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Today's GBMW garbage: Mike Cox

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Today's GBMW garbage: Mike Cox

Today GBMW, in response to a question about Mike Cox (no, not mine) and the fact that he's "buried on the depth chart" (um, buried behind Minor and Brown as a redshirt freshman? Blah), GBMW's expert coaching suggests that (1) Cox is not suited for zone scheme running, and (2) agrees with the "questioner" and states that it has no problem with Cox moving to the defense, provided Cox doesn't.

Uhhh, it seems Brandon Minor has made a decent transition from I-formation running to the zone scheme running style. Why can't Cox? Next year, he'd have 3 years of eligibility remaining. He can certainly blossom into a solid power running back.

And, moving him to defense? Really? When next year it'll be him, Shaw and the incoming freshmen? First with Turner, now with this. It seems like GBMW likes to fan the fire. I have found their posts in the past few days to be quite irresponsible.

EDIT: Again, I can't help but chuckle. GBMW's first sentence in response to the "mailbag" question:

"We like Cox."

Really?

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June 3rd, 2009 at 8:35 AM | What about mighty mite? (Score:1)
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Don't forget Vincent Smith or Fitzie if he qualifies.

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June 3rd, 2009 at 8:56 AM | Thanks. (Score:1)
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I unbelievably forgot about Vincent and Fitz.

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June 3rd, 2009 at 8:44 AM | Well, if a kid isn't playing (Score:1)
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Well, if a kid isn't playing as a true freshman, the obvious solution is to switch positions. After all, EVERY good player plays as a true freshman.

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June 3rd, 2009 at 8:54 AM | mike cox is too LARGE to FIT (Score:1)
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mike cox is too LARGE to FIT in SCHEME. just epinion.

No question, Jim.

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June 3rd, 2009 at 9:23 AM | Two words -- (Score:1)
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Owen Schmidt. "Chrisgocomment" must have not watched WVU a couple years ago. RR can find roles for almost any type of player. I'm not saying Cox has to be a FB, but he has the potential to be one. The bottom line is that there are many capable backs at UM right now, and he's not gonna get a real shot at some good PT for at least a year. If you watched Mike before, you saw a guy who hasn't really filled out yet. He needs to add some muscle to his frame, and keep working hard. He looks like a skinny defensive end right now, and he'll be fine under Barwis. I really like having Brown, Minor and Forcier in the backfield all at once. This gives them tons of options, power, speed, and experience at the superback position as well.

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June 3rd, 2009 at 9:34 AM | Poster not only lacks SARCASM (Score:1)
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Poster not only lacks SARCASM detector, also isn't aware of RUNNING joke. No sugarcoat.

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June 3rd, 2009 at 9:35 AM | I was just joking (Score:1)
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I was just joking

No question, Jim.

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June 3rd, 2009 at 9:43 AM | Damn, that's sad (Score:1)
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Apparently this forum is not the place for Cox jokes.

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June 3rd, 2009 at 9:37 AM | I don't know what a (Score:1)
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I don't know what a "superback" is, but I like the sound of it.

Ann Arbor: now the permanent home of the Little Brown Jug

67-22-3 all-time

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June 3rd, 2009 at 9:47 AM | So that's ... (Score:1)
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..what maize jerseys would look like, heh? Not sure what I think of it...

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June 3rd, 2009 at 9:54 AM | Just like "quick" is the name (Score:1)
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Just like "quick" is the name for Greg Robinson's OLB/DE hybrid, "superback" is Rodriguez's name for the tailback in his offense.

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June 3rd, 2009 at 10:53 AM | Huh. Good to know, thanks. (Score:1)
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Huh. Good to know, thanks.

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June 3rd, 2009 at 9:21 AM | forgot one thing (Score:1)
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no sugar-coat.

Question: Do these guys think before they write or have any kind of education?
My personal favorite from their last post...

"We like Cox, he is very hardworking and tough kid. His problem is he more of the downhill I-formation seven yard deep tailback than zone scheme runner."

I mean I'm no grammar nazi but that is just UG-LEE

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June 3rd, 2009 at 9:40 AM | Borderline illiteracy (Score:1)
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GBMW: murdering the English language since... whenever they made the unfortunate decision to start an e-blog.

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June 3rd, 2009 at 11:10 AM | Maize JERSEYS hideous, not (Score:1)
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Maize JERSEYS hideous, not FIT for MICHIGAN. Just EPINION.

Maize n Brew

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June 3rd, 2009 at 2:38 PM | Once and only once... (Score:1)
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I read GBMW for the first and last time last week. The lack of grammar caused my head to explode.

I automatically downvote "B1G"
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June 3rd, 2009 at 9:03 AM | Wow (Score:1)
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I sense there is a disturbance in the Force!

It is so kewl we have one blog reporting on another blog.

We need an intermediary blog to vet this discussion.

I am looking at you, WLA!

Time wounds all heels. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwGXMryTbwE

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June 3rd, 2009 at 9:07 AM | I think this will take care (Score:1)
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I think this will take care of itself. If the content at GBMW isn't worth reading, people won't visit the site and they'll stop running it.

Personally, I never read it until something like this comes up. I never visit it, and I'm not impressed with the content. Not only is it somewhat unreadable visually, but the content is lacking.

In other words, if people stop linking from here, I won't read it again.

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June 3rd, 2009 at 9:22 AM | RR likes Big Running Backs (Score:1)
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RR likes Big Running backs so he might be a good fit in the offense.

www.bighouseblog.com

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June 3rd, 2009 at 9:34 AM | I don't have a problem (Score:1)
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with that. It's just his opinion on a player. Just like I can say that Cox will be the best RB ever, someone can voice another opinion.

The issue is reporting "insider" information that is based on nothing, is vague, and in code.

If GBMW were to report that "my sources say that Cox is a terrible runner and may move to D or transfer" then that is completely different than voicing the opinion that "His problem is he more of the downhill I-formation seven yard deep tailback than zone scheme runner."

"They're stuck with that quarterback (sophomore Braxton Miller) for the next two or three years, that's fine with me. He throws worse than (Tim) Tebow. - Steve Everitt

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June 3rd, 2009 at 9:40 AM | this blog fight is beyond (Score:1)
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this blog fight is beyond stupid

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June 3rd, 2009 at 9:50 AM | critiquing the validity of (Score:1)
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critiquing the validity of blog fights is what all the cool kids do

great and omniscient Grand Poobah of the WLA

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June 3rd, 2009 at 10:01 AM | fine, whatever. go for it. (Score:1)
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fine, whatever. go for it. make an ass of yourself

just what the world needs, another internet tough guy

yawn. this shit got old a long time ago

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June 3rd, 2009 at 10:17 AM | tough guy? it's not like i'm (Score:1)
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tough guy? it's not like i'm challenging someone to throw down in the parking lot or something.

great and omniscient Grand Poobah of the WLA

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June 3rd, 2009 at 10:43 AM | I agree. I may be hated for (Score:1)
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I agree. I may be hated for this, but it is a blog that actually delivers original info. (although very poorly written and very possibly inaccurate or illegally attained) versus a blog that makes fun of that blog and throws in gay jokes and unicorns... hilaaaaarious.

or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.

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June 3rd, 2009 at 10:45 AM | Actually, I think the WLA may (Score:1)
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Actually, I think the WLA may be winning if you have to make the "although very poorly written and very possibly inaccurate or illegally attained" disclaimer.

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June 3rd, 2009 at 11:07 AM | Ummm (Score:1)
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...it is a blog that actually delivers original info. (although very poorly written and very possibly inaccurate...

Stuff that is made up (or based on wild speculation) is very often original.

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June 3rd, 2009 at 11:08 AM | I mean, there's (Score:1)
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I mean, there's MichiganSportsCenter, VarsityBlue, MgoBlog, RBUAS, etc. The WLA doesn't actually try to provide news. Sometimes it's funny, sometimes it's not (I'm looking at you dex), sometimes it's MSPaint gone haywire. It's not everyone's idea of humor, nor is it intended to be. It's free, pick and choose what you'd like to read, and if you don't like it, make fun or it or skip it. The only time WLA bitches about GBMW is for exactly what you said "(although very poorly written and very possibly inaccurate or illegally attained)".

We at WLA may be assholes, but we have integrity (excluding dex).

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June 3rd, 2009 at 11:21 AM | :-( (Score:1)
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:-(

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June 3rd, 2009 at 11:27 AM | I agree with you. I was just (Score:1)
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I agree with you. I was just pointing out the irrelevence of blog wars.

or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.

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June 3rd, 2009 at 12:25 PM | It's the offseason (Score:1)
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And E-blog fights are more interesting than baseball

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June 3rd, 2009 at 12:52 PM | +1. I really don't know where (Score:1)
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+1. I really don't know where all this WLA animosity is coming from. Eroc didn't out Justin Turner, when he (assuming) originally posted he didn't specify who was having problems qualifying. It was only after Rivals started saying it was Turner, and then it spread here, that he acknowledged that it was Turner.

Could Eroc be making up a possible rift in the Athletic Department? Sure, but who cares? If he hedges his information to the point that point it loses almost all its weight anyways.

This Cox "controversy" really takes the cake though. Eroc wrote that if Cox isn't seeing time at running back (at an unspecified point in time) Eroc would see no problem moving him to another position if Cox was OK with it.

Seriously what young non-starter couldn't you say that for? No sugarcoat.

Galileo was also chastised.

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June 3rd, 2009 at 7:18 PM | OK, I re-registered here (Score:1)
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OK, I re-registered here because I hate when people, including Brian, distort my point:

First, lets be clear:

GBMW did not report that "Turner didn't walk." Nor did they report that "Turner didn't graduate". They reported that he failed his Ohio State exam. One of these (whether he walked) is publicly observable. The other is private record. I realize that GBMW didn't uncover this information, and was merely passing it on. That doesn't mean the information should be in the public domain. We don't publish unreleased academic information (unless we're Jim Carty), because it's illegal Period.

Second, my point was this:

GBMW writes that Kelvin Grady had "family values issues" because of an overheard conversation they won't convey from a person they won't reveal. In another, they communicate private, unreleased information about a high school kid. In another, they say that RR and Martin have a disagreement. They back up NONE of these things.

THEN, in a 4th post, they say that kids shouldn't be sensitive to online criticism. Communicating Turner's private information isn't "criticism". Making up that RR and Martin may have a conflict isn't "critcism". So their defense post didn't actually defend any of what they did. They can criticize a kid's pad level or tackling ability all they want, but essentially writing that Kelvin Grady is an asshole because they eavesdropped a comment they won't tell us uttered by a person they won't tell us is bullshit. That's all.

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June 3rd, 2009 at 7:25 PM | You're back! Hey I'll be in (Score:1)
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You're back! Hey I'll be in Chicago for the 4th of July. Staying at the Drake. Prob going out on Rush St. You in?

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June 3rd, 2009 at 7:25 PM | Love the Drake (Score:1)
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Love the Drake

No question, Jim.

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June 3rd, 2009 at 7:29 PM | +1 (Score:1)
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+1

not just "douchey" MGoBlog user, but now TRUSTED MGoBlog user

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June 3rd, 2009 at 7:30 PM | Funny story, my parents think (Score:1)
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Funny story, my parents think that I was conceived at the Drake (on St. Patty's Day, no less), and that was almost my first name.

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June 3rd, 2009 at 7:29 PM | The Drake! Aren't we a (Score:1)
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The Drake! Aren't we a baller? Yeah, probably around then.

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June 3rd, 2009 at 7:32 PM | Bad economy, good rates on (Score:1)
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Bad economy, good rates on hotels. It was 19 bucks to upgrade to a suite. It was between there and the sofitel, did I make the right choice?

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June 3rd, 2009 at 7:34 PM | It depends if you like (Score:1)
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It depends if you like new-swank or old-style luxury.

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June 3rd, 2009 at 7:36 PM | I take it then (Score:1)
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That you didn't get the ax.

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June 3rd, 2009 at 7:43 PM | I'm going with the gf and we (Score:1)
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I'm going with the gf and we usually stay at new-swank type places, so we opted for the classic. I was on the fence, but she's stayed at the sofitel for work and wanted to try something new. I just wanted to see if I was really missing out on something cool.

Our first thought was the W, but they have those everywhere, and they are opening one in Hollywood.

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June 4th, 2009 at 12:36 AM | Chitown: GBMW didn't say it (Score:1)
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Chitown: GBMW didn't say it was Turner who failed the exam until it was already all over Rivals, Scout and here. So why are you all riled up at GBMW and not Rivals or Scout?

Also, having read your stuff, I know you're a smart guy, and I know you understand how quotation marks work. GBMW doesn't write anywhere that Kelvin Grady had "family values issues", in fact, the word values never appears in their post. So what's the deal? Did you just not read the post carefully or did they edit the post or what?

Galileo was also chastised.

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June 4th, 2009 at 6:44 AM | I think he's saying that, (Score:1)
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I think he's saying that, regardless of who uncovered the info, Turner's failure shouldn't have been reported.

It's like if someone took my medical information from a doctor's office...and then posted it on the internet. You would hope that the proprietor of a blog would have more of a sense of responsibility than that.

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June 4th, 2009 at 9:36 AM | This is part of what I'm (Score:1)
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This is part of what I'm saying, yes.

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June 4th, 2009 at 9:54 AM | mejunglechop:I apologize for (Score:1)
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mejunglechop:

I apologize for quoting from memory - in my full piece, I quoted the entire paragraph verbatim. What they said was:

The only real problem we see is he has been out of football for several years along with "family issues" towards the football program or the university in general. If anybody was in earshot of this family member during the spring scrimmage will know what we are talking about.

The first thing, whatever - that's valid concern. The thing about "family issues towards the football program or the University" implies that he hates the team or the school possibly because of his brother's drunkening. Now, this may be true, or it may not be true. But, if they're going to write it, they should provide some evidence for it. Citing an eavesdropped conversation from someone they won't reveal who said something they won't repeat isn't "backup". Especially when every indication is that he quit the hoops team because Beilein and he didn't want to play the same way - not because of a grudge about how the U handled his brother's DUI.

Again: if they have news, or information, that Grady hates the football team or the University, print it. Seriously. But provide us with the fucking information - that's what has value. Cladestinely spying on a comment by someone close to Grady's family and then posting your interpretation of it, without the actual info or context on the web is gossip-mongering, and it's not "inside information" - it's being a tittering 12-year old.

FINALLY, finally, excusing the gossiping about private records, Grady's "family issues" with the football team, and a potential conflict between RR and Martin as "criticism" is bullshit. It's not "criticism". "Crtiticism is "Grady is too small", "Turner can't tackle", or "RR made a shitty choice of a Defensive Coordinator". This is unsubstantiated gossip, gotten through their own imagination (what I think the RR/BM thing is), or eavesdropping on other people.

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June 4th, 2009 at 10:08 AM | Criticism (Score:1)
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That is actually what really bugs me about their blog. They claim to provide the straight truth but they never actually come out and voice opinions on anything. It's mostly just weaselly hints and second-hand anonymous gossip.

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June 3rd, 2009 at 9:43 AM | GBMW has gone from amusingly (Score:1)
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GBMW has gone from amusingly illiterate to mildly annoying to Carrot Top. They need to stop.

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June 3rd, 2009 at 9:49 AM | Don't malign Carrot Top. (Score:1)
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Or we'll have to fight. You have a problem with steroid taking, clown looking prop comics?

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June 3rd, 2009 at 9:44 AM | "He looks like a skinny defensive end right now," (Score:1)
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?? Cox is listed at 6-0 and 215, and you think "defensive end?"

Or does this mean that RR is now recruiting extremely short DEs?


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