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Scott Loeffler to Florida (Possibly)

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3807812

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January 3rd, 2009 at 9:13 PM | Good for Leoffler. He needs (Score:1)
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Good for Leoffler. He needs to get away from the Lions organization before he becomes tainted by all of their losing.

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January 3rd, 2009 at 10:12 PM | That speaks volumes (Score:1)
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towards the culture at Ford Field to go back to the college game. Not that his job is etched in stone at this point...

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Hits the town, he drinks his wages.
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January 4th, 2009 at 12:55 AM | Tim Tebow + Scott Loeffler = (Score:1)
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Tim Tebow + Scott Loeffler = Death, destruction and Tebow going on first day of NFL Draft

eenie meenie miney mo, catch a WR by his toe. if he scores six, let him go

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January 4th, 2009 at 3:03 PM | 3rd rounder now (Score:1)
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With some work he will be the last pick in the second round.

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January 4th, 2009 at 12:57 AM | IMHO (Score:1)
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If Florida is looking at Loeffler, so should we. He will help in their recruiting and bringing along quarterbacks...Loeffler should be back home! But, if he gets the job good for him.

If you have to ask twice it means that you didn't get it the first time.

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January 4th, 2009 at 10:20 AM | I don't get it (Score:1)
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They are looking at him as the O-Coordinator? That would be an interesting change in offensive philosophy. But even if they want him as QB coach, he'd be there at practice scratching his head saying "Wait, a zone-read wha...?"

Not that I loved Rich Rod less, but that I loved Michigan more.

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January 4th, 2009 at 12:39 PM | Uh,I'm pretty sure that (Score:1)
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Uh,
I'm pretty sure that Scott Loeffler is a smart enough guy to figure out the zone-read and other aspects of Urban Meyer's offense. The real question is, how would this affect Denard Robinson's decision? Interesting that Loeffler would be recruiting against us in that situation. His credentials are pretty well established as a coach who can develop QBs and help them become "NFL ready."

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January 4th, 2009 at 2:28 PM | exactly (Score:1)
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Those are my sentiments as well Jay. If we had Loeffler we would be attracting the guys like Pryor, Newsome, Boyd. Because we'd have the professor of Quarterback U. The same guy that was there with Tom Brady, Henne...you guys know the list.

If you have to ask twice it means that you didn't get it the first time.

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January 4th, 2009 at 3:09 PM | Even if that were true (and (Score:1)
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Even if that were true (and I'm skeptical), is he actually the best guy to coach QBs in our new offense? That's what should matter most.

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January 4th, 2009 at 3:44 PM | My understanding is you teach (Score:1)
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My understanding is you teach guys how to pass and make good reads as a QB coach. That's fundamental regardless of offense. When looking at the guys we are recruiting (other than Tate who has had coaching his entire life), most severely lack in fundamentals because of poor H.S. coaching (Newsome) or simply rely on their natural athleticism and instinct rather than mechanics (most H.S. running QBs). This is exactly where Loeffler would excel, turning good athletes into good QBs. This isn't a guarantee that he would, but it would seem so.

Plus, he is a very good recruiter. Tim Tebow cited him as one of the reasons he was looking hard at UM, and countless other QB recruits said one of the main reasons they were considering UM was b/c of him. When you have kids shunning UM because they "want to go pro" or play in a pro-style offense, having a guy like Loeffler on your staff would help tremendously just b/c of the names he was able to put in the NFL. Even if he wasn't the main reason why they went to the NFL, many recruits don't really think about that.

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January 4th, 2009 at 3:58 PM | I don't doubt that he'd do (Score:1)
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I don't doubt that he'd do well at teaching our guys passing mechanics. I am a lot more uncertain at how good he is at teaching them the running aspects of the position in our system. He's a product of the Carr offense, where the only designed running play was a QB sneak.

There are other good QB coaches out there, including the guy we've got right now. He did a pretty good job with Pat White, a 3-star whom no other school offered at QB.

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January 4th, 2009 at 4:26 PM | He coached Pat White for a (Score:1)
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He coached Pat White for a year (2007) where he was already a star in the making for two years prior, and Pat White is possibly one of the worst passers I've ever seen on a successful team.

It's the reads that are coached, not the running. If a coach learns that offense, he can teach those reads. I'm not a genius on this, but fundamentals are the same for QBs in any offense. For the things that are different from the offenses of old UM and new UM can be learned by any coach. Like posters above have stated, Loeffler is smart enough to learn a new offense and teach it...that's what coaches do. All of this is moot b/c he's not coaching here, but my point is he would have been perfect for the type of QBs we are recruiting b/c he would help them best with their weaknesses. Generally, their strengths are running and their weaknesses are passing mechanics. I'd rather have a QB coach who learns RRs offense and has a track record of coaching passers than a QB coach that is just familiar with the offense and doesn't have much of a track record for successful passers. Loeffler's not a magician or anything, but I'll just say Florida's lucky to have him.

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January 6th, 2009 at 5:57 AM | That's an invalid (Score:1)
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That's an invalid comparison... credit for Pat White should at least partially go to Bill Stewart.

When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing. -- Bo Schembechler

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January 4th, 2009 at 3:40 PM | He was a player then a grad (Score:1)
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He was a player then a grad asst. when Brady was here, but he learned under an excellent QB coach in Stan Parrish (new Ball St. coach, and former UM QB coach and later OC). He's more like the asst. professor of QB U.

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January 4th, 2009 at 3:48 PM | Assistant TO (Score:1)
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the Regional Manager

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January 4th, 2009 at 2:40 PM | Watch (Score:1)
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the number of UF quarterback's passes get knocked down at the line of scrimmage go up exponentially.

 "Runnnn!!! get to da choppa"

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January 4th, 2009 at 3:22 PM | lawl (Score:1)
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lawl

...and by that, I mean helter-skelter, willy-nilly and putt-putt!

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