Spring Items: Defense Comment Count

Brian

Defensive line

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Headline news is not at all surprising: Rashan Gary is like dang. Palpable excitement from the coaches about getting to line up Gary next to Maurice Hurst and God help anyone assigned to block those guys on a stunt. Or not on a stunt. Gary remains extremely coachable and is on track to deliver on that #1 overall recruit hype. The end. Gary talk this year == Peppers talk last year. Everyone knows he's coming so it's almost beside the point to mention it.

Carlo Kemp looks set to back Gary up at strongside end:

"Rashan's a great person to definitely model your game after and follow up," Kemp said. "Especially because he goes in there, sets the tempo. For me, backing him up, I want to be as close as I can that there's no dropoff. When Rashan's in, we already know what he can do, and then when I come in I try to mimic his game a lot, so that when he's in and I'm in, it looks the exact same."

That would be nice. Kemp has impressed the coaches after a rough start that was partially because he was being played out of position at linebacker. (Remember that Michigan had a crisis at LB before the emergence of McCray last year.) Kemp on his interactions with Don Brown:

"He said when we first started spring ball 'I don't even know who this guy is anymore, last year I'd have traded him away for two used footballs' " Kemp said. "So that felt good. Last year I might have done the same thing, traded me away for two used footballs.

"Maybe we're up to three this year."

Kemp has the bloodlines and good size (265 now, probably approaching 280 by fall) so backup snaps at the anchor should be relatively productive. Early-enrolled freshman Donovan Jeter is also impressing, and right now he and Kemp are both wearing #2. Winner gets to keep it, I guess?

At the other end, Chase Winovich has added another chunk of weight as he attempts to replace Taco Charlton; hopefully this will allow him to hold up against the run while not sapping his ability to get around the corner. All weight gain or loss is good in the spring. Haven't gotten anything about the folks pushing Winovich on the depth chart so that might be a spot of worry. Jeter is probably more of a SDE/3T than a weakside end.

DT starters are established and I cannot tell you anything about them that you don't already know. Mo Hurst should be an All-American with increased playing time and the shiny stats he racks up. Everyone is waiting for Bryan Mone to finally display the potential people have chattered about for years. Chatter remains the same on Mone, and he did flash talent late in the year. If he can stay healthy dot dot dot.

Very thin on the interior with few of the freshmen on campus yet and Michael Dwumfour frequently limited with minor issues. As a result Michigan is experimenting with redshirt freshman Ron Johnson on the interior, which is very much a work in progress. Johnson arrived as a 245-pound edge rush type. I would interpret that as distress about backup DTs. Lawrence Marshall is also on the interior and has not drawn much buzz.

Depth is a concern. Starters should be bonkers.

Linebacker

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Mike McCray is an obvious starter and looks like you'd expect. Leader, thumper. Michigan's offense isn't of the variety that frequently tests McCray's main 2016 weakness—operating in space—so I assume you're going to get a lot of very positive reports on him that are about the stuff he was already excellent at, and we'll have to wait for live fire this fall to see if he's made progress on the downsides.

The other spot was presumed to be Devin Bush, but don't sleep on Mike Wroblewski, who keeps getting brought up by Don Brown for a reason. Wroblewski is an "A-gap player," which means he's a guy to take on fullbacks and hammer the interior run game but might be limited in sideline-to-sideline range. He's taken over some of the calls from McCray, which is quite a thing to do when you're taking them from a returning starter and fifth year senior who is presumably going to be a captain. He is on the two deep, legitimately.

Bush is also very much in the mix and will at least rotate through a la Gedeon when he was the third guy behind Morgan and Bolden. He could start, as well—he seems a much more natural fit for Michigan's forays against spread offenses.

FWIW, one report that Ben Mason "looks the part" at LB, so they are giving him his shot there and he may yet defy this site's oft-stated opinion that he's destined for fullback. Redshirt freshman Josh Uche Is "laying the wood" a lot and should get some playing time this year, possibly as a pass rush specialist, with a productive career in the offing.

The VIPER(!!!) spot is addressed in the next section because it should be.

Safety

Michigan looks set to go with a three safety look again—the defense is a bonafide 4-2-5 and we should get used to it—in a slightly different configuration than last year. This is not insider chatter but rather something the coaches have directly stated:

"We'll see in the Spring Game how those guys line up in live competition, but right now Tyree Kinnel and Josh Metellus, those guys are leaders of the pack [at safety] in my eyes," Smith said. "They've done a good job from a leadership standpoint. I think Tyree has done a good job with communication -- getting guys lined up and making checks. I feel comfortable with him in the game right now."

Tyree Kinnel is your free safety and will play the Dymonte Thomas role; Josh Metellus is the strong safety and will replace Delano Hill. Both are heady and "kind of going Jarrod Wilson," which is music to your author's ears. All hail boring safeties, with a side of Metellus thumping people in their earholes.

Meanwhile many reports have it that Khaleke Hudson is your leader at VIPER(!!!) and will seek to replicate Jabrill Peppers. Hudson was a bit slow picking up coverages per a couple people; he is physically capable of the slot coverage that Hill was so good at a year ago, and as he gets increasingly comfortable people in his vicinity have a tendency to get "jacked up," as the kids say. One report notes he's making a number of spectacular, freaky plays. As we've asserted about Hudson since he popped up on our radar, he's not Peppers but he's basically Peppers. The emergence of Metellus gives Michigan the opportunity to use him in that spacebacker spot he was born to man.

Meanwhile in news I find very important indeed, people think J'Marick Woods has a nickname but he does not.

This aggression against nicknames will not stand. That is just his name. Hockey nicknames that are "last name followed by -y" are bad enough. Come back when you've named him "Scooter" or "Booger" or "Dump Truck." Preferably all three.

Cornerback

All systems go for David Long and Lavert Hill, who have been gathering extensive praise as physical, sticky corners. Hill is currently stickier but Long isn't far off. When the projected starters are in it's been difficult for Michigan's receivers to get separation.

There is a significant dropoff after those two, with Brandon Watson and Ambry Thomas currently drawing the most mention. There's no such thing as a second unit yet, of course; those two guys are a nose ahead of the pack after the starters. Watson was meh as a slot corner a year ago and is past the age where rapid progress is likely; I assume he'll have a role similar to last year's unless he gets passed by Thomas right out of the gate. Survey says: possible.

Overall, practice insiders are positive about Michigan's ability to weather all the departures. Don Brown's said as much publicly, and privately he's saying basically the same things: there's no reason this defense shouldn't be in the same ballpark as last year's. #1 is a tough ask because of randomness and whatnot, but Don Brown has put together top end defenses without having a guy like Rashan Gary. He remains a hard-boiled cop one day from retirement in a candy store.

Comments

Magnus

April 12th, 2017 at 3:28 PM ^

Fair enough, but to put Furbush out there, you basically needed to take Peppers off the field. If Hudson is as good as Peppers, then maybe Furbush still won't play much. My guess is that Hudson will have some growing pains that may not make him so irreplaceable, though I have heard very good things about him. We'll see.

I definitely don't expect Furbush to play a ton this year. He's not going to get 80% of the snaps. But I think he'll get more than he did in 2016. (Also, he was injured for part of 2016, so that cut down on his PT, too.)

evenyoubrutus

April 12th, 2017 at 12:58 PM ^

Ohio State has had similar depth problems on the interior defensive line for years, and it seems like they've manages to work around it with insane depth on the edge, as we have. Here's hoping we .ca. do the same.

dragonchild

April 13th, 2017 at 11:33 AM ^

"sideline to sideline speed in the front 7"? We were possibly the only defense in the country that had sideline-to-sideline pursuit across our entire D-line.  Our nose tackle was chasing down ball carriers in space.  The only guy who was a tad lacking on lateral speed was McCray, but even that was usually adequate, and Gedeon's was merely "pretty good".  What made McCray exploitable was that Stribling's run D was downright terrible, so offenses tried to get them on the same side (away from Peppers).  When it worked, weakside runs had some space to work with.  But note just how far removed this is from running your base play and forcing the defense to overplay something.  Offenses went to extraordinary lengths to avoid taking Michigan's defense head-on and still they often didn't go anywhere.

I do think understanding the D better will lead to faster play, so, point.  But whoever you're quoting sounds like contrarian beard-stroking.

Bodogblog

April 12th, 2017 at 1:57 PM ^

Is Uche a space-backer, or is he the back up to Furbush (i.e. he goes in when they're 4-3)? 

I still hate this.  Furbush can only circle X number of games next year where we may run a 4-3, and even in those games it's only against heavier packages (i.e. he's off the field for nickel/dime/whatever on 3rd and long).  Give him run at MLB and let him try to take one of those jobs, and he can still be the #1 SAM.  Maybe they've already done that and he's behind Bush and Robo.  

Mich1993

April 12th, 2017 at 7:48 PM ^

I like this logic.  I thought he'd back-up all 3 LB positions, but I guess with McCray, Bush and Wroblewski maybe it's not needed.  

Furbush did play a bunch of snaps at SAM against FSU with Peppers out, so he may play more if Khaleke is substituted for more than Peppers was.  I thought Furbush looked pretty good when he did play.  Given the lack of experienced starters, I'm convinced he'll see significant snaps somewhere.  

Bodogblog

April 12th, 2017 at 9:49 PM ^

I absolutely did not notice that, I'll have to watch it again.  Thanks for mentioning (Furbush playing a bunch at FSU).  Was too busy being concerned that Metellus would get exposed. Not because I thought he'd be bad, but young and thrown in there.  But he seemed to play well. 

Even with 3 guys at 2 spots, wouldn't we want 4 guys at 2 spots?  He's several years in the program, I don't think it's too much that he learns two positions.  Hudson and Metellus are apparently learning SS and viper, and they're younger.  

HimJarbaugh

April 12th, 2017 at 1:14 PM ^

I remember there being a sentiment among some Michigan fans that maybe Metellus was part of a package deal and wouldn't see the field for a while, if ever. I absolutely LOVE it when we are proven wrong.

alum96

April 12th, 2017 at 2:00 PM ^

It seems like Gil was the package deal guy not Metellus.  Nary a mention on Gil here or in the UMBig practice reports.  Interesting.

As for the defense in whole, like someone else said we have a nice upgrade in athleticism and the like it sounds like but certainly youth in the secondary concerns and last year your "backups" were guys Brian is touting as an All American in Hurst and Gary.  So the depth is a concern up front.  When Glasgow went out late 2015 you saw the drop off in the play of the team just from that 1 guy, so if you don't get a healthy Mone or Hurst gets dinged you could see similar issues as you immediately go very young.   Kinnel gets hurt you also have a world of worry.  Etc.

Where the invariable injuries will be this year will make a big difference - some areas on defense they can be absorbed; others not so much.

The lack of contribition from the 2015 class is causing another of those "experience" holes as we had on the OL In 13/14.  Think it's a bit idealistic to think same defense as one which had 9 seniors and a Peppers on it, but if it's top 20 it should be a good stepping stone to field a dynamic 2018 version that should be top 5 again.

Magnus

April 12th, 2017 at 2:37 PM ^

Gil has received some mention. He's further behind than some of the other guys, but he's coming along okay. I don't know if he'll be passed by the incoming freshmen, but the vibe I get is that he could be a decent player if given a chance to develop.

Jim Harbaugh's…

April 12th, 2017 at 4:06 PM ^

Is there gonna be a special teams version of this series? Curious if there's been any chatter about who will be returning kicks given that the top 3 options from last year (Peppers, Lewis, Chesson) are gone.

umbig11

April 12th, 2017 at 6:08 PM ^

Speight won't play much on Saturday. The battle is for QB #2. Peters has gotten the best of JO'K a couple times this spring. The staff will watch how it plays out on Saturday. Those two are in a battle right now. Every play will be evaluated and graded. Who can protect the ball and move the chains.