Ryan Hayes Commits To Michigan Comment Count

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Michigan's picked up their second in-state tackle in a few days here:

Traverse City (Mich.) West Top247 offensive tackle/tight end Ryan Hayes tells 247Sports he has committed to Michigan.

Hayes also strongly considered opportunities from Notre Dame and Michigan State among others.

"It just felt right from my first visit and I just loved everything about it there," Hayes added.

Like Jalen Mayfield, Hayes is a Greg Frey special delivery: an athletic frame to heap muscle on until 300 pounds is achieved and you've unlocked Taylor Lewan 2.0. Hayes is the #3 player in the state on the composite and #205 player overall; he could be upwardly mobile on those in-state rankings since Marquan McCall just told Land of Ten that his Kentucky commitment was more or less because everyone else stopped calling.

Hayes is a four-star on three sites, with Rivals currently lagging. Ace will have a hello post in the near future.

Comments

BrownViper

May 27th, 2017 at 9:27 PM ^

goes into grades than pure intelligence. What was his support network like? Structured time at home, access to a computer or other resources, lack of in school support often found in public schools (I work at one), role models, socializing, social/class bias of standardized tests, girlfriends, poor time management, typical other high school stuff. Don't be so quick to jump to conclusions about a child's intelligence based on a gpa and standardized test scores. Given the academics supports available to athletes, I'm sure he would have been fine.

bronxblue

May 27th, 2017 at 11:57 PM ^

I think you get downgraded if there is a legit concern you won't qualify, since you then have to go the JuCo route and might have trouble sticking on a roster. That said, in this case it also sounds like some of these rankings are fluid and guys will move up or down based on lots of factors, not just a perceived issue with academics. There doesn't seem to be some clear-cut elite talent like, say, DPJ last year.

Frank Chuck

May 29th, 2017 at 7:34 PM ^

1. To upgrade the position group with players who can handle speed rushers. FSU's athletic DL embarrassed our OL in the Orange Bowl. It's no surprise not a single player from that upperclassmen-laden OL was drafted.

2. Looking forward, we want athletic lineman for the hybrid offense we will run. We need to be equally dominant at run blocking as pass blocking. Athleticism raises the ceiling of a player and allows them to be good at both.

xtramelanin

May 28th, 2017 at 7:06 AM ^

kid which was the call of the question and obviously a fan favorite who became a schollie player.   good get with the khoury name, i was vapor locking on other names.  jake fisher was the one who i think went to oregon and was very good.  

Maizen

May 27th, 2017 at 9:53 PM ^

Mayfield and Hayes are the exact same size guys like Taylor Lewan, Jacob Fisher, and Jason Spriggs were in high school. Not coincidentally all those guys were Greg Frey recruits. I wouldn't hold my breath on rivals giving either of these guys 4 stars because Helmholdt is terrible. Him dying on the Chris Wormley is a 3 star was the last straw for me. That aside, these are two enormous pick ups. With 2018 OL recruiting all but wrapped up might be a good time to start working on Devonte Dobbs.

Magnus

May 30th, 2017 at 7:59 AM ^

In fairness to Rivals, they don't update those lists very often. To some extent, I think 247 has "ruined" this type of thing for other sites. 247 updates their lists constantly, to the point that I stopped tracking the updates. In the time since Rivals has updated that top 25 list, 247 has probably updated it 5 times.

TheReal_GR3

May 27th, 2017 at 9:58 PM ^

I have to say I was pretty disappointed with his film. 

I don't want to overstate it. His height and length is awesome. When he hits people they move. He moves well and seems to hit targets on the move well. 

What disappointed me is he is a waist bender and he doesn't appear to naturally block with his hands, instead throwing his shoulder and momentum into people. That is highly troubling. Being a waist bender is not usually something you can coach out of players, kind of like a throwing motion or shooting motion you can only change so much on most players. 

I don't care about his weight. 

I'll be really interested to see him in some pass block sets as there wasn't much of that on his junior tape. 

Magnus

May 28th, 2017 at 6:42 AM ^

I don't think he's a waist-bender at all, and I don't think Greg Frey would have recruited him if he was.

But as for the shoulder blocking and waist bending, he plays in a Dead-T offense that encourages shoulder blocking, and shoulder blocking requires you to stay low. That's why you see a lot of those teams practice their blocking by using chutes, whereas zone blocking teams don't generally use chutes as much.

I agree that he uses his shoulder to block, but he also bends his knees and maintains good power angles throughout. There's definitely technique work to be done, but this is the same exact offense (IIRC) that produced Jake Fisher at Oregon. It's not a death knell for his career to be playing in this type of offense and doing what his high school coach asks of him.

TheReal_GR3

May 28th, 2017 at 12:56 PM ^

ok. I'll take that. One reason I said I'd like to see more film. I agree on the knee bend. That does appear to be strong, part of the reason he is able to block on the move and drive his man on contact. My concern came in when I see his shoulders so far out in front of his feet as often as I do. Also since shoulder blocking is encouraged it makes it so you can't judge his ability to punch or his hand strength when he locks onto someone. 

I also agree with your other statements about this being the type of guy you want with how he moves and the cut of his body. With this height I will assume he has long arms. 

He takes some good projection because he doesn't do things currently that he will need to do at Michigan. 

Grey Frey has proven he sees talent that other programs do not see. I wasn't questioning Frey as much as saying I thought I'd be more impressed by his film. 

The Oracle

May 27th, 2017 at 10:05 PM ^

I've always. Wondered why so many of these guys look smaller in these photos than they actually are.

dragonchild

May 30th, 2017 at 7:56 AM ^

6'7" frames can carry a LOT of weight.  One of my HS D&D buddies was a nose tackle at 6'7" and he'd bounce around between 235 and 285 (he was also a wrestler) and I never noticed any change.  I'm sure it made a difference to whomever he hit, but he was just so huge, give or take 25 pounds just didn't look like very much.

But also, when people see 250-, 300-pound athletes they generally expect an Arnold Schwarzenegger build, I think.  But bodybuilders explicitly go for an inverted triangle shape, all pecs and delts and abs.  You certainly need a lot of upper body strength to be a lineman, but they drive forward with their legs and butts, which can pack on far more weight than the top.

S.G. Rice

May 28th, 2017 at 10:27 AM ^

That is one skinny dude for someone who's supposed to be 250.  Because all commit weight analysis is positive, that means he's got a huge frame with lots of room to pack on the pounds.  Welcome young fella.

TESOE

May 30th, 2017 at 2:34 AM ^

Significant that he is a baseball talent.  Anyone can be 300lbs (well not everyone but it doesn't take talent for some.)

We missed a #1 NFL draft pick in Fisher (most everyone did), this is that make up call.

If he tops out at 280... he will find a job - assuming he can't hit a B1G curve ball.  I like our chances.  

You get what you pay for in the SEC.  You get what you work for here.  I like this one.  

He wears Patagucci as well...quality first.