The nation's 74th best receiver?!?! This kid had offers from FLORIDA, TENNESSEE and LSU. Certainly no slouch. Credit where credit's due, folks.
Scout's Jeremy Jackson ranking
Scout has Hopkins as the #40 RB which is 3 stars as well.
...don't give Scout more credit than the coaches of the team you support. If they're good enough for Coach Rod, they should be good enough for you. We don't need Scout's affirmation on Jackson's ability, we need the affirmation of the Michigan coaching staff.
I understand the sentiment, but by that logic we could never doubt who we get as recruits or be able to compare classes. Scout and Rivals are valuable as national (supposedly) non-biased evaluators of talent.
..that our society has devolved into "rankings" and "top 5 lists" and the like. However, I can't take the scouting services seriously when they rank Ole Miss and North Carolina's recruiting classes ahead of Michigan's simply because they signed 25 three stars, and mathematically that computes to a "better" class than Michigan.
It may make us all feel better to know that Coach Rod was able to pull in a class of players that a national wire service arbitrarily decided is very good, and decided to post stars on players. However, those services will not account for "fit" or "adaptability." I could really care less how our class matches up vis a vis other top level programs - I care way more how Coach Rod coaches them, develops them, and wins games.
Or are you just saying that they have 25 three stars based on name recognition and what you'd expect? UNC had a VERY good class last year. The had a 5 star and #1 rated DE in Donte Moss. In addition they had 10 other 4 star players, 4 of whom were rated top 10 at their position.
Then don't look at the team rankings, look at how many 5, 4, and 3 stars michigan gets each year and compare the numbers to prior years. I know the ranking system isn't perfect, but it's the best we have to use.
I took it as him saying that Scout missed the boat since a number of top coaching staffs had him way higher on their boards.
I think it was a "Scout should get their heads out of their ass" post.
A lot of times these recruiting sites don't have very good film to evaluate these kids yet. Sometimes even if they do they haven't had the time to watch it.
So the rankings will change. Really though, I think JJ and Hopkins are high quality players regardless of ranking.
Or, maybe, just MAYBE, Michigan fans evaluating a Michigan recruit, who is the son of the longest tenured Michigan coach, MIGHT, just a LITTLE, be looking at this through Maize and Blue colored glasses?
Here's a list of WR's ranked by Scout. Going off of offer lists, who should be rated higher?
(6'3"/185) Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, Nebraska.
(6'2"/180/4.65) Cincinnati, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Michigan State, Purdue.
(6'3"/215) No offers
(6'3"/190) Michigan, Florida, LSU, Tennessee, Stanford, Iowa, Texas
#22 - Keeston Terry
#28 - Dyjuan Lewis
#45 - Quentin Parks
#74 - Jeremy Jackson
Now I don't care about the rankings because they don't matter but I'm just trying to figure out how it works.
I'm sure scouts just trying to get through most of the recruits as fast as they can. They see some tape then rate them. As the year progresses more tape and scouting camps will be handed over so they can re- vamp the rankings.
I expect that there will be significant changes from now till signing day. I mean come on, Ricardo Miller being the 19th best WR? He will be top 10 by the next evaluation period.
Is Jeremy receiving those offers because of who his father is? Meaning, the coaches know he's been coached up his whole life and is probably very fundamentally sound and the coaches at those programs know they are going to get a decent contributor that won't need a year of instruction. And, perhaps the services are looking at Jeremy and seeing that he is fundamentally sound, but doesn't have a high upside.
I agree that #74 looks really high for a guy with those offers though.
I doubt it. There are plenty of coach's sons out there that don't get plum offers - we've got one on our team (Sheridan). The most likely explanation is that Scout just hasn't evaluated him that much yet. Keep in mind that the services have to evaluate tens of thousands of players per year.
a) Sheridan was hurt for almost his entire senior year, so that's not a great comparison.
b) I know some people get mad at me for saying this, but Jeremy Jackson really isn't that good. I know he has impressive offers, but I will be EXTREMELY surprised if he ever becomes a quality Big Ten starter.
a) At this point in Sheridan's high school career (April of his junior year), he had been healthy. At no point was he ever considered BCS-conference material.
b) At least four high BCS-level programs (including some that rarely recruit the state of Michigan) have offered the kid. Scholarships are precious commodities, and aren't just tossed out on a whim. I'm sorry, but I've got to go with their opinion over yours.
I don't blame you for going with their opinion over mine. I just think they're wrong. We'll find out who's right in a few years...
I respect your opinion, but man I hope you have to eat crow on this one. At the very least, a Avant-like possession guy would be great!
I hope I'm wrong, too. I'd rather be wrong and have a great team.
If the rankings were based solely on offers, you'd have a point.
Given that offer list, Jackson's ranking will most likely go up. His current low ranking probably just means that they don't have that much information on him yet.