Three And Out: The Questioning

So who was your kid that you felt deserved an offer and was ignored?  

These kind of BS stories just kill me.   We got most of our players from Ohio in the RR era.   Did we not recruit BWC, Fischer, Gordon, Gordon, etc...?   Did these kids break into Michigan when RR wasn't looking because he was too busy in Florida?

All coaches hear the same bs stories.  Lloyd was attacked in the same way.  They didn't offer soon enough, they are getting outworked, Lloyd didn't cater enough to the high level recruits..

The facts are that when RR did not have the cloud of firing over his head the 1st full year, they recruited very well.  After that you can't even make a decent guess on their recruiting because to the negativity and NCAA cloud over their head. 

Brandon really has the best of both worlds.  He may perceive it as like a corporation and run it as such, but in fact it isn't.  As long as things are running smoothly (i.e. we are winning) his accountability is limited, presumably to the President and Regents.  Donors may provide money but they really get no explicit rights in return...other than the right to turn off the spigot.

anymore than the Freep guys (they will be nameless to me). Bacon's motivated by 1 thing, and that's selling books, not presenting an accurate picture of Michigan. And, now, his gravy train is out.

Yeah I knew about the Bo - Nehlen - RR connection.  Is your statement

[Nehlen] told RR what a great place Michigan was and that's why RR  was able to walk away from WVU whe Michigan came calling 

A fact or conjecture?  I can't recall seeing any evidence or stories that RR had some kind of well developed positive opinion of UM prior to taking the job.

Also Bo-Moeller-Hoke is closely equivalent to Bo-Nehlen-RR except for two things.  One, Hoke worked here.  Two, Hoke says he has had a well developed positive opinion of UM for his whole life.  Kind of like how Meyer supposedly had the buyout clause for OSU, UM, and ND.  Without any direct (or even indirect?) connection to UM/UM football, Meyer still has a well developed positive opinion about Michigan.

How could RR possibly want the top dual threat qb recruit when he had Mallett, Threet and Sheridan to run his spread offense?  The nerve of that guy. 

People seem to forget that RR was hired in December.  The pickings at QB were slim that year and especially at that time of year.  He attempted to recruit other dual threat qb's, including USF's starting QB BJ Daniels, whose reps reportedly went all Cecil Newton and demanded compensation.  RR did not ignore other QB's for Pryor, although he, along with OSU and PSU certainly wanted Pryor (who would have been great in RR's offense by the way).

The very next year, RR got commits from Newsome, Beaver (both of who later decommitted and have done nothing since), Forcier (a 4 star dual threat qb - who ran the offense pretty well as a freshman and was a great backup last year) and then he got the top dual threat in Gardner the following year.

The only thing I was worried about was whether or not we would see improvements with the football and basketball programs under DB.  I think he has done a good job since he has been here.  I was worried because Dominos Pizza has been the same shitty pizza before during and after DB was the CEO.  We knew he could bring in the $, the question was, could he improve the quality of the product. 

Freep like.

...but the truth hurting is a fair thing to be disappointed about.  You're right in that finding out about problems and fixing them is better than letting the problems persist, but coming from the place where you didn't even think the problems existed, it's a step down and a disappointment.

Yeah, this.  It's hard to conceive of all the egos that are at stake in something like Michigan football.  Figuring out the dynamic between them is all the more difficult.

And actively pushing it away. The latter is an act of ignorance, but as much to blame on those around him (AD, etc.) for not helping to educate him. The latter is a willful act of hubris, which lays at your own feet if it doesn't work out.  For every "so and so in undermining Rich" rumor, there were an equal amount of "Rich is trashing how things were done here bofore behind closed doors" one.  It seems Bacon concentrated on the former, but perhaps, if Rich isn't happy, he did some of the latter too (though it sounds more like it's because of the "acts of desperation" thing). So Bacon should be asked, did he get the impression from those around the program that Rich was outright ignoring the past, and trashing what was done before him?  Or was it something just completely new to him, and Martin did a horrible job meshing him into the program?  Because for all the "no support" talk, I've heard a lot saying that Rich didn't exactly endear himself to people to get any support.