm and excellent size.

All told, a highly positive camp for Gardner and Michigan.

Rivals Revamp

Rivals did rejigger its rankings. Plenty of folks moved around but only a few items seem worth mentioning:

  • PA DE Ken Wilkins got a fourth star.
  • OH OL Christian Pace did not, which is somewhat surprising given Mike Farrell's almost rapturous praise for his film. I don't care; I think he's perfect for Michigan, and so does Rick Trickett.
  • MI RB Austin White dropped a decimal point and is now actually behind MSU commit Nick Hill, which makes no the sense given that Hill's BCS offers were Stanford and State and White was clearly preferred by both instate schools, Wisconsin, Illinois, and LSU. But whatever.
  • PA CB Cullen Christian flew up from a three star to the #60 player.
  • Various stragglers at the mysterious end of Michigan's class all got their requisite three stars.

Grimes, We Talk To You

Rivals AMP with FL CB Tony Grimes:

 
Grimes notes he has only the Michigan official set, and claims offers from Ohio State, Georgia, Miami, and West Virginia. He'll wait until Signing Day, he says.

Elsewhere in secondary prospects, OH S Bobby Swigert has a Michigan offer, has visited, and says Michigan is in his top group:

“Michigan was amazing. I was impressed with everything I saw, like the facilities and the new indoor building … it was just amazing. Coach Rodriguez is one of the coolest coaches I’ve met. And the academic advisor (Shari Acho) explained everything really well.”

With such a glowing recollection, it’s no wonder the Wolverines are in such a strong standing with Swigert, even though he hasn’t officially narrowed down his list.

“If I was to narrow down my list, Michigan would be in there. They are definitely one of the top contenders.”

On the other hand, OH S Kurtis Drummond now has Michigan State in the lead ahead of Michigan. OH S Latwan Anderson has bumped around his list a ton, with the latest update omitting Michigan. We'll see if that sticks; some recent scuttlebutt says Michigan is still in the running but needs a real visit to stay there.

You are large, but hopefully not too large

With defensive tackles thin on the ground—or too fat and on the ground—Michigan needs to make OH DT Terry Talbott a priority. So hurrah: Tom VanHaaren reports that Talbott will come up for a visit tomorrow. He also snags a quote from his coach:

"As for Terry, his strength is his ability to use his explosiveness to get off the ball and change direction.  He is very strong upper body and his core is strong. He, like a lot of High School players need to better define his technique. He has good technique now, but to play at the next level and be successful his technique must be great. He uses his hands well now, but needs to always work on using them better." - Jay Minton

Terry's brother Terrance, a cornerback, is also coming in.

Punters are punting in code

WI P Will Hagerup is apparently the #1 guy on Michigan's board—he's the only guy out there with an offer—and a decision is coming soon. Two schools are seemingly in prime position:

Hagerup mentioned that a commitment could come in the near future, "I will decide within another month for sure."

Before he announces, Hagerup would like the further investigate Ohio State and Michigan, "I'm going to visit Ohio State and Michigan for sure within a couple weeks. I'm going to see practices at both places and take another tour at each school."

If it comes down to playing time, Michigan should win. Hagerup would be able to start at Michigan immediately with Zoltan the Inconceivable scheduled to transubstantiate into pure energy after the season. At Ohio State, AJ Trapasso has just graduated. Redshirt junior John Thoma is atop the depth chart; scholarship incoming freshman Ben Buchanan, Rivals' #3 kicker last year, is listed second.

Lightnin' Hopkins

User Mscharbo15 talked with TX RB commit Stephen Hopkins recently and put up a quick summary on the message board:

- He's graduating in December and will be enrolling early.
- His HS has OSU colors and he "wears them with shame."
- He's excited about the possibility of a home-and-home with Oklahoma State, since the 2010 game would be his first as a Wolverine and the 2011 contest would be the closest thing to a homecoming for him (he's from Texas).
- Although being the one power back in the 2010 class, he claims to be getting faster and quicker (can't hurt).
- Had he waited another month to commit, he likely would have received offers from Oklahoma (!!!), Notre Dame, Wisconsin, Sparty and Arkansas.
- He's heard from somebody in the know that if he has a good senior season he'll vault up to a 4-star.

Ooh: early entrant tidbit. That brings Michigan up to six commits with tentative plans to enroll early (Miller, J. Robinson, M. Robinson, Pace, and Gardner are the others).

Caveat: Though I can't confirm the poster isn't having us on, he signed up 28 weeks ago. Unless he was planning an incredibly long-term hoax in which the payoff is "you suckers thought I talked to a running back commit and posted innocuous things about it MOOOHAHA!" it's legit. The troll probability here approaches zero.

Etc.: ESPN evaluates SC QB commit Cornelius Jones and OH WR commit DJ Williamson, giving them three-star-ish ratings. Williamson sounds like the outside burner who will be stupidly wide open when safeties freak out about Gardner. OH DE Marcus Rush was supposed to visit Michigan Thursday but this apparently did not come off; I think this will be where M and Rush part ways. MD OL Arie Kouandjio has two officials, neither of which are M.

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July 28th, 2009 at 2:25 PM | I don't think Antonio Kinard (Score:1)
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I don't think Antonio Kinard has anything to do with Holmes Onwukaife. Kinard is being recruited to play inside linebacker, which Onwukaife didn't want to play.

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July 28th, 2009 at 2:44 PM | Two notes on Grimes: (Score:1)
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1) Looks at least 26 years old. I'm used to this from the big boys like Will Campbell (and Jeff Luc holy shit) but not the skill guys so much.

2) Goal for camp: to 'crispy up the skills." I am now going to work as hard as possible to shoehorn this phrase into conversations over the coming weeks.

Hope he signs. In my amateur epinion, he looks to have some pretty quick feet for someone 6'1"

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July 28th, 2009 at 3:17 PM | Jeff Luc = Biz Markie (Score:1)
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Pulled up a pic of Jeff Luc, wasn't sure what he looked like......definitely looks like Biz Markie :-)

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July 28th, 2009 at 3:40 PM | Speaking.... (Score:1)
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Speaking of look-a-likes. Latwan Anderson looks exactly like Tracy Morgan.

http://michigan.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=92502

Whenever I see his picture, all I can think is him saying, "I'm Brian Fellows. That bird is weird."

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July 28th, 2009 at 8:45 PM | I completely agree (Score:1)
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I have been meaning to say that haha. Completely agree Tom. It really is pretty funny.

"Your goat has devil eyes"

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July 28th, 2009 at 9:41 PM | omgclone. (Score:1)
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omgclone.

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July 28th, 2009 at 2:45 PM | Well, I stopped reading the (Score:1)
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Well, I stopped reading the RCMB thread after the point where they got all indignant over the imaginary 100,000 Michigan fans that were cheering a Drew Stanton injury. Coming from a place where I know for a fact a prevailing sentiment over Bo's death was "good riddance you fucker" it sounds, I dunno, galactically hypocritical? The RCMB is a steaming shitpile and that old Bo thread singlehandedly dropped my opinion of State fans down to second-worst in the country.

"We've beaten Michigan the last four years.  So where's the threat?"

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July 28th, 2009 at 3:25 PM | Don't be so harsh on steaming (Score:1)
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Don't be so harsh on steaming shitpiles.


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July 28th, 2009 at 5:26 PM | Your picture makes me so (Score:1)
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Your picture makes me so happy.

Maize n Brew

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July 28th, 2009 at 3:17 PM | If Onwukaife really, really wanted to play at Michigan (Score:1)
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and attend school at Michigan, he could have accepted the offer to play inside. It's not like he's a QB that we only wanted as a DE. Yes, this may be a meathead comment—what the hell do I know about playing inside vs outside—but it's the way I feel anyhow.


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July 28th, 2009 at 3:29 PM | Let's see... Position A: You (Score:1)
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Let's see...

Position A: You rush the passer 90% of the time and drop to the flats the other 10% of the time.

Position B: You almost never blitz, deal with 310 pound guards trying to pancake you, fill your gap, and drop back into coverage on 95% of pass plays.

Yep. They're pretty much the same thing.

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July 28th, 2009 at 4:16 PM | "Yep. They're pretty much the same thing." (Score:1)
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Although I didn't state I thought they were the same thing, I nonetheless
am now a bit more informed. Thank you sir.


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July 28th, 2009 at 4:48 PM | It doesn't matter, Don. My (Score:1)
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It doesn't matter, Don. My wife hears everything I say in a negative way. She's predisposed that way. Then I have to spend time explaining myself. You're better off staying silent sometimes.

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July 28th, 2009 at 8:08 PM | OMG (Score:1)
TIMMMAAY
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Me too, I have no idea how to deal with it other than just not speak at all.

not just "douchey" MGoBlog user, but now TRUSTED MGoBlog user

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July 28th, 2009 at 9:43 PM | a sock full of oranges leaves (Score:1)
lunchboxthegoat
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a sock full of oranges leaves no bruises.

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July 28th, 2009 at 4:53 PM | I know. I was exaggerating a (Score:1)
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I know. I was exaggerating a bit.

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July 28th, 2009 at 5:17 PM | We often talk about a player (Score:1)
Garvie Craw
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We often talk about a player being able to play corner or safety, wide receiver or corner, quarterback or receiver, etc. But, you're correct, OLB and ILB aren't the same, and the coaching staff was being honest if they told him they wanted him as an ILB. I imagine there are coaches who tell kids that they can play a particular position, while all the time planning to put them somewhere else once they sign the LOI.

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July 28th, 2009 at 6:13 PM | I can't believe an entire hour (Score:1)
Logan88
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I can't believe an entire hour has passed without someone bringing up Joseph Barksdale re: your comment about a coach secretly planning to move a player from said player's preferred position to one the coach wants him to play.

Miles to Barksdale: Sure, son, you can play DT here at LSU.

Miles to LSU's OL line coach: Dude, I TOTALLY faked him out! SCORE!!!!

We ARE Michigan....COME GET SOME!!!

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July 28th, 2009 at 6:52 PM | Truth be told I always felt (Score:1)
Garvie Craw
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Truth be told I always felt that RR told Feagin that he would get a shot at QB while knowing that the chance of that happening in the future was pretty slim. The need for a QB was still huge, which is why Forcier, Robinson, Gardner and Jones are either in A2 or on their way. Did he really want Feagin as a slot or corner? I don't know. I do know it was a desperate time with Pryor as the only other QB recruit considering Michigan. Since then I think there's been some honesty - Peace and Onwukaife. But I didn't particularly like the way they handled Barnes and Travis Williams. It's my hope that RR gets more selective in the future and doesn't offer so many kids that he has to back off someone who really wants to come.

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July 28th, 2009 at 5:34 PM | Onwukaife vs.Paskorz (Score:1)
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I don't know about you guys but I think Onwukaife is a better player and had better offers than Paskorz did. I would have rather had Onwukaife and Wilkins at the deathbacker.

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July 28th, 2009 at 5:52 PM | my brain is overloaded with (Score:1)
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my brain is overloaded with the amount of content that has appeared on the main page and in the forums. i cannot handle it all. (not that this is bad at all, i just have this dumb thing called work that gets in the way of reading mgoblog)

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July 28th, 2009 at 8:58 PM | Brian: I had no idea you were a Wilco fan... (Score:1)
jBdub
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Or did I misread the code?

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July 28th, 2009 at 11:58 PM | I'm not like a huge fan but I (Score:1)
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I'm not like a huge fan but I have a few albums.

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July 29th, 2009 at 9:53 AM | They just put on a show for the ages (Score:1)
jBdub
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at the Royal Oak Music Theatre last week, during which Tweedy actually sang the lyrics, "Speakers speakin', speakers speakin', speakin' in code."

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July 30th, 2009 at 11:59 AM | unless i'm too late: avoid (Score:1)
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unless i'm too late: avoid Wilco: the album.

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July 28th, 2009 at 10:17 PM | Update: Jeremy Jackson also (Score:1)
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Update:

Jeremy Jackson also says he'll be enrolling early.

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July 29th, 2009 at 11:17 AM | I read that Marvin Robinson (Score:1)
Garvie Craw
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I read that Marvin Robinson is open to visiting other schools. Is he wavering, Tom VH?

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July 30th, 2009 at 4:15 PM | NO! He is just taking free (Score:1)
cpt20
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NO! He is just taking free trips. He will be a Wolverine.

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