I am thinking we will end up with 25 players in this class...give or take three.
i refuse to even consider this a possibility
I am thinking we will end up with 25 players in this class...give or take three.
Some of them will redshirt.
And if we get lucky D.Robinson. But will never know till signing day
will we lose DQ and Pearlie in the process? Our D-Line will be stacked for the next few years if these to come to A2.
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I predict a lot of speculation and hand-wringing, followed by wailing and the gnashing of teeth.
They will be gone, baby, gone.
the rivals board is saying that Stokes and Witty have canceled their visits to PSU and Florida, respectively. If true I'd have to say bodes extremely well for us.
Aside from that my guess is we lose Graves, Hall goes to OSU and we pick up Quinton Washington.
Witty dropped UF because they weren't going to offer him a schollie. Denard is visiting UCF today.
Ya Stokes dropped PSU but picked up Illinois, But I like our chances with Stokes and Witty. Hall is saying we're number 1 still but ya never know what will happen. Signing day is just around the corner so will just have to wait and see what happens
Part of me tends to believe that he is just playing a joke on everyone even mentioning any other school only to drop tOSU decision on signing day. If he does come to Michigan I will be pleasantly surprised.
Does witty even have an offer? If so i think we get him and Denard... They are a package deal and the only other school that has offered both is us and KSU
We have offered both Robinson and Witty. Robinson's coach said Michigan is in his "top 2" but he doesn't know who the other team is. The nice thing is Denard really wants to play with Witty, so that helps us.
confirmed the message board rumor that Witty's Florida visit was canceled. They just don't have room to take him. Good news for us.
Hopson's supposed to stay now, BTW, so that will help with Graves and Jones.
That is very good news.
Where'd you hear that Brian?
Well if it is a packaged deal with Witty and Robinson I guess that boils down to KSU and us, I kinda like our chances with that one Michigan vs Kansas State! I hope we can land them both, it would def help our competition at the QB spot.
Don't discount Kansas State. Their QB declared for the NFL draft, so the QB competition will be wide open. Bill Snyder ran a pretty successful program once with KSU and produced some good dual threat QBs, most notably Eli Robertson.
By no means was I counting out KSU, just stating when it comes to tradition and Education it's hard to compete with Michigan nothing against KSU but it's true. Ya Freeman is a possible 1st round pick not to sure about who is on the roster at the QB spot but I guess will have to wait and see.
I think KSU made a huge mistake bringing back Snyder. He resurrected that program once, but he's what, 70? How much fire does he have left to try and resurrect K-State again?
Stinks hardcore of sheer desperation. 'Course this has been said a bunch already.
My favorite thing about KSU is that they call Manhattan, KS "the Little Apple."
You cannot underestimate the allure of the Little Apple to recruits.
Plus they can get all of Beasley's sloppy seconds...
Brian - your info about Hopson "supposedly" staying is pretty big (and pretty good!) news. Interesting to find it buried in the middle of a board discussion....
Yes. He should definitely make a big announcement where he says "Things are going to remain the same." Just like when NASA calls a press conference to say "Earth is still the third planet from the Sun."
Hall has "dropped Michigan" and "OSU is 95%". If this is accurate, and he's saying this so soon after he declared Michigan a leader, I'd say it means he's a bit of a diva and a David Oku-style attention whore and he'll drop that LSU commit on us on NLOID because Lesticles likes his boys batshit insane, since they remind him of himself.
From what I've been hearing scanning the various Scout boards it's 50% OSU, 45% UM, and 5% Miami(that Miami).
Personally, I'm feeling an M commit, but I felt the same way about Pryor last year, and thus, no one should listen to me.
If a Glenville player goes all prima donna and doesn't pick OSU, well, I guess Ted Ginn Sr didn't get his sack of cash this year from Tressel.
Durr hurr $uckeye$ joke.
He's going to OSU, don't worry dood.
I'm sure wherever he goes, the side that got dissed will throw a hissyfit, screaming that they "never wanted him" and he's "overrated" anyway. Fact is, dude could easily start on either offensive line next year.
Starting is a possibility for either team, but if we don't land him it won't be as big of loss at TP was last year. We've got depth and talent on OL just not much experience yet.
Losing him does not mean building your entire offense around the wrong type of quarterback and patching it together with gum, glue, and a little hope.
It's odd though; I have more faith in Michigan's offensive line coach than I do Ohio State's. This is not without reason: three seniors, one a four year starter, the others in their third and second years starting, played on last year's OL, yet Michigan threw out an assortment of career back-ups, walk-ons, underclassmen and converted D-linemen and looked only marginally worse. That spells trouble for us.
Personally, if I were Marcus, and thus not necessarily a dyed-in-the-wool Ohio State fan, I'd pick Michigan if I wanted to make it to the league. Two of those seniors off of last year's OSU offensive line are likely to go undrafted, and the best player on that line will be lucky to go on the first day.
Really? A true freshman could easily start at Michigan, where we have a 5th year senior (Ortmann) at LT, a two-year starter (Schilling) at RT, and a couple highly touted redshirt freshmen (Omameh, O'Neill)?
He could easily start at OSU, where they have Browning returning at RT and stud freshmen like Mike Adams and JB Shugarts returning?
Whichever school he chooses, he's probably not going to play at all next year.
Browning's job is up for grabs. He earned the nickname "The Matador" this year for his play against Aaron Maybin, Brian Orakpo et al and whoever the hell plays DE for Ohio, Northwestern and Purdue. He needs a lot of work; Tressel may believe the best way for him to get better is for him to keep on getting housed, but if the OL struggles early on next year as badly as it did through most of the season, I'd expect a few spots to open up.
The situation on the Ohio State OL is this: three seniors departed off of last year's line: Rehring, Boone, and Person. Michael Brewster stepped in at center after the USC game and immediately became the second best lineman. Rehring and Person alternated at RG later on in the year, so in truth, it could be said only two starters are lost on the line: Boone and the Rehring/Person two-headed beast. If things go as planned, Adams is your LT, Cordle is your LG, Brewster is your C, and your RG spot is utterly up for grabs. RT, as mentioned earlier, is also potentially open, with Shugarts as the probable back-up. RG, however, is questionable. Connor Smith and Andrew Miller (aka the third-string tight end) both saw mop-up duty at RG, and both were rather pedestrian. Marcus Hall could conceivably start over both, especially if the line struggles early on again. Tressel showed willingness last year to make changes on the OL - he basically benched Rehring after the USC game for a few weeks, moved Cordle to LG and put in a true freshman at center. It could be done again for Marcus Hall.
Which is the long way of saying "OSU probably won't make a habit of starting true freshman linemen and he'd be buried on the depth chart at Michigan, so his chances of starting next year for either team or pretty slim unless a few people get hurt."
It's a long way of saying "both lines are relatively worthless and continued struggles mean spots will be up for grabs, at both schools"
"Earning" that nickname versus 2 1st round draft picks is a tough way to lose a spot, especially to a true freshman. Not saying his job is secure,but it reminds me of an old FarSide cartoon I had as a teenager. It was a Jeopardy game where 2 of the contestants were Einstein and Ben Franklin (IIRC) where they both had outrageous scores, and the third was this doofus who had 0. Short story long, the caption read along the lines of "not that it would matter much, but I don't think my buzzer is working".
Thank you for that journey back to the Far Side.
Was I pretty close?
was that Browning (and Boone, to be honest) got torched by Orakpo and Maybin, like most other OTs did, but Borwning also got beat by ends from Purdue, Ohio, Youngstown State, etc. He was noticeably inconsistent, but not the worst on the line. These are merely his faults in pass protection; he was anything but reliable when attempting the good ol' Ohio State off-tackle right.
Again, given the way Tressel shuffled the line this year, I would not be surprised to see him do it again next year. And I love(d) the Far Side, just so you know.
I just hate seeing these guys get branded for poor performances against elite talent, when they are clearly out-classed. My fanbase (myself included) is as guilty as any. Not to go all Jerry MaGuire mission statement, but we forget that this isn't the NFL. Sometimes we forget that these kids are playing with their hearts. Quan and Show Me the Money be damned......You know? Just run to the Buick. Got 2 football references in 1.
Good analysis of OSU's line next year, but you forgot about Boren. He, presumably, has not gotten worse over the past year, and can play any of the 3 interior spots.
So um, yeah, Marcus Hall probably won't start next year.
He has the talent and skills to step up if someone goes down if needed, But like I said we're pretty deep on OL with all our guys coming back.
What about him? Anything new?
yeah the hopson thing i read a while back that if he wasnt going to become the DC that he was going to give RR one more year out of respect. as for the final recruits. i'd say we lose one out of Graves/Jones. we pick up stallworth, stokes, montgomery, ferrell, witty and robinson. I would agree and think that if it were down to us and KState we should have the advantage, but i've seen too much this year with guys choosing tulsa and central florida over michigan that you absoluty cant count them out.
Who is Ferrell
Willie Ferrell is an ILB prospect. We probably won't get him, though.
Wasn't that kind of a joke though because i don't think he is a real person well he is he just works at movies and not football.
WOW he is real my apollogies to you Magnus but i think we can get him we look like the best school on his offer list.
Josh Robinson picked UCF over us.
I'm going to sleep now, setting my alarm for signing day.
I can't take it anymore
All and all if we don't land some of the recruits on signing day I think RR and the staff have done a pretty good job filling some needs during this off-season.We got some good talent coming in this year, plus the red shirt kids last year.So if we don't land some of the kids I think will be alright, plus 2010 class look like it could be a great one!
I would like to see, if possible, despite being unlikely:
1. Quinton Washington
2. Denard Robinson
4. Je'Ron Stokes
5. Sam Montgomery
If we sign up to 27 and count 2 EEs back to last year, I'd like to see, and I know I'm insane:
6. Travante Stallworth
7. Mike Edwards
I think Sam would be a big get as LaLota is pretty raw, and we need more D-lineman overall.