Ryan to MLB and Other People Doing Other Things: What it All Means Comment Count

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I'm going to skip the user-generated content column, since there wasn't very much of it this week, and talk about the position swaps. The top two diaries at right are new this week.

Something completely different. Brady Hoke attended the Detroit alumni association's annual event yesterday and went on WTKA this morning, leaking out some position changes and player updates, as well as explaining the thinking behind the defensive position coach shakeup. News via nickbob:

Jake Ryan moving to MIKE

Chris Bryant to take medical

Magnuson will miss "most" of spring, will do some individual stuff, surgery went well

Tuley-Tillman had hand surgery

Drake Johnson and Darboh are limited and working their way back

Some other odds and ends related to the D coaching moves

Also Taco Charlton will be moving from WDE to SDE. Let's discuss.

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More Ryan is a good thing. [Fuller]
Moving Ryan. This, like the coaching changes, is a response to college football going mostly spread. Hoke said that Ohio State effectively neutralized Ryan against the run by spreading out, thus moving him out of the box. Here's your matchups for strongside linebackers on Michigan's 2014 schedule:
  • Vs tight end/manball: MSU, Minnesota, PSU*
  • Vs slot receiver, spread-to-run: App State, Utah, Ohio State
  • Vs slot receiver, spread-to-pass: ND, Miami(NTM), Maryland, Indiana, NW'ern

The * for PSU is because Franklin's offense is a bit of a hybrid; when adapted to Penn State's current roster I'm guessing it ends up a zone-blocked, tight-end-heavy passing offense that moves at warp speed. Northwestern will be a lot more passy with Trevor Siemian instead of Colter. Only two games will heavily feature a SAM taking on tight end blocks.

Upside: anyone who's watched Te'o or Bullough against us in recent years can attest how much of a difference a great middle linebacker can make. The downgrade from Demens to last year's linebackers in deep zone coverage was probably the defense's biggest liability, and Ryan to date has been a plus zone defender.

Downsides: SAM just went from Michigan's strongest position on defense to a huge question mark, since Cam Gordon graduated and Beyer was moved to SDE, leaving just unheralded Spur (i.e. safety)-like object Allen Gant and neophytes.

The obvious thing would be for Beyer to switch back, though Hoke told Sam Webb that isn't happening. Rather James Ross may swap to SAM, and Morgan/Bolden/Gedeon will compete/rotate at WILL and backup MIKE. Weight Watch 2014 just became how big will James Ross be watch. If Ross seizes the position this spring I think things will work out fine, though this has to be a comedown from our hype going into last year. McCray or one of the freshmen could factor in.

The other downside is the most consistent generator of pass rush is no longer on the pass rush.

[Jump: moving Taco, OL damage, coach position switches]

Moving Taco. Clark and Ojemudia to the backfield, please. Lawrence Marshall is now the third and last WDE on the roster, though if the coaches continue to use the SAMs as rush ends in the nickel that is mitigated. Between Charlton and Beyer the SDE position just got an upgrade in the pass rush.

OL damage: bad. The injuries to Tuley-Tillman and Magnuson are both seemingly minor things that I will tell you right now I plan to use all year as we complain about the state of the tackles. Michigan lost two NFL draft picks at tackle from an offensive line that performed worse than the 2010 secondary. This was an important spring for their development, for getting used to Nussmeier, and for getting a new-built offensive line to gel. Mags played guard last year and was expected to use this spring and fall to learn the intricacies of left tackle; LTT is one of those bodies you hope to develop into Long/Lewan.

Once again, it's doubtful there will be enough hale OL to field two teams for a spring scrimmage.

Bryant's shoulder was what's been holding him back. He gave it a go last year but any job he won would be tenuous depending on how well that held up. Losing one more of their precious few upperclassman linemen isn't a good thing but this was mostly expected.

Position 2013 2014
Nose Hoke Smith
3-Tech Mattison Smith
5-Tech Mattison Smith
WDE Manning Smith
SAM Manning Mattison
MIKE Smith Mattison
WILL Smith Mattison
SS Mallory Mallory
FS Mallory Mallory
BCB Mallory Manning
FCB Mallory Manning
Nickel Mallory Manning

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Position Coach Changes. The coaching changes by defensive position are at right. Hoke explained his reasoning in yesterday's press release:

"Greg and I met and felt this was the best for everyone, including him and his ability to coach a position group and run a defense from the middle.

When you look at Mark's experience on the defensive line, then being able to split the secondary, where you have five positions and 20-plus guys, and with the way offense and passing has changed in college football, I think it balances our staff on that side of the ball."

He reiterated to Sam that this is mostly about getting more coaching in the secondary. Given they were in a nickel about half of the time last year, Mallory was effectively in charge of 4.5/11 positions on the field. That wasn't such a big deal when the secondary had virtual coach Jordan Kovacs and the coaches were raiding the maternity ward for linebackers and DL. With Wilson and Thomas your prohibitive leaders for the safety jobs more coaching is very welcome. 

Mattison handling the linebackers is billed as a way for him to have a better feel for who should blitz and who should cover as he's calling the defense. Given Ryan's move and no more Jibreel Black, it's possible Michigan intends to have its DTs focus more on eating rather than beating blocks, while its interior rush comes from blitzing linebackers more often.

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Roy Manning has experience jamming and rerouting tight ends. [photo from my file of stuff grabbed from MGoBlue.com in the early 'aughts]

Can lifelong linebacker Roy Manning coach cornerbacks? All I've got on that is a bunch of guys who played with him, most of them cornerbacks, who think he's a future BCS head coach, plus a coaching resume as a generalist. As a grad assistant at Cincy and Michigan he handled film breakdown and generally helped with the defensive staff. He was running backs coach in his second Cincy stint.

With all the young cornerbacks the idea of someone trying to learn on the job is less than squishy. Cornerback is nearer the talent end of the needs-talent-or-experience spectrum. But when we brought that up to Todd Howard at the Chicago event last November he said that coverage is talent but jamming technique is a learned skill. That is exactly the skill they need if the goal is to move toward an MSU/Seahawks style of defense.

I'm a bit peeved, given these changes, that Michigan didn't pursue Larry Johnson Sr., Penn State's legendary DL coach who landed at Ohio State. Passing on that opportunity made sense if Hoke and Mattison themselves were coaching Michigan's defensive line, not so much if it's a spot to land the LB coach.

Comments

The Geek

February 21st, 2014 at 2:45 PM ^

I think the linebackers will excel under Coach Mattison. Hope they produce like his 2008 Baltimore Ravens squad. A little concerned about Smith with the DL, but they are experienced and should be Ok. Roy Manning looks downright feroucious in that archive photo... I mean goddamn!

 

Maizenblueball

February 21st, 2014 at 3:07 PM ^

I actually like the move of Jake Ryan to MLB.  My biggest concern is if our D-line can eat up enough blockers to allow Jake to move freely and make plays, without having a bunch of O-linemen in his face.

I love the thought of sending Jake on A gap blitzes up the middle.

dragonchild

February 21st, 2014 at 4:26 PM ^

I think you saw the same things the coaches did but are looking at it too hindsight-y.  We all saw the LBs eat blocks because of our undersized D-line, but I don't think the coaches moved Ryan to MLB for him to do the same.  He's the one linebacker we have who can beat a block.  Moving Ryan to MLB takes pressure OFF the D-line.

To kind of dumb down that over-vs.-under exchange upthread, with this move "strong side linebacker" becomes a bit of a misnomer.  Under last year's scheme, the SAM had a responsibility to hold the edge; Ryan was great at that (and even caused havoc at times from the edge), but the problem was that there really wasn't any way to get to the ball without blitzing.  The last two years Mattison tried to implement a disciplined, no-weak-spots "beat your man" concept that, unfortunately, the young defense wasn't up to the task.  The traditional 4-3 concept is for the DTs to get some interior push while the DEs make plays but the D-line was too small to execute that.  As an offense, if you take Jake Ryan out of the play by spreading, you now have all day to set up because the D-line takes forever.

It's not a huge overhaul, but I see a timing element to it.  Basically the risk is that teams will look at Ross and MANBALL to that side, but it's not like Mattison sticks with one formation all game.  This is an anti-spread look where Ross is more expected to chase the ball like a retriever than eat a TE, or maybe cover a slot or jump a screen.  Jake Ryan is in a better position to get to the ball, but now he HAS to get to the ball because Ross can't hold the edge as well as Jake Ryan.

We'll see how it works.

Maizenblueball

February 21st, 2014 at 7:57 PM ^

you are saying about Jake Ryan being the one LB who can consistently beat a block, and I agree, that's one of the reasons I like the move to MLB.  Ryan seems to be stronger and more stout than the other LB's, and more likely to beat a block.  Having said that, if we can't get a consistent push off the D-Line this year, it's going to be tough sledding again.  No LB, even JMFR, can consistently make plays when the DLinemen in front of you are getting pushed back into your lap every play.

I really hope Pipkins is getting healthy.

I dumped the Dope

February 21st, 2014 at 4:27 PM ^

JMFR seems like a lot more of an immovable object in the middle.  Recall Ross and Morgan both got blown up in the Iowa game (not saying their fault, it just happened, but Iowa's going to bring some big boys at you play after play...i realize no Iowa this year but using it for reference).  Morgan has had some concussion problems if I recall correctly and he might not be up to all the pounding for the whole season.  Ryan is used to taking on bigger men at the LOS and so I'd be happy to see him get to meet Weisman a twenty-few times on a Saturday.  Also what I see is that Jake Ryan pursues the ball anywhere on the field, better than almost anyone else.  I think Mattison said, when the other players start seeing that, suddenly there are gangs of tacklers.  Feel like Gedeon is the next MLB.

So there are going to be power teams and spread teams, seemed like we didn't do either one super stingy last year.  Indiana lit us up, Iowa lit us up.  Ohio lit us up with both running Hyde and spreading for Miller.

Seemed like we kept hammering on pass rush last year and while that improved its not like it changed the game.  Hope Frank Clark can make another incremental improvement, maybe Clark and Taco on opposite sides wreaking havoc.  Like that Mattison is coaching LBs since he's got a lot more potential tools to add tricks and stunts, delayed blitzes.

I'm starting to worry about Drake Harris, think his injury was a lot more serious than reported...hope he can redshirt this year despite the early enrollment and get back to 100%.  Really want to see Darboh on the field this year in good health too.  Just feel like he's going to make a big difference when he gets on the field.  Nobody has seen his film yet so that can be a way to make a splash if nobody is planning for him to be out there.

wayneandgarth

February 21st, 2014 at 7:47 PM ^

I told my wife that Mich is moving Jake Ryan to middle linebacker. She just said"hmm.... Is that going to solve all their problems?" I chucked and said probably not.

I love the simple, direct observations.

west2

February 22nd, 2014 at 1:08 PM ^

these changes appear to be positive moves to improve on last years effort.  Its just so improbable to think that M will go 3-5 in the conference again, albeit all of the previously mentioned shortcomings.  Their 2014 schedule against Minny, Rutgers, PS, Sparty, Indy, NW, Maryland and Bucky even under the most dismal of predictions they should win 5-6 of those games and 3 out of 4 nonconf games.  With one upset you are flirting with 10 wins.  Just cannot see another season like this last one...I guess the first game against App State will set the tone!

uminks

February 22nd, 2014 at 10:43 PM ^

I suppose it is possible to win 9 or 10. However, the OL just got younger. The defense is small up front and the secondary will need to cover better. I just don't see them winning on the road against ND, MSU and OSU. I'm sure there will be an upset or two as well. I think 8-4 is just about right. The high side will be 9-3 if they can upset one of the big road games. 7-5 is still possible, especially if they get pushed around by PSU. Hoke's recruits better start producing in '15 (I'm talking 10 wins and a win against MSU or OSU), if not Hoke is finished here as HC.

Eye of the Tiger

February 23rd, 2014 at 11:24 AM ^

...probably deserved its 7-5 record (in the set schedule), but was 11 pts from being 10-2 and 7 pts from being 5-7. That is in part due to internal factors, but it also reflects the state of our competition--with the exception of MSU and Ohio, more "iffy" than "scary." This contrasts to 2012, when we pretty much beat everyone we were supposed to beat and lost to everyone we were supposed to lose to (Nebraska excepted).

2014 looks to be another high-variance year where there are a lot of iffy games (more than in 2013, actually), but none that look as scary as MSU or Ohio did last year. 8 or 9 wins would be a solid prediction, but, really, the range of plausible outcomes is quite wide. 

jwendt

February 24th, 2014 at 9:47 AM ^

Moving Ryan to MLB scares me.  Is he still going to be the disruptive player at MLB that he was outside?  I've always felt like he was at his best making plays in spce that nobody thought a guy his size could make.  When you put him @ MLB, he's going to be dealing with a lot more traffic.  That doesn't mean he can't do it - he might be great at it, but until we see it, we don't know.

We do know that the winner of the SAM position will be a downgrade from what Ryan brought.  So, Ryan really needs to be a top notch Mike for this to make sense.

All that said - the coaches see a heck of a lot more of him that we do, so the must see something.