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like the mean streak, this coaching search will jerk you around

HARBAUGH HARBAUGH HARBAUGH: HOORAY. I hope you guys like rollercoasters. Yesterday it was all sun and butter, because when the money comes in someone's hearing something:

Note that this is not a "who will be Michigan's coach" prop, it's a "where will Harbaugh be" prop. The sportsbook had a low maximum bet on this event (2k) but had so much Harbaugh-to-M action coming in that they couldn't set the odds high enough to discourage it, and thus yoinked the bet.

At the same time this was going on the insider rumble got near-fervent at Rivals, partially from unofficial sources, partially from official ones. For the first time it really felt like it was happening; I heard some chatter that Schlissel and the regents have been brought into discussions. That implies that negotiations reached the part where numbers are involved.

The only pause came last night when Sam re-iterated that a couple of his sources were skeptical, and even he later said he thought Harbaugh was probable. Hooray! Stack the pancakes and get the syrup catapult out, we're having Harbaugh for brunch!

HARBAUGH HARBAUGH HARBAUGH: HELP. Then this morning the NFL guys weighed in with the same thing they've been saying since it became clear Harbaugh was headed somewhere else after the season: nope. Many of them did so.

The problem with these assertions is that many of them contain nonsense within them. CBS:

While many are connecting Harbaugh to the opening at Michigan, where he was a star quarterback, sources close to the coach maintain he is not interested. Harbaugh's family has close ties to outgoing Michigan coach Brady Hoke and Harbaugh is much more interested in NFL possibilities.

Ties to Brady Hoke are not a reason to not take the Michigan job. I'm sure these guys are all getting information from people who know something about something, but they seem to just repeat it without considering whether or not that source is reliable in this matter. The story goes on to assert that Steven Ross "could" end up being the primary competition with the Raiders for his services when people have reported that his focus at the moment is getting him to Ann Arbor—and away from the Jets.

So I'm skeptical of that, but poke an NFL insider today and he's saying Harbaugh to Michigan ain't happening. Ian Rapoport said Michigan "reached out" and "left convinced he wants to be an NFL coach"; FWIW he is the guy who asserted a few weeks ago that Ross wanted Harbaugh at M.

So the usual, with all sides escalating. Someone's going to look dumb.

Dec 15, 2013; Tampa, FL, USA; Tampa Bay Buccaneers head coach Greg Schiano against the San Francisco 49ers during the first half at Raymond James Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Kim Klement-USA TODAY Sports

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

MORE PLAN B STUFF. Michigan is still focused heavily on Harbaugh and will be until he gives them a flat no. But they're not putting all their eggs in one basket, which is an improvement from the 2007 search (no basket, eggs anywhere and everywhere) and the 2011 search (basket reads "HARBAUGH!!! hoke i guess). I get the impression that Michigan is contacting a lot of people, either because it's a good idea or because it's the ultimate smokescreen.

So I have a series of unconfirmed reports, all about different people who have had the proverbial feelers extended to them. Along with the guys mentioned yesterday (Whittingham, Mullen, Addazio, Mora) I've had blips on David Shaw, Mora (again) and even Gary Patterson. Patterson is unlikely unless his team misses the playoff—we'll know that today. Previous reports that he'd flat turned M down are premature but likely to be correct in the long run.

And… ugh… people keep talking about Greg Schiano, who Florida passed over for a third year coach with a 7 million dollar buyout and Nebraska passed over for a 62-year-old. Scout's Brian Dohn reports($) that Schiano is making a "strong push for the job" after turning Michigan down in 2007; it should be noted that the strong push is coming from the Schiano side of things… which like yeah duh. I haven't heard anything about the interest being reciprocal.

In re: Schiano's attractivness. Nope! He had one really good year in 2006, and then spent the next five years going 16-19 in the post-defection Big East. He deserves credit for rebuilding Rutgers, but his star has collapsed since he seemed plausible in 07.

ON THE ACCESSIBILITY OF MULLEN. I forgot to include a link to a Matt Hinton piece on Grantland describing the various ways in which Mullen has cobbled together a top ten team from discarded ham and kumquat-flavored toothpaste. Hinton includes a couple of charts that demonstrate how impressive Mullen's season has been and why he's liable to GTFO of Starkville at the first reasonable opportunity:

I cross-referenced every player listed this week on official depth charts released by Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, LSU, Mississippi State, Ole Miss, and Texas A&M against their original recruiting rating, and on paper, at least, the difference between the top of the division and the ostensible bottom is a yawning chasm:

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Mullen’s only five-star signee, sophomore defensive lineman Chris Jones, is listed as a backup; of the four-stars on hand, only four of the eight are listed as starters, all on defense: senior defensive tackles P.J. Jones and Kaleb Eulls, sophomore linebacker Beniquez Brown, and senior safety Justin Cox. Everyone else on the no. 3 team in the nation, by the standards of the rest of its own division, arrived as an afterthought.

And this is a considerable improvement on MSU's previous recruiting! It is super-hard to maintain against that kind of recruiting thunder in a division where Hugh Freeze might be the worst coach. (Seriously. Who is the worst coach in the SEC West?)

And Scout's Jamie Newberg says "he just knows" that Mullen would leave for the Michigan job if offered it.

CUMONG MAN. The hotdog rumors will not die:

Last January Payton signed an $8-million-per-year extension that extends to the 2017-18 season. It makes him the highest-paid coach, period. Buying him out of that and giving him a commensurate contract is a financial commitment on par with those debunked Godfather offers, and presumes he wants to leave the Saints franchise he's been with since 2006. Also, all he has to do is suck less than the Falcons to make the playoffs this year. This doesn't pass basic common sense.

CUMONG MAN II. Gil "Thorpe" Brandt has a case to make for Schiano:

It is not a good case. The NFL does not like him one bit. Also: remember how we thought Nebraska's search was nuts? They could have hired Schiano in a hot second. Schiano is the only way Michigan can come out of this hiring troika with a guy the other two definitively passed on.

Etc.: Les Miles tells a recruit he's not going anywhere. I think he thinks that's true because he thinks he's not going to get a sniff. Here is a comprehensive rundown of everything that's been said so far.

Comments

Maize and Blue…

December 7th, 2014 at 11:13 PM ^

On here a while ago, it was about Bo and Harbaugh"s relationship, and specifically, about his recruitment. It seems that Bo strung Harbaugh along, and made him think that Michigan had no interest in him, even though Bo knew that Harbaugh wanted to come to Michigan more than any other place, and Bo wanted him to come to Michigan more than any other Quarterback, but just when Jim had lost all hope of coming to Michigan, Bo offered, and Jim jumped on it. Could it be that Harbaugh is doing the same thing to Michigan that Bo did to him all of those years ago?

KRK

December 7th, 2014 at 11:19 PM ^

No. I'm sorry bit I doubt an adult version of Harbaugh pines for Michigan's acceptance like he did back then. Plus, we need him more than he needs us. For UM to "string him along" would be quite possibly to dumbest strategy in the history of coaching searches. Any any hiring process or negotiation it's all about leverage. We have none other than his love for Bo and the program that UM was 20 years ago. His leverage is a fan base dying for him. In negotiation a the person who wants it the most wins.



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Maize and Blue…

December 8th, 2014 at 3:15 PM ^

With Jim having the big ego that he does, he probably believes, I.E. knows, that Michigan needs him more than he needs them, and because he is a bit "quirky", he might be thinking that he is going to do this on his timetable, if at all, and I don't blame him, as most people would do it on their own timetable. He probably is not consiously even thinking about stringing Michigan along, but just being himself. Things that happen to you when you are young, definately play a role in your behavior as you get older, so the Bo thing may or may not even be part of what is going on, I was just putting something out there that nobody else has posted on the subject, collectively, this blog could write a book on the subject.

The second point is ridiculous, Hackett has done everything right so far, except close the deal, and even so, there is no way you string along your best candidate, unless you do not want him, see Miles, twice. We are broken, but not that stupid.

The othe poster, he eiher didn't read my post, or did so with his head up his ass.

Don

December 8th, 2014 at 12:07 PM ^

Baloney. Not according to Jim Harbaugh himself:

"I used to stare down at that field as I was stenciling those numbers," Harbaugh told reporters, athletes and others who crowded into the Arrillaga Family Sports Center's Kissick Auditorium. "I so very badly wanted to go to Stanford and play for the Cardinal. … This was my number-one choice all along."

http://news.stanford.edu/news/2007/january10/harbaughsr-011007.html

Maize and Blue…

December 8th, 2014 at 4:41 PM ^

It's still a nice read. 

I know that you read this article because you posted in the comments.

Baloney, ham corned beef, lunchmeat is in the eye of the beholder, for in this article, Stanford is only a place Harbaugh was going to meet with Bo Schembechler, and it is pretty clear that he wanted to come to Michigan and play for Bo, as his first choice.

Perhaps when speaking with Stanford in 2007, he was crafting his speech for his target audience, like all good pulic speakers do. How would it gone over at Stanford if he had said," I really never wanted to come here, because the football program sucked back then, and I had the opportunity to play for a living legend at Michigan that I had looked up to for years, so I went there, but I am here now, so give me all of your support and patience, and I will create a great football program here."

I think he was blowing smoke up their asses, or ours?

From Mitch Album 12/28/1986

"It was his senior year in high school, he was living in California, and as he walked across the street to the Stanford football stadium, Jim Harbaugh figured his future might be determined in the next hour. He was dressed in a nice sweater, his hair neatly combed, loafers on his feet. Did he look grown up? He wanted to look grown up, because he was going to see Bo Schembechler, who was in town to coach the East-West Shrine Game. He hadn't seen Schembechler since the family moved from Michigan two years earlier. "They weren't even recruiting me," Harbaugh recalls. "I got a few things in the mail, but, you know, no phone calls, nothing. "So I went to see Bo after practice and he was nice to me, real cordial. He said they hadn't seen any film on me, they didn't really know anything about me.

He talked a little about the quarterback situation at Michigan and then he started to talk about my parents, and that was it. I got the feeling he was just being nice to me, but there wasn't really any interest." Harbaugh walked back to high school, got out of his nice clothes, and sighed. There was no question he dreamed of playing at Michigan. And there was no question he had no chance.

Or so he thought. According to Schembechler, this was all part of the strategy. "I knew Jim wanted to come here," the coach says now, leaning back in the big chair in his mahogany-toned office. "Of course some of these kids figure just because I know mom and dad they're gonna get a scholarship. That's just not true. I don't do that for anybody. But in his case, we had planned to offer him a scholarship before I ever went out there." "Why did you wait so long then?" he is asked. His voice deepens. "If Jim Harbaugh was going to come to Michigan, then Jim Harbaugh was going to wait for me."

Well, he waited. Right up to the last weekend of recruiting. Wisconsin had wanted Harbaugh badly. Arizona had expressed legitimate interest. Yet on the last possible weekend, the kid was flown into Ann Arbor, walked into Schembechler's office -- the same office where he had romped as a child -- and the coach said simply, "We want you to come here," and although he didn't answer right away, Harbaugh walked out knowing he was hooked. Not long after, he called Schembechler to accept. And that was that. So understated was the whole process that after Harbaugh said, "I'm coming."

 Stanford ?  Nowhere on here are they even mentioned, but as a place to meet with Bo.

bstaub32

December 8th, 2014 at 10:43 AM ^

Hate to burst the sportsbook bubble, but Sportsbook.ag is a terribly rated (D-) sportsbook based in Costa Rica. It is not reputable and it is certainly not the same as Las Vegas pulling a prop bet.

No "sharp" bettor would have an account there in which to wager, so I don't read much into their site pulling the line even if a lot of recreational bettors were betting on Harbaugh to Michigan.

Regardless, here's to hoping Harbaugh still comes.