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Shotgun Snapcount

Reading the UFR's, defense jumping the snap against Molk keeps coming up as a weakness. How does that work from the shotgun? Does the quarterback still say "On two" or something, and the center waits two seconds after looking up to snap it?

It seems like it shouldn't be any harder to change up the snap count out of the spread than any other offense. Any ideas what's going on?

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November 13th, 2008 at 5:21 PM | I have no inside information, (Score:1)
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I have no inside information, but...

From the way it looks to me, it looks like the snap is completely left up to the center. Unless there's motion on a timing play, he waits for the QB to clap. Once the QB claps, the center looks up and glances at the front, then snaps the ball. Molk would be completely able to change up the timing. But he's a redshirt freshman and he has a lot of responsibility, so I would suspect he just forgets to vary the timing.

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November 13th, 2008 at 6:22 PM | Molk Looking Up (Score:1)
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What I have noticed is that Molk looks up right before the snap and does not pause. So, as soon as his head goes up, the D is off and running.

He should be practicing looking up and not snapping the ball immediately but waiting a different amount of time for various snaps.

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November 13th, 2008 at 8:11 PM | I don't know, there was one (Score:1)
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I don't know, there was one play against MSU, I believe, where everyone on the line moved except Molk. I think it's more complicated than just having him wait.

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November 13th, 2008 at 9:23 PM | Reps, reps, and more reps (Score:1)
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From: http://www.spreadoffense.com

If you're running a true shot-gun spread offense, your quarterbacks and centers should be getting hundreds of snaps in weekly. These snaps should include different tempo's, ques, and verbal communications used to ignite your offense.

I always like to add some D-linemen in my centers face for half of these practice snaps, making simulated jerking movements, verbal 'smack', and the like to simulate wars in the trenches.

More info at:
http://www.spreadoffense.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2

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November 13th, 2008 at 10:00 PM | A Quandry (Score:1)
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Just watched some plays from the M/MSU game. Molk does seem to be fairly consistent on snapping the ball immediately after looking up.

In the game tonight, the VT center also looks up before the shotgun snap but waits longer than Molk.

Looks like the Miami center looks up slightly (sometimes hard to notice for me).

An on-line video of all 51 of Tebows TDs last year is hard to see but it appears the center does not look up on the shotgun snap and there is no hint the snap is coming.

Not sure WTF all of this means?

Help, Brian!!

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November 13th, 2008 at 11:27 PM | You looked at 51 replays of (Score:0)
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You looked at 51 replays of Tebow's TD's to see what the C did with his head?

I think, mmmmmmaybe, we're obsessing about a largely irrelevant point.

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November 14th, 2008 at 1:13 PM | Better Lucky Than Good (Score:1)
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Actually it was pure luck/coincidence. I was Googling the spread offense and up popped a YouTube of all 51 TDs in about 2 minutes.

BTW, if the opposing D is getting a tip-off and can anticipate the snap, it is a very big deal (hardly irrelevant).

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November 14th, 2008 at 10:43 AM | I'm holding out slim hope (Score:1)
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I'm holding out slim hope that RR has worked the snap count the same all year in order to do it differently against tUOS and bollix up their linemen. But I'm not holding my breath.

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November 14th, 2008 at 1:09 PM | Bollix. (Score:1)
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Bollix.

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November 14th, 2008 at 1:15 PM | Of Course (Score:1)
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Why didn't I think of that? Of course, RR decided to lose several games just to get a couple of offsides against osu!

BTW, there are no caps and no "t" in the name of the school in the worst state ever!!

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November 14th, 2008 at 11:26 AM | it's on molk (Score:1)
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he's also looking to get people to jump offsides, if you remember that's why sometimes the OL stays still and the QB rolls out and passes downfield. assuming the offsides is called we now have a free play.

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