On the day that Tate was born the angels got together and decided to create a dream come true so they sprinkled mooddust in his hair and.....
Tate has bulked up
You can joke all you want, but it is nice to hear that our projected starter is working hard to overcome the biggest complaint from his detractors - his size.
It is nice to hear that he has such a good work ethic, and hopefully he will continue to develop nicely. Some have said that he would have been near a 5* if he was bigger. While he probably won't get much taller, he has been gaining weight. Hopefully he will be as good as advertised.
Thanks for the permission to joke.
I weigh about 190 and can tell you it is not a panacea for injury.
But gordie, is your 190 100% steel-crushing Barwis python meat? Or is it merely 190 pounds of human flesh?
Full disclosure: I have not been Barwisized (patent pending), and little ole mosquito bites bug the hell out of me.
I thought mosquitoes sucked blood. Huh.
Next time I'm feeling possessed, I'll just go outside late at night with no shirt.
He's gained 15 pounds in 6 months or he is gaining at a rate of 30 pounds per year. If this continues he will be nearly 300 pounds of muscle as a senior. While that might reduce the injury risk, it would also add a couple tenths to his 40.
Using your good math skills, by age 30 he would need a Richard Simmons intervention.
Unfortunately, when talking about QB's, height is generally much more relevant than weight.
of the twig we saw lighting up the spring game. Any meat he can add will reduce the likelihood of getting snapped in half.
Really? I don't think muscle prevents injury.
I did a LONG post about how mass, momentum and the resultant forces. It actually might reduce some injuries from when he's hit because the collision won't have as violent acceleration as when McGuffie got shitrocked, for example. Likely, it's the same reasons why QBs suffer proportionally more head injuries on fewer hits than RBs (McGuffie excepted obviously).
Really? You don’t think that adding/strengthening muscle around joints will help protect said joints?
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I'm not going to fight about this.
If he's stronger, and heavier, he should be harder for defenders to bring down. That in turn should help cut down on injuries somewhat.
Mass will cut down on concussions. Mass alone is no where near as important for preventing injuries as conditioning, flexibility, and proper lifting with emphasis on core and stabilizer strength. Having large biceps, sadly, is not going to keep Sean Lee from lighting Tate's ass up.
I just so happen to have a copy of the actual summer workout that they do at Michigan. (You can have one to for $80 bucks)
3 Times a week they make time for prehab, which is rehab before injury to strengthen ligaments and tendons before you have a problem. So hopefully those types of injuries are already accounted for. As far as concussions go he just needs to play smart when running the ball and not see a Lamar Woodley type player running at him and try to take him on as we remember from the Rhode Scholar Drew Stanton.
Also I am pretty sure that the extra muscle should help reduce the risk of someone ripping out his own leg and beating him with it. Just a guess on that last one.
so we can all get a taste of Barwis!!!!
Uhh where'd you get that? I'd like to see it. Probably not for $80 though haha.
I'm a high school coach and at clinics they have them for sale. It is a break down of the their 10 week summer program. Workout logs, exercise guides and nutition information.
They do offer a smaller guide for around 15 dollars at the Strength and Conditioning Clinic as well.
To be honest I have been suprised how forth coming everyone on the staff is to local coaches. I have emailed questions to the support staff there and they really have went the extra mile to explain and make sure we are performing everything correctly.
Barwis has a program for adding height. It's only a matter of time before Tate is 6'3" 220" with a 4.25 forty.
He's been taking Stallone Vitamins™
I thought it was moon-dust... WTH is mood dust?
sort of like my blood, type-o
There were some good quotes in there, but the real question is:
Who is faster Tate or Denard? I"M GOING WITH TATE!!!!
the only way i can see tate winning is if he's wearing the maize jersey and they're racing at night.
through smoke with RAWK music on
wearing these uniforms.
Holy SHIT that's terrible!
coffee on my desk when I saw them.
of UMxWolverines when they saw those?
he loves them.
They would be bad on an Arena team. Flames on the helmet?? Really?
I also found this part interesting:
On recruiting quarterbacks but only being able to play one:
"Keeping the quarterback happy is a tricky thing, because you can only play one at a time. But we have a rule, if we have two or three guys we're able to win with, we're going to play them all. We were able to do that in the past with success at other stops, and guys were able to hang around and do well who bought into the system."
Looks like Denard may be getting some snaps. Not exactly sure how much he means it or to what extent he would play two QB's but if Denard can help this team win I am excited to see him do it.
No question he'll get some snaps... if he shows he deserves them in practice.
Really happy to hear Tate is going to actually be not scrawny. 190lbs is NOT small for a QB.
Good to see that Rich has that view. If a guy can help us win, then they will play. Can't wait to see how the QB situation pans out.
Rod Smith kept saying "Don't forget about Denard" when everyone kept hyping up Tate. I think he'll get a few snaps early on which will increase as he gets a little more adjusted to the system.
15 pounds is no joke boys. Maybe another 3 4 pounds before the season starts??
in my pants.
Someone get Tate some Enzyte!
someone change your Depends.
They're called "Oops I Crapped My Pants"
Yeah wow, 15 lbs is a lot - both trainer and trainee have been training like crazy. This is good news.
You only gain weight in your pants?
a work out by beating the ladies off him
it will be a sad day when the QB at Michigan can't get any tail he wants.
...if you were friends with him on facebook and stalked his pictures like all the super cool well-informed fans.
Makes sense now.
He's getting a workout beating into the ladies
I know there was a post about single game tickets but no one mentioned the all-in package. When do we get our seat assignments?
Oh, yeah, And it's good that Tate is gaining weight!
when your tickets arrive.
There's something odd about reading "All-In-Package" right after posts talking about getting tail.
Thank goodness Tate enrolled early. It may be a little scary to think about having to start him as a freshman, but can you imagine how much scarier it'd be if he'd just showed up now, weighing 175 and having never practiced with the team?
This is why I am not as worried as I usually would be for a freshman starter. How much more prepared would he be right now if he was a 2008 recruit that enrolled last August? Enrolling early and getting all of the snaps in spring ball seems as, if not more valuable than a typical redshirt year with half the snaps in the spring.
I hate to be cynical or sarcastic society, but please explain the logic in this. I must have a real dearth of knowledge for this to be right, so, if so, I want to correct that. Help me.
I'm saying that enrolling early was as good as an entire typical redshirt year and maybe better because of the extensive spring practice.
My expectations for Tate this year are more of a redshirt freshman than a true freshman.
I fail to see why it is better than a RS '08 season.
I think the logic is that somehow if Tate had come in as a RS in 08 the world would have been changed (Tate does have that power you know) and there would have been no broken leg in the spring and thus he would not have got the reps he did. I think.
Beyond this, I gave up trying to understand. Perhaps you should too.
As an OU fan that quote pisses me off SO MUCH!!! I am so angry that I used caps lock and multiple exclamation points, I'll try to control myslef.
this is great news. i think we all knew, but rarely talked about RR's year 2 turnarounds being linked to the time kids had under barwis' system. i have to imagine the benefit will be even greater for guys like Campbell, Emilien and Jones, guys who will be involved in more contact and chasing people all day.
question - how long has early enrollment been an option? forever? are there cases of a true frosh qb who early enrolled that seemed to play at a higher level because of this?
that he is OMG shirtless.
Get all the way down to the bottom of the thread and you stole my thunder
Why don't you go on his facebook page and write on his wall and ask him to post some pics of him with no shirt on. That wouldn't be creepy would it?
but if i were to comment on your shirtless pics it would be cool.
I was gonna say that.
I have no doubts that there are many Michigan Fans(mostly dudes) waiting anxiously on his facebook page for Tate's inevitable OMG shirtless pic. What will follow is what many scientists predict will be the largest expulsion of semen at once on the globe.
Maybe he can bench 150 now.
I was his RA in WQ and was somewhat curious to see our QB not much bigger than, me a lowly 5'6 at 150 lbs.
Tate was quite the resident athlete to handle haha.
Give this man a pat on the back
Hopefully this won't result in a loss of his legit 4.4 speed ;)
I think someone should send this thread to Tate on facebook. Maybe he'll reconsider accepting everyone's friend request.
I fully expect to see D Rob get some reps with a limited playbook, probably starting with a Wildcat (Wild wolve? Wild Wolf? Werewolf?) series and expanding from there as he learns the entire offense.
But who knows? It's all a crapshoot, anyway.
I cast my vote for werewolf.
and permission to joke guy
I can safely say that being more muscular will hardly make a difference in regards to collisions and impact and the like. I mean, I guess Tate might be able to shrug off a cornerbacks arm tackle or something now, but being more muscular doesn't make your joints any more built. They're still fragile as hell - and perhaps even more so on a heavy workout regiment. The kind of strength these guys make under Barwis might even leave them vulnerable to more injury if guys are taking test boosters in addition to normal diets - the body needs a lot of time to get used to all the new found muscle mass, and football players don't really afford their bodies that opportunity.
So no, having a lot of muscle doesn't really protect your joints. It just makes you look sexy. And Tate sure is purty.
As an avid weight lifter, perhaps you should post a shirtless pic of yourself. This might help your credibility. Just sayin.
Yeah. And pantless too...just to help his credibility. No other reason.
You don't want that. The weight he avidly lifts is his own 300lbs.
I think we can have faith that Barwis knows what he's doing when he asks these guys to lift.
I always thought it was more of a physics thing than a joints thing. F=m(a) Like say I'm a 6' 130lb Roy Roundtree standing flat footed and a 6'2" 210lb Brandon Smith just destroys me. I have a much higher chance of breaking a rib/becoming injured than if I was a 6' 215lb Mike Cox standing flat footed. Obviously I'm talking extremes since Tate only gained 15lbs, but you know what I mean.
That is interesting - how did you obtain it?
Do we have stats on how our linemen's weight have changed since last year?
Do they publish bench press numbers?
I bet Marv Marinovich is at home thinking "NO NOT HEAVY WEIGHTS MY WORK IS RUINED"