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Roundtable 4.1: Michigan Is Georgia (Not That Georgia)

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BlogPoll roundtablin’ debuts at Hey Jenny Slater this year.

1. In his "visiting lecturers" series posted on Every Day Should Be Saturday over the past few months, Orson Swindle asked each participant to explain which country, during which historical period, their team most resembles. Let's bring everything up to the present day and ponder: Which current sovereign nation is your team? Or to look at it another way, how does your team fit into the "world" of college football?

Like Georgia, Michigan has flung off the shackles of a backwards, stagnant system and now looks to modernize with the help of a controversial leader. However, there are problems, mostly in the form of red-clad douchebags who are either in tanks or just plain tank-sized.

russian-tanks wells

Throw in some whiny breakaway republics trying to defect to the red-clad douchebags and a war that looks like it’s going to go very poorly over the next few months and voila.

2. Every preseason roundup has to have some discussion of who's overrated, but let's go beyond that. Which team do you think is poised to crap the bed in the biggest way this season relative to high expectations, and which game do you think will begin their slide into ignominy?

Even though I overrated them, the answer here is obviously Clemson, because it’s always Clemson. 50-50 they roll into Wake at midseason 5-0 and implode spectacularly.

The other answer is West Virginia, now under the direction of Super Friendly Smiling Special Teams Coach “Stew,” who reminds everyone of super nice player coaches and utter failure Bobby Williams, similarly promoted from position coach to head coach after an emotional bowl win despite the fact he was tabbed the interim coach specifically because there was no chance anyone would even think about hiring him in a spasm of sentiment and hope.

Also, many people are focusing exclusively on White and Devine and ignore West Virginia’s secretly excellent defense—7th in yardage last year. Unfortunately for WVU, they lose seven starters off that defense. Also also, the nonconference schedule steps up considerably with games against Colorado and Auburn. Also also also, Mike Barwis doesn’t live here anymore.

In the context of this question, the prediction is that the Auburn game starts a slide which sees WVU drop from A-list national title contender to Gator bowl participant.

3. On the flip side of that coin, which team do you think is going to burst out of nowhere to become 2008's biggest overachiever -- this year's version of Kansas '07, as it were -- and what's going to be the big upset that makes us all finally sit up and take notice of them?

Always look for a team with an awful schedule for this question. Also look for a team on the upswing in talent level… so… Pitt? Wannstedt has recruited very well and finally has a star in LeSean McCoy. The noncon is actually pretty decent, with two tomato cans, Navy, Iowa, and Notre Dame, but all of those are winnable. Then it’s the Big East.

4. Here's an "I'll hang up and listen" question. I put Ohio State and Oklahoma #1 and #2, respectively, despite their recent high-profile BCS face-plants. Where did you rank those two teams, and did those BCS issues have anything to do with it?

Ohio State was #1 on my ballot, so obviously the face plants didn’t dissuade me. People forget that last year Ohio State was supposed to be rebuilding. Okay, they lost to a veteran, talent-laden LSU team. BFD. They return virtually their entire two deep.

I ranked Oklahoma high up, too, because it’s just one game, and that against the geniuses now running Michigan’s offense schwing.

5. Last season was a statistical outlier in countless ways, not the least of which was the fact that we ended up with a two-loss team as national champion. Do you think anyone plays a strong enough schedule to get MNC consideration as a two-loss team this year? Conversely, do you see anybody managing to sail into the national-championship game undefeated?

Maybe Georgia, since their schedule has been hyped up so much in the preseason and they’ve got an actual nonconference road game against an opponent that has some cachet (Arizona State), but they’d have to smoke ASU like LSU smoked Virginia Tech, and then pray. LSU wasn’t picked over any reasonable one-loss teams despite the schedule and the OT losses.

If Ohio State beats USC they’ve got an excellent shot of going undefeated.

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Come to Penn SSSTTTAAATTTE!!!!!
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And that's all I have to say about that.

Got a quarter?

August 21st, 2008 at 4:32 PM
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I think people include the 2005 debacle in the "Oklahoma sucks in BCS Bowls" argument, not to mention they lost to LSU in 2004, Boise in 2007, and the aforementioned WVU in 2008.  In all fairness, they are worse than OSU in recent BCS performances.

Not that i agree that any of that matters for this year, but ah well.

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August 21st, 2008 at 2:41 PM
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Michigan = present day Germany.
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Has all of the ingredients necessary to be a superpower, but is not one, due to complacency and stifling traditions.

 

Has historically beaten up on its neighbors, but gets its ass kicked when it ventures outside the neighborhood.  People are not as afraid of it as they used to be, especially the corrupt regime in Red.

 

Has a folksy new leader from a backward part of the country to try to shake it out of its recent malaise.  

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August 21st, 2008 at 2:10 PM
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RR is Hitler?
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RR is Hitler?

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Easy there.
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I said PRESENT day Germany.  (Merkel.)

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August 22nd, 2008 at 2:50 PM
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If you're a Sparty fan
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then yes, he is.

The morons (as well as whoever made the original Cowboys video) think it's funny to compare a fanbase to Nazis.

Ann Arbor is a classy broad.

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August 21st, 2008 at 3:40 PM
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Source?
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Not that I wouldn't believe we've got a couple of idiot fans out there somewhere who would make such a comparison, but I'd like to see it (if only to know which hotbeds of lunacy to avoid).

August 21st, 2008 at 6:51 PM
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I'm sure it isn't all Spartan fans. My statement was a bit unfair.

What I don't like is the trend of youtube videos started by (I think) someone who hates the Cowboys that involes taking a clip from some German movie about Hitler (Downfall?) and make it seem as if he and his henchmen are Cowboys fans. It wasn't funny that time, and it wasn't funny when an MSU fan did that with Michigan. To the Sparty fan's credit, in the description he does ask people to read about the real Hitler and includes a link to something about the vermin. I generally have a good handle on jokes that are so inappropriate to the point of absurdity, which itself adds the humorous effect, but I wouldn't compare any fanbase to Nazis. I mean, we're talking about sports fans and then we're talking about genocidal murderers so cruel and methodical that they essentially are the embodiment of evil.  Kind of an offensive comparison.  (Not that I blame you or all of Spartan nation.)

Ann Arbor is a classy broad.

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August 22nd, 2008 at 3:44 PM
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UNC--sort of. They have a great coach and I think that their talent is improving, but this could apply more to next year. Outside the receiving corps, the offense is somewhat on the young side. But they were competitive last year. They lost a bunch of their games within a TD, but that's the ACC we're talking about. One of those losses was to ECU, a good non-BCS team but not amazing.

Ann Arbor is a classy broad.

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August 21st, 2008 at 1:57 PM
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I think he said "Your name's
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I think he said "Your name's Pootin. Like a fart. heh heh heh Oh I crack myself up."

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August 21st, 2008 at 1:10 PM
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When Bush spoke to the
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When Bush spoke to the Russian president, I don't think he said "Leave Georgia alone."  I think he said, "Thanks for taking some of the heat off of me."

August 21st, 2008 at 12:46 PM
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If we are Georgia does that
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If we are Georgia does that mean that Bush is going to talk to Tressel about leaving us alone?

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August 21st, 2008 at 12:35 PM
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and then
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not really do anything while he continues his vacation.

 

http://www.stupandmars.com/images/2008/08/09/bush.jpg

http://cache.boston.com/resize/bonzai-fba/Reuters_Photo/2008/08/09/12182...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/00788/640-george...

 

http://ttifi.blogspot.com

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wooooooooooooooo politics!!
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Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos

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I crave more posts.
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