Thursday Recruiting Has The Visits Before The Visits
Prepare your finest meats
Coach Hoke had a nice feast with the Mone family last night for his in-home visit. pic.twitter.com/DaKu7m8S0q
— Steve Lorenz (@TremendousUM) December 4, 2013
Oblig meat picture
Michigan is having a massive visit weekend, as people are wont to do during their spring games. They're also having a massive visit Thursday. This is a bit unusual but for whatever reason Michigan has a handful of top 2019 prospects on hand today: MO ATH Isaiah Williams, NJ ATH Ronnie Hickman, KY DT Jacob Lacey, MO WR Marcus Washington, and MO LB Shammond Cooper will all be on campus today per Lorenz. The most modestly-ranked of these gentlemen is Cooper, the #127 prospect in the 2019 composite.
But wait, there's more: brothers Dyami and Khafre Brown out of North Carolina are also scheduled to be on campus; Dyami is an '18 WR/DB and Khafre is a '19 RB. Both are four stars in their respective classes. Michigan's also hosting 3* dual-threat 2018 QB James Graham out of Georgia; Lorenz say he is a take because he is a "unique" prospect in search of an offensive fit.
It's unlikely that Michigan gets a commit out of any of those guys but it would not surprise if a few of them emerge as serious targets, with one or two even expected to join the class sometime down the road. Michigan is doing work with on-campus visits these days. Take the recruitment of GA RB Christian Turner, who arrived in Ann Arbor as a silent ND commit:
In fact, it was, as Steve Wiltfong posted here yesterday, a done deal to Notre Dame coming out of his unofficial visit. However, Michigan worked some real magic on their opportunity with him, making this one a surprise commitment in my opinion, but a good one.
They've popped up out of nowhere for a number of guys, most notably Aubrey Solomon, in the last year.
So. Wiltfong has an early Michigan CB in for Williams, the #51 player in the 2019 class, FWIW, with Oregon the challenger. ND is the favorite for Lacey on the crystal ball but the vibe coming out of the Cleveland Nike camp is that Michigan has a shot to make the proverbial "move" today. Sounded like it when he talked to Scout's Josh Newkirk:
“It would mean the world,” Lacey said. “Michigan has always been a great program. I love the way they play defense. They always win and that’s what I love about it.”
Adding an offer would put Michigan in a prime spot in his recruitment too.
“They would definitely be towards the top,” Lacey said. “Jim Harbaugh is a great coach. There is nothing terrible about Michigan at all, they win, they have great academics, I can’t wait to go.”
Lacey's a straight A student with a brother at Army so he's a M/ND sort.
Gant visit saga
After an initial reports that OH LB Dallas Gant was undecided on a spring game visit between Ohio State and Michigan, he was first supposed to go to Ann Arbor, and then up in the air again, and now expected in Columbus. So there's that. Lorenz got the vibe that Gant's top two might be Michigan and Notre Dame, which is a thing when he's got only OSU predictions on his crystal ball; the OSU visit suggests that might not be the case.
Since Gant is in Toledo he can pop up for a visit whenever he wants; if he does so before his commitment then Michigan has a very good shot. If not it's happy trails.
Hopes not particularly up section
5* CA WR Jalen Hall is one of those California kids everyone assumes is going to USC because they always go to USC, but he says he's not necessarily going to USC:
“Everybody says ‘USC,’ and that may be the case, and it may not be the case,” Hall said.
I still think he's going to USC, but Michigan has been the destination for multiple trips already:
“Michigan is for sure in there,” Hall said. “I visited twice and I plan on visiting again. Every time I go down there, everything has been cool. I just want to talk more football with them and see more about the school.”
He's still going to USC, but Donovan Warren does happen?
Elsewhere in shaking our fists at Los Angeles-area schools, it feels like most people are resigning themselves to UCLA commitments for the Bishop Gorman duo of NV TE Brevin Jordan and NV QB Dorian Thompson-Robinson. Lorenz admits that Michigan "has their work cut out for them" on Jordan's spring game unofficial, which also starts today. Meanwhile, Thompson-Robinson may have his mind made up already:
The "nation's top uncommitted QB" won't be uncommitted for too much longer ...
— DTR. (@DoriansTweets) April 13, 2017
Sam Webb was feeling UCLA a week or so ago and hasn't changed his tune, so it'll take one of those real good visits to overturn things here. Possible, but not probable.
If DTR's recruitment does lead him to Westwood, it probably won't take long for Michigan to find its guy: AZ QB Tyler Shough has locked in an unofficial for May 13th. Meanwhile this is an interesting development for FL QB Joe Milton, who just fielded a UGA crystal ball from a Florida 247 mod:
Just not convinced he goes to UF.
Didn't attend UF's spring game. Will be at Michigan this weekend, who might crank up the heat if Dorian Thompson-Robinson looks to be heading to UCLA. UGA has been after him hard. Overall, the recruitment is somewhat unknown, but I wanted to make a pick other than 'foggy' and UGA seemed like the best option.
That's a "not Florida" pick more than a UGA pick and with Milton on campus at the same time DTR is they could easily exit that visit with a big lead.
Michigan's got a small class on the horizon and plenty of tailbacks so I'm guessing that GA RB Christian Turner's commit closes the door for other tailbacks. Michigan might continue to recruit a few because crootin'. AL RB Asa Martin said he would take a spring visit a week or so ago; we'll see if that's still on. 3* ATH Michael Barrett is a high school quarterback who Michigan recently offered...
Beyond blessed to receive an offer from the University of Michigan @LHSvikingsFB @RecruitGeorgia @DemetricDWarren @HamiltonESPN pic.twitter.com/K44AW0qq6K
— MB1️⃣ (@mikebarrett_MB1) March 29, 2017
...and Wiltfong says Michigan has a "great shot" with him. He might be a DB for Michigan; if he's a running back going to be a tight fit.
Additional grudging 2019 bits
Here's a MI OL Devontae Dobbs highlight reel that's kind of good for a sophomore:
Come do business with @YourVideoSpot they hooked me up with a reasonable price. It's quick and easy. The quality is great #Lit pic.twitter.com/IR5NNjJHSZ
— Devontae Dobbs (@Devontae_Dobbs) April 1, 2017
Wiltfong runs down the current status for various top 2019 kids and Michigan comes in for a few mentions. He still believes Michigan leads for GA DT Chris Hinton. Good news and bad news: he is visiting Stanford this weekend and has ND and Cal on his lists so this is a very academics-focused gentleman who seems relatively easy to pry out of the south. Bad news: visiting Stanford, and those jerkos have a tendency to grab prospects who are prime material in Ann Arbor.
CA DE Kayvon Thibodeaux is another USC-USC-USC guy early, which Wiltfong confirms, but he and his 4* 2019 teammate Charles Mincy Jr apparently "love Harbaugh," and Donovan Warren does happen I guess?
Michigan does not draw mention for GA LB Owen Pappoe or CA QB JT Daniels, both five stars who have had some interest in the past.
4* VA LB/DE Brandon Smith attended a satellite camp last year and is into Michigan as a result:
“I’d love to visit Michigan and am hoping to hear from them,” Smith told Wolverine247 on Monday. “I had a chance to meet Coach Harbaugh at the Old Dominion satellite camp last summer. It was a great camp. Coach Harbaugh brings a lot of energy and I really enjoyed it.”
4* OH SDE Zach Harrison recently visited:
“I’d like to go back for another visit,” he said. “I don’t know when yet, though. I’ll probably make it back for a game, because my grandparents are up there.”
Still early in his recruitment; he says he spent his youth climbing trees instead of watching football so he'll be open to anyone.
May I make a suggestion? Would it be possible to embed links to the prospects' recruiting profiles (I find 247 the most informative mainly because of the composite rankings) within these updates? I find myself googling most of the prospects as I am reading the update and having a clickable link to the profile would be helpful, IMO.
On mobile, so plus 1 to this comment.
That's at least 2 'crootin updates without the supposedly obligatory Faalele section
to ask about Fa'alele
How have you not joined a Talking Cars Tuesday thread to talk about your 1964 Impala?
I wrapped it around a telephone pole.
UCLA is the Georgia of the West; recruit a lot of good players, but rarely win anything. (1980s excluded)
*ducks*
Dude, I love Michigan and hate Georgia as much as the next guy, but I feel like maybe you could say similar things about Michigan, unfortunately.
Even have an 800 lb. gorilla football/recruiting rival that has an unbreakable hold over what should be part of that schools recruiting territory.
USC gets LA recruits the way OSU gets Ohio kids, it's just one of life's rules.
Even if DTR commits to UCLA, I wouldn't necessarily say Michigan is out of it. Mora has got to be on a short leash over there, and if he tanks another year with "The Rosen One" as his QB, he may not last long enough for DTR to even get to campus.
Depending on who UCLA brings in after that, DTR might decide he needs to look elsewhere. Longshot of course, but we're not out of this race.
I could be wrong, but the DTR recruitment feels like it has a lot to do with who is in front of him at Michigan.
April 14th, 2017 at 10:12 AM ^
This is what I'm thinking too.. Rosen is gone before DTR hits campus. At Michigan he's got Peters AND McCaffery ahead of him day 1. Much tougher route to play early at Michigan, plus he had the Jedd Fisch connection so going to UCLA makes sense in more ways than one.
but our QB slot will be filled long before that. Would we make a push for him in that scenario?
I'd be amazed if there is room left for DTR if/when Mora leaves UCLA.
My oh my how the bad times are past us in the recruiting world.
but think how good recruiting would be if we could actually, you know, play in a conference championship one in a while.
Anyone else have an involuntary shudder at the name "Isaiah Williams"?
Lorenz also confirmed that Dallas Gant is not related to Allen Gant. I think most of us thought that they were related in some way.
I'm certain that I read something from Brian or Ace saying they were cousins. #fakenews
Right. The comment was something like get Dallas' big cousin Allen to talk some sense into him
According to Lorenz even Dallas thought they were related. It turns out their families just know each other.
That's interesting. Even Sam Webb said they were "distant cousins." He said it as if they only recently found that out, as in the cousins didn't even know they were cousins.
If he goes to UCLA he believes and I'm sure they telling him he can play early. He looks at the Michigan depth chart and if he's lucky he plays in 2020. Not saying the kid is afraid of competition, and I know we got mama on our side, but maybe he's not our guy. The package deal does look enticing tho, Jordan reminds me of Asasi.
Doubt Jordan and DTR is a package deal. Jordan seems to really be favoring Miami and DTR seems like he's UCLA bound. Een Bruin fans are resigning themeselves to that possibility. Tight End will have to be filled from elsewhere this year I think.
we have to have an advantage with him, right?
As someone who knows him through school he's only ever worn OSU stuff and given me a hard time for any Michigan stuff I've worn.
April 14th, 2017 at 10:00 AM ^
There is a weird tradition in Southern California in which super high profile guys who are SC locks such as Adoree Jackson, Iman Marshall, Jack Jones, etc. do this thing in which they pretend they are up for grabs when they are absolutely not. The more conspiracy minded among other schools fans think they are colluding with the USC staff to get other teams to waste resources recruiting them. Those with their heads out of their butts contend that these guys are teenagers and are doing what teenagers do which is enjoying the attention and screwing around because its fun.
In any case keep this in mind, Donavan Warrens happen, but there's usually some indication that they're up for grabs beyond vague statements.
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