Sounds about right :-)
i like 'em both
Per Hoke's press conference this morning, Shane Morris will start the Copper Bowl in place of Devin Gardner, whose fourth metatarsal finally fell off after hanging precariously from a piece of torn cloth that was being used to hold together what remained of his last rib. Or, you know. Per people on twitter Gardner broke his foot against OSU, then kept playing. Add to the list of people who should never have to pay for beer within 4 miles of Ann Arbor the rest of his life (once he's eligible to have beers bought for him).
In the recent practice report video are guys talking about Morris; you can take Jehu Chesson:
"He does a good job, you know, reading the defense, you know, getting the ball to us. A lot of people talk about his arm; he has a good arm, great arm, um, uh, [shakes head]. The other people talk about does he throw the ball too hard. You know, with Shane, whenever he's going to be in the game, or when he's in the game or what, he's going to make the right throws at the right time and the right decisions because that's what a Michigan quarterback is expected to do."
…and Taylor Lewan:
"He has the potential to be an extremely good player. [Thing about lefty QB means Lewan is no longer blind side]. I think given the opportunity, and if he stays confident and all those things, he's going to be very successful."
…at their words. Or you can read between lines and use your expertise from watching Lie to Me to discern panicky things from Jehu's microexpressions. Being a negative nancy blogger I shall of course do the latter.
Also in that video the starting linebackers are both practicing, so there's that at least.
Sounds about right :-)
At the very least there are long-term recruiting implications. There may also be an impact recruiting in the short term. 8-5, while it's hardly what the team and fanbase wants as a final record, is a lot better than 7-6. It's a chance for the team to play well on national television, for young players to get some experience, to develop a sense of team identity and momentum moving forward into the 2014 season, and so on.
As a fanbase, we may not feel that there's a lot riding on the game, but I suspect that it's fairly important to the program.
but if the difference between a win and a loss is the difference between a "sorta bad" season (or however you'd like to describe it) and "pretty bad" (same goes as above), then isn't it also true that there is a lot riding on this game?
I'd also like to see players like Jeremy Gallon and Taylor Lewan go out as winners. They deserve it.
EDIT: I also get that this season has been tough on the psyche of the fanbase, and of MGoBlog. I don't want to check out on my fandom. What's great about college football is that every game matters. We should fight the malaise.
as a meaningless game.
Also, "what are they really playing for?" doesn't apply.
When you come down to it, there's only one reason you play when you play for Michigan.
call this a meaningless game are losers. This is a pivotal game for young kids that could vault them into a great 2104 ... esp the QB.
would be one HELL of a vault.
Winter weight training and the early enrollees. Then there is signing day in February. If losses caused prospecitve recruits to rethink their position, so might a bowl victory. Then there is spring practice in March/April. The big vault will be the relatively dead period from mid-April until the beginning of August.
Football season is just too damn short.
I doubt that most recruits would look at one game and make their judgment solely off of that. 8-5 isn't much better than 7-6 and win or lose, recruits will look at all of last season and the upcoming season to make their judgments on where they go.
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it's not just one game: we've dropped four of our last five games (and five of our last seven). Losing five out of the last six -- that'd be really ugly.
7-6 is barelty better than .500 and sounds it. 8-5 is three games over and sounds to anyone, like a better season no matter what happened. Just as if a win was the difference between 9-4 and 10-3: 10-3 is WAY better than the one game difference in math. A win won't change the disappointment that was this year, but anyone that says it doesn't matter (the guy above) is simply, wrong.
I am with you. Many people seem annoyed or upset about this, but this is a fairly meaningless bowl game. If Devin were able to play, then of course I want him to, but since he isn't, this is the best scenario - Shane gets much needed experience and Devin gets to heal and look forward to next season.
I'm also with you. Schofield is very good tackle as well. It will be very interesting to see how he does in this reversals ofpass blocking roles
I just don't see it with Schofield. I think he might do okay against Mueller because I'm not sure that Mueller is anything special. He's 6'2", 245 lbs. and got a lot of sacks/tackles for loss against a pretty weak schedule in a pass-happy league. Maybe I'm wrong about Schofield, but I don't see a huge difference between him and Mark Huyge.
Got to get your feet wet sometime. Go get em Sugar Shane.
It's not piss running down your leg
Hearing this news, I find myself, how do you say...
Exceptionally well played, sir.
Intolerable - no matter what.
I think many of us, myself included, don't have much in the way of expectations.
That to me is when the board goes crazy, when you watch the potential vs. ND and then see the duds in games soon thereafter. When you watch the offense vs. IU and OSU then think about the eggs they laid throughout the year.
There are no expectations with Shane at QB, and don't give me that expectation of a QB at Michigan crap. He's a freshman QB with his first start behind a below average offensive line.
What will drive me bat-shit crazy is if Borges doesn't put him in a chance to succeed. If Borges is calling 7 step drops with multiple reads. If he's rolling him out to his right vs. his left, if he's calling naked PA bootlegs that Gardner always had to pump fake to get around...THEN I'm going to go nuts.
I just want to see what Shane can do and I want to see him put in the best position to win and play well. If he doesn't, oh well, he's a true freshman. But let's just see what happens.
We're in the Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl after a bad year by our own standards...this isn't us trying to win a B1G Championship or go to the BCS. IMO, it'll be a lot different.
It'll also be 11pm EST. So you'll have the drunks, but plenty of people will be getting ready for bed.
I agree with everything you said.
I'm so sick of the fans who say that Michigan fans aren't happy no matter what happens. Or that Michigan fans are only satisfied with an undefeated, national championship season. Sure, there are some people like that, but its a small minority that every major program has in their midst.
Generally, people are disappointed for legitimate reasons. We were 8-5 last year, but the negativity wasn't nearly as bad as it was this year. Why? Because that was an 8-5 with losses that made sense. Alabama is Alabama. Notre Dame had a great defense (outside of the Alabama game) and ended up in the title game, plus there was a feeling they were due against us. Denard got hurt against Nebraska. We took top 10 teams Ohio State and South Carolina down to the wire.
This year, its a bad 8-5/7-6. People are right to be mad after games like Penn State, Nebraska and Iowa because those were bad losses to teams that should have been beaten. It was a weak schedule that was set up for us to have at least a 9-3 season and we were lucky to be 7-5.
Please remember that this is really nothing more than an exhibition game. Nothing more than one more win on the resume ... and we are starting a true freshman. Hell yes I hope Shane has an outstanding game and damn right I want to see a victory .... but bat-shit crazy hit me in the 4th quarter at PSU. Watching Borges refuse to put his foot on the gas, man coverage on Gallon and Funchess and running time after time into a 9 man box. NOW THAT WAS THE TIME TO GO BAT-SHIT CRAZY. Then add Nebraska and Iowa .... because those games actually meant something.
Go Shane and Go Blue!
Well, at least now the burned redshirt isn't totally for naught, he'll actually get some real game experience out of it.
Kid sure has a quick release. Those snap then throw a quick bubble passes he made seemed to be out of his hand in 0.2 seconds
Where might I find these practice films?
website has one in particular. Quick, quick, quick.
Which way did Chesson shake his head? Was it side to side? Up and down? How fast was he shaking it? What were his eyes doing when he shook his head? Was he smiling?
Chesson has a bit of a smile and he said other's say he might be throwing hard. My take is that Chesson was saying he was throwing harder than what they were used to and he makes the pass. Watching the video of Morris practicing, he seems to have cat like quickness to his release. Very little wind up. So he's throwing like Dan Marino and his release would make T. Brady proud. I think we can live with that.
Edit to add. Morris looked pretty good on what looked like a QB draw play.
"Morris looked pretty good on what looked like a QB draw play."
Matthew Thomas is not impressed.
Panic seems a little dramatic. Shane was recruited as a quarterback after all. It's less than ideal to play a true freshman qb in his first start at the Copper Bowl but that's life. Replace "Copper" with "Rose" and I'd panic.
This makes for some great excitement around a fairly innocuous game. I love it!
Hey that's certainly an interesting take: seeing as an exhibition as opposed to the meaningful bowl game it of course isn't. I'll adopt it. Thanks.
Probably something like 14/30 200 yds 2 TD 2 INT as we lose 31-21
Michigan is going to win this game.
Kansas State has won 5 of their last 6, we've lost 4 of our last 5 and we're going to be putting in a true freshman QB in his first start. Everything is pointing to a loss.
And you can bet your left nut that the offense is going to be wildly conservative. You think Borges is going to open the playbook with a true freshman QB? Yeah right.
It might be taboo to not believe Michigan will win everything, but we're probably going to lose
Shane was a 67-star high school recruit; he will be fine.
He gets to play for an OC who doesn't even have a QB coach, and who had Russell Bellomy so ill prepared, the poor kid embarrassed himself vs Nebraska last year. Sure Shane has the talent, but I for one would be very surprised if Shade had a great day. K State is going to pull a page out of MSU/PSU/Nebraska's hat and blitz the heck out of him, and stack the box, and that's the scheme Borges has proven entirely incapable of scheming around.
This game will either be close, or a KState blow out. Signs point to a loss. Hope I'm wrong.
...if they have anything close to the talent of the opposition, rarely get blown out.
I guess Bama had a lot more.
Fergodsakes, a lot of teams - GOOD teams - don't have designated quarterback coaches. That includes Auburn, where Rhett Ashlee is the OC/QB coach, who are in the national championship game.
Don't argue logic with Spock.
I hope Shane plays well and I hope Michigan wins.
If neither happens, I don't think it really matters in the long run.
I'm actually kind of happy to go into a Michigan game that has both a low upside and an even lower downside. A win will make me happy, a loss will make me shrug.
I think this game has some upside in that a good showing builds confidence and points to a favorable future with Morris as QB (after Gardner leaves). I do agree there is little downside. That's probably the best position of all, some upside and little downside.
You have 584 points in one month! Stop being a points whore and sit back and watch the regulars from time to time.
Big John will be smiling down on Shane during his first start for sure.
Go Blue and Go Pilots!
If this were a Jan. 1st bowl he would have the game of his life. But sadly enough this game is in the dreaded 2013.
hadn't thought much about the linebackers with all the Shane hubbub, but that is great news. The D is gong to be relied on heavily in this game.
I don't know why they received such a pass against Ohio. Morgan played at least the full first half, and was trucked/swallowed by their excellent OL just as Bolden and Gedeon were. I'm not sure Ross - who's also undersized - would have fared much better. Quicker and better instincts sure, but there wasn't a lot of room for him to maneuver around blocks.
Against good OLs, our DL doesn't demand doubles, and our LBs don't smash and plug holes hard enough to consistently stop the run. We need both units to take a big step forward in the offseason if this unit is going to go from above average to very good.
And damn it Bolden, learn how to take on blockers with some anger and sell out. BC you'll be quite good when that happens.
I expect we'll see the OSU gameplan. Lots of play action throws and running behind Green and Smith. Doubt we'll see a deep throw as the timing on those is tough, but rollouts to throw to the tight end would make a lot of sense.
From the Kansas St. perspective, I assume they'll make Shane prove he can throw the ball with a lot of pressure just like everybody else has been doing to us all year. A 3-step drop/slant over the middle for a TD would end that experiment and then KSU ends up in a zone defense.
We'll see... I'm not as worried about the offense as I am about the defense...