Three And Out Takes: Ensemble Comment Count

Brian

imageYesterday we covered the main characters in Three and Out; today some of the people who show up less frequently (or do not loom with their absence).

For people complaining about spoilers, I have bad news: they fire the guy. But we won World War II, so we've got that going for us. Unless this is an alternate history and we're all Nazis, but only Michigan State fans believe that because Michigan State fans will believe anyone is a racist if it helps exonerate Will Gholston. Denard: totally racist.

Anyway, I show up briefly. A few reporters show up more extensively, and then there are the players—addressed as a group—and the new athletic director.

This guy's opinion: boy, does that hippie with the blog need a haircut. But his logic… so dashing.

Person Who Identifies Himself As Brian

(And you guys.)

So… right. There are some scattered MGoBlog references, mostly as a reading of the fan zeitgeist. "Never Forget" is referenced because "Never Forget" is always referenced all the time; The Horror is identified as The Horror, and so forth and so on. The blog's permanence relative to most message boards (and even newspapers, which put their stories behind a paywall after a while) seems to have made it the database of record when it comes to how the average fan felt at X point in time, even if the average fan here is not the average fan elsewhere. It's around. Since that's more than anything else can say, its opinion wins by default.

A couple people have asked for more detail about the point in the book where I show up in the flesh. This is after the WMU 2009 press conference, which was the first one post-Free Press story. I've had a couple days to consider the story and have come to the conclusion that it's a misleading, unethical hack job. I am steaming. I go to the press conference to liveblog it.

Afterwards—and in retrospect I can't believe this actually transpired—I go to the front of the room, where Snyder is, and repeatedly ask him if he knows what a countable hour is in an unfriendly fashion. He refuses to answer. The pattern is: I ask, he says he won't respond because I am a "competitor," I ask, he says the same thing, I incredulously ask if he will not defend his article, etc. etc. etc. This is actually broadcast (off-camera but audible) on the MGoBlue stream, which was not turned off after the presser.

I give up on Snyder and am in the process of storming out when I happen on Rosenberg in the little vestibule between the Junge proper and outside. I ask the same thing; Rosenberg responds that he does know what a countable hour is, so I start in on why that wasn't in the article and how realistic it is that a head coach at a major program had been more than doubling the NCAA's allotted maximums for years. He starts asking me my name over and over again, which I ignore in favor of further badgering. Craig Ross, watching this with a combination of bemusement and horror, eventually tells Rosenberg my name. I think this was because he wanted Rosenberg to start saying other things, but you'd have to ask him and he doesn't remember interjecting. So that's lost to history.

I had no idea this was going to be in the book until just before the thing went to print when Bacon emailed me with Rosenberg's version of the event and asked me if I had any corrections, which I did since he remembered me as some wild-eyed nut instead of a wild-eyed nut with very specific questions.

And <poof> like that, he's gone.

Mike Rosenberg

As for my bête noir… well now. Revelations about Rosenberg from the book:

  1. Countable hours was "in the story at some point" but "there were a lot of edits."
  2. He did not attend a single practice before writing the infamous story in which he declares it "sad" that Michigan is employing a guy to belittle its students. (I found this so implausible when I read it that I double-checked with Bacon about this; he dug up the email he had gotten from Rosenberg as proof.)
  3. He told multiple Michigan employees that he "hated Bill Martin" and "was going to get him run out of his job."
  4. He got teary when Michigan fans left nasty reviews of his book on Amazon.

Rosenberg has taken to twitter to call Bacon a "fan" and claim the book is "littered with errors," complaining that Bacon made "almost no attempt to talk to anybody who would contradict his subject's point of view."

How Rosenberg knows this is unknown. Bacon states in the book that he repeatedly tried to talk to Martin, Coleman, Carr, and Brandon but never got anywhere. Certainly Brandon's response to the book—a disingenuous "what book?" issued at the same time he's pressuring the M-Den not to carry it and Bacon has been exiled to Drew Sharp Row—indicates the sort of cooperation the AD is providing the guy.

Meanwhile, the height of irony:

When I asked Rosenberg if they had made any attempt to talk to players with different views, he replied, "Did we keep calling until we got guys to say, 'Hey, it's fine?' No, we didn't."

The difference between Bacon's book—which contains a half-dozen quotes from Rosenberg as it attempts to show both sides of the story—and the Free Press piece is stark. The [REDACTED] has the balls to complain about Bacon's approach to journalism? After the NCAA called the original article exaggerated and misleading? After they took countable hours out of the story? /head explodes

That this guy still has a job is a black mark on the Free Press. That he's still allowed to show up at press conferences is inexplicable. That he has the chutzpah to criticize someone else's journalism is totally expected, because he's just that kind of guy.

Players of all varieties

The only enjoyable parts of the book are the moments when Michigan's players come into focus. I suspect that Bacon soft-pedaled some of the Tate stuff. He comes off as a fairly likeable, if pretty weird, kid. Denard and Devin and Mark Moundros and Ryan Van Bergen and Mike Martin all come off well.

At least we've got that after the last few years. Michigan's players are easy to root for. They don't put MIKE VICK on their eyeblack or fracture skulls or not pay for tattoos or give quotes about how "everybody murders" to the media. They leave all that stuff to the adults.

Dave Brandon

That feeling you got at the end of the Hoke press conference when Brandon was talking and you thought "Rodriguez was a dead man even before the bowl" is a feeling most of the players had. Bacon, too, which he made more explicit than he did in the book in an appearance on the Huge show yesterday.

Brandon's drawn-out firing process does seem like an unnecessary delay of an already-made decision. The impression Bacon got was the players thought Rodriguez was done, people around the program felt Brandon was hoping for a loss in the bowl game. So cut the cord already.

We don't get much else on the current AD.

Comments

UMfan21

October 27th, 2011 at 11:43 PM ^

Disclaimer:  I still need to pick up a copy. However, I have read all the spoilers and I have one burning question that I've seen some others mention, but no one has really offered an answer: 

Why would Lloyd go out on a limb to offer RichRod (beyond his authority really) and then turn on him in such a short time?  Surely Lloyd of anyone, would know it takes at least 3 years to make such a drastic change in scheme.  Lloyd of anyone knew what the future talent level looked like.

My guesses of possible motives, and I'd love to hear others thoughts since Carr will probably never speak of this:

 

1. Lloyd had plans for Hoke or someone else all along, and wanted to set RR up for failure all along.  This is devious, but possible

2. Similar to #1, but maybe Lloyd got tired of all the "lloydball" talk and though that switching to a "radical" spread offense that failed might bring the fans crying back for "manball". Again, devious.

3. Lloyd genuinely believed in RR but other forces came into play and either drove a wedge between Lloyd and RR, or caused Lloyd to rethink his opinion of RR.  I find this hard to believe since Lloyd seems to be a smart man and stubborn in his ways.  I don't think others would influence him.

4. Lloyd simply felt RR was not getting it done on the field (again, I would find this hard to believe given what Lloyd knows about football, and specifically UofM's short term future).

5. RR did something to piss of LLoyd

6. Lloyd felt RR was embarassing the program (court cases, bad press, stretchgate, etc).  Maybe it churned his stomach.

7. We know Lloyd alledgedly asked RR to "have your people stop smearing me".  Maybe Lloyd (probably wrongfully) felt others were against him earlier and put him on the defense early on?

Anything else?  I apologize if this is in the book, I haven't seen anyone really answer this, and to me it's the saddest part of the story.  To put myself in RR's position, to have a successful predecessor hand pick you as their successor and then turn on you in a matter of 2-3 years is tragic. 

bmacdude

October 28th, 2011 at 9:36 AM ^

Not done with the book, but can't put it down, but work is getting in the way.  Thoughts to come when finished, however, one thing I need clarified.  Bacon, talked about Gardner graduating early from Romulus High School.  Gardner went to Inkster.  I feel pretty confident about this.

bigtime23

October 28th, 2011 at 11:36 AM ^

About 2/3 through the book.  Hard reliving 08-09, but agree with previous comments that having Rosenberg (and Snyder) discredited as serious journalists was fun to read.   I hope that hack suffers professionally.