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It's time for another Thursday Recruitin' post, and this week includes more rankings, a lot of visit news, and a very interesting tidbit off the 24/7 message boards. Please let me know if you have any comments, criticism, suggestions, etc. — as always, I'll be reading the comments, and you can also reach me on Twitter or via email, where I'll also encourage you to send any recruiting articles of interest that you think I should include for the next week's edition.

Justin Hopkins Goes to the TomVH School of Cryptic Messages

247Sports recruiting analyst Justin Hopkins posted this on Tuesday in the Michigan-Notre Dame thread on The Blue Board, 24/7's U-M message board:

A little birdy tells me to keep an eye on Bri'onte Dunn. Since the changes at Ohio State his commitment has loosened to a degree, according to this source. I'm not saying anything concrete except keep an eye.

Isn't that what we've been doing? Anyways, this is nothing but good news, and it could get a lot better in a hurry if Dunn comes in for an unofficial visit for the Notre Dame game. Right now he's up in the air about making it in to Ann Arbor this weekend.

Meanwhile, Sam Webb gets a little cryptic himself with a post headlined, "A Change of Heart for Richardson?" ($) For those without a Scout membership, this likely caused a moment of panic, but when asked if he would take visits to other schools Terry Richardson gave a strong "No sir," so you can breathe easy once again.

Less Esoteric 2012 Recruiting News

Flint Powers DT Danny O'Brien has cut his list down to four teams ($, info in header). After taking in the first half of the Western Michigan game, O'Brien announced that he will choose between Michigan, Michigan State, Alabama, and Tennessee. He'll be back in Ann Arbor this weekend for an unofficial visit.

Arkansas landed Chicago Simeon quarterback Robert Gregory last week. Michigan had no interest in Gregory, but they certainly have some in his teammate, offensive lineman Jordan Diamond. According to Steve Wiltfong, Gregory's commitment could make things interesting between Diamond and the Hogs [emphasis mine]:

In addition to Gregory, Arkansas is also recruiting Simeon four-star offensive lineman Jordan Diamond (6-6, 290). Diamond is rated the No. 60 player in the nation by 247. Wiltfong said Diamond is a blue chip both on and off the field.

“As a player, he has got everything you're looking for in an offensive lineman,” Wiltfong said. “He can play offensive tackle or offensive guard. He has got long arms, a great base and he loves to play football.”

...

Diamond and his mother as well as another teammate were with Gregory when he visited Arkansas. Wiltfong said Arkansas getting Gregory could prove to be big with Diamond.

“Getting Robert Gregory is the first domino to help them get Jordan,” Wiltfong said.

Let's hope a strong Brady Hoke point in the direction of said dominoes cause them to fall in the direction of Ann Arbor.

Ondre Pipkins is once again the recipient of a nice fluffy article, this time courtesy of the Kansas City Star, which realizes that it's probably a good idea for recruits to go to camps and stuff if they want to get noticed. O RLY owl goes here. Here's some of the article that actually talks about Pipkins:

After his May 2010 combine, Pipkins attended a Missouri team camp and ran a 5-second 40-yard dash in the lane where coach Gary Pinkel was watching.

The buzz began.

“He wowed them with his size and speed, and they were interested in him right away,” said Reynolds, who recalled responding to the Mizzou recruiter: “Well, let me look at him in a stance before you get too crazy here.”

Pipkins seems to be pretty good in a stance as well (boy, does that sound weird), and after another big-time camp performance at the Army All-American Combine he landed his Michigan offer.

Jerry Beeson of The Duane Long Report has a rundown of several Ohio prospects he's seen so far this season, and Michgian safety commit Jarrod Wilson is among them:

The guy who did play safety for Buchtel was the 6-2 190-pound Jarrod Wilson. Wilson is a centerfield type. He came up with a pick on a ball intended for Murray down the left sideline, but one that was poorly thrown. He’s definitely a great athlete out there and can cover some ground. Steubenville is a team that likes to run the football most of the time, and I did not see Jarrod Wilson involved in this part of the game very much. I like a safety that can hit and make plays in the run game and 24 certainly left something to be desired in that regard. To be fair, this was not a game that was set up to Wilson’s strengths and every recruit has weaknesses. You can still tell you were looking at a Big Ten athlete. I guess it wasn’t the best week to evaluate Wilson.

So, the guy who is a "centerfield type" playing deep safety didn't come up and make a ton of plays at the line. Yeah, Jerry, you probably picked the wrong game to make a blanket evaluation of Jarrod Wilson. I'm more encouraged that he made an interception, poor throw or not, and looked the part of a Big Ten safety. In case you haven't noticed, the Wolverines could use a few more of those.

Speaking of Duane Long's site, Long himself finished his countdown of the top 50 prospects in Ohio. Hit the link for the whole list, which is topped by uncommitted DE Ifeadi Odenigbo, but here are his evaluations of #10 Chris Wormley...

Before anyone calls me a homer, look at the national rankings on Wormley. When you look at their rankings, I believe most would question how I could have him top ten. First, that is not my style. To be a homer, I mean. I will always call them like I see them. Look at the rest of the Duane Long Report top 50. There are some Buckeye verbals who are alot lower than any homer would rank them. Locals saw Wormley up close at camp. He is such a physical specimen. My argument is this is a class full of physical specimens, and they have better films than Wormley. I have seen him be brilliant. He may have the best upside on the class. My problem is I have not seen him get better. I have seen some film of him as early as his freshman year. He is still the same football player. I do not see another good player in Wormley. I see a player with the potential to be an early entry NFL player or one that we never hear from again. He has to find the every down fire.

...and #5 Kyle Kalis:

Kyle Kalis is one the best line prospects it has been my privilege to evaluate in all my years of scouting players in Ohio. It is very simple. Kyle Kalis dominates whoever is in front of him. Kalis is a third and two player. What I mean by that is on third and two you run behind Kalis and he will get you three. He is playing for a high profile program so we see him alot, and he plays against better competition than most players. I am still waiting to see anyone hold their own, let alone get the best of Kalis. The only question that remains is whether he has the feet to play left tackle at the next level.

I haven't had the opportunity to see Kalis yet, but I have seen Wormley in person, and I must at least partially agree with Long's assessment—while Wormley looked like a beast for most of the game I saw, there were a few plays where he just didn't bring it. While I don't think his motor is as poor as some—including Long—make it out to be, he could use some work in that regard.

More confirmation that this class is particularly awesome comes from the Sporting News, which lists Michigan as having the best 2012 class thus far:

“Our class can contribute greatly to Michigan as a whole,” Sporting News Top 125 DE Tom Strobel told Sporting News. “With the type of players being recruited, what’s not to like? We can make a big impact in turning this program around. And I love knowing that we have the potential to make history and put Michigan back on the top where it belongs.”

It would be nice if that turnaround begins before these guys hit campus, but I like the attitude nonetheless.

[BONUS FROM YOUR EDITOR! It appears IA WR Amara Darboh has a television or the internet and has observed Brian Kelly's purple-faced explosion. This, as you might imagine, does not seem appealing to a wide receiver, or his legal guardian:

“I know how emotional it gets out there,” [Dan Schafer, the guardian] said. “I understand that’s part of the game. I really do. But it did shock me. You hold Notre Dame up a little higher than that. It made me wonder how I would feel if Amara was treated like that on national TV.”

You would feel not very good, sir. Block M for real.]

Etc.

WolverineNation (aka ESPN Ann Arbor) has launched, and here's a TomVH article ($, unfortunately) on Brady Hoke and his impressive recruiting since taking the Michigan job.

As you can imagine, based on his earlier quote in this post, Tom Strobel is "rock-solid" in his commitment to the Wolverines ($, info in header).

Fenton (MI) punter Kenny Allen visited for the WMU game ($, info in header). Allen already holds a scholarship offer from Oregon State, so I doubt Michigan will be able to take him on as a walk-on—I'm guessing he's a contingency plan if Will Hagerup gets strike three before signing day.

Oaks Christian (CA) WR Jordan Payton will be one of the several recruits visiting for the Notre Dame game ($, info in header). Payton has visits set for Michigan (duh), Penn State, and Oklahoma, and it appears it'll be a battle between Arizona State, Cal, and Texas A&M for his final two official visits.

One much-discussed recruit who will not be in attendance this weekend is Puyallup (WA) OL Josh Garnett, who will be taking an unofficial visit to Washington this weekend ($, info in header). He's waiting to take official visits until after the conclusion of his senior season.

Southfield tight end Ron Thompson will be making a fall decision ($, info in header), and Michigan will not be his destination.

2013 Recruiting

Want to see TomVH put Shane Morris through a workout that includes throwing a 35-yard pass behind his back and launching an 80-yard bomb? Here's the video, as well as the Chantel Jennings profile on Morris to go with it ($).

Sam Webb profiles Joliet (IL) Catholic running back Ty Isaac, who is off to a very strong start this season after playing most of his sophomore year with a partially torn PCL. Here's Isaac on Isaac:

"Obviously being as big as I am -- and this is me being a little biased -- I think at my size it kind of surprises people on how quick I can do things," Isaac said. "Most people wouldn't be expecting me to be able to make the moves I've made.

"I can be whatever type of runner you need me to be. Whatever it takes to get another yard, a first down, a touchdown -- you're obviously going to see that. I know that I can block and I can catch passes. I can do whatever you need me to do."

Webb's article mentions scholarship offers from Toledo, Arizona, Purdue, Northwestern, Illinois and Notre Dame, and according to Scout he just picked up another from Iowa ($, info in header). Isaac maintains that he doesn't "have a top anything," nor a strict timeline in his recruitment, so things are still wide open here.

Kyle Warber of MLive has a profile of Crete-Monee wide receiver Laquon Treadwell, junior teammate of Anthony Standifer, which includes this analysis from his head coach, Jerry Verde...

"He’s an excellent wide receiver,” Verde said about Treadwell in an interview with 24/7 Sports. “Great hands and what he does after he catches the ball, he can outrun you or he can run you over. In these playoff games, there were times where he caught the ball and ran over everybody on the other side to score a touchdown. Then we put him about week seven at defensive end because were struggling at that position and needed another big body in there, and he ended up getting five quarterback sacks and three forced fumbles where he just takes the ball out of the other guy’s hands. That’s something you can’t teach. He just has that size and tenacity.”

...as well as this encouraging quote [emphasis mine]:

Recruits will commit to programs for a variety of reasons, but Michigan has made a strong impression on the receiver and having his former teammate to look up to in college like he did in high school gives the Wolverines an edge.

"If Michigan offered me that would mean the world to me," Treadwell said. "And yes, I think playing with Anthony influence my final decision.

Treadwell will be on campus this weekend for the Notre Dame game ($, info in header), and we'll see if an offer is forthcoming. I'd expect Michigan to extend one sooner or later.

Midland offensive lineman Steve Elmer is kind of a big deal, garnering attention from national powers across the country ($). Elmer, like half the other recruits on the planet, will be in Michigan Stadium on Saturday.

Both Canton OL Cameron Dillard and Grand Blanc LB Luke Maclean (both $, info in header) took unofficial visits to Michigan last weekend. Both players have early MAC offers and should end up with scholarships from BCS schools.

A word of fair warning: There's a '13 linebacker recruit from Cleveland Glenville named Christopher Worley. Michigan is interested. No, this won't be confusing whatsoever.

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September 8th, 2011 at 10:24 AM | I am not qualified, but I (Score:2)
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I am not qualified, but I don't think Long is out of bounds on Wormley - virtually every single outlet has some version of what Long wrote.

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September 8th, 2011 at 11:22 AM | Yeah, Wormley seems a little (Score:2)
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Yeah, Wormley seems a little too level-headed for his own good.  He doesn't seem to get excited about making good plays, and he doesn't make enough of them. 

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September 8th, 2011 at 10:34 AM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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Hey ace. I know there was a thread earlier this week about who may or may not be visiting but by chance can you set up a diary that had a list of player who are attending. It's just an idea. I hate to compare to Tom but it was really helpful during the BBQ. Thanks and great work man

 

 

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September 8th, 2011 at 10:54 AM | Philbert, I would like to do (Score:4 Normal)
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Philbert, I would like to do this, and certainly will as my dossier of recruiting contacts fills up, but to be honest right now that list would either mostly just be ripped straight from premium sites or just be incomplete. I can work on tracking down free articles (or at least premium ones that have info in the header) and start a thread, but I just don't want to do a whole diary of stealing others' info.

Trust me, I'm working on building my contacts as much as I can, and hopefully I won't have to lean on the premium sites so much in the near future. Bear with me as I work on this.

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September 8th, 2011 at 11:07 AM | Of the uncommitted guys, I (Score:2)
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Of the uncommitted guys, I feel comfortable enough passing along this information on 2012 prospects, which has appeared in several places: Jordan Payton and Zach Banner are the only official visits, and Darius Powe had to cancel/reschedule.

While that may seem like a disappointingly low level of officials, keep in mind that with the night game, recruits will have very little face time with the coaches after the game and won't have the chance to spend much time with the players. Most of the recruits on campus this weekend -- even the 2012 guys -- will be on unofficial visits because of this.

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September 8th, 2011 at 12:21 PM | Hey Ace, does this list seem (Score:2 Normal)
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Hey Ace, does this list seem close to reality? ScoutExile posted it on the 247Sports forum under the ND night game thread. And if it is, do we know which are official/unofficial?

Expected 2012 Prospects:
Erik Magnuson
Caleb Stacey
Chris Wormley
A.J. Williams
Matt Godin
Anthony Standifer
Royce Jenkins-Stone
Pharoah Brown
Mario Ojemudia
Greg Garmon
Danny O'Brien
Jordan Payton
Zach Banner
Efe Scott-Emuakpor

As of now, not visisting:
Tom Strobel
Kyle Kalis
Yuri Wright
Amara Darboh
Aziz Shittu
Josh Garnett
Darius Powe

Expected 2013 Prospects:
Shane Morris
Steve Elmer
Kyle Bosch
Wyatt Shallman
Jon Reschke
Shaq Wiggins
Dymonte Thomas
Matt Miller
Cameron Dillard
Laquon Treadwell
Kenton Gibbs
Poet Thomas
Brogan Roback
Cameron Burrows
Taco Charlton

State College bound? *
Ben Gedeon
Bri'onte Dunn

 

* referring to them visiting for PSU v Alabama


http://247sports.com/Board/30/Michigan-Thread-Notre-Dame-Week-8-PM-Saturday-2685013/785

Quick! To the Hindenpeter!

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September 8th, 2011 at 12:44 PM | That looks right to me. Big (Score:2)
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That looks right to me. Big day for the 2013 group.

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September 8th, 2011 at 3:55 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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Brogan Roback is a must-get. Then, in the future, we can Roback-it instead of Raback(ing)-it.

Denard has spent the offseason working really hard and smiling at people.

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September 8th, 2011 at 11:15 AM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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No big deal. Your doing a great job. Keep it up

 

 

Touchdown Manningham!  MICHIGAN WINS! 

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September 8th, 2011 at 10:38 AM | Dunn.. (Score:1)
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Confirmed for Saturday?  I keep hearing that he is going to PSU-Alabama instead.  

As for Wormley...look, there are a lot of players like that in high school.  He is so superior athletically, he can afford to take plays off.  Players making the college jump either get it, or don't.  I am not worried about him, with the right coaching.  

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September 8th, 2011 at 10:49 AM | Damn, I need to change that. (Score:2)
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Damn, I need to change that. Was looking at an older Scout thread that had Dunn confirmed, but I think he's still up in the air. Should find out soon, obviously.

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September 8th, 2011 at 10:43 AM | Good job, Ace. You have made (Score:2)
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Good job, Ace. You have made a seamless transition.

I've decided to lay off the food for a while, and go on the booze.

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September 8th, 2011 at 10:43 AM | That TomVH video with Shane (Score:1)
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That TomVH video with Shane Morris is worth a look. Kid looks awesome. 

What if the breath that kindl'd those grim fires Awak'd should blow them into sevenfold rage And plunge us in the Flames? or from above Should intermitted vengeance Arme again His red right hand to plague us?

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September 8th, 2011 at 11:02 AM | Too late... (Score:3 Underrated)
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"A word of fair warning: There's a '13 linebacker recruit from Cleveland Glenville named Christopher Worley. Michigan is interested. No, this won't be confusing whatsoever."

Too late, I already had to read that paragraph three times, before I noticed the "M" missing.  Hope that is not an ominous sign in his recruitment.

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September 8th, 2011 at 11:10 AM | UM Football Influence (Score:2)
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I've watched too much UM football.  I briefly noticed I had 313 points, which immediately reminded me of Tim Biakabutuka's yardage against OSU in '95.  Many other numbers do the same thing, especially jersey numbers.  Anybody else messed up like this? 

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September 8th, 2011 at 11:08 AM | Kalis (Score:1)
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That is a glowing endorsement of Kalis.

Come on Mr. Dunn, you want to run behind this line in the winged helmet.

 

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September 8th, 2011 at 12:34 PM | Ben Gedeon... (Score:1)
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Allan Trieu is saying Gedeon is coming to  Ann Arbor this weekend, not Happy Valley.  FWIW.

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September 8th, 2011 at 1:38 PM | Kenny Allen's (Score:1)
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 Oregon St offer may have been pulled due to him not wanting to commit early-ish, per a premium site... am I allowed to post that? Thanks.

JB Class of '06

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September 8th, 2011 at 3:04 PM | Did we end up having any (Score:1)
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Did we end up having any recruits come to the Western game?

I thought one of the WR's that we were interested in was planning on coming. Anyone know if that happened?

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September 8th, 2011 at 5:25 PM | Darboh was planning to but (Score:2)
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Darboh was planning to but postponed it. Danny O'Brien was in on an unofficial visit.

Biggest visit though (literally) was McGary for MBB.

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September 8th, 2011 at 3:11 PM | Chris Worley (Score:2)
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I see no reason for confusion.

Bo' Money Bo' Problems

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September 8th, 2011 at 3:59 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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I'm not super worried about Garnett because I know he and Banner are friends, so hopefully if Banner is blown away he will be able to talk is up to Garnett. I expect us to get a post-season official regardless, but the positive review should help.



I'm hopeful that Dymonte will be able to talk Bri'onte into coming to UM for the ND game. That's been a big visit in my mind for awhile now. Did he ever take that PSU visit he was planning to take? If he did, and he's going back this weekend, that's a little worrisome.

Denard has spent the offseason working really hard and smiling at people.

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