Conditioning seems to be a factor, but there was no plan to play him this year anyway. He could have worked himself into shape during this redshirt year and then be ready to contribute next year. Maybe he was homesick. Florida is a long way from Ann Arbor.
Tony Posada Gone Almost Before He Arrives
nice while it lasted
A Michigan athletic department spokesman confirmed Monday that true freshman Tony Posada has left the Wolverines' football program.
The spokesman did not elaborate on the departure.
You have to wonder if the reason was because of conditioning. Posada showed up at over 340; unlike Chris Bryant that was about 30 pounds more than his reported playing weight.
Posada's departure isn't immediately painful since Michigan's starting guards both have two more years of eligibility. It does force a redshirt freshman (or worse) into the starting lineup in 2013. After Barnum and Omameh graduate the guard depth chart will look like this:
- Redshirt sophomore Chris Bryant
- Various members of the 2012 recruiting class
Michigan now has no option but to take a sixth OL this year, something they were planning on anyway. They might even go to seven if this was unexpected—and it probably was since the kid just hit campus. This may push Michigan's number to 27 this year, which would allow them to take a seventh OL or Danny O'Brien (yes, please).
How does that work? Did they just say "You fat!" and tell him to pack his things?
Or did he kind of realize he was way waaay too out of shape to make it through practices?
To get rid of you.
People can be too fat for the internet?
Not while Magnus is still around.
I wish that were true.
That was an honest question. Was not meant to be a dick. You on the other hand...
I'd hate to see you trying to be a dick.
Oh wait, I have. It's the other 95%* of your posts.
*(2% sincere but kinda dicky, 2% mental meltdowns 1% homophobic)
This is me not giving a shit.
I'm sure you've had a lot of practice doing.
don't knock a guy's hobby.
I have to scroll 20 posts through this pissing contest before I get to some actual content.
Thanks for noticing that too. I think somebody had a case of the Mondays yesterday. I think we need a Hello:rgasm to release some tension around here.
Luckily, the guards in the 2012 class are Kalis, Bars, Stacey and possibly a guy like Garnett, so whoever emerges as the top guy in the class will likely be a pretty good starter, even as a RS frosh. Probably comparable Lewan as a RS frosh, better than Omameh at the same point.
While I agree with everything you're saying, it makes things easier when you need 1 of four highly rated OGs to be solid, in addition to Bryant. You're also right that a lot of these guys need to not be busts, but that's just where we're at. Luckily we took a couple guys like Glasgow and Yerden who might be able to jump into the line-up two years from now. Remember, since highly rated OLs are the most likely to fall short of expectations, the lowly rated ones (or walk-ons) are the most likely to exceed them.
I'm not as worried at OT, since I doubt Lewan goes pro early, but Magnuson and Braden will both be here by then as well. We'll be OK, cease panic.
They have quite a bit of hype for preferred walk-ons and I would expect one if not both to be in the two deep at some point. I think it's also why some many people are upset about Nathan Brink possibly starting; almost no one had heard up Brink before this year.
Also the part about OL's either outperforming or underperfoming expectations is dead on. You see this at the NFL level (with undrafted guys) as well.
FWIW, I've seen Brink play at the highschool level. Granted, his competition was not that great, he was an absolute monster who plays super low, and his technique and mean streak made him a nightmare to block. I'm not as nervous to see him play as everybody else is.
I'd rather see BWC inside, and RVB at SDE, but we have to have the best players on the field, not recruiting rankings.
of next year's class will not redshirt. They'll be prepped like contributors from the moment they step on campus, bc that's what they'll need to be.
If Hoke's been promising playing time opportunities, he wasn't lying.
That's a little much. We might have a true frosh burn a redshirt, but that's it. We'll still have a full starting 5 plus Miller, Bryant, Mealer and walk-ons. There would need to be a lot of injuries before a freshman saw the field, let alone multiple freshmen. A bomb would have to go off inside a blocking dummy to warrant 4 freshmen playing.
They won't be starting, but they'll definitely get time on the field. The depth problem all along the line is much worse than you believe.
It's preferable to have highly rated kids like Magnuson and Kallis getting those game reps than anonymous walk-ons, given they're likely to be better players (even as true freshman)
But OL isn't an area where teams rotate much at all unless a guy goes out with an injury. And unless it was a long term thing, I would think the coaches would throw in one of older OL guys for spot duty.
In 2012, if Khoury goes down, either Miller goes in for him or Barnum slides over and Bryant or Mealer comes in. If either guard goes down, Bryant or Mealer comes in. If either tackle goes down, either Barnum or Omameh slide over and Bryant or Mealer comes in or one of three or four walk-ons comes in. We would need 3+ injuries before one true frosh plays, and unless it's a season ending thing, one of the guys I mentioned would go in for spot duty.
but foremost I disagree with the spot duty fill. If we're in the middle of the B1G race and Iowa is up next, the best guy is going in. Odds are a Garnett or Kallis are better players even as true freshman than walk-on fillers, or even the two redshirt freshman options. Redshirts just aren't a luxury the team can afford, even at the position where it's needed most.
I'd thought Barnum could slide to OT as well, but given recent photos he looks to be about 6'2". Omameh can slide, but based on UFR's last year, digging a guy out and drive blocking head-up wasn't his strength. Mealer has hardly played in several years on campus and is rarely mentioned. Glasgow and Yerden are godsends on the chance they pay off, but playing tackle is mostly about the feet.
If you say 1, I say 4; we may both be wrong, but I'd lay money it's closer to the latter. Injuries can pile up quickly on the line, and the guys we're bringing in look to be good enough to get spot duty and claim a spot in the 2-deep.
Kidding aside, I think you underestimate the jump from high school to college for lineman, especially O-Linemen. Strength, size, technique. It's pretty rare that true freshmen play. (Unless unearthly desperate or they're truly exceptional).
I predict Mealer will not be on the team in 2012 by his own choice.
Wasn't Magnuson expecting to redshirt which was a reason he chose not to enroll in the spring? Maybe with this happening one or two linemen decide to enroll early since it is obvious by the growing size of the class that two and maybe even three (recruits not just linemen) will have to do so.
that might turn into something so there's that. . . Your panicking over the OL the last year has turned out to be somewhat on target. If we had kept Posada and Fisher I would have no concern at all about 2013 as 1-2 redshirt freshman out of 6 highly rated prospects stepping up and starting wouldn't be much of concern to me. If somehow Lewan stays we're looking at only filling one OG starting spot in 2013 with all redshirt freshman, redshirt sophomore walk-ons, and/or true freshman filling in the back up spots. We could still have a pretty awesome OL in 2013 although very thin. But if 2 of 3 guys don't step up Gardner will be doing a lot more running that we'd like to see back there in a few years.
Can we still take two more O-Lineman? They said that they wanted to be a package deal and would love to see both of them in th Maize and Blue.
Or maybe Graham Glasgow gets on scholarship.....
Well it's not like putting him on scholarship would make it any more likely he contributes.
I hope Tony ends up at a place he wants to be. Although dissapointing to have more attrition it will be nice to end up with ANOTHER elite member of this already amazing 2012 class.
Hope you find a good path to what makes you happy
Isn't the big ten max for a class 26?
I believe it's 28, as long as three or more of them early enroll and you have room for three in the previous class (we took 20 last year, so we're good).
In other words, from how I understand it, if we get three or more guys to early enroll we can take a class of 28 if we have room for them in the 85 man limit.
I was told that Hoke is less keen on early enrollment than RR was. Is it the case that we kinda NEED kids to do early enrollment, to get the class numbers right?
Yeah, for every kid over 25 you need a kid to EE. Since we're probably only taking 26, we only need one EE and Jarrod Wilson is it. If we take more than 26, more need to EE.
I'd think coaches would be all about early enrollment. Giving a kid a chance to get used to college without the demands of a football season would be priceless.
28, provided you can early enroll 3 and can count them to the previous class.
EDIT: WolvinLA said it better.
28 but you have to have EEs and as of now I don't know of any. Also I have our class with 24 spots available assuming Bell is gone and Stonum is indeed back. Me and WolvinLa both have a different number and were hoping someone else had an idea of where we are at.
Jarrod Wilson will enroll early. A couple other guys are possibles as well.
Pharaoh Brown is also planning to enroll early.
I was going to pose that question here as well. I count 23 - can anyone tell us who's right?
Depth Chart by Class w/o Posada shows 63 underclassmen for 22 spots in 2012. It had been at 22 previously but Stonum's redshirt and Posada's exit offset. If Brian's right and A LB is gone, that would make for 23.
My count assumed a non-senior LB is gone, that's how I got 23.
28 IIRC, 25 + 3 that can be backdated
I believe it is 28
Edit: slow and steady did nothing for me on this occasion
Very good recovery though. Honestly laughed out loud.
Whatever happened - conditioning issues, homesickness, etc. - good luck to the kid. Hopefully he goes somewhere where he can be happy, play ball, and get a degree.
It's interesting to contrast the reaction at the MGoBlog with that of the Ohio fans when Kalis decommitted. Admittedly different situations and one much more highly ranked player but a level of impact potentially greater in Ann Arbor given the very real depth issues at offensive line. The Michigan fans, as usual, pure class.
Kudos to you, sir.