Take it if Conley visits Oregon.they pull his scholly and offer it to Jones?
this week in unintentionally grim-sounding recruiting headlines
Today's recruiting roundup covers Michael Ferns' touching gesture for a teammate, Derrick Green's latest visit plans, updates on a few key 2014 targets, and more.
Grab your Zyrtec and tissues, because pollen levels are about to get unusually high. This Facebook post, along with the above picture, made the rounds earlier this week regarding 2014 Michigan commit Michael Ferns:
"Teammates. In one of the most unselfish acts I can ever recall in high school sports, last Friday in St. Clairsville's game at Edison High School, No. 10 Michael Ferns took off on a 52 yard run and intentionally ran out of bounds at the 1 yard line. Logan Thompson, No. 17, took it from there...Thompson, who had lost his father, Paul on Wednesday of last week, was then handed the ball and ran through a giant hole to score in his father's memory. This pic was shot after Logan's TD run behind the St. C. bench. Please excuse the lack of complete clarity, but I think I might have been a little shaky... Thanks, Michael and Logan for sharing the moment and for teaching what it means to be a Teammate!~ God's Speed, Paul Thompson!~"
Sports, man; they can really bring out the best in people. Tremendous caught up with Ferns to get a few more details, and you really get an impression of just what kind of quality young man the Wolverines have committed to their 2014 class [emphasis mine]:
"It was a pretty tough week. Everything happened so unexpectedly and after we found out what happened, we knew we had to do what we could as a team to try to ease the pain; at least for a moment. We weren't really sure the opportunity was actually going to arise, but I pretty much made it my mission to get us into position to do it. Late in the game, I took a 23-iso up the middle and broke it. I immediately angled towards the sidelines and went out of bounds at the 1. Logan was on the sidelines and I don't think he knew what was going on. Coach called him to go in. I played fullback on the play and helped lead him into the endzone. After we got back onto the sidelines, I gave him a hug and told him I was proud of him. That's what I like about my team: we will do anything for each other. As a group, we'll help out anyone else on the team in any way we can".
The next time someone tells you sports contribute nothing to society, feel free to pass along that story (also, feel free to disassociate with that person entirely, because they sound like a total drag).
[Hit THE JUMP for the latest on Gareon Conley, Derrick Green, a potential backup plan at wide receiver, and a few 2014 prospects.]
Michigan appeared to dodge a bullet last weekend when commit Gareon Conley cancelled a planned visit to Cincinnati. According to 247's Justin Hopkins, however, they're not out of the woods yet ($):
Conley is on the fence about whether to take one visit to the West and visit Oregon. The Ducks are stopping by today and if an offer is made, it could happen.
"Michigan is the only place I've been to," Conley said. "Oregon is really only the main team I'm looking at other than Michigan. I'm committed to Michigan right now and that hasn't changed."
Last weekend Conley was close to visiting Cincinnati but after speaking to the staff, decided not to go.
"I was going to go but I spoke with the staff at Michigan and they said they would pull my scholarship if I did," he said. "I really want to visit Oregon but they haven't offered yet. If they do offer that will give me a lot to think about. I really want to check them out, they have been my favorite school for a long time, but it would obviously end things with Michigan."
Before I do anything else, it's worth noting this whole issue may be moot; according to Tom Beaver, Oregon did not offer Conley during their in-school visit ($). One could still come, of course, and the Ducks may be waiting for Conley to commit to a visit, but for now there isn't an offer on the table.
It's clear that Conley is having second thoughts about his decision, understandable since Michigan was his first major offer and he jumped on it before checking out all of his options. It's also obvious that he understands the repercussions of taking visits—he won't have a scholarship to Michigan anymore—and that's giving him pause; it's a very tough spot to be in for a high school recruit.
I'll reiterate what I've said time and again: while this is a situation to monitor, there's no reason to panic, tell Conley to GTFO, or have any other drastic reaction until Conley actually takes the visit (and, as a general rule, please don't tell recruits to GTFO regardless of the circumstances). With a large class of commits who mostly chose Michigan before playing a down of their senior seasons, it's inevitable that some commits will think about taking a look around; this is a huge life decision and one that we all should respect.
Sometimes it turns out like Pharaoh Brown, with a mutual parting of the ways; sometimes it turns out like David Dawson, with a chat with the coaching staff reassuring a commitment. Let the situation play out and know that Conley is only trying to ensure that he makes the correct decision for his future; the last thing anyone wants is a player halfheartedly sticking with a commitment, as that almost always ends with a transfer down the road.
VA RB Derrick Green has set up two more official visits in addition to the Michigan-MSU game on October 20th and his September official to Tennessee, according to Scout's Michael Clark ($):
“Michigan vs. Michigan State (at Michigan on October 20), Oregon vs. Stanford (at Oregon on November 17), and Auburn vs. Georgia (at Auburn on November 10) – that’s it so far,” said Derrick Green in a text message to FOX Sports Next.
Given the sub-par seasons—and difficult SEC slates ahead—for both Auburn and Tennessee, it's possible Oregon emerges as the biggest threat to Michigan's attempt to land the five-star running back. With a good visit for the State game, however, I think Michigan has a very good chance to emerge as the team to beat; insider chatter suggests they may already be in that position, in fact.
IL WR Laquon Treadwell is still the team's top target at wide receiver—and you can read a great free feature on him and his influence on his younger brother over at WolverineNation—but Michigan will have an apparent backup plan on campus this weekend. Westland (MI) John Glenn WR Da'Mario Jones is currently a soft Central Michigan commit, and he's already been on campus for the BBQ at the Big House—he's wearing #5 in this picture of the Michigan commits and Derrick Green—and the UMass game, and Tim Sullivan reports that he'll be in Ann Arbor once again to take in the Illinois game ($).
Jones is 6'2", 185 pounds, and has the speed to be a dangerous threat out of the slot. Tim mentions that he plays in a very run-heavy attack at John Glenn, which could be a reason why he hasn't picked up an offer yet; he's clearly on the radar, however, and if Michigan came through with a scholarship I'd be surprised if he didn't accept. He's already got the Denard celebratory kneel down pat.
Tremendous has your comprehensive list of Illinois visitors, including a long list of 2013 commits, Ferns, 2014 IL OL Jamarco Jones, and 2014 DE/LB Gelen Robinson, younger brother of Michigan basketball freshman Glenn Robinson III.
According to 247's Clint Brewster($), Michigan is currently "the one school standing out right now" for 2014 MI OL offeree Tommy Doles. Doles will be at the Illinois game this weekend.
2014 OH OL Nathaniel Devers, high school teammate of Gareon Conley, has Michigan in his top three with Alabama and Northwestern, per ESPN's Brad Bournival ($). Devers may be on campus this weekend, as well.
2014 PA S Montae Nicholson is taking his recruitment slow, but will be on campus for the Michigan State game, according to an interview with Sam Webb ($).
Tim Sullivan gives a rundown of Cass Tech's multitude of underclassman prospects over at the Freep.
The NCAA has banned "Instagram recruiting"—the practice of staging or altering a photo and sending it to a prospect for recruiting purposes—per Lost Lettermen. This was apparently a thing. I... I quit.
Take it if Conley visits Oregon.they pull his scholly and offer it to Jones?
I'm sure Jones is more of a back-up plan to Treadwell than Conley. I doubt the staff wants 4 WRs in this class.
So the whole thing with the no other visits policy, I get why they have that ... you commit to us, and we commit to you with our recruiting strategy that follows. If you're going to flirt with other schools, your spot could get taken.
But if a kid commits to Michigan, decides he wants to take another visit and does that, but the visit only proves to him that he was right in his initial decision and he wants to stay committed ... well, does that mean he is still committed or not?
Because I think that exact scenario has played out a number of times. Greg Mathews is the only one I can think of off the top of my head, but think it's happened.
I understand the kid is in a tough spot, but I sure hope he stays. He is having a great senior year and it looks like he could help us at WR or CB.
Does the coaching staff pull the offer completely, or do they just consider him uncommitted? I mean, what if he visits Oregon, doesn't like and it wants to recommit? Is the offer still there?
I'm assuming this has been discussed before, but the old Conley/Dawson threads are lengthy and would rather not scour through them to find the answer.
I've heard both. The only example we have is what happened to Brown. After his visit to Oregon he decommitted and committed to Oregon. I don't think anyone other than the coaches and Brown really know which took place.
Didnt Brown still believe he was committed. I remember some tweets were sent out that after his visit, he sent out that he thought he was still committed to Michigan. Then, he was not.
I think Brown wanted to be committed, but that ended with his trip. He was fairly quiet with the trip, which I think didnt sit that well with the Michigan coaches.
I believe in previous responses given by Hoke he said; “If a commit takes a visit to another school, then we at UM do not consider him to be committed any longer.”
He did not address if the scholarship is pulled or whether the player couldn’t then talk to the staff and re-commit later.
Having a full scholarship at the University of Michigan is a tough spot... REALLY?
Having the oppurtunity to play and develop under Greg Mattison is a tough spot... REALLY?
Where is Seth Meyers when you need him?
Yea, it is a tough spot. It's easy for us, being Michigan fans, to say the hell with anyone who isn't 100%. But he is not from Michigan, obviously hasn't been a die hard fan his entire life, and Oregon is consistently a top 10 team with some pretty cool uniforms.
And mad Dollaz.
Believe it or not, but other schools have plenty to offer as well. Granted, he put himself in this position considering that he committed so quickly, but you can't blame him for being curious to see what other schools have to offer.
Seth Meyers is in New York City being fairly funny on SNL.
You are on MGoBlog. And not being funny at all.
I've heard from high school and family sources that Conley did get an "off the record" Oregon offer, whatever that means. I think basically if he visits, he has the "official" offer. Take it for what it's worth (nothing really).
"Given the sub-par seasons—and difficult SEC slates ahead—for both Auburn and Tennessee, it's possible Oregon emerges as the biggest threat to Michigan's attempt to land the five-star running back."
As a Mississippi State season ticket holder, I am amazed at how weak, outside of Alabama, the SEC seems this year. LSU and Georgia have glaring weaknessed. I suspect that Florida and South Carolina will soon be revealed as mortal teams. Mississippi State stuggled to beat Troy, but dominated Auburn. Auburn's loss to JLS and Co. is a further indictment of their team.
Tennessee comes here Saturday. I am hoping they get crushed and that this helps UM's chances with Green. Wish me luck as it is an 8PM kickoff and my 4 year old (8:30PM bedtime) and father-in-law (7PM bedtime) will be in attendance with me.
I'm surprised they would pull Conley's offer. I'd have thought they'd just no longer consider him a commit
I used to think that, but it seems they part ways with a kid if he commits and then wants to look around.
the Michigan coaches rules?
Is the player just considered uncommitted (with the risk of his scholarship going to another recruit?) or is it a "so long, your scholarship is toast" attitude?
I have zero problem with the former, it seems fair for all parties involed and an adult response.
The visit & your 'ship is yanked aproach seems petulant at best , and would be disappointing from such high-charater coaches.
Would like to know exact details.
I don't think it's petulant at all. It serves a purpose. They tell these kids upfront not to commit unless they are sure. Then if they commit they turn other kids away at their position if they are full such as Anzalone at LB and Cameron Walker at CB. So the coaches are committing to the kids just like the kids are committing to the coaches.
I just love Dymonte in the picture. He has a great pose and was our 2nd commit in the class. And who doesnt like plaid shorts.
Can you (or someone else) ID those in pic? I recognize a few, but not most.
Also interesting that none of the big boys put on a jersey for the photo.
I thought "mob loggers" was yet another thing the kids are into, like fluorescent, day-glo green basketball shoes. I already felt out of touch enough for one day.
mgobloggers. Mine didn't autocorrect to Mob loggers. LIAR!!!!
lemme offer a truckload of trees you can't refuse, as today is the day my daughter is to be married, and I gotta cook the books because I'm skimmin off the top, HEY MA! gettoutta here I'm doin bizniss!
Actually, I thought it where a group suddenly appear at a forest site and at a set time begin to cut, clear and transport all the trees; then just as quickly vanish. /s
Sure, my pic is the same pick posted by Ace. I can ID most of the guys. We will start from left to right. If I am wrong, I hope someone corrects me.
The guy on the far left, or Dymonte's right is Kalid Hill. Then Dymonte, not sure who the guy is on Dymonte's right, then Derrick Green, Jourdan lewis, not sure who is behind Da'MArio Jones, Da'Mario Jones, Jaron Dukes, Kyle bosch, Ben Gedeon, Logan Tully-Tillman, and Chris Fox on the far right. That is the top row.
Second row, starting from the left. David DAwson, Mike Mccray, Wyatt Shallman, Deveon Smith, Scott S., and Jake Butt.
Sitting int he front is Taco.
IIRC, Ross Douglas and the LS Scott Sypenewski (sp??) were in the picture as well.
DAwson has a jersey on 55.
Here's my effort to identify them all (with an enlarged picture):
Thanks, Magnus. Was Conley there, I tought he didnt make it up. I could be wrong.
#5 is not Conley, it is Da'Mario Jones.
But I could be wrong
Glen: Yea dad what's up?
Sr.: No I said Gelen.
Glen: Yea it's me Glen. What's up?
Sr.: NAW GELL-EN.
Glen: Oh. Ok.
Glen: What do you want?
Probably explains the whole "Tre" nickname.
has always been that his name is pronounced like Galen
An interesting tidbit about the Conley situation, is that I am pretty sure that right before his pledge to Michigan, someone questioned him whether or not he would stay committed if he commits this early, and his response was something long the lines of "what does the word "commitment" mean to you?" well Gareon, right back at you...
Anyone else think it is funny that Ferns' team has a Devil logo on their uniforms.
(I would say it is ironic given the circumstance, but that would open me up to the MgoGrammar police.)
I like Gelen Robinson as a player a lot. If he adds an inch or two of height he should be a sure-fire offer.