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Brian

1/11/2011 – Brady Hoke 1, Internet 0 – 0-0

I follow a blog called "Fund My Mutual Fund." The title should be taken literally: the guy running the blog wants you to pledge money so that he can get a mutual fund based on his stock picking method off the ground. He's done amazingly well on a publicly-tracked simulator, has sufficient pledges to break even, and is in the process of getting SEC approval after establishing a years-long track record. He's good.

He struggles when his method (technical analysis) is battered by external events that cause the stock market to veer from a well-established logical way of doing things, which is happening a lot lately thanks to Ben Bernanke. He responds to these events by publicly reminding himself the underlying fundamentals have changed, that logic means one thing when you're talking about five years and another when you're talking about five days and that even if the market goes up for stupid reasons it's going up. Here's one from this morning. He also lacerates the country's financial honchos in sarcasm-laden posts that get a little tiresome the tenth time you read essentially the same thing. He went to Michigan, too. He might be my Tyler Durden, or maybe I'm his.

A couple weeks ago I proclaimed there was a "zero point zero" percent chance that Brady Hoke was named Michigan's head coach because I assumed Hoke's flimsy resume was only acceptable to people who really truly believe that Michigan Men are Michigan Men who make other Michigan Men, who in turn create more Michigan Men until you enter a warehouse and it's like that terrible Will Smith movie with winged helmets.

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My underlying assumption was that David Brandon was a cold-hearted corporatist who would tell someone to assemble a powerpoint about head coaching candidates and take the Michigan Man stuff as merely a relevant bullet point. I was wrong. Brandon is king of the Michigan Men, and my predictive performance has lagged the market.

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Not much of consequence was said at yesterday's press conference to introduce Brady Hoke—that is the way of things—but at the very end Dave Brandon started pointing and became emphatic and the world rearranged itself:

That's the athletic director version of Kurt Wermers saying "not my kind of crowd." Rich Rodriguez never had a chance after the Ohio State game. Why David Brandon decided to go on with a dog and pony show even he admits was pointless should be a frustrating mystery, but it's not. People had to be placated. This program will eat itself alive if given half a chance.

So maybe Brady Hoke is the best choice. This organ transplant will not be rejected. Given time and an upperclass quarterback or two and a defensive staff that's not utterly clueless, Brady Hoke will quickly prove himself to be the one true Notriguez. He'll quickly improve the program and get Michigan back to being Michigan.

But I think the way this went down proves that all the things rivals say about Michigan are true. This is an unbelievably arrogant program convinced its past glories are greater and more recent than they are, certain outsiders have nothing to teach it. We will enter bowl games against opponents that say "boy, that Michigan just lines up and comes after you," and we probably won't win many of them. We never have, and trying to out-execute Alabama or Oregon seems like a tall order these days.

I hoped we could be block-M Michigan without that, that we could have an exciting, modern offense that pumped out Michigan Men and maybe shredded Oklahoma for 48 points in a BCS game. I hoped we could reboot the program, keeping the things we treasure about it but maybe leaving the dismal bowl record and recent inability to compete with Ohio State behind. For a lot of reasons we can't. We are who we are.

So, no, I'm not super happy. On the field I was done with Lloyd Carr, done with punting from the 34 and running the same damn zone stretch thirty times a game, done with the premise that it's only the players who have to execute on gameday. To me, getting back to being Michigan means going 9-3 and losing to Jim Tressel. I remember thinking "this is the year" every year growing up, expecting great things literally every season until Rodriguez showed up and Mallett transferred. I don't think that now, and I can't imagine feeling like that in the future. Sometimes having an identity feels like having a ceiling.

Non-Bullets Of Explanation

That said and true, this also. On the other hand, the past is not destiny. Jon Chait provides the best possible perspective:

Selecting a coach is a lot like selecting a recruit. The resume is the equivalent of a recruiting ranking. With recruits, a high ranking correlates with success, but a correlation is only probability, not certainty. Sometimes high-ranking recruits flame out, and sometimes sleeper recruits turn into stars.

While I'm down on the hire except insofar as it appears to be the only one that would get institutional support, Hoke could surprise people. He's in a great spot to immediately improve a team that returns damn near everyone and should profit from that momentum. Rich Rodriguez was always pushing uphill; Hoke has a much easier path to positive attention.

I didn't want to say this during the many fire-Rodriguez discussions because it seemed like the most cynical thing imaginable, but cutting Rodriguez loose right now sets the new guy up to look like 2006 Ron English after he replaced Jim Herrmann and inherited Woodley/Branch/Hall/Harris: a freaking genius. We'd find out during The Horror that he was not, but for a year the guy was untouchable. Hoke is going to get all the rope left over from the Rodriguez era and then some.

So, yes, the internet has overreacted.

I will swear now. The inbox is overflowing with pleas of varying levels of politeness to get behind Hoke, stop being so negative, etc. If you phrased it nicely, I appreciate the sentiment and the too-generous belief that I have any influence over the success or failure of Michigan's head coach. I'm not going to change my opinion overnight, however, and this remains a No Sugarcoat zone. No sugarcoat. I can promise that I'll go into the Hoke era looking for reasons he'll work out (you know, on-field reasons, not "Brady Hoke is the best human" stuff), if only because of human nature. His flexibility with Nate Davis and successful deployment of Rocky Long as a 3-3-5 DC gives me hope he's not a stick in the mud, and I'm sure Craig Ross is mailing him the Romer paper as we speak.

If you called me a hypocrite for not liking the hire when I didn't like the three years of shit Rich Rodriguez had to wade through when I haven't said one negative thing about Hoke that does not boil down to "does not have a thrilling resume," please fuck off and die. Especially people complaining about how constantly negative I am when I spent the last three years as the last guy on to die on Rodriguez Hill, as a commenter whose name I can't remember aptly put it. Double especially for people complaining like that a week after calling Rodriguez a "hillbilly" because "only hillbillies leave their alma mater."

What I am negative about is the Carr-era players—like the hillbilly guy above—whose loyalty to the program stops at the water's edge. Aside from one recent Harlan Huckleby outburst, the Bo guys either shut their traps or tried in vain to support the head coach at the University of Michigan. But I've made that point over and over again. (Mike "I support the head coach x1000" Hart is an obvious exception to this and should have been the model for his teammates.) The culture that made the last three years happen is petty and arrogant and utterly fails to live up to the Michigan Man ideal it pretends to espouse, and though I'm about a day from shutting up about it because even I'm tired of it I'm not backing off.

This will be fun. I hope everyone loves Jason Whitlock columns, because we're about to get a boatload of them. As Over The Pylon points out:

In a panicked desperate move, the administration at BSU freaked out and hired an in house coordinator to quiet the fans and hopefully maintain the momentum that was building. Michigan did much the same, only the “in house” became “Michigan experience” and the “maintain momentum” became “rebuild the program”. In BSU’s case, the failsafe went 6-18. Let’s hope for UM’s, Brady’s and everyone associated with the Wolverines’ sanity that the performance isn’t also duplicated, lest they become the target of one particular columnist with a national audience, a significantly close connection to the head coach, and a nicely sized ax that could always use some grinding.

Guh. Win, Brady, or we'll all suffer. Meanwhile, if you'd like a condescending lecture Dan Wetzel has you covered.

Carty on the dude. You can hate on Carty if you want but this is probably more interesting than anything that's been written about him so far:

The thing that separated Brady Hoke from most assistant coaches under Lloyd Carr was the confidence to be the same guy in a media interview as he was when the cameras were off. Michigan assistants never talked much in those days, and when they did, most of them were obviously concerned about saying something that would be met with disapproval by their boss.

Hoke wasn't very polished or made-for-television, something he poked fun at himself. He laughed a lot more than the other assistants did, at least in public. When he did do interviews, he asked more questions than most assistants and seemed genuinely interested in how reporters did their jobs. When a sensitive topic came up, he'd simply chuckle and say, "You know I'm not going to talk about that." He didn't shy away from criticizing players or performances when he had to. I don't ever remember him asking to go off the record or take back something he said, both common practices with assistant coaches at Michigan and elsewhere.

There are a couple more paragraphs to go along with the Ann Arbor News's entire republished archive of Hokemania.

Search fiasco: somehow still growing. I still think Jim Harbaugh was supposed to be Michigan's next head coach before he backed out sometime after it became clear the NFL wanted him badly, thus resulting in the month-long post-OSU limbo and panicked search, but seriously if Dave Brandon means what he says about not offering Miles the job he traded the opportunity to not obliterate Michigan's chances with a few key recruits for some PR. If this was going to be the result Hoke should have been hired two seconds after Rodriguez went out the door—there were no serious overtures made towards anyone else except maybe Pat Fitzgerald.

Elsewhere, Or The Best In Overreaction

Braves & Birds:

My verdict on the Hoke hire depends somewhat on my view of the Lloyd Carr era.  I liked Carr as a coach and as a representative of the University, but I wasn’t upset when he retired in large part because he had not done a good job of surrounding himself with top-notch coaches.  It’s in this respect that he is no Bo.  Bo Schembechler created modern Michigan football and one aspect of his greatness was that his coaching tree was excellent.  Carr, on the other hand, doesn’t have a coaching tree to speak of.  Thus, the two obvious candidates for Michigan’s head coaching position were Jim Harbaugh – a Bo quarterback whom Carr declined to hire when he was looking for a quarterback coach – and Les Miles – a Bo lineman/assistant whom Carr reputedly did not want as his replacement in 2007.  If Dave Brandon’s much-discussed Process was designed to bring back a Michigan Man from Bo’s lineage, then that would have been fine because hiring a Bo protege can be done on merit.  The fact that the Process produced the one sickly branch from the Carr tree is the reason why Hoke’s hire has been greeted by articles with titles like "Advice for the Despondent."

One bit of Maize 'n' Brew:

This team spent the last three years building something, and I spent the last three years not simply waiting for future glory but anticipating it.  Times were certainly tough, but I could still see the payoff at the end.  The top ten offense paired with what I still believe could have been a fast, havoc wreaking defense with a couple more years of experience and depth--and probably a new coordinator.  It wasn't always easy to watch the games, and the losing streaks against rivals always hurt, but I could take the taunts and laughter from other teams fans because I believed.  That belief wasn't ever there under Lloyd.  It was always just an ominous feeling that the other shoe was about to drop.

Another bit was not happy after the hire, either, focusing mostly on the Les Miles discussion that does not and never will end up being an offer.

I have no idea how I got to Hashiell Dammit, but if you reference Straight Bangin' in your post well, that's old school:

You know it‘s a bad decision when one’s first reaction to the news is to draw easy comparisons between Michigan football and the Big 3 Automakers decline and to scramble to the Wikipedia page for the Romanovs to confirm that yes, this moment fits perfectly within the arc of a decaying empire. The emptiness that follows, however, is a bitch.

For its part, Straight Bangin' is "paralyzed." That's probably for the best.

Touch the Banner surveys the team and attempts to find out who fits. Slot receivers have to be saying "WTF" to themselves. HSR wants Michigan Replay back, but I don't think that had anything to do with Rodriguez. IIRC the producer lost his job with the IMG switchover and owned the rights to the name and possibly the music. This totally happened 110 years ago.

Comments

promzek

January 13th, 2011 at 7:46 PM ^

Brian, well said.  RR was a disaster in so many ways, but he gave us hope that there could be a better day coming.  the worse part of the Hoke hire is the capitulation to reach higher and instead settle to be what we used to be.


For all the revisionist historians, do you remember that last misserable years of the Lloyd dynasty?  Do you remember having a top 5 recruiting class as seniors there were pre-season top 5 and promptly lost to Appalachian state?  Do you remember the predictable offense and bend but don't break defense that often broke.  Remember the hopelessnes of knowing that it would never get better because of the guy leading the program. 

Don't get me wrong, I have always supported the program and will now.  But I sense we "settled" for above average instead of striving for exceptional.  Let's be honest, we hired an above average (on a good day) coach.  We did not hire a great coach.  Even his advocates use words like "he's solid".  Wow, solid, that is exciting.   Lloydball here we come.

I will support Hoke, but he needs to win.  It is nice that he is a"nice guy".  It is helpful that he is a Michigan man.  None of it matters if he only returns us to the mediocrity we had become.  I wish we aspired for more.

Hoke refused to even conceed after like 4 questions that he even aspired for a National Championship. 

So if we are really successful, we rework the program again, broom recruits and rebuild over only to achieve mediocrity in a few years.  I for one, am hopeful, but not very excited about any of this.  I feel we have given up on greater dreams and that is the real shame..

BlueGoM

January 13th, 2011 at 8:47 PM ^

One of the better posts by Brian.  Generally I agree with his sentiments - Carr era was good but you got the feeling that we were always so close yet so far away;  things started to slip towards the end, then Rich Rod tried to reinvent our stone Flinstones type wheel into a modern Perelli with the (in hindsight) predictable growing pains.

Wolverrrrrrroudy

January 14th, 2011 at 10:41 AM ^

slipping meaning last two years of Carr we were in the National title hunt until the end in 2006 and in 2007 we beat the defending National Champion on their turf with their Heisman winner (not to mention it was a team from the dreaded SEC for which apparently everyone has given up hoke that we can participate.

ottomatic

January 13th, 2011 at 8:51 PM ^

So let me understand. Michigan Football was a cesspool of mediocrity until RR came along and turned things around? And the only thing between RR and a string of National Championships, not-withstanding the historically bad defenses and special teams, was that failure of ex-players to join the coach in a Josh Grobin sing-along.

All I need to do to buy that version of events is ignore the record and my lying eyes. Seems to me that the ex-players treated RR about the same way that RR treated Ryan Mallett. Running Ryan Mallet out was the act of a man placing his ego over the good of the program and pre-shadowed an epoch fail.

BlueGoM

January 13th, 2011 at 9:16 PM ^

>>Running Ryan Mallet out

Everyone say it with me:   Mallet wanted to leave before RR was ever hired.

Also do you think a 6 ft 7 , 240+ pound QB, who is not a good runner,  is a good fit for the spread?  It's obvious why Mallet left.

The below shamelessly taken from another poster, thnx TennBlue

Mallett had decided to transfer before the end of the season before Rodriguez was hired, largely because he had really wanted to be at Arkansas in the first place but didn't want to sit on the bench behind Mitch Mustain.  He tried a season at Michigan, didn't like it, and was on his way back to Arkansas.

Rodriguez tried to talk to him several times about staying, but Mallett wasn't interested.

ottomatic

January 13th, 2011 at 11:05 PM ^

I've heard Brady Hoke publicly state that he'll fit the style to the players, the Seniors. He publicly put the players first. I don't recall RR making that same play for Mallett or anybody else. In fact he seemed pretty disdainful of the old school talent. You know - they kind of guys who ended up going to MSU and kicking our ass.

It doesn't really matter if Mallet wanted to leave. I want to leave my wife some days - but I never do because she keeps being nice to me. My point is; RR acted for all the world like he didn't give a rat's ass if RM left A2. In retorospect I'd say that was pretty stupid on multiple levels. 

As for all the talk on these boards about how at least RR made them feel hopeful; in psychiatry that's called a subjective act of longing - it's typically a weak stand-in for reality.

InterM

January 14th, 2011 at 2:05 PM ^

There's this handy thing called "google," so you don't have to rely on what you "recall" about why Mallett left.  You can, for example, read what Mallett himself said about why he transferred:

I just felt forced out, not by any person, but by the system . . . I just don't think me and his system . . . it just doesn't fit.

His mother added:

(Rodriguez) was saying all these things may come to pass. But Ryan didn't want to take the chance of it not happening.

That article also confirms that there was one in-person meeting and two phone calls between Rodriguez and Mallett before the transfer. But hey, at least Mike Rosenberg agrees with your version:

Rodriguez said he wanted Mallett to stay. I'm still not convinced that he did.

Raoul

January 13th, 2011 at 11:41 PM ^

Also do you think a 6 ft 7 , 240+ pound QB, who is not a good runner,  is a good fit for the spread?  It's obvious why Mallet left.

It's also obvious that Rodriguez had no intention of adapting his schemes to the personnel he inherited (including the other quarterbacks). He may have half-heartedly talked to Mallett about staying, but it's pretty clear he didn't want him as his quarterback (someone else has posted here that Rodriguez never met with Mallett face-to-face, he only talked to him over the phone).

This was a mutual parting, in my opinion.

Neodoomium

January 13th, 2011 at 9:00 PM ^

Brian's article does a better job at explaining how I feel about this than anything I could have said. 

 

The criticisms of the way Brian has analyzed this situation strike me primarily as the same type of fan that is angry that you have dared to stand during the game at the stadium: Pollyanna-ish blue hairs that are unable to process negativity about their beloved program.

bdneely4

January 13th, 2011 at 10:06 PM ^

is that he seems to want to be at no ther place than Michigan.  You have to love that fromt he man.  If there was one thing that I never could trust from RichRod, it was that I never knew if he was here to stay.  Brady Hoke is here to stay!

GO BLUE!

SixWingedAngel

January 13th, 2011 at 10:10 PM ^

I agree wholeheartedly.  This is one of the best posts I have read in a long time.  More than anything right now, I feel resigned.  Do not misunderstand me, I will vigorously support this team, this coach, and this program for as long as I have the voice to do so, but right now I feel like we have thrown in the towel.

NJblue2

January 13th, 2011 at 11:18 PM ^

I have to agree 100% with Brian on this one. Hopefully our offense isn't super boring like it is in the NFL or Wisconsin. I have the feeling that Hoke will make us average. We probably won't be beating OSU regularly for awhile, and we might a win a bowl here or there.

WorldwideTJRob

January 14th, 2011 at 12:51 AM ^

First off, we haven't seen Hoke play one offensive down and people are already talking like its back to 3 yards and a cloud of dust. He has said he will tailor his offense to the players he has now and will gradually change to a pro-set. I guess my thought is that there are more than one way to skin a cat, and any offense can win big given good personnel and a D that can stop people.

Wolverrrrrrroudy

January 14th, 2011 at 9:55 AM ^

I just don't recall how we got to a point where Carr was considered boring and ineffictive and RR was going in the right direction.  He set the bar so low in year 1 and year 2 that yes of course we could show improvement in year 3.  From 9-4 with Carr in 2007 to 3-9 in year 1.  I know, I know... people have exhaustively listed the reasons for the drop off in Y1, and Y2 and then even Y3.

Still if we went 3-9 next year with Hoke after a 7-6 year, no one will be lining up to offer any excuses.

Badkitty

January 14th, 2011 at 2:39 AM ^

First of all I want to ask Brian if this blog supports Firefox, I've been trying unsuccessfully to log on for the last few days with Firefox and finally am able to do it with Safari.

I have to agree with Brian.  It isn't Brady Hoke I dislike, it's this whole disingenuous hiring process that we just went through.  

Yes, RR had to go after that Gator Bowl fiasco.  I was resigned to that fact, even though, I thought RR had promise and given enough time might have built us up to an exciting fun football team to watch.  

Then when Brandon said in his press conference that he would pay "market" rates for a head coach, it was like as if the skies opened up and that finally, we were going to get a winning established head coach that would take our program to the next level.  Even though I didn't understand the level of Harbaugh-love that the fandom expressed, I could have lived with JH.  And Les Miles.  And for all the Gruden-lovers out there, although I thought some were a bit off-kilter with the Gruden-love, I could have respected even that choice had Brandon made an offer because it was outside the box.  

But Hoke?  Come on.  As many others have pointed out, he wouldn't have rated a first look if he were not a "Michigan Man" or more likely,  one of Lloyd Carr's assistants. Funny how that worked out, isn't it?  We didn't get one of Bo's quarterbacks or one of Bo's assistants, but we got one of Lloyds????

Personally, I was hoping we got someone like Gary Patterson.  And for all the bashing about how the Mountain West Conference is a second-tier conference, TCU beat Wisconsin, the Big Ten co-champions.  And oh, we got a coach from the Mountain West Conference, and he isn't even the best coach in that conference.  

I grew up in Ann Arbor and graduated from U of M in 89 and grad school in 92.  I've been a long-term supporter of the program and the team, and I will continue to do so.  I sincerely hope that the team does well this season.  However, the events of the last 2 weeks have really left a bad taste in my mouth.  

M-Dog

January 14th, 2011 at 9:50 AM ^

There's a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth on this board that Hoke = Lloyd.

First of all, just because he coached for Lloyd does not make him Lloyd, any more than Tommy Amaker = Coach K.

But, even if Hoke is similar to Lloyd in the sense that he runs an under center drop-back Pro-I offense, is that so bad?

There were really two Lloyds:  1990's/early 2000's Lloyd and mid 2000's Lloyd. 

1990's/early 2000's Lloyd kicked some ass . . . OSU ass, Big 10 ass, SEC ass, BCS ass, even MNC ass.  Those were some quality teams.  We were then what OSU is now, which is not a bad thing to be.

By the mid 2000's, Lloyd did indeed check out a little.  He was ready to be done, by his own admission.  For some reason, that seems to be the Lloyd regime that folks on this board are remembering instead of the earlier one.

Lloyd in his prime was very close to the ideal.  Yes, we would have liked to see a little more flexibility and dynamic play calling.  And the modern era of CFB will demand that from Hoke.

But if what we get out of Hoke is something that approximates Lloyd in his prime with just a little bit more flexibility (Lloyd's Captial One Bowl/Florida offense instead of Lloyd's Rose Bowl/USC offense) then I'm a happy, happy guy. 

GradyWilson

January 14th, 2011 at 10:29 AM ^

What a compelling read. Great job. I apprecitate your honesty and sincerity in a time when both are scarce and of course your analytical insight. 

Thanks for the Fund My Mutual Fund link. I bookmarked it already. For some interesting and entertaining socio/economic commentary I would like to recommend James Kunstler's "ClusterF*ck Nation" blog.