I'm rather astonished at the amount of overlap between Michigan and UVA recruits. This hasn't really happened before. Not just in passing, as with, say, both schools offering Bolden and Dakota Royer and getting nowhere with them, but guys like Rush and Wilkins naming both as leaders (especially Rush.) Or Baublitz and E.J. Scott. It's really weird. I chalk this up to RR recruiting the East Coast, especially PA and MD, a lot heavier than previous regimes did, that being his old stomping grounds anyway.
Update 5/12: Video of FL S commit Marvin Robinson. Articles on FL RB Corvin Lamb, MI CB Mylan Hicks (w/ mention of FL OL Brent Benedict), CT LB Khari Fortt, PA DT Sharrif Floyd, MI QB commit Devin Gardner (second), TN QB Barry Brunetti, FL LB Christian Jones (second), OH DE Derrick Bryant, OH S Bobby Swigert, FL OL Torrian Wilson.
Removed MI QB Robert Bolden(dropped M), FL OL Chaz Green(ditto), GA RB Kendrum Malcome(dropped M).
Editorial Opinion: Not a whole lot of movement this week except for some list-narrowing that unsurprisingly slices off Michigan. Next week should be more newsy, as Michigan hosts its major recruiting event between spring practice and summer camp season: the "BBQ at the Big House." A commit or two could shake loose then.
Recruiting board lives here.
- MI QB Robert Bolden narrowed his list to five, then replaced a couple teams when they took quarterback commitments. Michigan isn't on either list; he's off the board. Penn State or Michigan State, probably.
- OH TE Alex Welch committed to Notre Dame.
- GA RB Kendrum Malcome and FL OL Chaz Green have released shortlists that do not feature M.
No earth-shaking developments here: the Bolden writing was on the wall as soon as Gardner committed, and the other folk never seemed strong possibilities.
A few more names likely to find themselves wandering in the wildnerness, haunted by the ghost of Nefarious Eduardo:
- CT LB Khari Fortt is narrowing his list soon, and though Michigan has an offer out "schools expected to make the initial cut include Penn State, Boston College, Virginia, Florida and Southern Cal."
- SC RB Marcus Lattimore now has a solid top three of Auburn, Georgia, and Florida State with UNC and South Carolina following; that promised official visit now seems unlikely.
- FL CB Tony Grimes prefers to stay in state and an offer from Miami makes them the "team to beat."
The three big-time quarterbacks in Michigan gathered at a camp in Wixom last weekend to battle to the death. The result… a tie. Or something. No one's willing to commit to a revised opinion of anyone. Helmholdt on MI QB commit Devin Gardner and friends:
The consensus was that Boisture, a pro-style quarterback, showed the best overall passing ability on the day, but all three quarterbacks had their moments. Bolden and Gardner are of the dual-threat variety, so a camp setting does not showcase all of their abilities. Both have great arm strength, but still need to continue to develop their mechanics.
Rivals is also wishy-washy, headlining their report on the camp "Take Your Pick." Farrell on Gardner:
"Gardner has a release similar to those of Vince Young and Terrelle Pryor. His accuracy on Saturday was above-average considering his mechanics, and he threw some ropes downfield that were dropped by receivers. His frame is impressive, and he has excellent quickness and throws with velocity on the run."
"A release similar to those of Vince Young and Terrelle Pryor" is a backhanded compliment, eh? And then it's followed by another backhanded compliment: accurate "considering his mechanics." As per his rep, Gardner needs work.
A "GolVolsXtra" article starts with the sentence "Tennessee and [FL OL] Torrian Wilson seem like a perfect match," says UT is "looking good" to land him without anything to back that up and then goes into the other schools recruiting him:
Michigan is an intriguing team to watch with Wilson, who said he grew up rooting for the Wolverines.
Wilson, who took an unofficial visit to Michigan for the Wolverines' spring game last month, said he likes Michigan's physical style of play.
"I liked (former Michigan tackle) Jake Long and liked watching the offensive line go after the defensive line every play," Wilson said.
I'm filing this under hilariously slanted and holding steady on Wilson optimism. GBW aids with an interview of teammate (and FL RB) Corvin Lamb (broke fibula; plans signing day decision; "high" interest in Michigan) that goes into Wilson:
Q: You know Torrian Wilson made a visit to Michigan; has he talked to you about it?
Lamb: “Yeah, he’s been wearing his Michigan gear every day.”
JC Shurburtt runs down a bunch of the nation's best linebackers, asserting that OH LB Jordan Hicks is a heavy Texas lean, FL LB Christian Jones is a heavy Florida State lean, FL LB Jeff Luc is highly likely to stay in Florida, and providing this on TX LB Corey Nelson:
Billy Tucker on Nelson: Nelson may be a bit undersized at outside linebackers but like a few of the elite Under Armour All-American linebackers that played before him, he is extremely explosive and plays much bigger. He finds the ball quickly, takes direct angles and displays great acceleration pursuing sideline-to-sideline. His striking closing speed/ burst to the football on outside run support may be his most impressive attribute. Nelson is a collision tackler who generates very impressive velocity in the short-area.
Recruiting Buzz: LSU, Texas A&M, Texas and others are strongly in the mix for Nelson.
That's not even a mention for Michigan, which briefly led in the aftermath of teammate Tony Drake's commitment. Whee! I'm sure Michigan will continue to pursue a visit, but until such point as he comes up I wouldn't get your hopes a-soarin'.
Jones is apparently considering a visit, for what that's worth:
“I haven’t really put together a list, but if I did, (Michigan) would definitely be up there. They have that stadium that I’m pretty sure every player would love to play in,” said Jones. “That just makes you play harder because you don’t want to mess up in front of 100,000 people. That’s something I’d love to do.”
Jones is undecided as to whether or not he will attend a Michigan-run camp this summer. He and his father, however, do plan on visiting the University sometime in the near future.
That's a GBW article working overtime to provide a sunny view on his recruitment and should be eyed skeptically until more neutral parties provide anyone other than Florida State a shot. Watch for that visit, though. There's fluff on Jones from ESPN if you're so inclined.
OH DE Derrick Bryant said he was on the verge of committing to Michigan shortly after signing day, but then backed off that and said he'd wait. Now he's maintaining no leaders:
Bryant said he does not have a favorite at this point and plans to take most, if not all five of his official visits.
"I want to make sure I choose the right school," he said. "Each and every school has something to offer. My job is to find the school that is the best fit for me."
UCLA and Oregon, if the Ducks offer, are in line for some of those officials. I'm not sure if Bryant's coming up for the BBQ this weekend; it would be a bad sign if he didn't. Also from that article: PA DE Kyle Baublitz has 20 or so offers, no leaders, and plans an unofficial visit swing through the Midwest which will hit Michigan.
Speculation And Whatnot
Mike Farrell dropped a ton of stuff late last week; all of this is speculative but Farrell went from pariah to prophet amongst Michigan fans when Shavodrick Beaver did his Tulsa thing and at the very least these are data points. Welch's commitment to ND was predicted, FWIW. Categorized according to impact; Welch's commitment is omitted:
- MI CB Dior Mathis is likely to pick up a UCLA offer soon, with Ohio State possibly hot on their heels. Despite this, Michigan "is the team to beat." Other rumblings have Mathis a silent commitment who just wants to announce at the Army game, which you take seriously at your peril.
- FL QB Jeffery Godfrey is mentioned along with five chasing schools, none of which are Michigan.
- Ditto for TN QB Barry Brunetti, who favors WVU, Mississippi State, and PSU. Michigan hasn't offered, though, and might change that if they did. (Brunetti fluff from ESPN.)
- Michigan isn't mentioned for MD OL Arie Kouandjio, which is fine because that's even tougher to spell than "Smotrycz."
STUFF WE PRETTY MUCH ALREADY KNEW
- FL CB Spencer Boyd is "a heavy Notre Dame lean."
- LA QB Munchie Legaux just got an offer from… Baylor? And… Baylor(?) "could be the team to beat"? Why on earth would anyone from Louisiana with offers from a bunch of big programs go to the worst program in the Big 12 when that program currently has a dynamite starter who will play in front of Legaux his first two years. I do not believe this. It is not possible.
- This has nothing to do with Michigan, but later in the article Farrell says TX S Ahmad Dixon, who is in the Rivals 100 and is committed to Texas, which is Texas I repeat Texas is close to decommitting from the Longhorns in favor of…
LOL WUT goes here.
If either of these things happen my brain will explode.
Anyway, there is also this list of kids expected to show at Michigan's next recruiting event, the "BBQ at the Big House" at the end of the month:
Among those expected to attend include committed linebacker Antonio Kinard, defensive backs Latwan Anderson and Cullen Christian, linebacker Ken Wilkins, offensive linemen Skyler Schofner and Andrew Donnal, running backs Tony Jones and Andre Givens, defensive ends Jibreel Black and Marcus Rush and wide receivers Brandon Ifill and Andrew Carswell. This is, of course, in addition to the majority of the top prospects in the state of Michigan.
Rush, Wilkins and Christian are candidates to drop assuming their offers are, you know, committable. Christian's definitely is. Wilkins and Rush… maybe. Kinard, Wilkins, and Rush are all the same sort of player so Michigan might only take two of the set. Gholston is also scheduled to attend.
As mentioned last week, Tom Lemming promised to drop a couple Michigan prospects in his top ten, and while one of them didn't quite make it the other did. Folk of relevance in his top 100:
9. Devin Gardner
12. Will Gholston
33. Sharrif Floyd
36. Marvin Robinson
55. Dietrich Riley
56. Sean Bailey
69. Corey Nelson
88. Jeff Luc
89. Marquis Flowers
90. Zach Zwinak
98. Munchie Legaux
There are more Michigan has offered, but they're even more distant longshots than a guy like Luc.
You Cannot Replace Zoltan, But You Can Try
Michigan's offered WI P Will Hagerup:
“Michigan offered me,” he reported, adding, “It definitely has a football tradition that is hard to beat and the school itself is in the top two or three in the Big Ten probably. It makes my decision harder.”
Hagerup is probably the country's top punter, if early offers are any indication. He's got a wide variety of Big Ten offers plus Alabama, Florida, and Tennessee.
Etc.: Michigan offered IN RB Roderick Smith; he remains an OSU lock so forget it. Many highlights of FL S commit Marvin Robinson (no embed, sorry). MI CB Mylan Hicks hasn't narrowed anything down. PA DT Sharrif Floyd picks up a Florida offer. Webb on Pahokee folk.
I noticed that as well, but it makes sense considering his stomping grounds. I'm still a little surprised how many recruits in TX RR is going after, considering his recent string of recruits from that state. I'm all for him still recruiting there; it is kind of refreshing to see him undeterred.
i think is a bit hasty
I haven't actually taken him off, I just expect I will in the near future when he comes up with a list.
Apparently he's coming all the way up here for the BBQ, so I imagine he's at least still entertaining the idea of leaving Florida.
I'm feeling fairly confident we'll land Cullen and one of Mathis or Wood at corner, but I'm getting worried re: LBs and D-linemen. We have a few key recruits at LB and DE attending the BBQ, so hopefully some good will come from that event. I keep telling myself it's very early in the process....
It's incredibly early in the process. There are still 8 months to go to find 2 linebackers and 3 defensive linemen to sign for Michigan. Worry not.
As for Wood, don't be sad when he commits to Notre Dame. Just move on to the next recruit.
I think Ken Wilkins will commit at the BBQ. Just a sort of gut feeling I have.
I believe Dixon has already committed to Baylor
rivals already lists dixon as a baylor commit actually. as of 5/22
Sweet Jesus. This is the end.
1. Dixon is from Waco, so it isn't all that weird for him to stay home.
2. Art Briles started out as a high school coach (he coached Kevin Kolb in HS) and this gives him a certain pull with high school programs in Texas that past Baylor coaches have lacked.
As far as non-committed but highly interested recruits go, it looks like we're sitting pretty with CBs. However, none are actually on the commit list yet. For those more in the know than I, which of these guys do you see committing? Which are the most likely to go elsewhere?
Rashad Knight, Dior Mathis and Cullen Christian, all solid guys, seem to like M a lot. That's about all I have.
will have me feeling giddy if R2 were to pull them in. I like our chances with all three of them.
Imo,Rashad would make a EXCELLENT safety.
i dont know how much tony grimes is into us but hes one to consider. rivals gives him 3* but he has offers from bama, georgia, miami, M and tOSU so he's definitely one that we should watch out for
When do the recruits graduating get to campus and start practicing?
i think it's basically asap. my friends cousin is on the team and i think he was out here by june last year taking classes and doing whatever football players do
edit- maybe not by june since a lot of graduations are in early june but midjune maybe?
Robert Griffin is really one of the best things that could have happened to that program. Do onot be surprised to see them in a bowl game soon. Legaux might want to stay closer to home or be like Griffin for them.
Its good to know we are doing recruiting things like this, hopefully we get some commitments from it.
this coming season, they should be better than most people expected. Obviously Robert Griffin III will be the headliner. Baylor went 4-7 which is still a bad record but 4 of the 7 losses were decided by 7 points or less. With a better break in their way, Baylor could be on the way up toward a winning record. I'd still expect them to lose to OU and Texas.
They will also lose to OK St. Look for them to be solid this year.
I am not sure about that will lose part to be totally honest. Baylor played a heavily favored Texas Tech team at home and whereas Tech was grossly overrated, Baylor was the prohibitive underdog. Baylor played Tech close all game, and with an upset could have altered the national championship scene by handiong the Big XII title to Texas.
This year, Baylor plays Okie State at home the week before the Cowboys play Texas. (Coincedentally they play Oklahoma the week before Texas but a Sooner letdown to anyone is unlikely to say the least.) Oklahoma State's defense was mediocre at best last year by Big XII standards, so it would be unsurprising to see a player with Griffin's caliber to at least keep it close.
The word will should not be used when speaking winning and losing in college football. That being said, I doubt Baylor will beat Wake Forest, Oklahoma, Texas, or Oklahoma State but I'd expect to see somewhere around a 6-6 year.
OK, when I say a team will lose, I don't mean that it's a gimme, but that's how I feel the game will end up. Baylor has a good QB in there, but so does Okie St, and they have one of the best receivers in the country as well. A lot of people feel Okie state could be top 10 team, top 25 for sure. I agree that Baylor will be a .500 squad, but I think OKST will replace TTU as the clear #3 in the conference.
Probably along the lines of 42-31 or something like that. Oklahoma State is overrated in my epinion, but that's just me. As is the Big XII. Getting beat up by Florida in the NC, almost losing to Ohio State by inches, getting hammered by Ole Miss, losing to Oregon, sneaking past Northwestern, and barely beating Clemson which was in flux, does not scream "the best conference to me. (FWIW, those were OU, Texas, TT, Okie St., Mizzou, and Nebraska.)
I completely agree that the Big 12 is very overrated. Those teams just put up a ton of points on each other and everyone was all over their jocks. Bowl season said A LOT about how good the Big 12 really is. That said, if the Big 12 was so bad last year, then why could Baylor only go 4-8? Outside of Griffen, they haven't brought in any decent players in the last few years, so I don't foresee them being too much better than last year. Griffin will be better. He still doesn't have a defense, or anyone decent to throw to or run the ball. Their line will be decent, but they also lost the best lineman in the Big 12 (the country?) to the draft. Again, I agree with your 6-6 prediction, but I would be very surprised if they win more than that.
Agreed but if you look at Baylor's games they went 0-3 in close games (determined by 7 points or less, FWIW 2 were on the road.) Switch that and they were a 7-5 team, if they were slightly more fortunate 6-6. They have a decent running game I suppose, a RB (Jay Finley who is now a Junior) and Griffin combined for about 1700 yards. Receiving is meh with Kendall Wright getting about 650 yards and 5 TDs. Spot on with the 88th ranked (9th Big XII) defense nationally, they aren't very good. Losing Smith will be a huge blow but Baylor should recover. It's a down year in the Big XII for teams not in Oklahoma or Austin. Baylor should be on the rise IMO.
I don't buy much into the argument that those three games could have been wins. If you can say "they should have won those close games" someone else can say "those games shouldn't have been that close." I think 6-6 is their ceiling. I'm sticking with it. We can revisit this in the fall.
BTW Baylor lost it's crown as the worst program in the Big XII to Iowa State. Auburn begs to differ.
Any Zoltan siblings out there?