Spring Stuff 2017: Defense and Special Teams Comment Count

Brian

Defensive line

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Hello [Bryan Fuller]

Welp, the backup DTs are a problem. The mere presence of Ron Johnson, who arrived last year as a 245-pound weakside end, on the interior is indication enough. Johnson was bad because it is not possible for a person to go from 245 pounds to a plausible DT in a year. I assume that dalliance will end the moment Michigan's fleet of incoming DTs arrives.

It was slightly more disappointing that neither Carl Myers nor Lawrence Marshall showed much. Myers is a walk-on but hey maybe he was a spiritual Glasgow; that looks really doubtful. A Higdon TD run was largely on Myers getting buried by single blocking. (Spanellis, for what it's worth.) Meanwhile Marshall's added weight and added weight and gone from WDE to SDE to 3T and usually your second position switch is when it starts getting late early. It's late early for him.

Aubrey Solomon is going to walk right onto the two deep, and thank God for that recruiting heist. Mike Dwumfour is going to get playing time by default so let's hope some of that positive chatter is good, and then it would be very nice if another freshman—probably James Hudson—was ready to eat some snaps.

The starters are more or less established and performed as you'd expect. Pass blocking was a major issue not just because of Devin Bush, but these gentlemen. We know what Maurice Hurst looks like as a player. We've got a good idea about Chase Winovich—though he's looking much more DE-sized than a year ago—and Rashan Gary is a given. He stunted inside once on a play that should have caught Michigan's D dead to rights, with Kugler pulling right to him. Gary blew through him to tackle for minimal gain. Dude is scary.

Bryan Mone looked healthy and effective on the snaps he got, so hooray for that. He shed Bredeson a couple times, albeit after giving up some yardage. He is likely to be a downgrade from Ryan Glasgow but with the guys around him he just has to be good for the line to be excellent.

Now encase them in carbonite until fall.

Carlo Kemp looked okay; Rueben Jones didn't show much; Donovan Jeter looks like a guy who will eventually be a DT/3T swing guy a la Wormley.

Linebacker

Mike McCray did not get a starter hook and had significant playing time in which he looked like Mike McCray.

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sidewinder has missile lock [Eric Upchurch]

We got extended looks at couple non-starters guys, most prominently Devin Bush. Bush looks like he's benefited a ton from a year of S&C; this has amped up his blitzing, and Don Brown took full advantage. His timing and burst got him through the line frequently, and he is a major problem for RB pickups. He's short, so he's hard to get under. He's thick, so he's got a lot of momentum. He's fast, so also momentum that's how momentum works. The result was a number of blitz pickups that looked good for a moment before falling apart.

Bush's recruiting profile is (for the moment) prophetic:

if you ever thought to yourself "I wonder what Don Brown would have done with James Ross," Bush will answer that question for you.

Hurl him pell-mell over the line of scrimmage to good effect, it seems.

In that context the talk about Mike Wroblewski is probably a positive instead of an indication Michigan has a desperate lack of depth. (See Moundros, Mark.) He looks the part of the heady gritty grit gym rat, but more importantly he plays like it. I can't tell you how many times I've seen linebackers fail to understand what the line slant in front of their face means; here Wroblewski knows that the Gary slant means the ball is likely coming to the gap outside of him, and he fills with aplomb:

It's a simple thing; again I cannot tell you how many times I've shaken a fist to the heavens because a linebacker does not understand the implication of the line call.

Wroblewski's prominence isn't great news for the other inside linebackers currently on the roster. (This exempts Noah Furbush and Josh Uche, who are at SAM.) I don't know what number Jared Wangler is even after my annual "who the hell is that /googles roster" spring game outing. Elysee Mbem-Bosse is 52, and I mostly know that because he got edged on the early Isaac touchdown run.

I assume from the way Don Brown talks that these are the things Robocop does not do. Again, simple thing where you've got to know that you get outside your blocker and funnel back to help, and a thing I've seen not executed time and again. By long-term starters.

I did catch a couple plays I liked from Devin Gil, so he may be an exception.

Meanwhile, Furbush and Uche... I don't know what Michigan's going to do with them. Furbush had one impressive Jake-Ryan-like play on a crack sweep where he blasted through a block to pick off another blocker, but I'm not sure how he fits in Don Brown's defense. We've heard some things about how Uche is going to get some run as a pass rush specialist.

Cornerback

Not a lot of action for David Long or Levert Hill, which is probably a sign they're solid leaders at cornerback. (Or dinged up. Long was out on some kickoffs, FWIW.) Between the two of them they combined for one tackle; when they were out there they were barely targeted.

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Washington is now in the conversation [Eric Upchurch]

Amongst folks who played a bunch Keith Washington stood out. I was watching him during a brief period where he was matched up on Donovan Peoples-Jones. He had good coverage on an incompletion, made a tackle after a drag route for two yards, and generally looked in DPJ's league. He added an impressive downfield pass breakup and a couple of "who is that?!" edge tackles when Michigan tried to run it to his side of the field. He was credited for half a TFL on one of those. This one is impressive awareness; I've seen a lot of cornerbacks fail to fall off their WR this quickly and give up ten yards on the edge:

Spring caveats apply. Two years ago Brandon Watson had a press-heavy spring game that featured a couple of impressive PBUs on Moe Ways; since then he's faded to an occasionally-used nickel who usually tackles after a slant is completed on him. His pick six in this game was a very bad decision by Peters he took advantage of; it wasn't paired with other plays that might have moved the needle for him as he tries to battle his way up the depth chart.

Both early-enrolled freshmen looked like they could use some seasoning. Benjamin St-Juste was repeatedly victimized by Tarik Black on quick fades during the John O'Korn-led comeback section of the game. I kind of hated one of the PI calls on him but this is because I am adamantly opposed to underthrow-caused pass interference and cannot be trusted in these matters.

Meanwhile Ambry Thomas looked like a freshman in the way DPJ and Black did not. He's lankier than I expected—"high cut" is the jargon term I believe—and looked spindly. Problematically so. Kareem Walker's impressive touchdown featured Thomas being fended off with ease.

If Washington has made a move like it seems Michigan can afford to redshirt one or both.

Safety

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here comes the BOOM like it or not now that song is stuck in your head [Barron]

I said in the spring game preview I didn't want Khaleke Hudson to end someone but if there was a walk-on or band member or random civilian who would volunteer to get in a car crash they would be remembered. John O'Korn is none of those; he will be remembered nonetheless.

Hudson also picked up a PBU and a sack in his time on the field and looked sufficiently Peppers-esque for this site's honor and prognostication cred to remain intact for the time being. The emergence of a couple legit safety options and the Khaleke-Hudson-shaped spot in a Don Brown defense means Hudson's found his spot, and I'm eager to see how that works out. Good start.

Those legit safety options are Josh Metellus and Jordan Glasgow, both of whom showed well. Both guys got over the top of sideline fade routes to get or assist on PBUs. Glasgow stepped in front of a Speight pass for a 101-yard pick six. Less spectacularly but probably more importantly, both guys tackled with authority when called upon to do so. There was one particular open-field Glasgow tackle that was Kovacsian in its textbook solidity. Assumed starter Tyree Kinnel got his share of action as well, leading all players with seven tackles.

The coverage bust on the Gentry touchdown couldn't be traced back to any of those guys since they weren't in the area or on the field, and something Ace mentioned on the podcast was clearest with these guys: there was way less pointing and confusion as Michigan enters year two under Brown. Like the offensive line, these are a bunch of new starters who could be expected to dorf a number of plays. This happened rarely, if at all.

Assertion: no position group put in a more reassuring performance than the safeties. Michigan clearly thinks they have a hidden gem in Metellus and Glasgow turns out to be a Glasgow, so Hudson can slide down, and Kinnel is there to quarterback the whole secondary. This position group looks set to reload, not rebuild.

Special teams

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Houston, we have liftoff [Barron]

It's night and day from two years ago at this time, when people were openly petrified of the kicking situation. Kenny Allen eventually locked that down for two years, and now that he's gone Michigan looks... fine? Very good, even? Kyle Seychel, Ryan Tice, and Quinn Nordin all popped in to blast some kickoffs and groove field goals down the middle. Nordin's 48-yarder was a highlight because it almost cleared the net; I've heard people say that would have been good from 60 and I think this radically undersells what a bomb it was. Look at this thing!

That is a 48 yard field goal that goes over the goalposts. Tailwind or no that is spectacular.

Small sample sizes, of course. One good thing that we haven't heard coming out of the practice rumbles: kicker concern. Maybe they'll be fine. (Maybe they will suffer #collegekickers.)

Punter Will Hart looked okay, averaging 40 yards a kick on 8 punts. He seemed to have excellent hang time and could have gotten some more distance but angled a couple to the sideline. My main concern with him was that it seemed to take a while for him to get the ball off. There were two or three punts on which the crowd went "oooh" because the defense almost returned one to sender.

OTOH, if that could be more about Michigan being consistently good at getting to punts now that would be real nice. Michigan had impact block units last year for the first time I can remember. Maybe they downloaded Jon Baxter's brain into Partridge during the one year he was here.

Returns are an open question and something of a concern after two muffs, one on a punt, one on a field goal. I have a feeling we might come to fully appreciate Peppers's ability to cleanly field all manner of junk fired in his direction when his successor is not Jabrill Peppers. Kickoffs should be fine; they've got enough athletes now that they can just put a DPJ or, heck, Keith Washington back there. Punts are much trickier and disaster-prone. FWIW, Oliver Martin arrives in fall with a reputation for being something of a punt-fielding maestro.

Comments

Mich1993

April 18th, 2017 at 9:23 PM ^

I think Dwumfour, Solomon and Hudson with a sprinkling of Gary will be fine if noone gets hurt.  I wouldn't be happy expecting these guys to start, but this is our biggest worry I will sleep soundly.

If we were desparate, I also wouldn't mind seeing Onwenu play a few snaps of D on the odd long drive.  Wouldn't make sense except when the D was tired because the offense hadn't been on the field much.  Unusual, but Harbaugh just might do it.  

Squash34

April 18th, 2017 at 9:16 PM ^

Watching the film that emerged from his high school scrimmage where he got in the back field so fast he almost tackled the QB before he handed the ball to the QB, then suplexed the RB, and thought no way there is a better dt in the country than him. He will be have an instant impact like the kid from Houston, who have similar body types.

The Dean

April 19th, 2017 at 2:29 PM ^

Backup D-line doesn't have to be "good", they have to be serviceable (think Matt Godin). They only play 20ish snaps per game. Freshmen are more than capable of that role (e.g., Gary last year). Now, if Mone or Hurst goes down (especially Mone), Michigan is in trouble. We saw this in the 2015 OSU game when Mone and Glasgow were out. Michigan never had a chance, but few teams would in that scenario. Here's hoping Solomon is Ed Oliver, but I've played and watched a lot of college football and have never seen a freshman DT be the best player on the field. 

MDubs

April 18th, 2017 at 3:41 PM ^

Honestly, these writeups about the spring game have me feeling more confident.  In past years its seemed we always have a problem area.  Everyone was expecting it to be oline this year.  But all I'm hearing right now is cautious optimism.  I am feeling really good about next year.  

WoodleyIsBeast

April 18th, 2017 at 3:44 PM ^

Great write-up overall, but I don't agree with your statement that Reuben Jones didn't show much.  My friends and I noted him a few times on Saturday as someone that was quite disruptive.  

I'm not saying he is Rashan, but he did show up on my radar, whereas I didn't think that would be the case prior to Saturday.  Jones was a pleasant surprise.

stephenrjking

April 18th, 2017 at 3:49 PM ^

If it's true that the DBs really are solidifying, that's terrific news, given that they were the #1 concern on this side of the football coming out of the 2016 season.

DL depth is kinda terrifying if you ask me. It's always, to me, a big ask to just assume that a freshman who comes onto campus six weeks before the first game will be ready to take meaningful snaps right away, in any position. Good thing we got Hurst back. Injuries would be a disaster here.

 

Maizen

April 18th, 2017 at 8:37 PM ^

Unfortunately this is the year Hoke's poor 2014 and 2015 recruiting classes finally catch up to Michigan. Not much Harbaugh can do about it because UM doesn't take JUCO's. This is why I'm always a proponent of taking as many OL/DL as you can each recruiting class. I think Kemp and Solomon can be solid backups, but everyone else that gets PT behind the starters is going to struggle I feel. Fingers crossed everyone can stay healthy.

DualThreat

April 18th, 2017 at 3:56 PM ^

I never want to see us attempt to block a punt again.  Not after the last couple years of running into/roughing the kicker garbage.

It just doesn't seem worth it anymore.

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OrlandoMFan

April 18th, 2017 at 4:21 PM ^

Didn't we block 6 or 7 punts/kicks last season? Several of those were game changing. We might not beat Colorado last year without that blocked punt. I say stay agressive. 

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Monocle Smile

April 18th, 2017 at 4:44 PM ^

A couple of those calls were either dogshit or should be dogshit. The rules need to change with the prevalence of rollout rugby punts. There's no way the defense can be expected to just hang out and let a punter roll out and dash forward a bit before punting.

Jim Harbaugh's…

April 18th, 2017 at 4:10 PM ^

Don Brown said in the postgame presser that Hill has missed a lot of time in the spring and he was happy to have him back getting reps. Wonder if he's still hampered and how that affected their rotation.

Presser video (comments on Hill @ 0:13):

alum96

April 18th, 2017 at 4:15 PM ^

Not much attention to punting game but we had A+ punting and A punt returns last year.  While Jabrill didn't quite have those explosive returns of a Will Likely type he fielded NEARLY everything and didn't allow those extra 10-12 yards of bouncing balls (teehee). 

So I agree on this area which is not going to be much discussed as we focus on the other 22 positions.  Could be a hidden 30-40 yds a game lost this year in our punting game vs last year.

Kevin13

April 18th, 2017 at 5:20 PM ^

I will be happy if we just put someone back there who can fair catch the ball and not drop it. Don't allow it to hit and roll extra yards, but not concerned about tyrying to return it either. Just make the catch and get the offense on the field.

I was less impressed with Hart punting the ball. He did take a long time to get the ball off and a couple of times walked towards the snap catching and kicking closer to the LOS which will make it easier to block. Hard to believe he averaged 40 yards a punt, it didn't seem like he was getting much distance while watching the game.  I hope he can improve by fall or hopefully we don't have to punt.

OwenGoBlue

April 18th, 2017 at 4:23 PM ^

I think we'll learn a lot about how Don Brown will run his D at Michigan this year. From interviews and BC film it seems like he's more of a diverse personnel package guy than we've seen yet due to the rarity of Pep's skill set/deployment. Even at BC he was to a degree limited by the number of quality athletes at each level, thus keeping the Viper guy on the field at all times. After a few years of Harbaugh recruiting he has great athletes of all shapes, sizes and skillsets. Should be fascinating to see and I'll be watching guys like Uche, Furbush and Glasgow to see how he plays things.

S.G. Rice

April 18th, 2017 at 4:29 PM ^

Download ALL of the punt-fielding maestros plzkthx

 

Hard to believe punts averages 40 yards based on a casual watch, not only did it seem like they took forever to get away, they didn't seem long even downwind. 

Elmer

April 18th, 2017 at 4:30 PM ^

I really like Keith Washington's high school tape.  He showed great athleticism at QB.  Also seems like a quality kid.  I really hope he finds some playing time on defense this year.

PhillipFulmersPants

April 18th, 2017 at 11:16 PM ^

He made some nice plays on DPJ but on the one shallow crossing route, it felt like DPJ was just kind of going 70% and Washington easily kept up with him and made an easy tackle when the ball arrived.  I wonder if DPJ could get away with that kind of thing in HS -- turn on the jets and break away from a trailing defender when he needed to.    Could be wrong and someone more informed than I am may have some thoughts, but seems like Peoples-Jones needed to use his speed to seperate much earlier on that route.  Almost was like he was running his route as if he thought D was in zone. 

Anyway I hope Keith continues to play well and pushes for minutes.  Good to have lots of options and depth

JeepinBen

April 18th, 2017 at 4:52 PM ^

Think we'll just slide Gary inside relatively frequently?

Winovich - Gary - Hurst - edge rusher X sounds pretty tantalizing for passing situations

plamonge

April 18th, 2017 at 4:58 PM ^

Ace's comment that "there was way less pointing and confusion as Michigan enters year two under Brown" is a revelation. I didn't notice that because it all seemed so regular-season normal on defense and on offense--even with guys who don't play a ton and freshmen. In other words, it was not a train wreck, which is notable by its absence. 

Sopwith

April 18th, 2017 at 5:00 PM ^

In that context the talk about Mike Wroblewski is probably a positive instead of an indication Michigan has a desperate lack of depth. (See Moundros, Mark.) He looks the part of the heady gritty grit gym rat

Forgot to add

"blue collar"

"brings his lunch pail to work"

"loves the game"

"YMRMFSPA Drew Dileo, Jordan Kovacs, Wes Welker"