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Update 5/12: Video on PA DT Sharrif Floyd, OH S Latwan Anderson, MI QB commit Devin Gardner.

Linked to articles on SC QB Cornelius Jones, SC WR Nick Jones($), DC LB Javarie Johnson, OH S Kurtis Drummond, FL RB Eduardo Clements, MI QB commit Devin Gardner, SC QB commit Cornelius Jones, LA QB Munchie Legaux, MI RB Austin White, AZ S Marquis Flowers, OH OL Skyler Schofner, GA DE Henry Anderson, FL RB Roy Finch, MI P Mike Sadler (more($)).

Removed TX LB Corey Nelson(dropped M), VA DT Evan Hailes (ditto), OH LB Jordan Hicks (basically dropped us), NC DE Gabe King (M not top 4). Didn't quite remove MI LB Daniel Easterly despite his Illinois commitment.

Added OH CB Courtney Avery as committed. Also added FL P Brandon Tarpley($), SC S Detrick Bonner, MS DE Wayne Dorsey.

Actually, let's add Corey Nelson back. And here's this Canadian guy, but eh… not adding him. MI DT Jonathan Hankins probably didn't do what he needed to.

eduardo-clements

FL RB Eduardo Clements 

Editorial Opinion: Recruiting board lives here. Avery was covered over the weekend.

Happy Trails

A couple more guys Michigan was following on Twitter but weren't being followed by (Hailes, Hicks, King) hit the bricks, as per usual. Two situations merit a little more discussion:

  • Cass Tech LB Daniel Easterly committed to Illinois. I didn't remove him from the board in case a Michigan offer would warrant further consideration by him, but he didn't show at camp. That signals a lack of interest in getting that offer, and I don't expect anything will come of it.
  • TX LB Corey Nelson got dropped from the board after announcing a top five that had Michigan nowhere in it, but I re-added him after a weird article in which he claimed he would take an official to Michigan, which you can read a summary of at Burnt Orange Nation.

Third (Second?) Tailback

Various recruiting sites are asserting that TX RB Tony Drake is actually being brought in as a slot receiver, FWIW, though I think that determination will depend a lot on the composition of the roster next fall and is far from decided. So more tailbacks might be in order.

FL RB Roy Finch is a high-rated waterbug sort who Michigan has offered, but this article doesn't mention them:

Finch said Oklahoma and Stanford are “right up there” on his list favorite schools. However, he says his mind is not made up quite yet. “I really think every school is in the hunt,” Finch said. “I just really have to get down and visit some schools and find out what is best for me.”

Finch added schools won’t have to wait too much longer, though, before his decision is made. “When the recruiting process first started, I thought about prolonging it,” he said. “But now, I want to get it out of the way before the season starts.”

Blah. If Finch doesn't wait for officials he'd have to shell out for an unofficial to visit M; without that he's headed elsewhere.

MI RB Austin White has been rumored to be a Michigan lean for a while now but he's playing it cool in this article:

"I'm still not really comfortable with what I've seen," White said. "I'm going to LSU July 21 and check that out. I'll get a chance to talk to the coaches.

"I might hit a couple other schools too, but I'm not sure."

Michigan and Michigan State were hit on a camp swing, as was Illinois. There have been several reports reporting a significant, but private, Michigan lead, and I still feel confident White will be a part of the class.

And camp week's most unusual visitor was FL RB Eduardo Clements, who visited, claimed he would decide between Michigan and Georgia after he came back, and saw this written about him in the aftermath:

Apparently Booker T. Washington H.S. (Miami) standout running back Eduardo Clements got a big bug put in his ear when he got to Michigan on Tuesday. Clements reportedly has dropped FSU as his top team and has put Michigan at the head of the class. Clements cited the contrast in styles as his primary reason for this.

Okay: I don't think that's true. Clements was quoted elsewhere as being down to M and UGA, so that bit of information has to be regarded skeptically. But Clements has backed off his decision to decide, which is good since the conventional wisdom was that Georgia would lock this guy down if that came off. He's also added Miami back in. The best hope here is that Clements holds off for some fall officials.

Clements, by the way, is a Rivals 100 guy who was highly impressive at camp. He would be a ver' nice pickup.

One guy who it looks like will be on the outside looking in: MI RB Nick Hill did not get an offer after his camp trip. He did pick one up from State, which is a little odd given their offense and his size (a 5'9" Ringer is one thing, but Hill is seriously tiny). The running backs in state could fall out in the opposite fashion everyone expected, with White ticketed for M while Hill sucks it up and heads to East Lansing.

Linemens

Michigan's locked down one interior lineman and remains in good shape with FL OL Torrian Wilson, who spent a full week($) in Ann Arbor recently. That wasn't all camping and whatnot, as he was visiting a local aunt, but he did take the opportunity to visit the Michigan campus a few additional times. Miami remains a threat but it's hard to see anyone else coming in for him; successfully locking him down would end Michigan's interior OL recruiting.

So that would take care of interior linemen, leaving Michigan to pick up one or two tackles. Obviously Highest Most Holy Priority of Priorities is MN OL Seantrel Henderson, but there are a couple other possibilities out there. OH OL Skyler Schofner has an offer but plans on waiting to decide:

"I'll probably make (a decision) after football season," the big lineman said. "Right now, I'm considering everyone. I can't be judging anyone right now (by games) on TV and all of that. I want to see for myself."

On the other side of the ball, Michigan does draw a mention from PA DT Sharrif Floyd in a post-camp AMP interview, but it sounds like Penn State, USC, and Florida are in better shape. Floyd does plan to take his officials and commit at the Army game, so you know the drill: get him on campus and there's a chance.

MI DT Jonathan Hankins, meanwhile, is an enormous puffy version of Hill. He camped but did not get an offer after showing his conditioning to be lacking. Michigan doesn't want to actually have Barwis kill and eat anyone, so that's an issue. Michigan might follow him into the fall after giving him instructions to get in better shape; at this point I don't think that's particularly likely. DT is going to be a hard spot to fill.

The Man Who Would Be Space Emperor

Zoltan the Inconceivable shuffles off this eligibility coil this fall, of course, leaving a yawning cavern at the punting position that no one will ever fill. But men will try… men will try.

There have been a couple other names thrown around at the position (specifically: WI P Will Hagerup and FL P Brandon Tarpley) but it's looking like MI P Mike Sadler is going to be the guy. He showed at Michigan's camp and did well:

“It went well,” he explained to GBW.  “I was only there for the second day, as I had a prior commitment on the first day.  But I punted well.  I did have a shaky session in there, but I got right back at it, and people were impressed ... so it went well."

And this is about as blunt as recruits get:

"And," he added, "I’m hoping to be their guy.” …
“I’d be very humbled (if they offered).  In terms of taking it or not, I’d have to think about it -- but they’re definitely my top choice right now. So things are looking good.”

Read: offer = commit. How likely is that offer? Well, they're going to take someone at the spot and Sadler's got some impressive offers—LSU and Alabama($), for two—so once Michigan sits down to talk about special teams offers it would be a surprise not to see Sadler issued a letter.

Noooo

Ah, hell: this was obvious once Michigan took a commitment from Cornelius Jones but it hurts all the same:

ESPN reports that Edna Karr multitalented QB Munchie LeGaux (6'4-180) has Oregon atop his list at this time. Michigan, Tennessee, West Virginia and Ole Miss are all a step behind for the dual threat star. He plans on majoring in sports medicine.

Legaux will probably hit "Happy Trails" in the near future; with that and the abortive commit attempt of TX LB Holmes Onwukaife, Michigan's awesome name quotient looks to take a dive this year.

Ack Potential Future WR

So the assumption on SC QB commit Cornelius Jones is that if QB doesn't pan out we'll see him move. I was hoping safety, but that's not what he's been told:

Michigan coach Rich Rodriguez said he would start Jones out at quarterback, and if that didn't work out, most likely move him to receiver.

“That would be okay,” said Jones, who has 4.47 speed in the 40-yard dash. “I like wide receiver. But I'm looking forward to giving quarterback a try.”

Nice fake 40, BTW. Hear me now and believe me later: one of our zillion WR recruits will be in the secondary before the end of 2010-2011.

Weekly Gardner Porn-type Substance

Some fluff on the Sound Mind/Sound Body camp that happened a couple weeks ago strikes upon Gardner's performance:

The event was dotted with standout moments by numerous players, but none was more consistently dominant than Inkster's Gardner. He has staked his claim as the state's top player with outright dominance in camps and combines throughout the spring and summer. His Sound Mind/Sound Body performance was more of the same.

"We all know he's a great athlete and he showed that by doing very well at receiver in addition to quarterback," said Scout.com Midwest analyst Allen Trieu. "What has impressed me the most recently, though, is how much he has improved as a passer. His mechanics are like night and day from this time last year and his passes have much more zip. The work he has put in as a passer has paid off."

Gardner also played enough wide receiver to convince observers he was the best guy at that position there, too. Seven-on-seven video from Michigan's camp for you:

I should point out that from reports Gardner had a rough day overall in the 7-on-7. That's not wholly surprising—he still needs a lot of work with reads and routes he hasn't been getting in these camps—but also might retard what looked like a sure flight towards the top of recruiting lists.

Cracking Glenville(?) And Other Safeties

OH S Latwan Anderson also showed for Michigan's 7-on-7 camp, where he was utterly dominant according to observers. (Video if you're intrigued.) Michigan, Michigan State, and WVU have been Anderson's top three for a while, but in the aftermath of the camp that list has changed:

Highly recruited Glenville H.S. defensive back and Gridironstuds.com member Latwan Anderson has announced his Top 5 of: #1 West Virginia, #2 Michigan, #3 Georgia, #4 North Carolina and #5 Miami, FL.   Anderson says this list is final “no more changes.”

That site is still not 100% reliable in my mind, but it's been pretty good over the last few months and there was a premium article confirm that so there you go. I'm not aware that Anderson has visited any of his top five aside from Michigan and WVU, and the two leaders are supposed to be close to neck-and-neck. Anderson was a WVU fan when he was younger.

(Meanwhile, SpartanMag's Matt Dorsey, who if you don't know is like Tom Beaver plus an enormous inferiority complex and minus any shred of dignity, says "Ohio State and MSU are considered the favorites." Whoops. OSU might be a factor if they offer, but State just got pwned.)

Another safety to keep an eye on is some guy from South Carolina named Detrick Bonner, who popped up for the first time in an AJC article claiming offers from about a dozen programs and… uh… this leader?

He had 11 offers as of Wednesday, favoring Michigan the most. But it’s clear he hasn’t made a decision and Clemson, where he has  camped, made an impression on the 6-foot, 165-pound receiver.

“The fact that they gave me my own tour, they showed more love, I guess,” Bonner told the AJC.

ACK receiver, yes, but no: at Michigan he's a DB, obviously. This is the first I've heard of Bonner; often these weird one-off stories are followed up by others that never mention Michigan at all and a commitment to a school somewhere in the South, but if he's got a Clemson offer and still says M leads this one might actually be something to watch.

Finally, OH S Kurtis Drummond visited M and MSU and has some unsurprising leaders in the aftermath of that:

"I'd say from what I've visited, Michigan and Michigan State are the top two," he reported.

Officials are on tap.

Etc.: SC WR Nick Jones says South Carolina leads($), which okay. Not sounding good with GA DE Henry Anderson. AZ S Marquis Flowers disses USC camp because it's too expensive, so don't expect him to take an unofficial to M.

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June 23rd, 2009 at 1:03 PM | Just offer Hankins already. (Score:1)
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Just offer Hankins already. Take the risk on him, the class probably won't hit 25 anyways so what's the issue? DL is too thin not to take some risks.

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June 23rd, 2009 at 1:23 PM | There is a big problem (Score:1)
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when Hankins runs out of gas in 4 plays. Coaches probably feel that he has motivation issues because of lack of conditioning as well as being way out of shape.

Michigan should hit the 25 quota whether if Hankins commits or not.

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June 23rd, 2009 at 3:49 PM | Hankins... (Score:1)
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It sounds like the kid is not putting in the effort to 'earn' a UM offer. I like this recruiting approach. We only want kids that are willing to bust their butts on and off the field.

Hoke bitches...Hoke.

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June 23rd, 2009 at 1:22 PM | I agree, offer Hankins (Score:1)
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You could have Todd Blackledge do one of his food-on-campus bits and interview Barwis about the best way to prepare and barbecue an out-of-shape recruit.

It would be ironic as hell if Hill comes back to haunt us as a Spartan. And painful if we get stiffed by White, Clements, et al., which is what I think will happen.


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June 23rd, 2009 at 1:46 PM | that would be ironic (Score:1)
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i don't think you should worry about getting stiffed by white though

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June 23rd, 2009 at 2:01 PM | I'm too old to "worry" about individual recruits (Score:1)
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but when a guy with the extensive personal/family connections to another school attends a UM camp and then says "I'm still not really comfortable with what I've seen," being confident that he's coming here doesn't make much sense. Granted, he could be playing the Will Campbell misdirection strategy, but I think the signs from Campbell were far more definitive all along that he was coming here.


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June 23rd, 2009 at 3:08 PM | I think that was just an (Score:1)
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I think that was just an awkward response; I've read interviews like that where the kid talks about "comfort level" being a priority and that quote sounds more like "I'm not ready to commit yet" than some sort of comment on Michigan. There's been a lot of smoke about White and Michigan, and his actions (frequent visits) speak more loudly than that quote, IMO.

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June 23rd, 2009 at 1:29 PM | And if we don't have 25 (Score:1)
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And if we don't have 25 scholarships available? Then what? As of now, scholarships are at a premium until more open up. Why would we take a risk on a guy whose position we badly need instant impact players? We can't wait several years for Hankins to get in shape. Sharrif Floyd and Jibreel Black are two better prospects that we are targeting who can make more of an immediate impact. We don't need any flyers right now; we're trying to rebuild from a 3-9 season. Ohio State, on the other hand, has quite a few DL and can afford to take a flyer on Hankins and let him develop and get in shape.

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June 24th, 2009 at 5:24 PM | Jibreel Black isn't a nose (Score:1)
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Jibreel Black isn't a nose tackle type, and we'll certainly have to battle to get Floyd.

There aren't a whole lot of DTs on the board this year. Hankins is probably our best bet to commit.

And again, show me a 300-pounder in high school, and I'll show you someone who's out of shape. Will Campbell was 315-330 in high school. I didn't hear many people complaining that he was out of shape. Why? Because he was a talented, 5-star kid. Not every 300-pounder is going to be as good as Campbell.

If we're going to take a guy who is 300 pounds, then he will be out of shape. Let's not pretend that Hankins is some sort of outlier and that there are big guys out there who will breeze through a Barwis workout.

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June 23rd, 2009 at 1:34 PM | I'm still getting used RR approach in recruiting after years of (Score:1)
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Carr. I'm not sure which one is better or worse, but the differences are pretty vast. At least with Carr, you got a sense of a very organized and systematic approach to filling needs and it seemed that the pieces of the recruiting classes fell in place almost in order(granted my memory is very jaded at this point). There were plenty of years where we missed out a guy that we really wanted, but Carr always seemed to be consistently um, er, consistent in his approach.

With RR, I have faith that he has a plan and is working that plan, but I would be remiss if I didn't say that I get a sense of the old "Ready, Fire, Aim" on his offers and the way these guys are dropping. I don't get my panties in a bunch about stars either because anyone of the guys on the staff is a far better talent evaluater than the entire collection of "scouts" for rivals and scout combined. If they were great evaluaters, they would be on a staff somewhere even if it was watching film to identify recruits.

I'm not saying either approach is right or wrong or that one guy is better than the other when it comes to recruiting, but there is definitely an adjustment period. Also, you can't rule oout how different it is too recruit to the spread versus a more conventional offense. For example, these star ratings are based upon measurables and parameters that were developed in the context of a conventional offense. So you take a guy with exceptional quickness, decent speed, but short as a motherfucker and he becomes a 3 star. You put that same kid into a spread where his quickness can make him dangerous in the slot and by scheme alone you've defied the gurus predictions of a kids abilities. Likewise, you take a guy like KG and you go from a traditional gap running gap to a zone blocking scheme and he goes from a 5 star kid to a 3rd stringer because he lacks the vision/anticipation/patience to wait for the hole to develop in the gap scheme.

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June 23rd, 2009 at 2:01 PM | KG (Score:1)
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"Likewise, you take a guy like KG and you go from a traditional gap running gap to a zone blocking scheme and he goes from a 5 star kid to a 3rd stringer because he lacks the vision/anticipation/patience to wait for the hole to develop in the gap scheme."

errr, I think KG's fizzle has nothing or at least very little to do with scheme: he hasn't produced his entire career, and barring unforeseen awesomeness next year, he is a 5 star bust of his own volition.

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June 23rd, 2009 at 8:24 PM | You must have been a kicker/punter (Score:1)
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because there no fact, only your opinion, in your analysis. There is a huge difference between the style of offense Grady was rated as a 5 star in and recruited to play in at UM versus the zone blocking scheme we employed after he arrived. I won't go as far as to say he has no role in his fall, but to say the scheme change was a non-factor is just pure ignorance of the game and I mean that in a nice way. KG is a downhill bruiser meant to run between the tackles and he does it well when it's not 3 and 1 and every sells out against the dive play.

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June 23rd, 2009 at 2:08 PM | These are his first two recruiting classes with only (Score:1)
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a half year for the first one. I would wait to make a full judgement on the way he recruits over the next few years because I think it will be different than the first two. Just saying it is easier to look at Carr and how he recruited here over his long career, than a year and a half for RR.

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June 23rd, 2009 at 8:17 PM | Yeah, you're right that is (Score:1)
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a very valid point as my sample size to compare the two of them are not even close to being the same size.

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June 23rd, 2009 at 3:01 PM | Nice post, 54 (Score:1)
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And nice tele....

Carr's approach made UM one of the Big Two, but wasn't enough to win a lot of National Championships or perform well on a regular basis in the Rose Bowl. Although Wazoo got help from the refs, they did get back into the Rose Bowl in the fourth quarter of the championship year.

I think there is a great chance that RR's approach can get UM to the very top, as opposed to being a team that looks good on paper, sometimes dominates the Big Ten, and loses to elite opponents in bowl games.

Once RR gets the personnel to execute his offense correctly, we may see recruiting stabalize a little bit, too. At any rate, I can't wait to see UM scoring on big plays because of one-on-one mismatches in the secondary. Then we'll see who deserves their star ratings.

 

 

 

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June 23rd, 2009 at 1:43 PM | Bonner (Score:1)
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"Bonner, who popped up for the first time..."

That was intentional, right? Right?

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June 23rd, 2009 at 2:14 PM | We need a recruit named (Score:1)
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We need a recruit named 'Babby' now.

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June 23rd, 2009 at 6:07 PM | That depends. Where does he (Score:1)
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That depends. Where does he come from?

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June 23rd, 2009 at 1:50 PM | Does anyone else . . . (Score:1)
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. . . see "Garnder Performs at Michigan" and expect to see some kind of low-rent circus act?

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June 23rd, 2009 at 2:47 PM | Anyone else notice from the (Score:1)
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Anyone else notice from the video that Gardner was kind of "pushing" the ball on short routes? I don't care, because he was still throwing ropes on the money, but I know they sometimes try to correct that out of QB's. Anyone know why?

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June 23rd, 2009 at 3:58 PM | compared to some videos of (Score:1)
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compared to some videos of him i saw from high school, his mechanics looked better in that video than any other i had seen. seems like he's working it all out.

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June 23rd, 2009 at 8:32 PM | not to nit pick on a 17 year old's mechanics but, (Score:1)
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his mechanics are greatly improved when he gets to take his drop and gets time to setup and throw. But it is when he gets rushed he starts to revert back to side arming the ball or "shot putting" the ball on short passes. Even with the side are or shot put / shovel pass, they were all for completions and where catchable balls.

In the end, completions are all that matter.

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June 23rd, 2009 at 2:51 PM | Eduardo Clements (Score:1)
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If Clements waits until school is back in, he will probably bow to peer pressure and choose Miami. Going to Miami is sort of a tradition at Miami Booker T Washington. It's sorta like how many parochial schools used to (and a few still do) steer prospects to Notre Dame.

 

 

 

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June 23rd, 2009 at 4:03 PM | its not like (Score:1)
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he can sign an LOI befor February anyhow. That Miami peer pressure is coming whether or not he makes a commitment before school starts back up.

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June 23rd, 2009 at 4:04 PM | Hey Brian: Regarding Eduardo Clements, (Score:1)
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The link you placed went on later to say that he had also just recently been to the Georgia camp. I have no inside knowledge on this at all, but if he was subsequently at the Michigan camp then suggested an M lead, it stands to reason we are in very good shape with him. Do we know much more about him - anything that would keep him close?

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June 23rd, 2009 at 4:16 PM | Georgia lean. (Score:1)
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Georgia lean.

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June 23rd, 2009 at 9:57 PM | What I've been...... (Score:1)
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What I've been told is that right now, it's Georgia and Michigan as the top two. He's a slight Georgia lean, but I think the more time he takes with all of this the better it is for Michigan.

He got a good chance to meet and hang out with some of the other commits at camp, so they'll be working on him more.

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June 23rd, 2009 at 4:49 PM | Apparently Booker T. (Score:1)
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Apparently Booker T. Washington H.S. (Miami) standout running back Eduardo Clements got a big bug put in his ear when he got to Michigan on Tuesday.

That's a very strange analogy. I don't think I'd want a bug put in my ear.

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June 23rd, 2009 at 4:51 PM | Michigan Camps (Score:1)
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Is there a fee for these recruits to attend these camps (Michigan, MSU, etc)?

Is it something stupid like 10 bucks so it isn't a violation or is it a couple hundred bucks?

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June 24th, 2009 at 8:31 AM | If I remember correctly, it (Score:1)
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If I remember correctly, it is somewhere in the ballpark of $400-500.

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June 23rd, 2009 at 11:16 PM | Munchie (Score:1)
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Oh well. UofM doesn't even offer an undergraduate "sports med" degree. It's "kinesiology"

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June 24th, 2009 at 1:00 PM | That's not exactly true. (Score:1)
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That's not exactly true. That's like saying Michigan doesn't offer an English major, that it's "LS&A." Kinesiology is a school within the university, offering different majors. He would likely choose "movement science" which is very close to sports medicine.

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June 24th, 2009 at 9:02 AM | Latwan Anderson... (Score:1)
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looks like he will fit right into the Buckeye secondary.

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June 24th, 2009 at 10:21 AM | Clements (Score:1)
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This guy is really good, it would be awesome if we could get him.

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June 26th, 2009 at 5:53 PM | Austin White (Score:1)
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I don't know about White being in the Michigan fold; his dad (the principal at AA Pioneer HS) is an MSU alum and former MSU trackster, and his brother Myles (NOT the White Receiver named White) is an R-Frosh WR at MSU.

FWIW.

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