I can't tell if this is supposed to be a joke. In the very sentence you praise Hand's apparent valuation of education you make a grammatical error using the objective case of the pronoun instead of the nominative. Regardless, I agree that guys actually valuing education in college ball is rare. However, I don't think it is rare for kids to say that they value education and then do nothing to back it up. Only time will tell whether Da'Shawn is serious or not.
Thursday Recruitin' Wants A QB/KR
Michigan Probably Leads For A Five-Star Dual-Threat QB. Wait, What?
Michigan's 2015 quarterback situation is the subject of much conjecture and little more, as the only prospect offered at the position—California five-star Josh Rosen—has stated that he's not interested in the Wolverines. Several names have been thrown out there as potential backup options, with player types ranging from pocket statues to Gardner-like dual threats. If Michigan wants to go the latter route—and Al Borges seems more open to the idea now that the NFL is heading in that direction—then a five-star option has emerged in CA ATH Kevin Dillman, per 247's Ryan Bartow [free article, also contains sources saying that JuJu Smith currently favors Notre Dame and Alabama over the field right now, and Michigan gets mentioned among the leaders of several 2015 prospects]:
3- Kevin Dillman, 5-star QB, La Mirada (Calif.)
Michigan and Nebraska are his Top 2. If Michigan offers, the Wolverines could likely land a commitment this winter or spring.
“I grew up watching Tom Brady. If there was one offer I could wish for it would be Michigan. I really like their coaching staff,” - 5-star QB Kevin Dillman, La Mirada
Please and thank you, right? Well, we'll see. Dillman's sophomore highlights (above) show a lot more of the athlete side—the first clip is a kick return—than the downfield passing aspect that Borges will focus on heavily when deciding whom to offer. Personally, I'd love to see Michigan go the dual-threat route, and if Dillman has enough to work with as a passer, he seems like the best available—and highly interested—option.
Nobody seems to have a clear picture of the 2015 QB pecking order after Rosen, though, and I'm assuming the coaches are hoping to evaluate several options more extensively once junior film starts rolling in. With room for just one QB in the class, this approach makes sense—the coaches can't afford to miss.
One such option is Brother Rice QB Alex Malzone, who's off to a strong start this season. He's the headlining visitor for Minnesota in a quiet weekend for uncommitted prospects and another prospect who's likely to commit if offered, though I think Dillman and a handful of other quarterbacks are higher priorities. Malzone is mentioned as one of five Midwest juniors "on the rise" this season—along with Cass Tech RB Mike Weber—by Allen Trieu.
[Hit THE JUMP to see which Michigan commit is nominated for Gatorade's national player of the year—yeah, you probably guessed it—plus evaluations of a few commits and more.]
There's a 2% Chance That You're About To Freak Out
Sam Webb catches up with Jabrill Peppers to talk about his recruitment of Da'Shawn Hand ($) [emphasis mine]:
Sam Webb: Why are you confident Michigan is going to get Da'Shawn Hand?
Jabrill Peppers: “He is down for the education first and then the athletics. He wants to be an engineer and Michigan has the top engineering school, one of the top engineering schools. He definitely sees the bigger picture. I think he is open to see all the guys that we have already and just coming in and joining our unit. Bottom line is there is no place like Michigan. I know he felt that on that visit. He was able to do one thing that I couldn’t do and that was to attend the Michigan and Notre Dame game. That atmosphere was crazy, I know it was crazy and I know he was loving it. You can fit any college stadium in there at least one time. I’m feel it when I’m out there playing. I’m 98% sure that we are going to get him.”
So that's nice.
While we've heard plenty about Peppers, his Michigan commit teammate, OT Juwann Bushell-Beatty, often gets overshadowed in the process. Tim Sullivan caught last weekend's Paramus Catholic-Cleveland St. Ignatius matchup and came away impressed with JBB's athleticism and strength while noting a few areas for improvement ($):
It is easy to see why Bushell-Beatty is not considered a finished product, however. In addition to a body that needs to be molded by a college strength and conditioning program, his technique could use some refining as well. He is a bit of a waist-bender, and puts his head down too frequently in run blocking, which can allow defenders to shed his blocks more easily. Many of his issues are typical of young linemen, and a redshirt year to get in the weight room and to learn technique should be enough to bring him up to speed.
Personally, I'd much rather have an offensive line recruit with the requisite size, strength, and athleticism but in need of technique work than vice versa; this goes double for JBB, who moved "exceptionally well" despite having a "bit of a belly," according to Tim—get him in the weight room and practice him up a bit and he could be a force.
In other commit-related stuff, 247 posted cut-ups of Freddy Canteen from last weekend:
Aside from the fumble on the reverse, everything here looks very good: his route-running, acceleration, top speed, and hands all impress, and he looks to be an intelligent player as well—I like the way he works his way back to the quarterback when a play breaks down.
Finally, Tim also watched Shaun Crawford's dominant performance against Erie McDowell—I'm pretty sure The Wolverine found a way to clone Tim, and the results have been great—and he concludes that the only thing keeping Crawford from potential five-star status is his size ($). Crawford shows off everything you'd want in a corner, though, including being a force in run support; even if he doesn't grow another inch, he's a top-notch prospect.
I've been remiss in not posting these segments before, as they're ten minutes of TomVH covering pressing Michigan recruiting topics—this week's edition includes talk about Malik McDowell, Alex Malzone, and the 2015 quarterback class as a whole.
I understand that we beat ND, but we don't exactly look "good" so far this season...
Notre Dame recruits kids whether they are good, bad or otherwise. It's the... uhhhh... glory or whatever. Jesus something something tradition.
saying stuff like this during a down year for M; god nose we've had our share the last few years. But then, we're Michigan, etcetera.
Does Dillman remind anyone else of Jake Locker when he was in highschool, as far as playing style goes?
Yes, but it's possible that it's just because the unis look similar.
So there is a 5 star QB who wants a Michigan offer and would likely commit quickly if offered. What is the hold up?
I think Ace addressed this very well in the post.
Remember, 5* doesn't mean perfect. He could be a 5* athlete, and a 3-4* arm. When the coaches want a 5* arm and the most athletic guy who will instantly commit from that group of guys.
If that QB (based on the athleticism shown in his highlights) had the type of arm* Borges is looking for in a QB, he would probably be the number 1 overall recruit in the nation.
*IMPORTANT: That QB could have a 5* arm as well, and the Michigan staff may just want to evaluate further before seeing it. I am not a QB Guru, nor am I an expert in anything football.
FWIW, I heard JC Shurburtt on with Bill King this morning and he said if Dillman didn't suffer some injuries or a injury (cant recall exactly what he said) and didn't spend time playing some other positions that he might have been rated as the #1 overall player to 24/7. I don't quite see that in his highlights but obviously there are people out there who do this for a living that see something really special in him.
Thanks for the inside info. (or just the info.)
I was basically speculating on reasons why the coaching staff may not of pulled the trigger yet. I am not so well versed in 2015 recruiting yet. So I have no opinion on the kid. He sure as hell looked athletic in that highlight video though.
No problem. I wasn't trying to argue what you said or anything. I agree with you. Just thought I'd share what I heard this morning as there was a long discussion on this board about him yesterday or the day before.
I like dual threat and pocket passers. If I had my pick I would take a pocket passer that has a good pocket presence. Tom Brady isn't very athletic but he can work that pocket with the best of them.
The little bitty Michigan helmet - When Tom is big time and uber famous I think he'll get a chuckle out of the props budget for this segment.
I think it's fairly uncommon for a 5* QB to have anything less than an above average arm even if he's a dual threat. Hell, Gardner wasn't a 5 star and arm strength is not his problem either.
No way he gets a 5th star if his arm isn't worthy. I'm sure having the mobility gives him wiggle room in terms of accuracy on his throws but his arm has to be able to make the throws to earn the 5th star.
To be nurtured along. That's the key. I'd go in the dual threat direction as much as possible especially if a five star is seriously interested from the QB state. He has the potential to be a kapernick or locker type. If you're not sacrificing accuracy and other QB intangibles than it's one more dynamic to your offense the D has to account for. So bring em in, nurture them along and add that dimension to the offense.
Is obviously the fan's rant about the formation, yes?
Also the fact that his team is called the honey badgers
One play, 97 yards, go-ahead TD. Bring out the beaver!
Edit: oops! Thought this was the open thread!
Dillman looks like he's more athlete than QB right now. In today's college game, that is still worth five stars. Look at how successful Braxton Miller has been, and his arm was shaky at best when he got to college.
From the tape, it's awfully hard to judge the guy's arm. And I would assume that if he had more good plays throwing the ball, they'd be on his reel.
No way I'd offer him without knowing more, considering what our offense is trying to accomplish.
I still remember watching his 1st game against UM. If he was a tenth more accurate, we would still have a losing streak against Ohio. He just missed on sooo many passes, could have easily beaten us.
He reminds me of Fran Tarkenton, but faster.
I'm only half kidding.
... because Borges is not RR 2.0. Someone with Denard's skill set at QB would not be used optimally by Borges. Someone with McCarron's would be. Johnny Football would be used well, but only because he really can make all the reads and throws too.
Regardless of how dual-threat-y someone is, a Borges QB will have to make all the reads and throws. If he can do that and run, we'll have to fight off Alabama, OSU, Notre Dame and everyone else in the country for him, so I wouldn't count on getting that guy. We might be able to pick up the guy who can make all the reads and throws and if we get him, the coaches will put him in best position to succeed. That's what we all want, right?
Are both proof that playing quarterback is about making reads and then executing throws. RG3 and Colin Kapernick are both respected because they can do these things AND run.
True... but they only make so many Tom Bradys and Peyton Mannings... there are like 5 of that guy in the whole entire world. . If u cant get a guy like that u need to find another way to move the football... the best way to run the ball is to have 2 running threats in the backfield
Is there any reason anyone wouldn't want a strong pocket passer that also poses a dual-threat? Seems to me everyone, no matter how "pro-style" or "traditional" offense you run would want that because that threat makes it harder for defenses and the playbook opens up more.
Perhaps I'm missing a glaring con*, but as of now I don't see one.
*At first I though injuries! But that has been examined and not really conclusive (here is one source)
I dont know why anyone would want anybody playing qb who is one dimensional... would u want a fast wr who cant catch? How about an RB who is large but slow? What about a smart offensive linemen who is smart and plays with good technique but gets man handled?
A couple of guys really get it on here about the mobile QB. When did DG become so crappy? Because he had two bad games? I feel comfortable about supporting him the rest of this season and hopefully in 2014 as well.