The Steve Elmer story proves that ND could still be a huge powerhouse with the right coach. There's no other program that could be as mediocre as ND has been for that long who could get that kind of love from an out of state blue chip prospect.
Thursday Recruitin' Is An Expert On Questionable Phrasing
In this week's Thursday Recruitin', Danny O'Brien moves up his decision date, rumblings continue about the status of Bri'onte Dunn's OSU commitment, A.J. Williams is the subject of both an unfortunate headline and an awesome YouTube video, new 2013 offers go out, and much more. Please let me know if you have any comments, criticism, suggestions, etc.—as always, I'll be reading the comments, and you can also reach me on Twitter or via email, where I'll also encourage you to send any recruiting articles of interest that you think I should include for the next week's edition.
O'Brien Announcement Change and More on Uncommitted (to U-M, at least) Prospects
According to several sources, including Rivals's Josh Helmholdt, who was kind enough to actually deliver the news outside of a paywall, Flint Powers DT Danny O'Brien has moved up his decision date to October 6th. I should be in attendance for this one unless the Powers athletic director confuses me with that other guy who uses the name Ace, in which case he'd be well within his right to kick me to the curb on sight. Luckily, I actually have credentials and stuff.
24/7's Steve Wiltfong calls Canton Glen Oak running back Bri'onte Dunn "college ready" ($, info in header), and quotes his high school coach saying Fred Jackson compared Dunn to Tyrone Wheatley, which means he obviously left out the part where Jackson added, "except with laser vision, the speed of a Lamborghini, and the raw power of the fictitious love-child of Earl Campbell and Mike Alstott." While the article is paywalled, Wiltfong added a pair of responses on The Blue Board after a poster said Dunn was "all OSU as long as they don't get hammered by the NCAA" [emphasis mine]:
Agreed - especially since recruiting has not been the issue there under Weis or Kelly. While we all joke about their lengthy "return to glory," I have a hard time seeing them not having a good deal of success with all the talent they're able to bring in. At this point, it's just a matter of finding the right coach, and I'm certainly not ready to say that coach isn't Kelly.
disclaimer: I don't have any idea what I'm talking about and am generally, an idiot...
...Having said that, it is my opinion that Dunn fears the same hillbilly wrath that came down on Kyle Kalis when he switched from the Bucks to the Wolverines. Thus, it may be his plan to prolong his verbal pledge to the Bucks for as long as he possibly can before switching to UM just in time to sign an LOI. This will leave him with the minimum amount of time to deal with half-wits in leather hats who will criticize him for making the most important decision of HIS life that contrasts with their wishes.
Those are my thoughts.
now someone needs to recall this comment in 5 months(?).
Those were my thoughts too. I'm a "where there's smoke there's fire" kind of guy, and right now there's enough smoke around Dunn to make me think that Michigan has a chance regardless of the penalty that OSU gets from Tresselgate.
Michigan definitely has a chance, especially with Dunn's cousin Dymonte Thomas on board - they've talked about playing together in college, and that's something they'd like to do. Of course, those "package deals" often don't work out, but in this case Thomas is solidly on board with Michigan while Dunn has serious interest. I'm not saying it will happen, but that's a factor that plays in M's favor.
but this isn't a normal package deal between friends. This is a close family that has grown up playing ball together and wanting to do it at the college level. I like reading all of the posts back and forth on Dunn. They remind me of the Abraham Lincoln quote about the chicken being the wisest of all the animals because she only cackles after she has laid an egg. I'd be nervous if I were a buckeye. Something says Jim Lahey is dead nuts on.
Dunn is planning on being an early enrollee. He could easily leave Ohio and enroll at Michigan without having to put up with all the BS that Kalis and Dymonte are dealing with. It still amazes me they would give the business to Dymonte when Ohio hadn't even offerred him.
That would probably be a really smart choice for him, if he were to commit to Michigan.
Excellent point. He could announce on the day he starts classes at Michigan.
Eh, not really. He'd have paperwork to fill our for a month beforehand, and if he didn't have that done at OSU someone would know about it. He could keep it a secret until around the beginning of December, but the coaches would know if they asked for his EE forms and he didn't fill them out, or told them he wasn't filling them out. And it would then be only a matter of time before the internets knew.
That said, I still agree with the sentiment that if he were to switch, it would be a good idea for him to keep that a secret for as long as possible. But I think people would figure it out well before he was on campus.
I'll throw my cards in as well. I'm looking for Bri'Onte to show up for the UM-OSU game, and make the commitment then.
There you have it, I call November 26 as the day.
BK-Raback-Finest it !
BTW - Big thanks to Ace for linking the AJ Williams article. I haven't heard any news about him in ages, but I find him to be one of our more intriguing prospects. Recruiting services don't care for guys that don't fit perfecttly into a specific position. I think that AJ hasn't gotten the hype because they see him as a "tweener". Once he gets on the field and kicks some butt, they'll change that term to "mismatch".
Does his recruitment mean anything to Pipkins recruitment, and of the remaining targets for 2012, who is the most important for us to get in your opinion, Dunn, O'Brien someone else?
I don't think O'Brien's recruitment has any meaning for Pipkins' commitment. Pipkins was getting a block M tattooed on his back a couple of days ago,
From the MGoBlog and AceAnbender retweets:
So I think that his commitment is pretty solid. He probably would like playing with O'Brien so they could dominate interior linemen together.
guys don't rule out the fact that he chose the school for academic reasons. he's a smart kid and is very driven academically. word is the edge wasn't as much football but in their opinion the weight of an undergrad degree in their perception being a bit more than an undergrad degree from Michigan.
Thinking out loud - if/when ND joins a conference - do they lose some of the luster of what they offer? A big part of their pitch is the fact that they play and travel everywhere (like Navy in Ireland next year). That all goes away with the ACC as an example.
You don't end up rooting for ND in front of 114K fans because they have a slightly better undergrad degree. He grew up watching his Dad root for ND, that's probably what made the difference.
I would have assumed growing up in Midland (he did grow up there, right?) and surrounded by blue and yellow Block Ms everywhere that something would've have tipped him towards us.
Midland did that to me when I moved there in elementary school: I thought to myself 'there are a lot of Michigan fans here!' Then I realized they were for Midland High, and I got a bit sad (Dow grad)
but I do know this to be a fact. football was believed to be good at several schools that were after him. the "total package" tilted to ND for them. dad liked ND and others I am told. Mom liked MSU initially. I think they would have been good with any team he picked.
if he commits. IMO, with RB being such a shaky position for us, getting Dunn here has to be a huge goal of the coaches. And Dunn would almost certainly see immediate playing time. But I agree with JimLahey - Brionte is probably playing his status close to the vest to keep the cretins off his butt at least during his season.
Regarding Elmer, it always amazes me how ND can keep attracting so many top players despite a) mediocre or bad play on the field b) a bug-eyed, purple-faced coach on the sideline who looks like his head's about to explode, or c) their revolving door of coaches. Anyway, good luck Steve.
My dream finish for Michigan's recruiting class would be: Dunn, O'Brien, Banner/Garnett, Wright, Darboh, and Payton. Hopefully we can squeeze 6 more guys in.
I agree. I find it mind-boggling that they still manage to recruit so well.
and you're taken with who you want to win, then there's his answer. This has nothing to do with whether Michigan or nd has this or that coach, or the future winning opportunities ... it simply is what it is.
RE: Dunn - if Boise gets 9 football scholarships taken for what the NCAA said was LOC issues, then tsio is in for a scholarship beatdown. We'll see ... but the NCAA will speak before signing day. Incidently - the B1G office has also been entirely too quite about tressel's use of ineligible players last year ... c'mon Delaney trying to find some "balls"?
Well in regards to Boise State, their football program had a very minor part in the problems. It was mainly their women's tennis team that committed multiple major violations, while 4 other sports (football included) committed minor violations. That caused the LOIC tag and as a result football suffers more than it probably would.
the tennis team somehow gets tied to the football program because they gave football recruits candy bars and let them sleep on the floor in the dorms (must be cheaper than the $15 South Carolina spends ...).
So tennis team + candy bars = 9 lost scholarships. How does this compare to a head coach that lies DIRECTLY to the NCAA about ineligble players just so his team can make millions of dollars in a BCS game?
He's probably right. Garmon didn't say he'll be the head coach for years. Fickell seems like one of those guys that will hang around the program in any capacity rather than try to venture out on his own without the support of "Buckeye Nation".
Good for him.
In 1998, I was considering 4 undergrad schools, and took my college visits, including one to Notre Dame for the ND-UM game that UM got the doors blown off them. I was miserable during the entire game and drive home, and realized I couldn't fathom being in South Bend without being able to enjoy a major part of that ND undergrad experience (rooting for their football team). Most mature reason to nix a school? Maybe not, but sometimes, you like who you like.
We can all acknowledge a good HS student isn't exactly hurting himself by heading to ND. Good luck to Elmer.
With how shaky and thin our defensive line has been thus far this year, I really hope that O'brien goes blue. With as good Pipkins and a few of the other DE commits are, I'd love to see another big time player in the interior.
If you enjoy comedy, Duane's newest post thinks OSU should win 9 and it's reasonable to expect 10 or 11 wins.
I want what Duane Long is smoking. Jeebus.
If Dymonte Thomas finds his way to the 6'3" range.....HELLO: Taylor Mays
That's how it should be. Unless in 2 years we find out he was betting on ND.. jp He looked like a good kid. What about Kyle Bosch? Do we have anything on him? His film looked really impressive for a sophomore and he looked like a "Finisher" consistently driving his man into the ground.