Spring Stuff: Offense Comment Count

Brian

WELP. In a word, Michigan's offense was ominous. It was ominous—worse than that—in Hoke's first year, though, and that worked out okay as long as Al Borges wasn't trying to make Denard Robinson into a pocket passer. Standard disclaimer about information value of spring.

That stated, yeesh. We knew the situation at tackle was going to be iffy, especially with Magnuson out. Having Mason Cole as the first option at the most important spot on the line was beyond those expectations. Meanwhile, Michigan is prepping the only remaining guy who started every game last year (Graham Glasgow) at right tackle, which they'll say is just precautionary but speaks of some trepidation about Ben Braden. I do not want there to be trepidation about Ben Braden.

Hoke did not mince words when asked if they thought they'd found their best five:

"I don't know if we can say that, honestly," Hoke said. "I know I can't.

"So, I guess the answer is no."

Are the Wolverines even close, really, to identifying the best five?

"No," Hoke said. "Not yet."

That was apparent on the field, where runs generally got to the line of scrimmage (hooray!) and no further (mutter). Pass protection was close to nonexistent. It was what everyone expected, which was bad. They've got five months to figure it out, whereupon they probably won't figure it out. Digging out of a hole as big as Michigan dug last year is a two-year operation.

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Nussmeier and new protégé [Bryan Fuller]

Quarterbacking. Gardner was just two of ten, but Morris was hardly better. Gardner's interception was at least at his receiver; Morris threw one directly into Lewis's chest. In the aftermath there were the usual quotes about how it's an open competition, but, yeah, when the Big Ten Network's main Morris highlight is a pass thrown behind the line of scrimmage that guy isn't displacing a quarterback who averaged 8.6 YPA last year and can run.

Neither quarterback was helped by the pass protection, which forced them to move around and let Michigan's secondary recover. Gardner's move and re-set on one throw allowed Jarrod Wilson to get over to Canteen on a corner route, for example. We have a ton of Gardner data from a year and a half as the starting quarterback. One spring outing isn't going to move the needle.

Speight didn't do much; Bellomy didn't look better than he did against Nebraska.

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Hayes should be a legit option. [Fuller]

Tailbacking. On the few runs on which tailbacks had an opportunity to do something notable it was usually Justice Hayes doing the notable thing. He had a couple of quality cuts in tight areas that got him a nice chunk. Derrick Green had one bounce outside on which he seemed quicker than last year but still not particularly quick; De'Veon Smith also turned in a leg-churning run.

They're all about even, it seems. Michigan will cycle through them looking for one to break out. That's a tough ask given the line. It's platoon time. Michigan still seems to insist that anyone who does not resemble a moose must be relegated to third downs:

"Right now, if we're not in a third down situation, it's De'Veon and Derrick. And then Justice if we get into third down."

There's no reason that Hayes shouldn't be given a look as the feature back after last year's lack of production all around and his evident ability. He was no slouch as a recruit, and being able to pick through traffic is a nice skill to have. You get the impression that Hoke would ride David Underwood for years before even considering Mike Hart. Size isn't everything. Ask the Kansas State team that just eviscerated you with a 5'8" tailback and 5'11" wide receiver.

It's also time for Fred Jackson to preach the simplicity line and throw shade on Al Borges:

"Guys are more consistent now with their reads, going from point A to point B with protections," Michigan running backs coach Fred Jackson said last week on WTKA-AM in Ann Arbor. "By not having a ton of protections and a ton of different runs, it allows the guys to be more consistent in what they're doing."

/waves tiny flag

Of course, the main problem with the blitz pickups last year was not so much the tailback going to the wrong spot but what happened when he met the blitzer. That's on Jackson, not Borges. The thing about not doing every possible thing is great—I've heard that Michigan had 13 different protection schemes last year. 13!

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MOS EISLEY FTW [Eric Upchurch]

Something about a wretched hive of scum and villainy I can't quite figure out. Freddy Canteen went from freshman to Manningham in the space of 15 practices, starting the day opposite Devin Funchess, making the one deep catch of the scrimmage session, and smoking Blake Countess over the top on another pass that Gardner threw short. Countess caught up; it was still reminiscent of 86.

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Almost. [Upchurch]

Also reminiscent of 86, at least as a freshman: people screaming at Canteen about where to line up pre-snap. There was one memorable play in Manningham's freshman year where Fred Jackson was having a conniption fit on the sideline trying to get Manningham to relocate himself; Manningham did not and scored a touchdown anyway. Canteen dredged that memory up on Saturday.

Spring depth etc., but passing Jehu Chesson after a promising freshman year from him is a real thing. The tea leaves here suggest Canteen is the real deal—Michigan does not need a WR savior and has a veritable avalanche of bodies they can put on the outside. Canteen rocketed past last year's WR class and Chesson in 15 practices. It would be easy for Michigan to talk him up and throw him in the slot; instead they appear to be prepping him for a major role on the outside.

"I've been at slot and outside receiver, (I'm comfortable) at both, but I'll play probably more outside," Canteen said. "(I want to be a playmaker), to be honest. I just want to make plays."

Darboh and Chesson will also figure in; with Funchess that gives Michigan four guys with production or hype or both to their name. They're suddenly flush. With York and Dukes—who made a nice diving catch—also available, it seems like Drake Harris and Moe Ways should redshirt.

Let's think about the guy like a football player instead of a traveling circus. I can only assume the light deployment of Dennis Norfleet was for cackling-about-your-mad-plan-in-your-underground-lair reasons. It was encouraging to see them throw an actual route his way, a wheel on which Jourdan Lewis took an unnecessary pass interference flag on an overthrown ball. I support the integration of Dennis Norfleet into the base offense instead of having a completely separate Norfleet offense that always results in him getting the ball going laterally.

Hooray for efficiency. One of the most disconcerting things about Michigan's spring activity is how much standing around there is. For many, they're setting a countable hour on fire. This is apparently not how it works behind closed doors:

"Practices are really fast, we get a lot of reps," Gardner said. "This was probably the fastest practice I've ever been a part of."

There's been plenty of talk about the overall pace Nussmeier -- Michigan's first-year offensive coordinator -- works with in practice, and the overall level of tempo he chooses to play with during games.

Practices are quick. When a play ends, the next group -- according to players -- is expected to be out of the huddle and ready to snap the ball for the next rep. That concept is a simple one: It creates more reps, and for a young team, the more reps the better.

For any team, really. And that should serve Michigan well when they want to change the tempo, something Borges teams were mind-bendingly awful at. Here's a manna from heaven quote:

"I think the biggest thing, you always want to be able to control the tempo on offense -- whether that's to speed the game up or slow the game down," Nussmeier said during an interview with WTKA-AM 1050 in Ann Arbor on Thursday. "We practice at a fast tempo for a lot of reasons. One, it forces our guys to play fast and focus and always concentrate.

"And it also allows us to pick the tempo of the game up (if we need to)."

Hallelujah.

Random Mone quote I missed yesterday. This is an epic nonquote.

"I'm just having fun, being blessed," he said. "Just having fun playing the game is what I think my teammates have noticed. My enthusiasm is the main thing I bring to the field."

Our THREE weapons are having fun, being blessed, and having enthusiasm!

Complaining Section

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WE MUST MAN THE BARRICADES OR OUR FATE IS SEALED

The experience of being at the spring game was not a pleasant one. Brandon further pushed the limits of his promise not to put advertising in Michigan Stadium (a promise he's already broken in a dozen different ways) with large videoboard ads for Comcast and Allstate. There was also some dude kicking a field goal sponsored by PNC. Dude is just itching to turn Michigan's gameday experience into OSU or MSU where the scoreboard looks like a NASCAR driver's jumpsuit and each play is brought to you by Depends Adult Undergarments.

More maddening was the constant—and I mean constant—wedding DJ music, which only dropped out for brief periods in which the band was suffered to play. By the end of the day it appeared like the band just said "screw it, we're playing" and went about fifteen minutes straight. This was a merciful relief.

The music combined with the punting drill section of the day was typical Michigan at this point: we'll be shitty to you, fans, but here is this awesome guitar riff! Hunter Lochmann apparently believes that any deficit can be obscured by music. If things go poorly this season expect them to try two songs at once for the entirety of the Penn State game. One of them will be Phil Collins, because that's the soul of football.

The contrast between the NCAA tournament regional the week before and the spring game could not have been greater. The tournament is a great event the NCAA gets out of the way of. Michigan has a crappy event they try to dress up. Hoke's disregard for the fanbase hurts their ability to make it a non-crappy event, of course. Michigan remain focused on one thing and one thing only: strip-mining revenue from the banks of fan loyalty like it is an infinite resource.

Any things they do that are actually fan-friendly, like bringing in a slightly less rank standard of nonconference opponent, are because they have reached the limit of their ability to strip-mine. Michigan reminded fans in attendance to renew their season tickets—an announcement that never needed to be made before.

It would be one thing if the people making these decisions did anything but ape whoever their counterparts are in the ECHL. They have no concept of forming an identity to rally around. They just have spreadsheets.

Comments

GoBLUinTX

April 8th, 2014 at 2:57 PM ^

They have a new playbook, they are installing a new blocking scheme, and the new scheme requires a different way of blocking. Moreover, four of the OL didn't participate in the scrimmage, Magnuson, Fox, Bars, and Burzynksi. Additionally Michigan has a real shot of bringing Lindsay on board. So yes, it is fair and reasonable to say that no starting line has been identified. What is unreasonable is to demand a depth chart be published right here and now given the number of unknowns irrespective of what happened during spring practice.

I know many of you can remember 2006 and the clusterfuck of installing the zoneblocking scheme during spring practice, and that was without changing the entire offense.  That turned out pretty fair didn't it?  Let's step away from the ledge for a few months and see what shakes out.  Shall we?

maize-blue

April 8th, 2014 at 3:17 PM ^

It's very ominous for sure.

But the only things I hope they can achieve this season is to drastically reduce the number of negative plays and create average pass protection. For me, that would be a big improvement from 2013.

I don't think this team will be rushing for a ton of yards this season so the passing game is once again going to be important. If Devin gets knocked around similar to last year, this is going to be another long season.

Space Coyote

April 8th, 2014 at 4:12 PM ^

Not sure if they switched from hand blocking to flipper blocking, but yes, they did run zone last year. They started mostly as a zone stretch scheme (which Nuss won't run a ton, but will run), by the end of the year they were mostly inside zone. They didn't seem to rep much inside zone until after the 2nd bye though, because it was very rare before then.

uofmdds96

April 8th, 2014 at 3:05 PM ^

I have looked at Mden and footballfanatics.com but no luck.  Anyone have any thoughts on where to look to pick this up?  I thought that Mden was the official clothier, but it is not on the site, or in the store.

Thanks, I will hang up and listen.

TheNema

April 8th, 2014 at 3:10 PM ^

"Bellomy didn't look better than he did against Nebraska."

Of course he didn't. That's him. I can't believe two years ago people were actually excited about him in the spring game. He flashed the same dead arm strength then that he did against Nebraska.

He's the least physically talented scholarship quarterback I have ever seen here. His offer should have served as a grave warning about Borges and his eye.

gbdub

April 8th, 2014 at 4:30 PM ^

Plus it's not like Bellomy was a prime option A target the way Morris and Speight were. He was a late addition picked up mostly to plug a body into a hole in the roster. Anything we get out of him is a bonus.

ND Sux

April 9th, 2014 at 12:50 PM ^

Michigan players because they haven't lived up to your expectations.  These are students, teammates, backups, guys who push others, and future Michigan alums.  For all you know, Bellomy might be the best wing-man on the team. 

Enjoy your negs, you've earned them. 

Trolling

April 8th, 2014 at 3:23 PM ^

If we do become the Stadium of the Depend Adult Undergarment (S.D.A.U.) then at least it will be under a hopefully less incompetent O.N.A.N.C.A.A. 

StephenRKass

April 8th, 2014 at 3:25 PM ^

I do believe that things will change eventually, and we will see more of a Spring "game" in the future. The lack of depth, especially on the offensive line, was a serious, serious liability, and makes it much more difficult to play a real game. It truly is my belief that one year from now, we will have sufficient depth and knowledge of base plays, etc., to play much more of a game than happened this year.

I personally find Hoke very personable, and also think Brandon gets far too much grief. The financial arms race creates a lot of stress. However, Michigan fans have made themselves clear, and I stand with that group which wants to avoid endless commercialism.

Bodogblog

April 8th, 2014 at 3:31 PM ^

and has to stop.  But I don't get the rest.  Hoke is putting his emphasis on doing what he needs to win - practicing exactly as he needs/wants to during those limited and precious 15 days.  Brandon is letting him do it.  I don't want them doing anything else.  What you're shoving out of the way in effort to jump in front of the Brandon/twirling mustache line is this key fact: getting better is most important, everything else is secondary.  Yes, people will say a real scrimmage could have been accomodated.  Well maybe they want that closed in Glick and not open to the public.  Maybe they had a real scrimmage Thursday, and doing it again Saturday is too tiring - or too dangerous - for the players.  Why not flip them?  I trust the football coaches to make that decision over the fans.

The advertisement dollars provide money for Mott Hospital.  They are not paying for televisions in the toilet stalls.  And is there not an inherent contradiction here: you flay Brandon for foolishly trying to create "wow" experiences, but for this game you were not sufficiently wow'd.

gbdub

April 8th, 2014 at 4:52 PM ^

If a Spring Game is really detrimental to the team, don't have it at all. Just say, sorry everybody, we really need to focus on practice, so there will be no public practice.

Of course, the idea that it really is detrimental is silly. One practice out of 15 in April is not goin to win or lose any games (and if it is we have bigger problems). Do extra punt drills on Thursday and do more fan-friendly stuff at the spring game.

If they wanted it to be a "game" or real two team scrimmage, they have the bodies to do it. Maybe they can't field two good teams, but it would still be fun to watch (and probably a fun reward for the players too).

You've missed the point of the "wow moment" critique. The problem with the "Dave Brandon Wow Moment (TM) is that it tends to be divorced from any tradition or anything uniquely Michigan. No DJ'd music or scoreboard gimmicks will ever be "wow" because you can already see a better version of that in every sterile corporate venue in the country.

The problem with the Dave Brandon Wow Moment (TM) is it's very premise. You cannot manufacture wow.

Bodogblog

April 8th, 2014 at 5:45 PM ^

If you think the idea that optimizing every one of 15 practices isn't foremost in the coaches minds, you don't know football coaches.  Giving one away isn't on their agenda.  And they don't want to do more punt drills Thursday to please you.  They want to win.  Pitt cancelled their spring game for this reason - they didn't want to waste a practice.  Are they silly?  Or are you smarter than them in terms of what's best for a football team?  Rhetorical questions both.

And if Michigan did cancel the spring game, I'd wager you'd be still be complaining about Brandon.  Just in a different way. 

Wow factor, I'm not missing anything.  I dislike much of it.  But people are criticizing Brandon because the event was boring - which I believe is silly because I think he's letting the coaches determine the agenda, as he should - and on the other side of their mouth complain that he's spraying too much wow.  What if Brandon forced Hoke to hold an actual game?  Complaints that he's too involved.  When every chosen road ends with the character's car being turned over by an angry mob, I start to question the authors of that story.

gbdub

April 8th, 2014 at 7:09 PM ^

So, in your opinion, no coach should ever do anything for the benefit of the patrons. Guess the Nebraska guys are real schmoes for letting some sick little kid cut into their practice time. And Meyer and Saban are real idiots for putting on more entertaining spring games (and then beating us in the fall despite giving up such a key practice).

The Spring Game was not an optimal practice anyway - I doubt optimal practice involves that much standing around and assorted fluff.

But whatever, if the much smarter than me coaches think a Spring Game is bad for the team, don't hold it. Or do hold it and just call it an open practice and not expect 15000 people to show. I'd respect either option. But don't tell me to come out to a special event and support you and then ignore me while I'm there, that's just rude to the folks paying the bills. Run a real practice, or put on a real show, but this halfway approach is kind of lame.

Brian is merely stating his opinion that this event was dull and poorly organized, and the things they did to make it not dull failed to achieve that. This is a valid opinion. The tv broadcast was pretty damn bad too.

Only the coaches can tell if this was a valuable practice and recruiting event. But as a football spectacle / pep rally it was a failure, or at least very suboptimal. You do not seem to allow that there is value in a football spectacle / pep rally, at least no value that could ever trump a countable hour. It appears that you would have good company in your opinion within Schembechler Hall. I disagree, and not because of any personal feelings about Hoke or DB.

For all his other failings, RR was (and is) in many ways a much more fan friendly coach than Carr or Hoke. And while I care more about the on field product than PR, I don't think "great team" and "fan service" are as mutually exclusive as many of the Fort Schembechler diehards seem to.

stephenrjking

April 8th, 2014 at 3:34 PM ^

The offensive line should have been identified as a serious program threat when it couldn't block effectively in 2012. For whatever reason, Hoke decided that the inability of a future NFL LT and a cadre of senior linemen to block effectively was an issue that could be solved with more time doing the same thing. Maybe he really thought (as many of us did) that they were just players who weren't great or had hit a ceiling, and that his star recruits would make things better. But whatever the reason, we are about to enter a third season with a smoking crater of a position group that is vital to the stated philosophy of the head coach. The improvement had better come and it had better come fast, because right now the fan base is pretty down on the program and another season of underachievement and rivalry losses will result in open fan revolt. The point is, Hoke took too long to see the problem. It was obvious to even casual fans last season; he is paid seven figures to see it earlier than that. I don't care if this is now a two year project--if this season is bad, Hoke is responsible and needs to be held accountable. And I'm not a hot-headed sort of guy about coaching changes, normally. I know I'm not unique in my feelings about this.

LordGrantham

April 8th, 2014 at 3:52 PM ^

Well said.  It's mind-boggling that the one position group that absolutely must be sucessful for Hoke's philosophy to work has been historically bad under his tenure.  There is not one lineman that has developed since he arrived.  If anything, some guys seem to have gotten worse.

mGrowOld

April 8th, 2014 at 4:29 PM ^

What makes you so sure he "sees" the problem now?  That's been my #1 complaint with Hoke for a while now - things that seem brutally obvious to me (like the inability of his old OC to actually adjust to the game being played in front of him) seem to escape his attention.  Funk is still employed and from the sounds of things the OL disaster from last year is about to be repeated.

God help us all.

 

stephenrjking

April 8th, 2014 at 5:41 PM ^

I'm sure he sees the problem because of what actually happened last year, because they fired Al Borges, and because I'm pretty sure that anyone who has been coaching for any length of time (much less decades, as Hoke has) knows a whole lot more about football that fans who gripe about coaches.

We've disagreed about this issue before, but a couple of rebuttals:

1. In the past you have based a lot of what you feel about Hoke on what you have heard him say (or, more frequently, not say) in comparison to what you want to hear regarding what is happening. But this is a poor basis for analyzing what is actually going on behind closed doors, particularly with someone like Hoke who absolutely will not expose "family business" in public if he can help it. Even to his extreme detriment, as in the "family matter" case.

Lloyd was the same way. He would never publically identify issues, playcalls, or areas of responsibility, even though he obviously knew what was going on behind the scenes. Recall his famous "I did" claim of responsibility for the John Navarre waggle play at MSU that almost blew a sure win, a call everyone knew he didn't make.

Hoke talks in platitudes and he speaks vaguely about what's happening. We don't necessarily like it, and in times of team struggle it can be frustrating, and it's far from informative, but it doesn't mean he doesn't actually know what's happening. In this regime the action happens out of our earshot. Nobody actually thinks the decision to fire Borges and hire Nussmeier happened in one day, do they? Of course not. 

2. The actual activity on and off the field last season demonstrated rather clearly that the staff knew there were problems. Almost from the beginning of the season they were scrambling to adapt to on-field challenges.

As a result, we got tackle-over formations (a naked attempt to combine the efforts of Michigan's best linemen in one spot to get some sort of push) and Devin Funchess moved to wide receiver (which nobody ever mentions when they gripe about the staff not adapting to its personnel or adapting to what is going on, when clearly they did and it was a huge boon to the team) and new players and old ones at new positions and brand new gameplans every week. 

So they obviously recognized the problems. They tried dozens of different tools to rectify them. None of them worked.

And to say that Borges did not adapt to what he saw on the field is to seriously misidentify the problem. Yes, occasionally he ran a play too frequently, but he was often left in that position not because he didn't see what was going on but because the failure of the offense to execute left him in a position where he had no good options.

It is that failure to execute the base stuff that is where Borges properly receives a large share of the blame, enough to result in his firing; there was simply too much going on, and the team never got good at basic stuff. He installed new stuff every week, but it was often rendered ineffective by the complete failure of the line in both running and pass protection. And I believe (and obviously Hoke did too, because Borges is gone) that Al's style of coaching and gameplanning was a significant reason why. 

When Michigan ran too much against Penn State, people said, "Pass." But Gardner was a serious interception liability, especially early. When he was throwing picks, people were saying "run," but Michigan couldn't run. So people said "throw short," but Gardner would still throw picks short. So people said "throw long," but Gallon was doubled and nobody else could catch it. 

It is quite possible that all of these problems can be traced, at least partly, to the coaching and teaching of Borges. Gardner did improve over the season, but he also became less confident, and I believe his early struggles may have been due to a combination of inadequate personal coaching and excess gameplanning that reduced the number of reps he got at basic stuff. Many currently believe that a large part of the line's struggles are due to lack of reps and an excessive number of schemes to learn. (I still worry that Funk is part of the issue myself, but we now have what we have and we'll see what happens). That all comes from how Borges organized his offense.

It's not that Borges was a bad chess player. It's that he was a good chess player, but that he was playing without any of the best pieces--because he himself had taken them off the board.

Anyway, I think I can safely say that Hoke understands there are issues. I question whether he truly understand how serious they were early enough, and I question whether or not he is the man to fix them, but he knows they are there. 

JTrain

April 8th, 2014 at 6:51 PM ^

The thing is (I know this is getting old), if he gets fired this year ALMOST anyone they hire next year will walk into a more optimal situation based on experience alone. I think, unless some huge coaching upgrade is available, u have to give him another year (2015). If he can't do it in '15....HE GONE.
(The excuse in 2015 if we don't do well almost certainly will be "new QB").

Pit2047

April 8th, 2014 at 7:24 PM ^

Is a legit excuse because everyone else comes back.  We lose no OL(unless Lindsay comes here), no WR(unless Funchess leaves early), no TE, and no RB(unless Hayes transfers). Plus we won't lose a ton on defense with the only position being in question is maybe WDE. If Michigan doesn't do big things in 2015 Home has got to go.

JTrain

April 8th, 2014 at 8:25 PM ^

Not saying it's a legit excuse....just one of the many "perfect storm" of excuses (transition year with denard to pro style, pro style failure to launch, back to denard ball, denard hurt, lack of oline development, acl injuries, yada, yada , yada).

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stephenrjking

April 8th, 2014 at 8:49 PM ^

Winners win. Losers make excuses. At this point the "excuses" are entirely problems that have occurred on Hoke's watch, while he has been blessed with unique talents at QB (Denard, Devin) that have hidden many of the offensive flaws.

You know what program has as many excuses as any in the country? Try this: Coaching transition. Talent deficiencies. Huuuuuge question marks at QB. Fan revolt. Ultra-competitive conference. Awful, awful losing season.

I've just described the 2013 Auburn Tigers.

stephenrjking

April 8th, 2014 at 7:25 PM ^

Can't. These decisions aren't made in a vacuum. A mediocre season this year (let's say, 8-4 with two of the losses being to MSU and OSU, no B1G title game berth, bowl obviously minor) without real signs of promise will cause recruits to flee the program and fans to combust.

This has already started to happen--note the awful conclusion to recruiting this season, as committed recruits fled like Ann Arbor had contracted smallpox, likely hit recruits chose other schools (and nobody could honestly fault them for it), and fans grew actively uneasy.

At some point the fan expectation is that Michigan should move past moral victories and into real ones. And failure to do so could actually endanger the programs prospects going forward, as lost confidence from recruits, diminished prestige, and a demographically challenging situation in the old rust belt have the potential to squeeze a momentum-less Michigan program into a relatively permanent, frustrated second tier.

There is a real possibility of ticket sales issues even this year. If the team does not perform, it could turn catastrophic next season. Brandon may be too revenue-stream focused, but that focus will result in firings if things go south this year.

The fact is, Hoke has had time. There may be "more time needed," but if so that is only because he squandered time earlier when OL problems first cropped up.

mGrowOld

April 8th, 2014 at 10:45 PM ^

Stephen....

First of all I really, really like your posts.  Even when you're disagreeing with me I like them.  I've actually been thinking since you posted this why exactly I'm so unhappy with the team and while I cant quite put my finger the specific reasons I can tell you I dont have much confidence at this point with Hoke's ability to fix things.

In your rebuttal you mention the Borges firing but candidly I'm not so sure that was Hoke's doing as much as Brandon's.  And the fact that he is making Nuss work with the balance of the offensive staff sure feels a lot like when RR hired Robinson but made him work with the staff that RR selected.  And look at how well Robinson did at Texas this year when he was allowed to call the game he wanted to call and not the one the HC rammed down his throat.  Do I think Nuss is an upgrade over Borges?  Without question but that upgrade will be neutered fast if Hoke is dictating the offense in any way just like the defense was under Rich.

If you go back and look you'll see I was just as vocal call for Funk's firing as I was Borges.  The only reason I gave him somewhat of a pass was due to the family issues he was dealing with that undoubtably took a toll.  But make no mistake - as bad as Borges did IMO, Funk was worse and our record last year reflected that.

As you eloquently stated - this is a make or break year for Hoke.  Another 8-5 or 7-6 year and the fans WILL revolt en masse and I fear yet another regime change will be forthcoming.  And that scares the hell out of me.

Hannibal.

April 8th, 2014 at 4:46 PM ^

What exactly is the philosophy of the head coach?  Have we seen any evidence of that philosophy?  I thought that I knew the answer to that question a few years ago, but I don't anymore.  I can't figure out if this guy has any philosophy, or if he is just a recruiter/motivator/cheerleader/figurehead who spouts lines about "toughness" because it sounds good.  Over the past few years, I can't see any evidence of a guiding philosophy, especially one that involves tons of smashmouth power football.  His one great year at Ball State was because of a star QB, and he succeeded with a pass heavy offense in his second year at San Diego State.  Not only has Hoke not established a power running game at Michgian, he didn't do it at Ball State or San Diego State either. 

stephenrjking

April 8th, 2014 at 5:15 PM ^

The philosophy is to be tough on defense and to have a tough, physical running game. This is Michigan. We play MANBALL. etc.

The reason you haven't seen it isn't because that hasn't been what he has wanted to produce; the reason you haven't seen it is because the staff has not executed the plan. The plan was to recruit and develop a powerful offensive line that could open parking lot-sized holes for running backs, whose yardage gain would provide a launch point for the rest of the offense to function. 

Since Hoke has come aboard, Michigan has persisently tried to run the football from under center, and to run waggle play action from under center as well. Neither has worked at all. To keep thumping the ball into the line like that would be ludicrous--the few times they kept trying to do that (remember Penn State?) the effects were disastrous. So, by necessity, the gameplan had to be changed.

The problem isn't that there is no "guiding philosophy," it's that they have had to abandon it and use concepts ill-suited to what they want to be. It's there, in the gameplan and in the recruiting (the classes have been legitimately good, with OL recruits that are supposed to turn into bulldozers and big, powerful running backs and gun-armed quarterbacks that stay in the pocket) and in the staff he put together and in the way they coached the players. And when they got into the meat of the season and none of that stuff was close to working, they had to completely rewire it. 

It's like blowing a motor on a Corvette and dropping in a newish Cobalt engine--you might get it to run, but it won't run well.

Hannibal.

April 9th, 2014 at 9:18 AM ^

See -- I used to think this, but even last year -- they started off the CMU game in the shotgun and ran finesse almost the entire day.  Then they did the same thing against Notre Dame if I remember right.  Everyone was fantasizing about how awesome it was going to be to watch Kalis pull around and flatten a guy next to Lewan, and I don't even remember us trying it that much for the first few games.  A lot of people expected that with Denard, Barnum, Omameh, and Mealer gone, the look of the offense would change immediately to the one that Hoke really wanted.  It sorta didn't.  And as Brian irritatedly pointed out, we did stuff like run more stretch plays and we added some other stuff like the speed option. 

If you are right, then it has me wondering why Hoke bothered to bring Borges with him in the first place.  Borges has always been a finesse guy.  He was both a poor fit for the personnel available and a poor fit to run what Hoke supposedly wants.  An all around terrible hire.  And Hoke has only succeeded with finesse offenses in his 12 year career.  His next smashmouth offense will be his first.  This striking difference between what Hoke says publicly and what his teams have done on the field (both at Michigan and before) originally had me thinking that it was cagey gamesmanship on Hoke's part.  Now, it has got me wrestling with a possibility that I really don't like -- that Hoke is just plain stupid and/or grossly incompetent. 

Space Coyote

April 9th, 2014 at 9:52 AM ^

I feel like these sorts of comments are just plain stupid and/or grossly incompetent.

Hoke didn't get to where he is because he doesn't understand the basics of football. He knew what Borges was, he knew what his previous OCs were, and he knows what Nuss is. Hoke wanted an offense that was based off a power run game, which, fine. He was willing to deviate from that in order to get some success. After hiring Nuss it's clear that he isn't even that attached to "power" (if that wasn't evident already), he just wants to be able to control the line of scrimmage. None of what Hoke has said or believes means the whole scheme needs to be power football. That doesn't mean he wants a OC that calls run plays 70% of the time and doesn't understand advanced passing concepts. You can run the things any OC runs and essentially still be "tough" and "control the LOS", the fact that Borges's teams didn't is likely a big reason why he is no longer here. He isn't gone because he knew passing concepts and didn't run power enough.

Hoke speaks in platitudes to the media. He speaks in coach speak to the media. He feeds the media and fans nothing more than what they need to hear and he speaks in generalizations that give you nothing more than a mentality that they want to go by. Hoke wants to be tough on the line of scrimmage. He wanted to change the culture to be tough. As much as you want to think that he's just plain stupid and doesn't get it to fit your script, acting like someone who is now the head coach of a major football team doesn't understand the very basics of his position and his sport is stupid. I don't understand how so many fans actually believe that these guys in these positions are so grossly incompetent to the point that what they say to the media is the pinnacle of their knowledge and the epitome and entirety of everything they stand for.

Either posts like these are complete hyperbole, or they are ignorant, it's as simple as that. Hoke may or may not be the right person for this job. I understand there are people that get jobs that are vastly underqualified. But what you're suggesting is that Hoke isn't competent enough to be a high school coach and that a good portion of this board is essentially smarter at football than he is.

CompleteLunacy

April 9th, 2014 at 11:09 AM ^

This needed to be said. I am so fucking sick of everyone calling Hoke "stupid" and saying that he's "Brandon's puppet".

The irony here is so many people were ANGER when that one OSU assisstant insinuated that Hoke was a dumb child with a joke...but so many people here are doing the exact same thing every time they call him stupid.

Hoke may be in over his head. But man, so many of you have already practically given up on him, to the point where NOTHING he does this year will be enough to meet your unrealistic expectations. You know who else failed with unrealistic expectations? Rich Rod.

I'm not saying Hoke is the answer. I have no idea. I hope he is, because I like him and think he's a good fit for Michigan. But he clearly has some worrying trends from the last year...this year will be telling for a program trajectory. It has to reverse trend, for sure. It's quite the task for a team with an oline that looks worse on paper than even last year.

But for the love of God. Relax. It's just the SPRING GAME.  I cant stand all the goddamn negativity around here sometimes.

gbdub

April 9th, 2014 at 11:14 AM ^

I don't think many (some, but not that many) people are honestly arguing that Hoke couldn't coach high school or that they could literally jump in and do a better job. But while it's inconceivable that Hoke is stupid and incompetent compared to the average football fan, it's entirely plausible that he's "stupid and incompetent" relative to the average FBS AQ coach (and I think that's what is usually meant).

I'm not saying I assert this position, merely that it is possible, and it's certainly possible for a fan to perceive "we are bad in ways that teams with better coaches seem not to be" without actually understanding the nuts and bolts of football as well as Hoke.

Also, it's naive to assume football coaching is a meritocracy. It's definitely an old boys club full of nepotism, superstition, and politics. Sometimes people end up in charge.

So while it's dumb to say "Gah, my grandma could coach better than Hoke!", it's also naive and innaccurate, just in a different way, to say "trust the coaches always, they always know what they are doing and you are too dumb and inexperienced to ever catch them in a mistake". And every time someone says the order someone swoops in to deliver the latter.

Pit2047

April 8th, 2014 at 7:04 PM ^

Were that Borges is an idiot and we didn't have a center.  Borges ran a man blocking scheme with a line that was clearly much more comfortable with zone.  If you see a guard like Omameh who can't pull to save his life but can zone block with the best of them you run zone.  Also we couldn't make line calls to save our lives so we couldn't make the complicated adjustments that man blocking schemes require.  That falls on the center, which was supposed to be Rocko Khoury(didn't come back for 5th year) or Christian Pace(medicaled) but after they left all that was left was Jack Miller and air so Elliot Mealer, a guard who had probably never played much center in his life, got stuck with the job after Ricky Barnum could learn to snap.  This is probably why we see so much cross postion repping so that crap like this never happens again.

Brimley

April 8th, 2014 at 10:22 PM ^

Go back and read this: http://mgoblog.com/content/preview-2011-offensive-line

Brian states that "the depth bomb hits next year (2012) as KHOURY (my emphasis) and Schofield get pulled into starting leaving just Mealer and a horde of freshman behind the starters, including zero (0) backup tackles who won't be going to prom in a few months." Hoke stated when he was hired that o-line recruiting was a high priority as we were WAY below need in that area; his 2012 o-line recruiting was excellent, 2013 better (Ace in 2013 signing day wrap: "Michigan continues to fill in the holes left by some disastrous offensive line recruiting by Rich Rodriguez."). That's one year ago. O-line was a smoking crater, Hoke knew it and addressed it. Obviously you're thinking that the staff should have developed the kids quicker, but, really, look what he had to start with. This wasn't just a crater; it was the hole left by a mass extinction asteroid. We can argue player development (which is pretty subjective), but to state that Hoke somehow didn't notice that o-line was an issue until just this year is in NO WAY supported by fact. If we're going to beat the Fire Hoke drum, we can't use "How could he miss the o-line issue?" as the rhythm.

Mr. Yost

April 8th, 2014 at 3:34 PM ^

His INT was his WR's fault, Morris' was his own. Morris was hardly better.

Again. NO ONE is comparing the two except Brian and Coach Hoke.

And why does Gardner get an excuse on literally EVERY single thing he does? It's the OL fault. It's his WR fault. It's never Devin's fault.

Brian saw that ND game last year and the Ohio game and that IS Devin Gardner, anything else, anything bad...that is someone else in Devin's body or that's the fault of someone else around Devin.

Come ON. Give it a rest. Fact. He's NOT a great QB, he can play that way at times, but he can play awful at times too. That is what we have right now. That's not saying he's going to always be this will decribe his play next season...but up until today, THAT is Devin Gardner.

The excuses and obsession with the Hokespeak of a QB competition is out of control.

The justification of Gardner playing bad that he was in a boot for months and just now got out on the field and started working with a brand new OC is WAAAAY better than "it's the other guys fault and oh by the way...he's better than the guy everyone is comparing him to, without question, so stop talking about it, wait I'm the only one talking about it?"

Is it even possible to bring Gardner up without bringing up Morris? I think so. But then again, I also think that he's wildly inconsistent and his play thus far is average once you take all the good and all the bad. But that's just me.

Monocle Smile

April 8th, 2014 at 3:46 PM ^

I don't like most of what you post, but this is especially terrible. What's wrong with you? Last season, even after OSU, there was a very vocal band of users making all sorts of "BENCH GARDNER" noise, some of which tiptoed the banhammer line, IMO.

And then some crap news articles with "QB Controversy" in the headlines get published just a couple of months ago. Do you really expect that to go un-fisked?

Finally, shut up. There's no "love affair" with Gardner. He had a fantastic statistical season in 2013 even with a tire fire of an offensive line. You are EXACTLY the kind of person highlighted in the comments who think the best QB is on the bench.

 

And why does Gardner get an excuse on literally EVERY single thing he does? It's the OL fault. It's his WR fault. It's never Devin's fault.
I don't know how any sane person, let alone someone like you who's always on this blog, can say something so utterly stupid. I mean, this is just making shit up at this point.

ontarioblue

April 8th, 2014 at 3:52 PM ^

With this Oline, Morris and Speight get killed.  Bellomy will be the next Kennedy and play mop up if he ever touches the field in game play again.  That leaves Gardner.  He may not be the best passer on the team, but he sure as hell is the only QB that we have that has any potential of making plays with his legs and has the ability to hide a lot of the faults of the Oline with this.  Until the Oline is fixed, it is Gardner or bust, whether we like it or not.

UMich87

April 8th, 2014 at 3:41 PM ^

attending in person but for the potential consumers watching the B1G broadcast. 

I would love to attend a football practice yet, for some reason, I couldn't muster the energy to drive 20 minutes to watch this one.  And I skipped it on TV, too.  Still, I expect I will attend every game this year despite The Worst Home Schedule Ever.