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February 13th, 2009 at 10:34 PM | Screw off chitown (Score:1)
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You deleted this same thread when I posted it earlier--no doubt to flex your virtual muscles. OOOOHHH...big man on mgoblog has the power to delete threads. We all envy you. Tell us more about how hard your "job" is and how sick you are of deleting threads. We're all waiting with bated breath....retard.

If you're going to delete threads here, delete "OT - The Wire or the Shield?" or "Way Way OT - Joaquin Phoenix/David Letterman." These have nothing to do with Michigan sports. If I wanted to discuss Joaquin Phoenix's appearance on Letterman, I'd cut my balls off and surf over to TMZ.com. The reason people come to post here in the first place is to discuss Michigan sports, especially Michigan football. Rumors are a part of these discussions. Numerous legitimate stories begin as rumors from unnamed sources. Such may be the case here, where my original thread sought to substantiate the rumor about Threet leaving the program. Had you not let your inner power-hungry high school hall monitor get the best of you, maybe you wouldn't be so "sick of deleting these threads."

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February 13th, 2009 at 11:03 PM | Really ? OT topics have (Score:1)
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Really ? OT topics have nothing to do with Michigan sports? I thought it meant extra Michigan sportsy. Maybe if you paid attention you would notice the explanation for why. Brian does the same thing. This site is not for unsubstantiated rumor mongering. Brian even started having a problem with The Knowledge for similar reasons. Don't flip out. Especially when you seem to not even the slightest of what has already been said by a dozen people here. This stuff does not fly on these boards. Whine and bitch about it some more. Mlive is calling you.

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February 13th, 2009 at 11:56 PM | Hey you 2, I think you both (Score:1)
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Hey you 2, I think you both need a timeout. One more word out of either of you and I'm coming down there. Or something like that anyway. GO BLUE!!!!!!!!!!

Oh how I hate Ohio State

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February 13th, 2009 at 11:34 PM | I don't think you understand (Score:1)
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There is a difference between off-topic and fun, and mlive-esque, sourceless, and baseless rumor mongering.

www.get2formaizenblue.blogspot.com

For all of your obscure college wrestling blog needs

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February 14th, 2009 at 12:46 AM | The other thing you don't understand (Score:1)
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Brian left people in charge of his site, including instructions on the sorts of things he doesn't want to see. OT does not bother him -- there are tons of OT threads dating back to the dawn of time.

Porn, general bad taste and ad hominem attacks, and baseless rumor-mongering bother him. He deletes these things all the time. He would want them deleted in his absence. Also, some of these guys have had, and used, this power all along.

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February 14th, 2009 at 12:57 AM | but FREE SPEECH!!!111! (Score:1)
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I can say and do whatever I want! It's in the Constitution!

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February 14th, 2009 at 5:12 AM | Well!?! (Score:1)
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When we live a cuntry where they can use the context of a movie you stared in 30 years ago in a trial to get you 9 months. Does that amendment have addendum s to it now? How was that for OT?

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February 14th, 2009 at 10:43 AM | You're right (Score:1)
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I didn't realize there was a difference until you pointed it out. It's truly a complex distinction, but I'm glad you've shown me the light.

Back in reality...

My original post on this topic stated that *several* sources were reporting that Threet was considering transferring. One of those sources was mlive, which I quoted in the post. A second source was scout.com's Tom Beaver. A third source was a friend inside the program.

This was not "sourceless," "baseless rumor mongering." On the contrary, it was a legitimate issue that was being reported by several people.

Really, I don't think you understand. There is a difference between "Joe Quarterback is a hermaphrodite who scores with tight ends," which would almost certainly be sourceless, baseless rumor mongering, and "***SEVERAL*** sources are claiming that Joe Quarterback is considering leaving the program," which would be an issue ripe for discussion on this board.

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February 14th, 2009 at 11:03 AM | You don't seem to know the (Score:1)
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You don't seem to know the difference.

I'm pretty sure those aren't sources, when all of them say, we've heard someone say it. Try to use that lame shit in court. Get your ass locked up. I can write on my blog that I don't have that I heard from people close to the program that Threet is transferring. Oh wait that doesn't mean anything, and I'm no more right. When you believe everything you read, that's called gullible.

Don't read the onion.

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February 14th, 2009 at 11:57 AM | I'm glad you're only "pretty sure" (Score:1)
marlon
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because that means you won't be entirely surprised when I inform you that you're wrong.

Even if you disregard mlive, I had read/heard from two people that Threet was considering transferring. One was Tom Beaver on scout.com, whose job it is to report on the behind-the-scenes happenings on the football team. Beaver has numerous contacts inside the program, and his reports are often based on first-hand knowledge. Moreover, Beaver's posts on scout.com are often the bases for posts on this board, and they are considered credible. The second person was a friend inside the football program, who had heard the rumor from a team member.

This is a message board, folks. It's not the AP or the NYT. To the extent that this message board requires credible sources, mine unquestionably met the standard.

Finally, this isn't a courtroom and you're (probably) not a lawyer. If, on some off chance, you are, you must have gone to a third tier toilet, because otherwise you'd know that nobody gets their "ass locked up" for using "lame shit" in court. That's some TTT shit.

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February 14th, 2009 at 11:06 AM | You're right (Score:1)
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Your well reasoned and rational post should have been taken seriously and should have been the source of serious deliberation and debate.

Back in reality...

You posted an ad hominem filled, douchbag post and it deserved to be dismissed lightly.

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February 14th, 2009 at 11:59 AM | Your back to reality machine must be broken (Score:1)
marlon
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My original post contained no ad hominem attacks, nor did it contain any douchebaggery. It simply asked about the truth to the Threet rumor.

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February 14th, 2009 at 12:06 PM | Yeah, but (Score:1)
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The one I'm responding to was filled with ad hominem attacks and was the poster-child post for douchebaggery. Congratulations.

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February 14th, 2009 at 12:17 PM | Good grief (Score:1)
marlon
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The ACTUAL post YOU RESPONDED TO ("My original post on this topic stated that *several* sources were reporting...") contained no ad hominem attacks or douchebaggery. Moreover, the post I was complaining about (i.e., my original post) also contained no ad hominem attacks or douchebaggery. Christ.

You're welcome.

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February 14th, 2009 at 12:22 PM | Let us relive them.... (Score:1)
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It starts with an illuminating title, "Screw off chitown"

It then goes into 3rd grade land with, "OOOOHHH...big man on mgoblog has the power to delete threads." Nice.

We then get a classic, calling someone a "retard"

Then, after an inexplicable reference to cutting off your own balls, we get a lame attempt at psychoanalysis with, "Had you not let your inner power-hungry high school hall monitor get the best of you..."

Good grief, indeed.

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February 14th, 2009 at 12:28 PM | This is a message board that (Score:1)
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This is a message board that doesn't allow bullshit rumor mongering. End of story. They've said it before, everyone but brilliant you seems to know that. Stop trying to justify a deleted thread when you were being an idiot. Rules set forth. Again, Mlive is calling. Your incessant whiny bitching about your poor thread being deleted was ridiculous. What did you lose points for losing a thread ?

Next time a cop pulls me over for speeding. I'm going to say WTF, Germany lets me do it, you're an asshole. Then I'm going to kick him in the teeth and drive off.

I agree with PA Blue. Full of douchebaggery.

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February 14th, 2009 at 2:19 PM | Yes, (Score:1)
marlon
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because, clearly, the rumor about Threet transferring has proven to be nothing more than "bullshit rumor mongering."

Did you go to Cooley or Wayne State for law school? Your attempts at logic an analogy lead me to believe the former, but one never knows.

EDIT TO ADD:

I don't deny the douchebaggery of my second post on this topic (my first post in this particular thread). I was miffed that chitown deleted what was a legitimate thread about a legitimate rumor, then allows what was essentially the same thread to remain, while complaining about getting "tired" of deleting the Threet threads. Maybe he or she shouldn't have deleted the original Threet thread in the first place.

To the extent that rumors are not appropriate here, it is my understanding that only those that are baseless are prohibited. The information on Threet transferring WAS NOT, and HAS NOT proven to be, baseless. That is the crux of my complaint. Chitown played big man on campus and decided, prematurely and without apparently doing any research of his own, that my thread on Threet was baseless. He was wrong when he did it, and, as more and more people continue to substantiate the story, my assertion of his incompetence is validated.

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February 14th, 2009 at 2:28 PM | Chitown did what he thought (Score:1)
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Chitown did what he thought was appropriate. You said yourself, it has proven to be true. You can't argue that. It has been proven to be true, not by what you posted or wrote, but actually substantiated. We have to look at this at the time it was posted and came out. It was rumor mongering. It should have been deleted. A million other baseless rumors that weren't proven to be true have started the same way. The mods are just supposed to assume you're correct? Give it a break.

And of course my analogies are dumb and off the wall, they're made to highlight the ridiculous nature of your argument. You're using things that happened now, that didn't exist at the time of the happening. Get over the law analogy.

If you really want to go the internet route of insulting someone go after my grammar or spelling because I'm sure I have not come anywhere close to getting things right. Then call me a 15 year old queerfag. I'm going to guess there are lawyers that did go to those colleges at one point or another who think what you said is probably pretty dumb.

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February 14th, 2009 at 2:36 PM | When the rumor is confined to (Score:0)
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When the rumor is confined to a deleted post on MLive, it is, in my opinion, "baseless" at that time. Baseless rumors are something that the proprietor of the site would prefer to avoid.

I'm not perfect, and it seems this rumor has grown some legs. That doesn't mean that I did the wrong thing in deleting it - at the time, an MLive post isn't "substantiation".

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February 14th, 2009 at 3:31 PM | At the time I posted (Score:1)
marlon
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the stuff on Threet transferring had not been deleted from mlive. Even if it had been deleted, however, I explicitly stated in my post that *several* sources were reporting the information. Thus, the rumor was not "confined to a deleted post on mlive"; there were two other sources from which I'd gotten the information, both which I've detailed in my posts above.

My gripe is essentially this: If you had a real issue with the credibility of the rumor, why not demand further proof of its legitimacy before deleting it? I understand that you're supposed to moderate the content here, and I have no problem with that, but the manner in which you summarily dismissed my original post as "baseless" seemed unfair and aroused my ire.

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February 14th, 2009 at 4:12 PM | Oh pobresito, is somebody's (Score:1)
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Oh pobresito, is somebody's feelings hurt? Stop whining, as it's nothing going to solve or change anything. Time to move on.

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February 14th, 2009 at 4:53 PM | A question (Score:1)
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Are you upset that the post was deleted, or are you upset because now the post by the great "marlon" won't be archived forever for all to see your brilliant reporting?

great and omniscient Grand Poobah of the WLA

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February 14th, 2009 at 5:17 PM | If you had better sources (Score:0)
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If you had better sources than an MLive post you didn't even link to, you were free to put them in the post. It's not poker - I don't assume you're hiding something.

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February 14th, 2009 at 6:48 PM | You're right. (Score:1)
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I was free to list my other sources in the original post. That being said, I didn't do so because I wasn't aware that the post-police would be deleting a perfectly normal topic on the grounds that it was "baseless rumor mongering." If you had bothered to ask what my other sources were (remember, I wrote that *several* sources were reporting the Threet transfer rumor), I would have gladly provided them.

If there is an official set of rules concerning what content is prohibited on this message board, I haven't seen it. While I'd never suggest that the powers-that-be at this site don't have plenary power to delete any thread they choose, the goal here appears to be the facilitation of open discussion on Michigan sports topics. If that's really the case, then, while baseless rumor mongering should be discouraged, legitimate posts on relevant topics should not be.

Clearly, I broke some unwritten rule when I didn't provide the names of my other sources. Knowing what I know now, I'll do so if I post in the future. I'd hope that the moderators, knowing what they know now, will henceforth err on the side of caution and ask for additional proof if they think a post crosses the line into rumor mongering territory.

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February 14th, 2009 at 7:24 PM | Brian doesn't want trolling. (Score:0)
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Brian doesn't want trolling. The number of times someone has come here and posted "Donovan Warren is gone" or "Darryl Stonum is gone" while citing numerous unlinked sources are more than I care to remember. That's trolling.

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February 14th, 2009 at 7:29 PM | *hand raised* (Score:1)
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Raise your hand if you already knew this and didn't have to have it explained by 50 different people, and you still you think you've been wronged for having an amazing poll. Probably because everyone is jealous.

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February 14th, 2009 at 9:08 PM | Let's be precise. (Score:1)
marlon
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I was not trolling. So, your response to my post is inappropriate.

A troll, as defined by Wikipedia, is one who "posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the intention of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion." Under this definition, a post about Threet transferring does not constitute trolling.

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February 14th, 2009 at 10:25 PM | Let's be precise: as an (Score:0)
chitownblue (not verified)

Let's be precise: when someone posts a rumor that, on it's face seems unlikely, and doesn't link to source material despite numerous commenters asking for a link (you may not have seen these), it looks likes a troll.

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February 14th, 2009 at 10:34 PM | You're defending yourself (Score:1)
Calvin
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You're defending yourself marlon as though certain bits of knowledge were already known to us. What chitown just posted, and my comment earlier about how the rumor had not been substantiated. Therefore it would look as though it was rumor mongering regardless of the fact it seems to be playing out this way now. The point was it turns out you had a point, but we could not have known that at the time with no evidence and no prior history. This happens a millions times, this same scenario exactly, and nothing comes of it.

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February 14th, 2009 at 3:19 PM | Thanks (Score:1)
PA Blue
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Thanks for owning up to your "douchebaggery" marlon, though it would have seemed a bit more sincere had it not been added to a post where you, again, throw out veiled ad hominem attacks. Oh well.

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February 14th, 2009 at 1:59 AM | Hmmmmm... (Score:1)
Tater
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I would prefer that Threet stay one more year for depth, but I still think his best move would be to transfer home to Adrian College, play a lot more, and get a degree there.

If they still even have a football team, that is.....

 

 

 

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February 14th, 2009 at 3:24 PM | Marlon, these smart boys are (Score:1)
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Marlon, these smart boys are one step up from M-Live. They're hyper sensitive about "their" site and team. They also think Ricky Powers played a couple of lifetimes ago.

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February 14th, 2009 at 5:30 PM | RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE! Get me (Score:1)
ThaLastProphet
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RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE! Get me another scotch Ethel! Grumble...

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February 14th, 2009 at 5:59 PM | Dickhead (I mean marlon), my (Score:1)
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Dickhead (I mean marlon), my post was topical and appropriately titled. I have nice balls, your momma told me so as I tea bagged her!

Go back to state you whining beeotch!

Proud To Be An American But Even Prouder To Be A Wolverine!

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February 14th, 2009 at 7:03 PM | you know it's bad when *I* say this (Score:1)
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This thread got really dumb.

*yawn*

Twitter - Recruiting Update: May 20

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February 14th, 2009 at 8:34 PM | My bad (Score:1)
emmekel
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If I knew this post would generate so much hate, I wouldn't have posted. I thought the thread would be about how much this might affect the team. Hopefully he stays and this is just a bullshit rumor. I promise to never ever post a rumor thread again and I pray that the mgoblog gods can forgive me. GO BLUE!!!!! Beat NW tommorah!!!!!!!!

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