Spring Roster Overanalysis 2015! Comment Count

Seth

We get excited about certain things around these parts. Like fun-to-size ratios. And new official rosters with updated weights. We've had 24 hours to parse the Spring data, and with Brian on the road today it's up to me to see how they've grown:

Things of [a Certain Definition of] Interest:

  • Brady Pallante is a fullback
  • Ross Douglas is listed as Ross Taylor-Douglas, and is back at corner
  • Ian Bunting is up to 6'7/243
  • A.J. Williams is up to offensive tackle size (6'6/285)

Weight Gain/Loss 2000

A reminder of internet policy on weight changes: all weight gain is muscle fiber, all weight lost was fat, and all static weight means fat was replaced with muscle fiber. I've highlighted things discussed after.

Player '11 '12 '13 S'14 F'14 Sp'15 '11- '12 '12-'13 '13-'14 '14- 15

Quarterbacks

Shane Morris     202 202 204 209     2 5
Wilton Speight       230 234 235       1
Alex Malzone           218       N/A

Running Back

Derrick Green     240 227 220 234     -20 14
DeVeon Smith     224 223 220 228     -4 8
Drake Johnson   203 213 212 211 207   10 -2 -4
Ty Isaac         225 240       15

Fullback & Tight End

Joe Kerridge     238 247 244 249     6 5
Sione Houma   221 231 240 242 243   10 11 1
Wyatt Shallman     237 243 239 244     2 5
Brady Pallante         263 276       13
A.J. Williams   282 265 263 260 285   -17 -5 25
Jake Butt     237 250 249 248     12 -1
Khalid Hill     258 255 252 252     -6 0
Ian Bunting         227 243       16

Wide Receiver

Amara Darboh   218 212 214 211 216   -6 -1 5
Jehu Chesson   183 196 195 197 207   13 1 10
Dennis Norfleet   170 169 167 169 168   -1 0 -1
Freddy Canteen       170 176 185       9
Da'Mario Jones     192 198 196 199     4 3
Jaron Dukes     190 200 197 204     7 7
Maurice Ways         195 205       10
Drake Harris       180 176 174       -2
Brian Cole           200       N/A

Offensive Line

Jack Miller 263 287 290 297 299 297 24 3 9 -2
Patrick Kugler     287 295 299 297     12 -2
Graham Glasgow     303 308 311 303     8 -8
Kyle Kalis   292 302 304 298 292   10 -4 -6
David Dawson     297 295 296 309     -1 13
Dan Samuelson     283 282 292 289     9 -3
Ben Braden   299 318 319 322 331   19 4 9
Mason Cole       275 292 287       -5
Erik Magnuson   290 285 295 294 296   -5 9 2
Blake Bars   282 291 290 294 281   9 3 -13
Chris Fox     338 310 309 303     -29 -6
L. Tuley-Tillman     300 290 290 309     -10 19
J. Bushell-Beatty         319 319       0

Defensive Line

Ryan Glasgow   294 300 300 296 297   6 0 -4
Bryan Mone       315 312 325       13
Ondre Pipkins   337 315 313 306 317   -22 -9 11
Willie Henry   302 306 297 293 311   4 -13 18
Matthew Godin   270 280 283 286 287   10 6 1
Maurice Hurst Jr.     270 277 282 281     12 -1
Chris Wormley   268 289 292 295 300   21 6 5
Taco Charlton     270 275 275 273     5 -2
Tom Strobel   250 265 268 268 270   15 3 2
Henry Poggi     260 271 270 273     10 3
Mario Ojemudia   223 250 250 251 252   27 1 1
Lawrence Marshall         241 238       -3

Linebacker

Desmond Morgan 220 230 228 232 232 236 10 -2 4 4
James Ross   225 220 225 227 232   -5 7 5
Joe Bolden   230 225 225 231 232   -5 6 1
R. Jenkins-Stone   206 225 221 234 240   19 9 6
Allen Gant   196 212 222 223 225   16 11 2
Ben Gedeon     236 236 240 241     4 1
Mike McCray     237 242 241 242     4 1
Chase Winovich         220 227       7
Noah Furbush         210 217       7
Jared Wangler         219 230       11

Safety

Jarrod Wilson   190 200 202 205 210   10 5 5
Delano Hill     205 205 205 204     0 -1
Dymonte Thomas     190 191 193 191   0 3 -2
Jeremy Clark   191 205 206 205 205   14 0 0
Jabrill Peppers         202 205       3

Cornerback

Blake Countess 176 182 182 183 180 185 6 0 -2 5
Jourdan Lewis     170 174 175 176     5 1
Terry Richardson   154 167 172 170 174   13 3 4
Ross Douglas     176 186 189 186     13 -3
Reon Dawson     170 178 178 175     8 -3
Brandon Watson       185 188 189       1
Channing Stribling     171 176 178 178     7 0

[Hit the jump for discussion on this and other bits I could glean.]

All Weight Change and Non-Change is Good

But we can speculate anyway, so long as EVERYONE IS AGREED this is just speculation.

RBs: Derrick Green has been torn down and rebuilt, we hope. He was too slow to be of much help at 240 in 2013, and slimmed down to 220 by fall last year. At that point he wasn't very good at spotting holes but displayed tremendous acceleration when he found one. Ty Isaac is also up to 240 this spring. FWIW Gerhart played at 237 for Stanford.

FBs & TEs: The most positive sign here is Ian Bunting up to 243. Since he's 6'7" think of the difference between 227 and 243 as that for a PF—increment your Bunting expectations. A.J. Williams is now back to his size as a high school offensive tackle. He was never going to be a passing threat at any weight; hopefully this will make him an implacable load as a power-running blocker; he certainly has a ton of experience. Brady Pallante is discussed below.

WRs: Horray for Jehu Chesson entering the 200-pounders' club. Canteen's growth is also promising, though he went from wire to skinny. Mo Ways added 10 lbs; other guys are hovering around 200. Drake Harris is down a couple of pounds thanks to the rehab process; at 174 he's probably still a ways from playing strength.

OL: Blake Bars lost 13 pounds and Dawson picked them up. The starters all shed a few; that's not surprising except with Mason Cole. Hoke's OL recruits arrived big so we shouldn't be too surprised at even this young group not growing.

DL: Mone, Pipkins and Henry all grew, and represent a very large DT/NT rotation with Glasgow. Wormley's up to 300. Lawrence Marshall you'd hope would be up to 250-ish by fall and he's a long way from there. You remember Craig Roh playing at that size as a freshman; WDE is a bit alarming now.

LB: An older group so not much to see here except Jared Wangler is now a proper WLB instead of a strong safety moonlighting there.

S: Peppers.

CB: Michigan still has a lot of 175-pounders, some longer than others. Terry Richardson is among them, which means he's now plausible to help.

No Longer Here:

Gardner, Beyer, Ryan, Taylor, Hollowell, Hagerup, and Wile were out of eligibility. Frank Clark would have been. Funchess left early for the NFL. Bellomy, Justice Hayes, and Heitzman are grad year transfers, and Bosch and Ferns were regular transfers.

Slot receiver Anthony Capatina, sometime starting interior OL Joey Burzynski, and buried TE/DE Alex Mitropoulos-Rundus also played out their eligibility. To them add quarterback Alex Swieca and tall WR Jonathan Keizer, two redshirted walk-ons who graduated in four and have apparently moved on.

    New Guys:

# Name Pos. Ht. Wt. Elig. High School
12 Alex Malzone QB 6'2 218 FR Brother Rice (Bloomfield Hills)
13 Matt Thompson QB 6'5 214 RS FR Indian Hill (Cincy)
81 Brian Cole WR 6'2 200 FR Heritage (Saginaw)
89 Brad Anlauf WR 6'4 199 RS JR Hinsdale (Illinois)
41 Ryan Tice K/P 6'1 177 FR Saline

Alex Malzone and Brian Cole you know—the only news is they received jerseys 12 and 81 respectively. In duty to my friend I point out that nobody since Brandon Williams ('99-'02) managed to hold on to #12 his entire career, though Alan Gant is on track to do so. I expect Cole hopes to get the 8 removed one day.

Unrecruited walk-ons don't officially join the team until they've been enrolled for a year so guys who've been around since last fall will suddenly appear as redshirt freshmen. Quarterback Matt Thompson was an unranked pro-style 2014 QB out of Cincy whose best offer was Davidson. Hudl page is extant. Junior highlights are on Youtube.

Anlauf is a two-sport guy who walked on the football team in 2012 and 2013, then tried to earn a basketball scholarship as a Zack Novak-sized forward. He played in eight games for Beilein last year and failed on each occasion to earn a trillion in the box score.

Ryan Tice is a preferred walk-on this year; he enrolled at Michigan in January. Tice is a local Wolverine lifer who retweets John U. Bacon, Norfleet doing Atomic Dog, and Bentley photos; his Halloween pumpkin has appeared on this site in the past. So yes I am a fan. Since Tice is a kicker and a walk-on there's no video—omigod there's video.

And a Hudl page. They got Kyle Secychel last year, and projected punter Kenny Allen can also kick, but Tice is another good backup plan in case Andrew David goes weird.

Position Changes in Order of I Care

  1. Brady Pallante to Fullback: This one I'm not sure I believe is permanent. Pallante committed to a grayshirt offer and was bumped up to a scholarship once Michigan realized the class would whiff on most of its late decisions. One bit of Brady Hoke's reputation that remains pristine is his evaluation and development of defensive tackles, so the stubby (now 6'0/276) guy is still a possible Grant Bowman.

    So what's he doing on offense? A guy the size of your average MAC center can be a goal line/short situation blocker that Michigan hasn't had since Sean Sanderson. I imagine with Mone and Pipkins available behind Ryan Glasgow there are enough bodies at nose for the short term that Pallante can spend a spring learning to go "BOP!"

    Michigan didn't get a nose in the 2015 class, but are in line for at least one instant impact guy and lose only Pipkins (whom the NCAA owes a medshirt!—that's a personal vendetta for another day). Since Pallante's role in the offense is probably limited, I'm guessing he can still progress at DT while being useful now.
  2. Ross (Taylor-) Douglas to Cornerback: He was recruited as a corner and played it his redshirt season before adding depth to the RBs, who were down to Drake Johnson, De'Veon Smith, and Antonio Whitfield at that point.
  3. Joe Hewlitt from DB to QB, and Nick Volk from LB to FB: Hewlett walked on the team last year; he'll be wearing Bellomy's number in Spring. Volk was a quarterback for Frankenmuth.

What this all means: cornerback now needs the dudes more than RB so if Douglas had remained there we'd be silently writing off his career. This is good. The additions to fullback probably don't mean very much since Pallante's projected role there isn't the same as Kerridge's or Houma's.

Number Changes:

Most notable thing is Magnuson is listed at his OL number of 78 (he'd worn 81 when Hoke used him as a TE). Brady Pallante switched from 54 to receiver-eligible 45. Nick Volk went to 38 because Bobby Henderson (another walk-on fullback) had his 37. Hewlett was 46, now 8. Cornerback Matt Mitchell is now #20; he had to give up 29 when Ross (Taylor-) Douglas returned to the D side.

Position Non-Change:

Wyatt Shallman is still listed as "RB" and probably will be until the ceremony anointing him to the sacred order of Aaron Shea.

Not Appearing:

John O'Korn isn't listed, though I don't know what transfer rules are for official documentation and whatnot.

Fact that Pretty Much Sums Up the Value of This Post:

Long-snapper Andrew Robinson is down 21 pounds: from 230 to 209.

Comments

maize-blue

February 24th, 2015 at 2:42 PM ^

It's good that the 6'4" Furbush has gained several lbs., but appears to be a year or two away from decent playing size.

JeepinBen

February 24th, 2015 at 2:43 PM ^

What is this Rocket nonsense?

Now that Norfleet and George Clinton have been avenged... hooray roster overanalysis!

I remain jealous of those who can't put on weight despite trying... and I think the real gleaning of information will be from spring to fall - once the fall numbers come out we'll see where Harbaugh really wants everyone.

Wolverine In Exile

February 24th, 2015 at 2:43 PM ^

- Ty Issac at 240 suggests to me he's ready to challenge for starting everydown back

- AJ Williams is now a TE in name only. He'll be the power TE in 2-TE sets (as if we didn't now this already)

- Chris Wormley at 300 gives me goosebumps. Like Alan Branch shaped goosebumps.

- Ben Braden at 331 is scary to me (not in a good way). Don't we need some mobility out of him? GGlasgow losing 10 lbs and becoming a pulling ball of death is scary (in a good way)

- Alex Malzone? 6'2" 218 lbs. Jim Harbaugh playing days? 6'3" 215 lbs. Just saying.

Space Coyote

February 24th, 2015 at 2:55 PM ^

It looks to me like OTs gained weight and interior players lost weight. Slot Dawson in as an OT, and assume Cole never really was his listed fall weight, and it seems that Harbaugh is preparing for lots of down blocks and pulling OGs. The weights will work their way back around the 300 mark by Fall, whether real or not, but the off-season is for reshaping bodies.

vulture

February 24th, 2015 at 2:59 PM ^

If it's going to happen, please catch it with an HD Slo-Mo camera so we can watch the destruction as God intended.  It will be like a bowling ball getting shot through a brick wall.

dragonchild

February 24th, 2015 at 3:45 PM ^

Weight =/= power.  When I'm looking for a short-yardage back I want excellent balance (not going down on first contact), low form, lower body power and leg churn.  From there, extra weight is a bonus.  Michigan over the last way too many years had too many "bruisers" that looked the part but stopped cold at the LoS by a filling safety.  Huge guys built low to the ground that can't get past the LoS because a 200-pound DB is in the way.  It was frustrating to watch once and I feel like it's a bad movie played out on repeat since the departure of Hart.

His lack of speed limits his ceiling but I like Smith's second efforts and I'll be watching to see if Isaac can finally give us that combination of burst, vision and effort.  I also thought Green's effort improved somewhat over last season but will he pick up from there?  I'm holding my breath.

dragonchild

February 24th, 2015 at 3:33 PM ^

. . . this team was without a HC for much of the offseason so it's possible a number of them took a mental vacation and got out of shape, so in this case no, I DON'T think all weight gain is good.  A fair number of them gained a significant amount of weight in a time whenupon only a small fraction was under a S&C coach's eye.

Mr. Yost

February 24th, 2015 at 3:39 PM ^

I thought he was finishing the spring where he is and enrolling in the summer, just like that kid from the D1AA school that is transferring to Oregon and they wouldn't let him use the weight room since he announced he's leaving in a few months.

Mr. Yost

February 24th, 2015 at 4:00 PM ^

QBs - Seem right, would like to see Morris with another +5 by the fall, but nothing too quickly

RBs - Green needs to watch it, people forget he was injured. I think he's out of shape. Hopefully he can get to a nice 225-230 and stay there the rest of his career. I also realize Isaac is 6'3, but I don't like the +15 either. I'm not buying good weight on either of these. Not that quickly. I'd love to be wrong...and with Harbaugh and Wheatley, I really don't care because it'll be corrected if it's not what they want.

FBs - I personally LOVE Pallante to FB, I think 263 is better than 276 for a FB, but for a guy who's going to be the short yardage/JUMBO guy...I like the 276 or eve 286 because he can still flip back to DT whenever needed.

TEs - Love it all.

WRs - Love it all (except Harris...poor guy)

OL - LTT was sloppy when he came in, I hope this isn't a return to sloppy because it makes me think of this...:

...gross. Neither LTT or Dawson is as big as Andre Smith, so hopefully this is good weight they've put on. Bars is too small, he and Fox are still on my "watch list" for fall '15.

DT: If anyone runs up the middle on us, I'll just have to give up on trying to make sense of life. That is a lot of BEEF. Unless we're in a 3-4, Wormley seems to be a DT for good now. I'm sad that Hurst didn't put on some of those lbs like the rest of the guys.

DE: We're too small at WDE. Ojemudia and Marshall are 3-4 OLB size, if you look at size only, you'll start to see a switch in scheme.

LB: Horray everyone.

CB: It's hard for skinny guys to gain weight...I can't judge these guys. I've been 6'3 188 forever now, 190 feels like it's 20 lbs away. That said, would love to see Dawson and Lewis get over 180.

S: Thomas plays like a WLB, he should just get up to 210 and watch a ton of Ernest Shazor video. Everyone else is solid.

alum96

February 24th, 2015 at 5:37 PM ^

Is it ok that I giggled @ every comment about Harbaugh's effect on weight? 

Its late Feb - the guy was hired 2 months ago and our S&C coach about 1 month ago....workout programs began about 1 month ago.  I know Harbaugh is all powerful and just his stare alone can add 7-8 lbs in 2 weeks (except for Stribling and Harris) but I dont think "Harbaugh's directives" on weight gains or losses really had that much effect in 30 days.

bronxblue

February 24th, 2015 at 5:49 PM ^

I expected more excitement from the overanalysis; it's almost like Seth just looked at numbers in February and didn't put too much stock in them.  THAT'S NOT HOW THIS PLACE WORKS!

True Blue Grit

February 24th, 2015 at 9:45 PM ^

Very disappointing that not only has he not gained weight, but he actully lost some.  The guy is not going to see the field much until he gains some strength.  I was really hoping that he might be a breakout player this year but it doesn't seem likely.