Sure, all coaches may teach and preach toughness but the reality is some teams are more physically and mentally tough than others. I have no idea if Hoke's team will be tougher but it doesn't hurt to emphasize and re-emphasize. It's good to have a clear understood message that is repeated in any organization.
Spock And A Hoke Place
In a van down by the river. Yes, okay, in a van down by the river. You can stop emailing me this.
In a van down by the river. Hoke's talked to Adam Rittenberg. Here's yet another image of Brady Hoke pointing at stuff:
This is good. This makes him basically Urban Meyer.
As far as the actual WORDS Brady Hoke was SAYING, I get the feeling that in six months we're going to be able to do this in our sleep:
I want to make sure we're crystal clear on the direction we want to go. They have to understand the goal of the program and how we're going to go about achieving that goal, the accountability to each other, the toughness that we want to play the game with, the mentality we want to play the game with and the demeanor that you play the game with.
He also says Denard is definitely staying and will be "the lead part of our offense." In part two he says "represent Michigan," "represent the University of Michigan," and "play Michigan football." This man is on message.
Dollarz. Michigan's buying out the remainder of Hoke's contract for a million dollars, which you knew. They're also going to be paying out an extremely precise sum for next fall's game against the Aztecs:
Michigan agreed to pay $1,016,800 for SDSU to play the game in Ann Arbor. “That will be a fun one,” Sterk said.
The tomato cans are getting expensive these days. Actually, with SDSU sporting a senior quarterback in 2011 and Michigan's secondary still trying to figure out which way "left, left, LEFT GODDAMN LEFT AAAARGH" is dubbing SDSU a "tomato can" might be getting ahead of ourselves. The last time they came to town it took a who-dat freshman tailback named Mike Hart to pull Michigan's ass out of the fire in a too-narrow 24-21 win.
Also from that article: SDSU's 22 verbals are not wavering according to their new coach. Just in case you were wondering if we could pick off players from the fifth-ranked class in the MWC.
A (the?) defensive coordinator candidate. The name being thrown around at the moment for Michigan's open defensive coordinator spot is former Michigan assistant Vance Bedford, who was the DBs coach from 95-98. After that stint he had a six year tenure as a DB coach with the Bears, was hired by Oklahoma State to be DC, was fired after two years, returned to Michigan for Carr's final season, left for Florida to be DBs coach, and was named Louisville DC when Charlie Strong got that job.
Louisville put up some nice numbers this year but when the head coach is Charlie Strong it's questionable how much impact you're having. Also, playing in the Big East had an impact on that—they're a good-not-great 40th in FEI, one slot behind UConn. Bedford's previous tenure as a DC did not end well. Just a few games into his second season as AD he unleashed this…
Monday, after OSU's defense surrendered 509 yards in a loss at Houston, Bedford said: "People are saying, ‘Well, same 'ol Oklahoma State.' Go tell those people that told that same 'ol lie to go ahead and jump off the ship like a bunch of roaches. That's OK because that's what they are, a bunch of roaches.
…and then refused to back off of it later. This probably did not help his case to keep his job; neither did finishing 95th and 89th in total defense in his two years. Oklahoma State got worse after he left, FWIW.
Hiring Bedford would be another shrug-your-shoulders moment. There's no reason to expect he's awesome but he's not Greg Robinson.
Campbell spins like a top. According to ESPN—weird source for this obscure news—Will Campbell will move back to defensive line. That might be an indication Hoke is planning a 4-3, where Campbell might fit better as a planetoid-sized NT whose job is to be the unmovable object.
The problem with this is that Campbell was very moveable in his brief stints on the field and people generally thought Bruce Tall was the one defensive assistant who could find his ass in three tries. Since Michigan has a couple of quality candidates to replace Steve Schilling they might as well try Campbell out in a scheme that fits him better than the 3-3-5 did. I'm still doubtful he's going to suddenly figure things out.
The Hoke file. Your long fluff piece on new coach X fell to Lynn Henning and reveals a strange opinion about vegetables:
"He didn't like vegetables. His favorites were two of the dumbest: cooked spinach and Brussels sprouts."
What's your problem with spinach and brussels sprouts, Mother Hoke?
BONUS: Phrases deployed include "crackerjack recruiter," "sublime hire," "astonishingly pure love for Michigan," and "the fun, the glory."
Etc.: Headlines you'll see. MVictors has handy sound clips you can embed whenever a thing Brady Hoke said in his introductory press conference aligns with your thoughts and feelings. Podcast appearance on Bucknuts, though you still have to login to hear it. San Diego is slightly more laid back than West Virginia about football.
Bedford. UM really needs a good DC, and IMO Bedford is just ok. Maybe a young fiery coach, like a Diaz (obviously not him). If they don't go that route, I would like to see a GOOD NFL defensive coach come in.
"Here's you, here's Matt.......*CaaaaRASH*!!!!"
Dantonio has done a neat job at East Lansing: 33-19 record, good recruiting classes, with all four of his teams making it to bowl games. There was an ugly dorm incident 14 months ago and jail time for one of his starters the past year, but given the realities major programs face when they have 100 men, aged 18-22, under their care, that's good stewardship.
it is always an "incident."
I thought there were two "incidents" since Dantonio was named head jailer at Sparty Penitentiary, making his Bowl-Game-to-Beat-Down ratio precisely 2.
Hey man, like, nobody killed anybody yet... that's a plus!
Man, that's just crazy talk. I mean..."Everybody kills..." - signed, Terrell
wrong Lynn Henning fluff piece. This one was him fluffing St. Dantonio while comparing BH/MD hires.
You have to admit, that's pretty good for 100 men under his care. Let's face it: Not everybody's the perfect person in the world. I mean everyone kills people, murders people, steals from you, steals from me, whatever.
Well done, old chap!!
...the internets would ASPLODE!
speech patterns have been captured and cloned onto Brady Hoke in a strange experiment from the 90's that no one told us about... It's Tremendous.
You mean they've failed to remove it from this clone.
by this guy, IIRC
Well...I was a big fan of the Brady Hoke hire, but I hate Brussel sprouts. So, I may have to re-think this.
Caption for top photo:
New Michigan Football coach/Amateur Magician, Brady Hoke, magically floats his giant Chocolate M before he devours it and begins a VIP shopping trip through a Wayne Salvation Army. (AP Wire Services)
Puppy Dog Eyes. Who could say no to this man?
Would you criticize a puppy dog for having a below .500 win/loss record?
Roasted brussel sprouts are quite possibly the greatest vegetable in the history of everything.
Roasted brussel sprouts with chorizo or bacon? Perfection.
See above for my prefered recipe, but I'm totally on board w/ bacon + roasting
hold the Brussels sprouts.
I could eat bacon at every meal.
Sadly, not for long.
All Lynn Henning pieces would prefer to be fluff pieces about Michigan State. That's the place he loves the most, because MSU students actually consider his writing to be somewhat avangarde, at least by East Lansing standards. They don't question his average-ness. MSU is all about average.
Occasionally, he is forced to fluff someone else, but it's must a momentary diversion until he returns to servicing Dantonio. That was the entire point of praising Hoke for potentially making an immediate impact -- an impact "just like Dantonio."
Honesty is the best policy. All the rah rah talk makes him seem more like the head cheerleader than the head coach.
When will Denard release a statement saying he is staying?
When I read the freep article it seemed like he wasn't featuring Denard in the offense but giving him a chance to compete for the job.
Feel the Hokementum,
I love brussel sprouts. They can be prepared any number of ways, with a reduction or glaze, sauteed with bacon, pan roasted w/ garlic. Usually I just steam them till soft, season and add some red wine vinegar sprinkled on top. They make an excellent side dish to pork. Also of interest, they the same species as cabbage, brocolli and cauliflower, simply different cultivar groups.
Do you enjoy eating brussels sprouts? I hope you won't be put off by my frankness when I tell you that I absolutely love them. In fact, I enjoy no food item more than a freshly-boiled brussels sprout.
Now, I've done a lot of movies, and it's true that I've worked with quite a few celebrities who did not share this opinion. I'm sorry to say that these people have always angered me. There are two types of people in this world: those who eat brussels sprouts whenever it is possible to do so, and those who opt to do other things with their free time.
Who do the latter think they are kidding? What pastime could be more rewarding than the consumption of brussels sprouts? I haven't yet found one, and I don't expect to in my lifetime.
Unlike other foods, brussels sprouts can be eaten at any time, in any place, and it is not necessary to cook them. Now, I ask you: Why not eat brussels sprouts? They are delicious. I carry a bag of brussels sprouts with me wherever I go. I eat them from the bag whenever I get the urge, regardless of the circumstances. When I make a movie, my brussels sprouts are my co-stars. If, in the middle of a scene, I decide I want to consume a brussels sprout, I do so. I waste the director's time and thousands of dollars in film stock, but in the end, it is all worth it, because I enjoy eating brussels sprouts more than I enjoy acting.
This bothers some people. I was supposed to portray Batman, but when Tim Burton learned of my brussels sprout cravings, he asked Michael Keaton to wear the cape. To this day, I am peeved about this.
When we filmed The Dead Zone, I ate over 800 brussels sprouts a day. It was necessary. My character needed to come across as intense as possible, and I found the inspiration for that intensity in my intense love for brussels sprouts. The director, David Cronenberg, said that he would never work with me again. I kept eating brussels sprouts when the cameras were rolling, and that seemed to bother him. I say f*ck him. He doesn't even like brussels sprouts.
I would like to end by emphasizing once again that I really like to eat brussels sprouts. If any of you people disagree, I loathe you. I despise you. Not only that, but I also despise all your loved ones. I want to see them torn to pieces by wild dogs. If I ever meet you in person, I'll smash your brains in with a f*cking bat. Then we'll see who doesn't like brussels sprouts.
Have you ever tried peeling them---time-consuming---and sauteing them with a little olive oil, shallots and rosemary/
I give it one month into football season next year and every last one of you Hoke doubting, offense craving Oregon style fans will be rooting for Brady Hoke and his disdain for vegetables! Apparently there is no vision in this camp. Have you not heard the great news? Robinson is staying....HELLLLLLOOOOOOOO!!!???
Defense will once again regain its supremacy; as it SHOULD NEVER HAVE LEFT! Look at the big picture here and realize that Hoke and his staff are going to WIN and they are going to do it as 'Michigan Men' and as 'The Team' and regardless of how they achieve their success you will all be eating your words when Hoke is bringing home National Championships! Yes, I said it, National Championships!
I feel like it's 1975 all over again. Let's play option, hell let's play wishbone. Unfortunately, it's 2011. Most of the rest of the college football world has moved on.
And Robinson--that's not a done deal 'til Fall.
The wishbone might actually work a little bit these days, since so many of the coaches working these days haven't seen it in 25+ years, if at all in their coaching careers. Georgia Tech's offense is straight out of the 50s. And the read option offense has many of the same phylosophies as Crisler's offenses.
and former service academy coaches are playing wishbone or at least wishbone-like offenses (in the academies' cases at least it is because they are size-challenged).Hell, some high schools still play single wing--let's try that!
run a package several times a game that has 3 players in the backfield, lined up in a triangle. They call it "bone".
Apparently they have been watching some highschools in the area...
And it's not so much that I don't like people disagreeing with me. It's that I don't like hearing from people who think everything is black or white.
Really, instead of just negging the post you didn't like, you actually went back and negged 11 older ones? Yea, that's how its supposed to work.
Black and white? We're talking about systems and the evolution of a sport--not wildcat formations and whatever the Packers are running a few times a game (I trust the running backs aren't throwing the ball ala Bob Chappuis)--the wishbone is dead, it's era has passed, and please feel free to remind me if it returns to a major college program. Then you can legitimately look up all of my posts and neg them. Some things are blacker and whiter than others. I believe this is one.
I also believe someone is used to getting his way. Now have at it.
I haven't negged 11 posts total since I started posting on this blog. I don't know where you get the idea that I went through your posts and negged a bunch of them.
Secondly, you just proved my point by saying "the wishbone is dead". BLACK AND WHITE. The read option is basically a modified single wing. They change some blocking, change the name, and bam, "different" offense, right? No, it's an updated version of the single wing, regardless of what you call it. But hey, the single wing is dead, too, right? Its era has passed?
My point is that offenses evolve, constantly. Defenses do, too, though less noticably and less rapidly. There's no such thing as "the era of X offense died in Y year", because teams tend to evolve over time more than drop one scheme for another between seasons. Some teams hold on to certain elements maybe for decades. Some elements disappear and come back decades later. There are very few offenses in the country who run the exact same offense all game long without varying.
The wildcat is a step in the evolution. The west coast offense was a step in the evolution. The read option is a step in the evolution. Any number of other schemes are just steps in the evolution. THERE IS NO BLACK AND WHITE.
Oh, and wtf do you mean "used to getting your way"? I make a comment on a blog and stand by it. I have no problem with people disagreeing with me. I only have a problem with stupid people with stupid arguments disagreeing with me. And I'm fairly confident most people have that same problem.
you really don't like people to disagree with you, apparently.
No one here will be sad if Hoke is wildly successful. No one here is rooting for him to fail or attacking him. Until he delivers those national championships you promised on his behalf, he's an unproven talent.
I truly hope your prediction comes true.
some of the best teams Michigan has fielded in the last 40 years were under Gary Moeller's regime, and the team was pretty balanced then. Very good defenses, very good offenses.
And to be honest, I don't see a team like the 1997 team winning a national title these days, the way the landscape in the NCAA is. Beating everybody on your schedule 21-10 is a great way to make the voters think you're not as good as the Auburns and Oregon's of the world who are beating people 45-21 and will likely make you TCU. Hopefully the Michigan brand is above that... but I'm not so sure about that anymore.
21-10? That isn't even close to how the 97 season went. They beat 7 ranked teams and won by an average of 17 points.
Aburn this year played 6 ranked teams and had 7 games where they won by single digits and 4 where they won by 3 or less.
Times haven't changed much.
21-14, 28-24, 26-16, 20-14, 21-16. Hell, even 23-7 and 23-6 isn't the kind of sexy scores the voters want to see these days.
And Auburn is in the SEC. If you haven't noticed the SEC bias in the polls over the last several years, you're not paying attention.
When you said that beating EVERYBODY 21-10 I didn't think you were including top 5 teams. I'm sorry but when you beat #4 OSU 20-14, that will definitely help you in the polls.
They also beat #15 Iowa 28-24; #23 Wisconsin 28-24; and #8 WSU 21-16 in the Rose Bowl;
The 23-7 game was against a #15 ranked MSU team. Are you telling me that beating the #15 team 23-7 these days doesn't help you in the polls? What the hell are you talking about? They didn't play bad teams close as your post suggested.
Also, being in the SEC only helps to the extent that you have a harder schedule. If TCU beat 7 ranked teams this year including 3 top 10 teams, they would have been in the championship game, no doubt about it.
the beating a 5-7 Northwestern team 23-6, a 7-5 ND team 21-14, and to be honest, a 24-3 score against a 3-9 Minnesota. That 15th ranked MSU team finished 7-5 and was crushed in their bowl game. There was no sexy that season. At all. Well, except for Charles.
Maybe you're right. But in my opinion, it would be harder for a team like that to win the title these days.
Oh, and when I said "beating everybody 21-10", obviously I was generalizing. My point was that even against terrible teams and with a defense that forced 3 and outs constantly, the offense was extremely sluggish. That team won 100% with their defense. When is the last time the NC didn't have an extremely potent offense?
The 2006 Florida Gators with Chris Leak at quarterback only scored more than 28 points 5 times - only three times during the regular season and those were against Southern Miss, UCF, and Western Carolina. They scored 17 points twice - once in a loss and once in a win.They didin't score more than 28 points against a team from an AQ conference until the SEC championship game.
They had wins of: 21-20; 26-7; . 28-13; 23-10; 21-14; 25-19; 17-16; 21-14; and 38-28.
That is much less "sexy" than Michigan's 1997 team; especially considering that they had a 17-16 loss on their schedule.
Do you remember me talking about the SEC bias in recent years? If not, feel free to scroll up.
My point stands.
If you think your point is still standing then you didn't make a very strong point.
Wasn't PSU the #3 team at the time?
The game was in Happy Valley.
We DESTROYED them. Utterly DESTROYED them.
THAT was "sexy" in my book.
Daydrion Taylor's hit was "sexy" in my book.
As Cris Carter says, "C'mon, man!"
You should probably include the Penn State game-- they were undefeated and ranked #3, Michigan was #4, we beat them 34-8 in State College.
I Believe all the posters on this site will be rooting for Hoke and Michigan right from the first game and not waiting until one month in... We are all Michigan fans after all.
Critism of the hire does not mean anyone will be rooting for Hoke to fail.