We need all of those corners. I like White too.
i refuse to even consider this a possibility
Update 5/12: More video of MI QB commit Devin Gardner. linked to articles on OH TE Alex Smith (w/ mention of PA WR Andrew Carswell), MD S Lorenzo Waters, PA DE commit Ken Wilkins (two three), FL RB Nickell Robey, FL DE Corey Lemonier, FL RB Cassius McDowell, MI DE Will Gholston, PA WR Andrew Carswell, MD OT Arie Kouandjio, MI WR commit Ricardo Miller, OH DT Jibreel Black, MI LB Daniel Easterly, PA DE commit Ken Wilkins. Moved TX DE Holmes Onwukaife and SC QB Cornelius Jones to committed.
Removed FL RB Darion Hall (Miami), SC S Bashaud Breeland (Clemson), FL CB John Fulton (dropped M), OH DE Darryl Baldwin (same), PA DE Kyle Baublitz (PSU), MD S Jeff Knox (Pitt), TN QB Barry Brunetti (WVU), FL OL Brent Benedict (UGA), MI CB Mylan Hicks (MSU), MI DE Will Gholston (MSU).
Editorial Opinion: Recruiting board lives here. Despite what you read above I've held off on anointing the Holmes Onwukaife commitment official until he gets the super-OK from Rodriguez but expect that will happen shortly.
Tons of guys come off the board for various reasons. Random guys who Michigan never really got involved with: Breeland, Fulton, Brunetti, Benedict, Knox. Others:
So not exactly anyone M was counting on. The two in-state commits were also thought to be favoring State, so no surprises there. They are both good players, though. You know about Gholston. Hicks has been outperforming Mathis at the various camps the two have participated in and his commitment further narrows Michigan's margin for error in a year when they need three or even four corners.
One note on Brunetti: I'm happy enough to see him go off the board, as it further narrows Ohio State's slim choices in this year's class. It's basically Moeller QB Andrew Hendrix or bust. They must be kicking themselves about Gardner; even if he's raw, better to have someone raw than someone eh.
Michigan remains in the driver's seat for PA CB Cullen Christian, MI CB Dior Mathis (probably), FL CB Travis Williams, and FL CB Rashad Knight, so they're not in terrible shape or anything. Also a candidate is Marvin Robinson's good friend Nickell Robey:
“I want to visit some schools that I have been wondering about,” Robey continued. “Michigan, Tennessee and I would like to visit Miami but they haven’t come through yet. I wouldn’t mind going out to California to see Stanford and Notre Dame to go to some far away schools to see how life is.”
Robey on M:
Robey also commented on one of the non-regional schools he mentioned, Michigan.
“A good northern school that loves football. I think of Desmond Howard. I’m number 21, so that’s nice. They produce great players to the NFL and I could be one of those athletes, play football and have fun,” he said.
Local schools, Virginia Tech, and various others will have their say, too.
Your latest Devin Gardner video is a compilation of Vince Young-esque runs:
Elsewhere in All Things Gardner, he showed at a local Michigan camp and dominated at both QB and wide receiver. He's been getting preposterous reviews of his athleticism when he puts himself in a position to use it at these things. He finished third in the 60-yard dash at the Sound Mind, Sound Body camp, getting beat out by two defensive backs a half-foot shorter than him and 50 pounds lighter, and came up a half-yard short of the longest throw.
There remains some possibility that
FL MI WR Ricardo Miller joins up with Gardner this fall. He's moved to Michigan but the original plan to join MI WR Jeremy Jackson at Ann Arbor Huron was kiboshed when Huron got a new coach who intends to install a veer offense. Another possibility would be Saline, which features BC commitment Joe Boisture at quarterback.
More panting coach quotin' from PA DE commit Ken Wilkins' main man, who says he has a tiny waist despite being ENORMOUS:
"He is a physical, freakish-looking kid," Trinity coach Ed Dalton said. "He is 6-foot-4 and 242 pounds, and he has a 30-inch waist. He is an unbelievable physical specimen."
Dalton said Wilkins' potential is off the charts.
"When he plays with a high motor, he is unbelievable," he said. "He has to become a little more consistent and play at a high level every snap, but the sky's the limit."
Well, a good source at Trinity who knows the football program well said Wilkins is talented, but isn't as athletic as Andrew Sweat, a Trinity linebacker two seasons ago who is now at Ohio State. "He doesn't have the agility that Sweat had," the source said.
Since he's way bigger than Sweat and not a linebacker, this does not bother me.
This will be a critical week for Michigan and MI DT Jonathan Hankins. Varsity Blue notes a Hankins mention on one of Sam Webb's recent recruiting roundups for WTKA, and helpfully translates the lingo:
Sam Webb had a “gut feeling” on the Recruiting Roundup Thursday that Hankins would be blue if offered. For those who are unfamiliar with the WTKA morning show, Sam’s “gut feeling” means that he has heard directly from a source that the information is true.
I think that depends on whether that's a "gut feeling" or a "strong, strong, strong gut feeling," actually, but Webb is expert at playing coy and allowing the listener to read between the lines.
Elsewhere in defensive linemen who aren't edge-rushing maniacs, OH DT/DE Jibreel Black, who would probably play as a 3-technique DT in Michigan's 4-3 under, is down to a top five:
In no particular order, it is Michigan State, Michigan, UC, Indiana and Kentucky. It's getting hard, but I should have a decision real soon.
Black's been on State's campus and was also up for the BBQ, IIRC; Michigan is usually the choice when an out-of-state prospect picks from a list like that, but Cincinnati is the local school here and could be a threat.
Michigan still leads($) for OH DE/OLB Marcus Rush, but he has to be just about out of luck by now, right? Michigan has three or four guys already at his position and he's not a guy who you'd shove into the class no matter what. I don't think he'll get the opportunity to commit; the Inn is full.
The coaches at Hialeah have been experimenting with a new way to use star defensive end Corey Lemonier. The Thoroughbreds have implemented a 3-4 defense to use on occasion, where Lemonier will line up as an outside linebacker.
When the T-Breds throw out the new wrinkle Lemonier is still used as a pass rusher most of the time, but he does drop back in pass coverage at times.
Kid's playing deathbacker this fall. Hopefully Michigan can sell him on the spot. It looks like they'll get an opportunity:
Lemonier is tight lipped on his recruitment and says he will make a decision when he feels the time is right. He did mention one school and a region of the country he would like to see during his official visits this fall.
“Probably I know for sure I’ll say Ole Miss and some (northern) school like Michigan, a school up there.”
Obviously a long way from the finish line there.
More Weekly Whispers; drilling down to the relevant bits:
Etc.: MI LB Daniel Easterly says Illinois leads "so far"; a Michigan offer might change that quickly. CityBallers.com interviews Teric Jones, Cameron Gordon, and Devin Gardner (also Robert Bolden). PA WR Andrew Carswell says Pitt leads($), which ok fine.
We need all of those corners. I like White too.
Is it just me or does Robey's quote make it sound like he thinks Notre Dame is in California?
I thought the same thing.
My girlfriend's high school in California is called Notre Dame, and they have the same fight song so she knows all the words. One day she decided to sing it to me. I made her promise never to do that again.
Wolvin if you don't mind me asking is you girlfriend a student or teacher? (just wondering your approx age...)
+1 My girlfriend goes to state and I've made her promise not to sing their fight song around me too.
If you just isolated on Young running by himself, he didn't seem to be working that hard; he had this really easy, smooth-looking stride. But then he simply ran by so many guys who seemed to working twice as hard to keep up. I see the same thing in Gardner's runs; he really doesn't appear to me to exhibit pure speed, but dang if he isn't consistently outrunning people even if they have the angle on him.
I thought the same thing... he doesn't look that fast until you see people chasing him to the corners and he's beating them soundly. A very small part of that might be them not quite knowing how to use the angles and underestimating his speed, but it's gotta be mostly because he's just really deceptively fast.
It makes for very tense game-watching for me though... I'm always thinking someone is going to catch him. I guess that makes for better celebrations after the fact too. As long as we're scoring, who cares.
my thoughts watching Gardner run. He has that "glide" speed where it doesn't look like he's running hard but somehow beats everyone to the edges. Then turns upfield and gobbles up yards and miraculously avoids a crashing DB or two/tree. Young, Pat White and (cough, hack) Terrell Pryor have that same glide. I can't wait to see him do it while wearing the winged helmet!
So, a high school coach has the possibility of having two Michigan level WR's and decides to install the veer?!?! An offense that works best when you throw about 8 times a game?
Somebody please tell me there's a story there, like they don't have anyone that can throw better than my non-existent little sister.
Well, he's going to have those 2 WR's for one year. Also, I don't think Huron has much as far as a QB. If both those guys are there, he'll throw more out of the veer this fall, but then when those 2 guys take off, he'll have the foundation laid of the offense he wants to run.
I honestly don't know much about Huron's program, but unless the coach feels that in 2010 they are going to be capable of being one of the premier teams in the state, it would be wise to hold off on installing the veer for a year.
If they have a qb that can throw reasonably well combined with two high end WRs, they would seemingly be better off spreading teams out and attacking through the air for one year. Install the veer at your lower levels and then in 2010 and 2011 you have guys experienced with the offense at the varsity level and also don't waste a once in a lifetime receiving corp.
High school coaches should be flexible with their systems to take advantage of their talent. It's not like you can recruit specific type players (that's mostly true).
Huron's program used to be pretty solid, but it's been floundering in the average to sub-average range for a little while now.
Not many high school football coaches have a broad repertoire of offenses that they've mastered and are able to install.
take 28 in 2010. chances are if next off season is anything like these past two, 3 guys will quit on their own and RR won't even have to "encourage" them to do it, like some dirty SEC school.
242 pounds with a 30-inch waist? That's unreal. But what will his waist size be after he puts on the freshman 15?
The Gardner video is good, but it needs more lightning bolts.
So this is the first video of Gardner that I have viewed. 3 thoughts:
1) He does not carry the football very close to his body which concerns me, especially considering our propensity to fumble.
2) I was expecting a little more top-end speed, since I've recently been hearing what a stud he is at WR.
3) Needs more cowbell, er... lightning bolts.
Overall, I see the raw talent Gardner possesses. However, it is just that, raw talent. He will definitely need a red shirt in order to hone his skills further. Nevertheless, I like what I see for our future.
it is a lot like Pryor (sorry but they have the same body type) in that they take long strides and it makes them look like they are running slower than a small guy who runs just as fast. Gardner is very fast and all the times and camp showings are more than proving it, even if it may not look like if when watching.
I do also worry about him carrying the ball out there and making sure to switch the ball to the outside hand on some of the runs. I think RR will be able to help and he still has plenty of time to get better over the next two years.
I was one of the people who thought Tate would be the starter as long as he was here and healthy, but the more I hear and see of Gardner and his amazing abilities it makes me wonder.
It is great to see RR start to stack up the talent at QB and other positions, it will pay off soon
I'm a nit-picker, but this seems like nit-picking even to me.
May want to take him back off the committed list. Coaches asked him to play MLB and he said "thanks, but no thanks"
It is nice to see how recruiting changes over the course of a year with a new staff. Better get on board now or be left in the dust, except for any top 100 guys. There is always room for them.
If he can hone all of his physical skills we are going to have a special quarterback. I do agree that he does hold the ball out there but that can be fixed.
I was expecting a little more top-end speed...