Spring Stuff, 2015: Offense Comment Count

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The Michigan offense in one picture [Patrick Barron]

Rome was not rebuilt from atomized dust in a day. It was not good, obviously. People will tell you that the defense is supposed to be in front of the offense at this juncture… but not that far in front. When they say that they mean something like "it was a little ugly and they only ran for like three yards a carry." They mean that the final score was 17-10 or thereabouts.

They do not mean that the only offense of the day will be Amara Darboh catching fades against Poor Damn Dennis Norfleet, a 5'7" guy who hadn't played defense in college until being tested there this spring. The overall feel was reminiscent of the legendarily terrible 2008 spring game, which I didn't even go to because it was held at a high school to facilitate Michigan Stadium's renovations and still remember as the first "oh shiiiii" moment in the Rodriguez era.

To some extent this was all expected. Michigan fans have been debating between a true freshman, a guy who had 3.2 YPA last year, and a redshirt freshman who did not play. They were going up against a defense that has been pretty good the last couple years (until collapsing in exhaustion at the end of games). It was never going to be pretty.

But did it have to be that ugly? Bler!

Quarterbacks: come on down Joliet Jake. Morris was anointed the #1 QB coming out of spring by none other than Harbaugh himself, and that seemed about right after the spring game. That it did so after Morris went 11 of 24 for 5.6 YPA would have me purchasing bags of dehydrated food, water purifiers, and shotguns if not for the 99% official transfer of Iowa starter Jake Rudock to Michigan. Rudock may not be a conquering hero… but he will probably feel like one.

Malzone, the great (if vague) hope going into spring, did not look ready to challenge for the throne. I'm not on board with the arm strength complaints just yet, as those seemed to be generated by a wide receiver screen Lewis tried to jump but did not, giving up a first down on 2nd and 19 (in this game the equivalent of 2nd and Canada).

I may come around in the near future. The constant short stuff was disappointing: even his attempt at a game-saving two minute drill featured five yard hitch after five yard hitch. He did have one nice dart downfield that Chase Winovich dropped…

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a linebacker linebacks even when he tight ends [Bryan Fuller]

…but that stands out as just about the only attempt Malzone made to get the ball down the field. There were a lot of doomed WR screens in there. And that two minute drill… oy. They got about 20 yards before time ran out. This is a tradition I would like to leave in the past.

One thing I'll say in Morris's favor. He's got that fade down pat. One got intercepted because Darboh didn't wall off and extend away from a defensive back and a couple more got dropped; the rest save one were completions, and I think Morris ended up leaving that one short because he got hit. The rest were on the money, in that space outside the numbers and inside the sideline where the receiver has space to play with and can detach from the DB.

That's a good location to have down, by the way. It's tough to throw and thus tough to get to for a lot of defenses. Deep outs, smash routes, corners, and those fades all end up in that general area. It's the location on the field that is the reason NFL teams go cuckoo for cocoa puffs when they find a Mallett type. Morris can buy himself a lot of leeway if that throw is as consistently accurate as it felt like on Saturday.

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a lot of this [Eric Upchurch]

Run game: I don't know. Ty Isaac was all but out (he's credited for one carry I don't remember), so the Malzone team's tailback was Wyatt Shallman (12 carries, 22 yards) with spot duty from Ross Taylor-Douglas*. Shallman is more of an H-back in college and it showed.

Meanwhile, both Ace and I assumed that Derrick Green had been mostly held out with an injury of his own only to find out that he and De'Veon Smith apparently split carries down the middle. It's just that Green's 7 went for 8 yards and Smith's 7 went for 50.

Smith had a sequence early in the second half where he ran tough and his offense started getting some actual time on the field. That ended with a fumbled exchange, because of course it did. Smith never fumbled in high school and hasn't done so in college yet so that issue is probably a freshman-QB thing more than anything Smith did wrong.

If Michigan knew Isaac was going to be limited they should have swapped Green over to the Blue team to get a better feel for the competition between those guys. Either way it was a good day for Drake Johnson.

*[who has now completed his tour of all the positions you can play on a football field and can turn in his punch card for a free bag of Combos.]

The one good run. Cole gets a good push on Henry, Kugler seals away, RJS and AJ Williams battle to a stalemate, Cole gets to the second level, and Smith makes a nice out-in cut to put the other linebacker on the wrong side of the hole:

gif via Ace

If Michigan develops holes on the regular I think Smith has an advantage because his ability to grind out another two or three yards will be valuable in the Harbaughffense.

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L to R: back, under threat, trying out [Bryan Fuller]

OL depth chart hints. Glasgow was back and playing center as if he had not violated his probation; the program said he'd gotten through whatever punishment the program had deployed for him. If he keeps his nose clean that should clear him to resume playing center this fall.

Meanwhile Michigan tried out Logan Tuley-Tillman as the left tackle on the blue team, bumping Ben Braden inside to guard. LTT picked up three legit holding calls; even so that implies that he's getting a serious look and Braden may move or lose his job. Erik Magnuson playing right tackle for the Maize team is another indication that the tackle jobs are not secure.

A scholarship guy who might be looking at some writing on the wall is Dan Samuelson, who was healthy enough to make the roster but IIRC did not play much, if at all. With a couple walk-ons seemingly ahead of them they might be down for the count. Bars (who I omitted from the rosters post by accident did play, at guard:

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He is 62 next to Kugler [Fuller]

If you made me guess right now I'd say that Erik Magnuson is Michigan's starting right tackle this fall and that guard slot opened up by the various line shifts is the most heated competition out there. But that's firmly in wild guess territory.

Wide receivers: do we have a problem? There were a number of ugly drops, none more so than Jaron Dukes batting a ball in his facemask directly skyward for an interception. Morris zinged it with unnecessary force, yes. That's still a worst case scenario for a receiver. Dukes had another sorta drop later and doesn't seem like he'll be pushing past the established guys this year.

Elsewhere: Darboh had a drop and a fade wrested away from him but recovered late to be the Blue team offense. Going up against Dennis Norfleet significantly compromises that accomplishment, especially since most of the plays were "throw it over that guy's head," but Darboh did display strong hands and an ability to track the ball in flight in a difficult situation. Some people can do that (Junior Hemingway), and some cannot (Darryl Stonum). Darboh is in the former category. Can he get separation from the likes of Jourdan Lewis? I don't know—one downside of this format.

Receivers other than Dukes and Darboh were playing with Malzone and barely got targeted on anything notable. This year's spring hype machine, Brian Cole, was not a factor until deep into the second half; Freddy Canteen made a couple of nice catches on balls outside the frame of his body. There was not a whole lot else to talk about.

There was a notable lack of separation for receivers going up against actual defensive backs. That could be bad; it could be an indicator that the secondary is going to be as lights out as we all hope. As per usual, we'll find out abruptly in fall.

Poor Damn Norfleet. In the aftermath Harbaugh talked Norfleet up as a guy who could contribute in all three phases. Nope. The act of moving a guy his size to cornerback is waving a white flag on his career.

I mean… maybe not. Harbaugh is weird and one of the specific ways in which he is weird is his predilection for flipping guys from one side of the ball to the other. This could be a Harbaugh whim that doesn't mean much about playing time down the line. But it probably means that Norfleet is kaput. We'll always have that punt return touchdown to seal the Maryland game inane irrelevant block in the back by someone far away from you.

BEARD. This is not Elliott, right? This is some other spectacular beard just hanging out on the sideline?

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[Barron]

This is one Brady Hoke tradition I'm glad we're keeping.

Comments

harmon98

April 6th, 2015 at 2:48 PM ^

My primary reason of not freaking out is Harbaugh. I mean, if he can't get this ship afloat, we're all doomed.

Ergo I remain a patient man. A patient man with a dwindling cooler of beer but patient nonetheless.

 

CoverZero

April 6th, 2015 at 3:01 PM ^

Are we certain that the guy with the beard, floppy hat and shades is not really Brady Hoke incognito, showing up to cheer on his 115 sons?

BlueReign

April 6th, 2015 at 3:03 PM ^

I am horrified untill proven otherwise in the fall. 

It also stung to hear the announcers calling out seniors that I was expected to be sophmore/Juniors. 

Michigan4Life

April 6th, 2015 at 3:13 PM ^

who saw Michigan WRs last year. He said aside from Funchess, Michigan WRs have serious problems in being able to separate from DBs. It sounds like the theme haven't changed and it will be a problem for Harbaugh unless he scheme them open which is unlikely given the offensive system that relies on running and PA.

alum96

April 6th, 2015 at 4:07 PM ^

Northwestern, Maryland, Minnesota, Utah looked great against our non Funchess WRs too.  It is impossible to rate our DB play against this set of WRs/QBs.  Really impossible.  A whole range of skill sets can look darn decent against them.  I am sure we have a nice set of DBs but you saw the difference even a basic passing attack such as ND had on it.

alum96

April 6th, 2015 at 3:44 PM ^

Wow - it sounds like Don, 93Grad and I wrote this, not Brian.  Holy EMO. ;) 

But realistic and refreshing.

I was not on board with Jabrill Peppers playing 2 ways last year but seeing Adoree Jackson do it and seeing the total lack of speed in our WR corps (and how bad their hands were - the major disappointment outside the running game), if Peppers has similar hands he has to be out there for 5-7 plays a game on offense.  There is no one on this offense you fear breaking a play for 30+ yards or getting 20 YAC.   Except maybe Drake Johnson or the "unseen one" (Isaac).  So the fact a guy with an ACL and a guy no one has seen play in a Michigan uniform (and barely played as a freshman at USC) are our 2 gamebreakers calls for Peppers at WR - or hell RB.

 

readyourguard

April 6th, 2015 at 3:57 PM ^

Here are 2 pulling plays that are not far from being good, positive running plays.

1) 5:35 2nd quarter.

Butt engages Poggi but allows him work inside (damn good work by Poggi).  That forces the RB to take an outside track.  The pulling guard can't get to Gedeon and he easily makes the play.

2) 1:07 2nd quarter.

This looked like it was going to be a perfect play.  The front side OL blocked down hard on their guys to seal them nicely.  But Marshall comes flying up field and before the pulling G can engage him.  Marshall alters the path of the RB enough that he has to slow down. 

We haven't been a good pulling team for a while.  However, after my initial consternation, I remembered that A) the projected starting 5 aren't working on the same team here, and B) these problems can be solved with reps, reps, reps.  We have arguably one of the best OL coaches in college.  He knows how to fix this and I believe he will.

(Sorry about the small photos)

readyourguard

April 6th, 2015 at 4:29 PM ^

I just watched the first play I broke down again.

Here's the difference Butt making the critical block at the point of attack:  about 4 inches.  He steps with the correct foot (his right foot), but just didn't get his helmet on the inside of Poggi's.  Butt needs to realize that Poggi has the advantage by virtue of his alignment (7 tec).  Butt has to step a little harder with his first step and GET THAT HEAD ACROSS Poggi.  He does that, and this play goes for a nice gain.

Space Coyote

April 6th, 2015 at 4:42 PM ^

Most teams that run a single back power O scheme will kick with the TE, but coaches adjust differently to how they deal with a 7T. With Poggi being the Defensive EMOL in that 7T, I think Harbaugh's scheme has the TE down block and wash that DE down. It's the OG's job to recognize that and extend his pull outside the TE and into the second level. From what I've seen of how Harbaugh runs power, if he can down block he's going to down block all day long and love it. That's the rule, plain and simple.

I know there are a number of ways of dealing with a 7T with any Power scheme, and it becomes a bit more difficult with a single back set. I like the varient where the TE releases outside the 7T and handles the 2nd level and the pulling OG then simply traps the DE. This doesn't require the TE to get good push on the DE to wash him inside, it also doesn't require the TE to win his hat inside the DE's hat and then gain leverage. It's a good angle for the TE on the second level player and forms a nice alley for the RB to run right off his pulling OG's butt.

Either way, you're going to see a lot of teams lining up with a 7T against Harbaugh, because it's hard to run Power against that alignment.

IMO, those communication issues between the OL and RB seeing the same thing happened a few times in the Spring game that really need to get fixed. The OL and the RB need to be on the same page with what they're seeing. In the instance above, you better ride the OL's butt for as long as you can because you need to hold that LB to help the OL out. If he's going inside the TE no matter what, you need to help him out before cutting outside. Worst thing that happens is a DE has to try to drag you down from the side with a TE blocking him and a pulling OG chipping him.

readyourguard

April 6th, 2015 at 4:43 PM ^

There are different ways to block this type of play, but on this particular one, Butt was supposed to seal Poggi to the outside. 

I suspect that once the line starts doing the basics properly, the coaches can vary how they handle the 7T.  I, too, would have the TE arc release and get that front side LB. 

M Go Cue

April 6th, 2015 at 4:09 PM ^

But we never saw the starting team playing all together on the field.  It's hard to judge anything from a team perspective when they are split into two.  

I still think Morris is going to be a great QB, he just needs a great coach to rein him in a little.  I think he has that now.

MGlobules

April 6th, 2015 at 4:11 PM ^

about the team's early struggles last year while the hordes here blew sunshine out of the collective a**. This is the team Harbaugh inherits, and we'll all do much better to be a tiny bit measured in our enthusiasm, rather than throwing ourselves from buildings come September.

Some of the adulatory rhetoric has been downright nonsensical.

Willis Ward

April 6th, 2015 at 4:29 PM ^

I think Brian meant to refer to Steve Everitt and not his former Michigan olinemate Matt Elliott.  Although maybe the reference was to Jumbo.  Either way, considering the career Everitt had at Michigan, including leaving a ton of blood and part of his jaw on the field against ND (and then refusing to leave the sidelines until the game was over to go have it reattached) I hope we can at least misidentify him by the right name.

Sorry.  Old man here that just can't believe the early 90s were so long ago that Everitt could be as forgotten for what he did on the field as he is now.  Everytime he is called "Hoke's pet viking," I cringe.  Again, I know I'm old, but for some of you younger guys imagine people looking at Jake Long on the sidelines in 10 years and talking about him as something other than a 100% Michigan legend and badass.  "Jay Harbaugh's tatooed Gorilla." Or something.

markusr2007

April 6th, 2015 at 4:34 PM ^

Of course.......Michigan football has been on a downward trends since 2011, which turned out to be an exceptionally "lucky" season for Michigan, so there's that.

2011: 11-2

2012: 8-5

2013: 7-6

2014: 5-7

Harbaugh is tasked with not only reversing the downward trend, but also to gain 2+ or 3+ wins in very short order (year 1?).  Then there's the crazy as hell, Randy Marsh crowd saying: "we'll be at 10+ wins year one!  Yeeeiaaahhh!".

I'm sure a lot of nice gains will be made during the off-season and for fall practice, and people will be overjoyed about those.

As Louis CK illustrated quite well, "but MAYBE"......it doesn't hurt to consider the Michigan 2015 season as the reclamation project that it very probably and most likely is.

Buddy Teevens and Walt Harris drove Stanford football into a deep ditch (16-40 over 5 years). It took Jim Harbaugh until a year 3 before the cardinal could hit > .500 in wins. Brady Hoke wasn't quite as bad as Teevens. And Walt Harris wasn't horrible (ask Pitt fans).

While it shouldn't take Harbaugh quite as long at Michigan, I for one am struggling to envision a year 1 turnaround right now.

kb

April 6th, 2015 at 5:18 PM ^

about the offense over the weekend and got blasted....sometimes the truth hurts. Way to tell it how it is, Brian.

cavebeaner

April 6th, 2015 at 5:55 PM ^

My money is on the virtual punter. That dude killed it on Saturday. Not one punt out of the end zone.

 

And our virtual punt returners didn't look so bad. Appeared that they actually ran the ball back.

 

That virtual field goal kicker, though, sucks some a**. Lotta work to do there.

The Man Down T…

April 6th, 2015 at 6:02 PM ^

our defense is going to be really good?  I know the offense hasn't had time to gel, but that defense looked really good.  Coverage, swarming the ball, not dropping interceptions.  They looked well coached.  That could be huge early on while the offense gets its act together.

The Man Down T…

April 6th, 2015 at 6:04 PM ^

I also think it got more attention due to our coach.  That stadium looked packed.  It looked like it had more people than the end of the season games last year.  People are hyped about this.

Hotel Putingrad

April 6th, 2015 at 7:26 PM ^

It's hard to get much separation on bubble screens and hitches. in the fall, there will be a cohesive OK, and I'm sure Rudock will have the freedom to throw more than 5 yards down field. We have solid depth at all positions on defense, and I think it's reasonable to expect a much better turnover margin this year. Utah and OSU are likely losses, but I expect a win everywhere else.

Ty Butterfield

April 6th, 2015 at 7:47 PM ^

I think this is a fair write up from Brian. It is not a bad idea for people to keep their expectations in check. I think Harbaugh and staff can get this turned around but it may take a little more time. Not getting to up or down about the spring game.

m83econ

April 6th, 2015 at 9:23 PM ^

Spring game probably did not feature starting QB or RB and jumbled o-line. Given the way Harbaugh talked in presser "no significant injuries", any analysis is over analysis because providing a preview of this fall's team was not one of the goals.

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Icehole Woody

April 7th, 2015 at 8:37 AM ^

Yes the offense looked bad on Saturday but I don't think the sky is falling.  The relative lack of a running game is understandable when you spread out the starting OL between two teams with many  playing at a relatively new position on the line.  Plus the injuries to some of the RBs.    Many of the incomplete passes are on the WRs and a solid defense.   

So, I think the offense will be OK by September 3rd.  Maybe not great but good enough to win games given what I anticipate will be a very good if not great defense.  Sometimes I think the fan base expectation for the offense is based  on the 600 yards per game QB Michigan used to have.

michiganfanforlife

April 7th, 2015 at 9:08 AM ^

Could the fact that our WR's are having some difficulty with catching balls from both a Lefty and a Righty play into the drops? I know that the spin is the opposite and that could make a bit of difference for these guys in tight spaces.  Once the starter is named in the fall and he gets all the reps, it might be easier for our WR's to get that down. Also a ton of reps in the spring/summer and a ton of hours with a jugs machine is coming.                                                                                                I also think that they didn't want to show a ton of our offense on a nationally televised game. The plays were not that different, and there weren't that many of them. Add to that the defense has seen all of these plays over and over again so far in practice. A team who doesn't have this familiarity wouldn't be as good IMO. I really like the short passing game, especially for young QB's in the beginning of games. This shows that our DB's will be really stout against the short passing game because of the way we are pressing our corners, but we will be more vunerable against fade routes. 

Leonhall

April 7th, 2015 at 9:44 PM ^

WR will end up being
Okay I think. Darboh, Canteen, Brian Cole will work his way in, and Moe Ways...throw in the TE's, I think we'll be fine by September. I thought Canteen played well in the game.



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MJ14

April 8th, 2015 at 12:58 AM ^

Honestly the QB play from Shane was pretty good in my opinion. It seems like the receivers need to work on catching the ball, and also fighting to keep the ball. The Watson interception had nothing to do with QB placement on that one. Also the one throw to Jaron Dukes the announcer said Morris should have taken some heat off, but I disagree. It wasn't that hard of a thrown ball and it was 9 yards out. Morris seemed to have a pretty good feel for how much touch to put on the ball. I actually think Malzone could use some more zip on his passes.

The biggest issue I saw were the receivers need to catch the ball better. On a good note, Wilson seemed to be in just about every play. Bolden also seemed to be in just about every play. I liked a lot of what I saw out of the defense. As far as the offense goes, I think they could actually be pretty decent. 

Morris or Rudock will most likely end up the starter and either one will probably be a solid leader for the team. I think Malzone is actually a few years away. He had a couple of pretty bad decisions, which is to be expected. He should get to redshirt and learn for a few years and then I expect good things out of him. I just don't think he is ready to be a starter yet.