The Heiko and Borges exchange wasn't cut out of the vid this week!
I did not make this headline up
“Ah. How we doin’?”
“Got a full house today! Wonder why’s that?”
You draw a crowd.
“I’m being Elvis.”
Speaking of a full house … what is it that you call your formation with Denard in the backfield?
“We call it, ‘Denard in the backfield.’ How about the word of the day? We have to take care of that.”
What’s the word of the day? [Chantel Jennings would like to point out that this is not an MGoQuestion.]
“Resolve. Heiko, any technical questions?”
MGo: Uh …
“The finer points of attacking quarters coverage, maybe?”
MGo: Actually, yeah.
“That was stupid. That’s the stupidest thing I could have said. Go ahead.”
MGoQuestion: Virginia Tech’s aggressive quarters coverage made it hard for you to run the quarterback last year. Do you see that as a problem against Ohio State?
“They play totally different than Virginia Tech. Their structure is different defense. Really is. Now they may take a little bit of the same mentality, but from an X and O perspective, it’s a different.”
MGoFollowup: But in terms of having aggressive opposing safeties, does that make you hesitant to run the QB at all?
“Nope. Nope. Nooo.”
How many possibilities can there be having both Denard and Devin on the field?
“I don’t know.”
Legitimately you don’t know? Or do you just not want to answer?
“I don’t want to answer.”
How much time did you spend on that package?
“We did some of it last year now, guys. This isn’t completely new. But with Denard getting injured kind of forced the issue a little bit. We did some of this stuff a year ago.”
That was only a couple plays a game, though.
“Yeah, but like I said, the injury forced the issue more. We were a year ago constantly putting in plays together for our deuce package. In some games we used it more than others. But it isn’t a copletely novel concept.”
How much more ready is Devin for this role now than a year ago?
“Well, he’s a lot more ready because he’s played three games. That makes a huge difference. The more the quarterback plays, the more he experiences. It’s like anything. You just grow in the position, and as you grow in the position, you tend to minimize your errors. Sometimes that’s not always true. I’ve seen 15 year veteran quarterbacks throw four picks in a game. But for the most part, a lot of the things get ironed out. The growing pains get ironed out as you play more. I told you guys before: so many things, particular with the quarterback, are game specific. You won’t always see the error all the time in practice, and then all of a sudden he makes the error in a game, and you may have talked about it, but he didn’t really what I call ‘body learn’ it.”
How much does the loss of Fitz change your game plan?
“None. Not really. Thomas [Rawls] will just step in and pretty much satisfy that with a little help from a couple of the other backs. That’s not going to -- that shouldn’t affect us too much.”
Denard played in about a third of the plays. Is that how much he’ll contribute --
“You’re going to try and ask the same question another way, aren’t you?”
“It doesn’t work. I’m not addressing that issue. I refuse to. The best thing is don’t even try anymore. As far as that package goes, that’s game plan stuff and I would never [talk about it.]”
Can you talk about how you devise a package like that?
What about Devin has impressed you the most the last few weeks?
“His composure as much as anything. Because last week, somebody asked me, was I surprised by his accuracy? Not at all. All his numbers in practice have shown you that he’s an accurate passer. But again, so many things are game specific. Things can go wrong, and then being able to deal with those things -- but the biggest surprise is how composed he stayed. Not that I didn’t think he would, but you don’t know. Nobody knows. Until those lights go on and those bullets start flying, you just never know.”
As far as coming up with this idea 18 months ago, was it one of the first things you thought of?
“No. Not really. Because I didn’t know a lot about Devin Gardner, to be honest with you. I knew a lot about Denard Robinson once we did our homework, but I didn’t know a lot about Devin Gardner.”
When did you learn about him?
“Just through spring football. I could see through our first spring that he was pretty skilled.”
You’re a self-described football junkie. You scribble plays on napkins and stuff --
“That just means I have no life, actually. It doesn’t make me smarter or anything like that. I basically have no life, so that’s what I do.”
But as an offensive coordinator, isn’t it fun calling a play like that?
“Oh yeah. Yeah. That’s fun. Yeah. Sure it is.”
But is it fun coming up with these plays?
“I just said it’s fun! You want me to elaborate, and if I elaborate, I’m going to get into some of the intricacies that I don’t want to talk about!”
Have your creative juices been flowing the last few weeks?
“My creative juices are flowing all the time. Depending on the game, I’m considered creative or idiotic, but they’re always flowing. That’s what kind of makes this game fun for coordinators. Defensive, offensive -- there’s so many things that you can do with 11 guys. It’s like no other game. You can scribble so many things. Half of them are good, half of them are bad, and the half that are good, you have to time them out right when you call them, because if you time them wrong, they won’t work out as well as you hoped. That’s one part of it that makes it fun. The kids are what make it the funnest. Being able to work with young people can keep 57-year-old men fairly young. But the schemes and all that. That’s what’s fun about being a football coach, see if you can get it taught and stay off the hot seat.”
Was the triple reverse something you’d seen somewhere before?
“Oh yeah, yeah. I’ve seen it … Michigan ran that play years ago. I think they ran it against us when I was at UCLA.”
Are most of these concepts things you’ve seen before or are they completely from scratch?
“Some yes and some no. When you coordinate an offense for what seems like 100 years, you run a lot of plays at one time or another. I like researching football. When you look at not just what you do and then go ahead and turn around and look at what other people do, no one has a patent on offensive plays. Consequently, there’s a lot of copycating and thievery. I’ve had plays stolen from me and I’ve stolen plays from other guys and tweaked plays to make them hopefully fit for what you’re doing. You can go back. I had a situation when I was at Auburn, when I had Ronnie Brown and Cadillac Williams, they were both tailbacks. It didn’t seem like a fit, but if you could do enough homework to figure out how to get them both back there, there were ways to do it. We made it work. You take what you got. Hopefully you can devise some kind of schematic to explore their skill set. Hope you call it at the right time, and then go man go.”
Is it a more difficult challenge to do it with Devin and Denard than it was with Brown and Williams?
“No, I’d say they’re pretty much the same. It’s just different skill sets. Pretty much the same. The biggest problem you have is if you don’t have talent. Trying to devise schemes when there aren’t players that can do some of the things you want … But when you have some guys who can, it’s a little easier.”
Did you look at the inverted wishbone at all for inspiration?
Do you think Devin has an innate sense of when to scramble on third down?
“Yeah. Good instincts. Good instincts. And what’s kind of cool, and Denard and Devin both, is sometimes you don’t call it perfect and he can improv you into the next first down. That’s a really neat deal because the key is to keep the chains moving so you can call more plays. When people are complaining about, ‘Well, how come this guy’s not touching the ball more? How come this guy’s not touching the ball?’ Well generally it’s because you’re not getting first downs. You don’t get the turns. You don’t get the calls out. What Devin’s done a good job of is, when it isn’t there, creating something to get us more calls. Get the receivers touching the ball more. Get the tailback touching the ball more. There’s just no way you can call everything perfect. Can’t do it. So what’s going to happen when you don’t?
“I know when I started studying what is commonly known as the West Coast offense -- you don’t hear me use that [term] very often -- and I talked to Bill Walsh, God rest his soul, I asked him, ‘What makes a good quarterback and what makes a great quarterback?’ He says, ‘The third play.’ So what do you mean the third play? He goes, ‘Well, the system quarterbacks can run the first two plays and complete the pass or hand the ball off. But on the third play, when something breaks down, when I didn’t call the perfect play, when a receiver falls down, when the protection breaks, when they just flat cover you, what does a quarterback do? Does he create so I get more calls or does he just simply go down and get sacked so that we punt? And the great quarterbacks can make the third play whereas the systems quarterbacks usually make the first two.’
“That was a good answer, didn’t you think?”
It was a great answer.
“You weren’t even listening.”
How far do you think Devin is from making that third play?
“He’s been making the third play quite a bit. The delicate balances is trying to make the third play before the third plays really should be made, and that means turning down open receivers and running, which you don’t want to do that either, but every phase in the three games -- and including that one -- has gotten a little bit better.”
You got to experience this week of preparation last year for this game. What’s the feeling in the building, the intensity …
“Ooh. It’s Ohio State week. Make no mistake about that. Brady, everybody. We haven’t even practiced yet, but you can feel this game is different. It was last year, and it is this year. And I think it’s going to build a little bit to a crescendo as the week goes on. This is a game here that -- I’ve only been here a year, so I do not even pretend to have the appreciation for it as some of the people who have been here for a long time do, but I am gaining it quickly. This is a big deal. This is a big deal, and we’re going to pour our guts out as coaches, as players, as a whole Michigan football family into winning this game. We’re going to leave it all out there, and it’s going to start today. It started actually yesterday.”
MGoQuestion: How much self-scouting do you do this week?
“Every game we self-scout just to make sure that -- we look at what they’re looking at. First of all, we have some raw data. I think raw data only takes you so far. What I need to do is to go back and look, as the week progresses later, look more and more. Like last game, we sat in our meeting the other day, and I told the coaches, ‘Okay watch this film and tell me what you think they’re thinking.’ So you know, we’re constantly trying to get into the minds of the people that have to play against us, and they’re probably doing exactly the same thing.”
Is there any consideration to saving plays for this week?
“No. No. No. We play them one at a time. No. Absolutely not. We had to beat Iowa, and that was our approach.”
Is it good to have Ohio State thinking about more things now?
“Well, you always want them to be forced to defend you as much as they want. That’s always good. But they create enough headaches defensively that they got us doing the same thing, so it’s not like it’s a one-way street. They cause some problems with their schemes, just like I’m sure they’ll probably tell you we do too. This game is, at the end of the day, we all want to think that we’re George Patton, orchestrating the battle and all that, and we do to a degree, but this game is won or lost by the players. Our job is to try and put them in the best position to succeed knowing that sometimes it’s not going to work, but this is, particularly this game -- I think all of them are like that -- but particularly the Ohio State-Michigan game, this is about the players rising to the occasion and overcoming the adversity if they’re playing on the road. All those things that go with that.”
Do you script plays?
Do you do it more with Devin?
“No. The approach hasn’t changed in 27 years. I script less plays than I used to. I script about 25. Now I script about 17 or so.”
“Yeah. But there’s nothing new to that. When I did it before, I used to get a million questions on it, but now every coach does it now. That’s not new. And they do it on defense, too. They’ve learned to counter what you’re doing by throwing you a curveball.”
MGoQuestion: Against Iowa, Denard could carry the ball only in his left arm. Does that concern you at all?
“I’d only be concerned if he fumbled it. There’s a couple different schools of thought on carrying the ball. And depending what coach you talked to, the purists always says carry the ball under your outside arm. But then there’s a large contingent of coaches that believe you should carry the ball in your dominant arm because you can secure it better. Depending on what your philosophy is, both can be correct.”
MGoClarification: So for Denard, it’s his non-dominant arm, and he’s not switching?
“You said it.”
How many points of pressure?
“Five points of pressure! As long as you’ve got those, it doesn’t really matter where you carry it.”
Unless you’re Walter Payton.
“Well, yeah. When Walter got close to people -- he did all that when he was away from people. When he got close to people that ball came in where it belonged.”
Are we overstating how unique it is to have Denard and Devin in this kind of offense?
“I think so. I think you are. Yeah. I mean, it’s different, I guess, but like I said, we’ve done it a little bit already. I’ve done it in the past as a coordinator, so I don’t think it’s as big a deal as all that. It’s probably fun to write about.”
Louisiana-Monroe had two quarterbacks on the field this year. Did you see that?
Yeah. Did you watch that at all?
It was pretty cool.
“Send me that DVR.”
So is it the deuce?
“That was more last year. This is two backs in the backfield. Two quarterbacks in the backfield.”
I thought it was called Denard in the backfield.
“No. I know you want a cute name --”
Deuce Part Two?
“Heiko, think of a cute name for that.”
MGo: On it.
It’ll be next week’s word of the week.
“Next week’s word of the week? … Yeah! Chantel, she doesn’t say much, but when she does, you should really listen.”
The Heiko and Borges exchange wasn't cut out of the vid this week!
Perhaps Schembechler Hall realized that these videos would get many-a-views from this contingent if they didn't cut those parts.
I think it helps that it wasn't right at the beginning this week - people would wonder what is missing if they video cut out between questions.
Because the Q&A before the exchange was so informative and essential to the presser that it couldn't be left out of the video?
Just like adding rutgers!!!!!!!
It does EXIST!!!!!!
I now look forward to Borges's presser as much as any other post during the week.
This may have been said in other weeks, but I love that Borges knows Heiko - and thereby MGoBlog - for asking the technical questions. Certainly a testament to the quality of this blog.
This is amazing. Heiko, I'm not sure if you can tell or not but you have earned your stripes already! You've done us all a great service and we thank you. Borges already knows what we want to know without even having been asked. Tremendous!
Heiko, I'm just proud you haven't been lying about your exchanges with Borges in these pressers.
This made my day. Thank you, Heiko.
Heiko is recognized and gets great answers. Rothstein asks a million questions and they all get shot down or one-sentence answers.
mgoblog > ESPN
Scary!!!!! Borges knew Heiko's question in advance!! Either there is a security breach in the MGO Cave or Borges is psychic
I will be stealing the Bill Walsh story as my own for the rest of my life.
It wasn't a GD triple reverse. It was a double reverse. The media thinks end-arounds are reverses so they call actual reverses, double reverses. I hate that.
^ This. That is very annoying seeing as how their profession is you know, COVERING FOOTBALL.
This is perfect. Cue up Borges calling it the Fritz.
Yes! This is the big chance for MGoBlog terminology to actually be used by the football team!
Heiko, do you think Borges knows that you always use the same picture of him, probably b/c he looks really funny in it?
Maybe Heiko can take a "best buddies" picture with Borges. That'd be cute. Chantel should suggest that; Borges would heed her advice.
That picture reminds me of "Drunk Uncle" from Saturday Night Live.
Granted I've nearly really listend to an assistant coach's press conferences, but is this type of repor and back & forth typical at UM or other places?
I guess I am used to either the fortress mentality of quick, generic sound bites (Bill Belichek, Jim Harbaugh and pretty much any other NFL coach) or the wacky southern team college coach (e.g., Steve Spurrier, Les Miles), but Borges seems so relaxed and that he actually enjoys the back & forth. Good for him.
My preference would be calling it the "Double D" package. But guessing that some might find that a bit risque', how about "D-Squared" ?
Heiko and Chantel...a match made in heaven? Oh ya and Borges too!
Heiko and Chantel should get married and make beautiful reporter babies.
You must have a girlfriend/wife and in which case I support your position. I think she's a cutie and she covers Michigan for a living. I can see no other reason for this not be a plausible suggestion.
So, does Heiko not realize Denard has always carried the ball solely with his left hand, or was he just playing dumb for the question?
I didn't know, but now I do. MGoQuestion is MGoRedacted.
That was last year. Has he carried it in his right this year? Especially since the first time he landed hard on his right elbow?
That was his point. That hit has caused him to soley carry it in his left arm.
News item: Not many people know this, but today Al Borges held a second secret press conference. I snuck in the back and took notes, and now I can officially report back to the MGoCommunity that the banter between Al and Heiko is getting playful to the point of steamy. My presser transcript follows:
Al: “Hey guys. What’s up, Heiko, what’s shakin’ bacon?”
MGoHeiko: “So nice to see you.”
“Are you just saying that, or do you really mean it?”
[earnestly] “I mean it!”
Al: What do you guys wanna know today?
DetNews: Will you please say some generally positive things about Devin?
Al: Devin is wonderful, fun, gregarious, and I just can’t say enough generally positive things about him. Oh! What’s the word of the day?
Al: Tee hee hee. I like that one.
Det Free-Press: What happens when the quarterback hikes the ball, and doesn’t handoff, but then there’s no one open?
Al: Well, the quarterback has several checks he should make, he can check down to a second or third receiver, and if he sees a run lane opening, he can just tuck the ball and run. For example, on that play where Devin got flushed out of the pocket into the flat, you may have noticed the receivers moving to take a bubble screen…
[high pitched squeal from Heiko]
… to counter the defense’s 4-3 blitz package.
Al: I knew you’d like that bubble screen talk, Heiko! Look, everybody, we tailor our game to our quarterback’s strengths. A gameplan for Devin is different than a gameplan for Tom Brady.
WJR: How are quarterbacks Tom Brady and Devin Gardner different?
Al: Devin’s a great quarterback. Tom’s a great quarterback.
Tom's great, yeah. But my
favorite Brady: Marcia!
Cute plus pouty lips.
MGoObservant: Was that a haiku?!
Al: Damn tootin’.
MGoFollow-up: You’re like Matsuo Bashō … but fast!
DetNews: Heiko and Brian are going to start a football team that exclusively runs bubble screens.
Al: Fine. I’ll tell you what. If I run one of your bubble screens, Heiko, and it goes for a TD, I promise I’ll command the Michigan Marching Band to spell out “Heiko!” in their half-time show.
MGoHeiko: Really, even with the exclamation point?!
Al: Wha … how did you know I intended an exclamation point?
Det. Free-Press: Tell me about the progress of the defensive line over the course of the year.
Al: Look, the defensive line has progressed over the course of the year, folks.
Det. News: What does Ryan bring to the table?
Al: Toughness. Spirit. Integrity. Football stuff.
What were your thoughts when Gibbons lined up for that field goal in the Nebraska game?
Al: I wanted him to make the field goal. I did not want him to not make the field goal.
Seems like an easy chip shot. Just sayin’.
Al: Easy? Yo, I will cut you.
MGoQuestion: Will you tell me what secret, trick plays you plan to run next game?
Al: (coyly) Oh Heiko.
“The finer points of attacking quarters coverage, maybe?”
MGo: Actually, yeah.
“That was stupid. That’s the stupidest thing I could have said. Go ahead.”
"Press Conference" gold right there. That is the stuff I & many others here want to hear/learn about! Not, "Is it fun coming up with plays?". No offense, that is a fine and legitimate question in the context, but the hardcore Footbaww stuff is the good stuff...(literally). The fact he somewhat knows that's what is going to be asked from a certain contigent of media, is pretty cool. The Bill Walsh premise and theory about a QB being able to make "the third" play is also some pretty cool Footbaww "stuff".
I'm getting afraid Borges is trying to secretely butter up Heiko and then steal him away from us and make him one of his assistants next year.
and then watching the presser, seeing how close MGoBlog is to basically the inner circle of Michigan football, it makes me think one day MGoBlog will be the feature on 60 minutes as something like "How Blogs Revolutionized Sports Coverage". Seriously, I could write the script for it right now
Wait, so is Heiko his REAL NAME? The line between online accounts/avatars and reality is becoming verrrrrry blurry. It's cool that Borges and Heiko have this kind of relationship.